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Randy Snow of HITS FM wins the boobie prize

April 11, 2012 - Randy Snow, morning deejay with HITS FM, is taking a hit himself for comments made on Tuesday’s morning show.

I didn’t hear it because, really, I’m not into top 40. But Tara Bradbury, a reporter with The Telegram, did, and she paraphrased it for me. Snow’s comment came after playing the song “All That She Wants”, by Ace of Bass. Here is the gist of what he said:

“Speaking of babies, that reminds me of what I was talking about earlier today. You remember Mayim Bialik, she played Blossom, and is now acting on Big Bang Theory and in Old Navy commercials? In her book, ‘Beyond the Sling: A Real-Life Guide to Raising Confident, Loving Children the Attachment Parenting Way’, she talks about how she breastfeeds her three-and-a-half-year-old son, Fred. What? Three-and-a-half? I had just gotten over the Alicia Silverstone bird-feeding thing with her son and now this!”

This incensed Bradbury, who is a nursing mother. I asked if she’d be willing to comment on the record, she agreed and, in no time, had emailed me the following note. I am posting it all, verbatim. Here’s her response:

“I was surprised to hear Randy Snow express his disgust at extended breastfeeding on air. I think my initial shock had to do with the fact that a radio DJ, who, because of the nature of the job, is generally not able to make more than a quick, passing comment on something, would venture to take up such a topic on air. Beyond the surprise, I'm disappointed that Randy, being in a position of celebrity in this province, would help perpetuate a stigma that our Department of Health, hospitals, public health nurses and other health groups have been busting their butts for years trying to eradicate. 90% of Canadian moms choose to start breastfeeding their newborns; in this province, only 63% do. By the time these babies are six months old, only 10 per cent of them are still breastfed.

“Breastfeeding a toddler, believe it or not, is not uncommon, though it might be less common here. The World Health Organization, Health Canada and Canadian Pediatric Society all suggest breastfeeding should continue for two years and longer (with the introduction of solid food, of course, after age six months) if mother and baby wish. Breastfeeding to ages 3 and 4 is common in many, many parts of the world. There are some immune factors in breastmilk that increase after age 2, because, naturally, older children are exposed to more infections than babies. Many studies have shown that children in daycare who still breastfeed at home get sick far less often than their peers.

“There are also psychological benefits. According to Dr. Jack Newman, a Canadian doctor who runs the International Breastfeeding Centre and a world expert on breastfeeding, the child who breastfeeds until he weans himself (usually between ages 2 and 4) is usually more independent and more secure in his independence. ‘He has received comfort and security from the breast until he is ready to make the step himself to stop, and when a child makes that step himself, he knows he has achieved something, he knows he has moved ahead,’ Newman has written.

“I have a two year old who is still nursing, and I have many friends in St. John's in the same position, some with children older than mine. Likewise, I have many friends who have chosen to feed their children formula. Why should either of us be subjected to other people's disgust at this personal choice, especially in a 30-second sound bite on radio, with no context? Randy's disgust showed a lack of information on the topic, and was, in my opinion, quite derogatory.”

Dara Squires is a writer and columnist in Corner Brook. She vented her displeasure on the HITS FM Facebook page, including this comment:

“He probably just said it to be inflammatory and get a response. But this is a province where we struggle against cultural bias against breastfeeding on a daily basis and someone in a responsible public position should not be undermining the efforts of government, health authorities, and mothers by stating such ignorance publicly.”

I think Squires is correct, that Snow was trying to be provocative. Deejays in commercial radio will sometimes say these things for the notoriety of it, and they don’t care who they offend so long as people are talking about them. Perhaps it’s good for ratings. That said, I think he was also speaking off the cuff, and his feelings of revulsion are real.

I sent a message to HITS FM, through its Facebook page, asking for a comment from Randy Snow. I will post a reply, if I receive one.

If I could ask him one question, it would be this: what does he find so shocking about a breastfeeding toddler?

 

UPDATE: For another perspective on this, check Dara Squires’s ‘Readily A Parent’ blog entry today. It’s powerful stuff:

http://www.readilyaparent.com/2012/04/dear-randy-snow-dont-be-boob.html

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  • womble
    April 25, 2012 - 02:48

    Bottom line is its no-one's business how I, or Mayim Bialik, or anyone else feeds their kids. Yes the woman wrote a book, but she has never said that anyone else should do it, only that it works for her. Maybe if everyone did what worked best for them and their family and stopped judging what others are doing we'd get along better.

  • Mama B
    April 14, 2012 - 07:22

    To mom of two - not all women are able to pump milk successfully so your statements regarding giving them pumped milk is fine except for the moms who can't pump. Not sure if you were aware. Geoff - kudos for your article!

  • jenny
    April 13, 2012 - 18:25

    I think Randys comment would go along with many peoples viewpoints. As a mother I know all about breastfeeding, I did it for ten months. Its sad that the percentages of mothers who breastfeed are low but it seems to me like a lot more people are comfortable breast feeding these days. I just don't understand why anyone would keep breast feeding a child who can talk! To me thats just a bit much. I guess everyone is open to their own opinion. But in my mind when my child can ask for my breast, its gone way too far.

    • Dara
      April 14, 2012 - 12:38

      My daughter was talking in full sentences at 10 months. My oldest son didn't talk till he was three. Your arguments make no sense. Find me a medical authority that says that the moment a child can say a certain word they are developmentally ready to wean and I'll concede your point. Good luck finding that.

    • Breastfeeding Mother
      April 14, 2012 - 13:06

      Jenny, the reason you believe that "when my child can ask for my breast, its gone way too far" is because of our western culture. We are not used to seeing toddlers nursing. But as stated in previous comments, the natural weaning age of a child is between 2 and 7. Hard for us to understand, but true. It is normal to see this in many parts of the world.

  • CONCERNED
    April 12, 2012 - 20:31

    For (GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT) .... The correlation between IQ and breastfeeding relates to children who are nursed beyond the age of two, and even four, compared to those nursed less than a year. I don't think socio-economics determines the length of time we nurse, but I'm sure there's a study in there somewhere on sexuality and how we perceive ourselves as women. The children nursed beyond four years also demonstrated greater independence than those nursed for shorter periods. A happy, secure child is a mentally well-developed child...not to mention the physical benefits - that's reason enough for me to take the WHO's advice. I'm a Carnation baby, but I certainly consider myself an intelligent professional. However, I wish my mother's generation had more faith and confidence in their bodies so that I too could have received such a wonderful gift. Just sayin'

  • Mom Sears
    April 12, 2012 - 17:14

    With the price of milk at the grocery store, I wish I could still give my boys breast milk.

  • DAD OF THREE
    April 12, 2012 - 10:35

    @MOM OF TWO; saying it twice doesn't make what you say any more right :-) But seriously, listen to yourself: inappropriate? How? Why?; Pump it? Why?; age appropriate eating and drinking? How, and by whom, is that determined? Whose interests do you serve with such advice? And, who, ultimately, is the authority to decide these things -- if not the mother and child involved? To paraphrase the government-issued poster -- no doubt you've seen it, because considerable time and money and expertise went into this government-sanctioned material -- 'You'll see a lot of things you don't like; breastfeeding shouldn't be one of them." After all, breastfeeding is not about you; it's about what is best for the child as decided by the child and the mother. In spite of how you might feel about any aspect of the practice. And that's just the way it is. Love. If you want to speak out about things you regard as wrong, then focus on the things that really are wrong with this world. There's enough to occupy you for ten lifetimes without having to get in a snit about any aspect of breastfeeding.

  • former breastfeeding mom
    April 11, 2012 - 21:37

    Sandra, my son self weaned at 15 months. At the time, he did not watch TV and his snacks consisted of fruit and yogurt. He simply stopped. He dropped his night feeding last, which is typical. I asked my Dr. And she (a breastfeeding advocate and a highly respected family practitioner with some specialized training in pediatrics and lactation) said that "the vast majority of children who self wean do so by the age of 2. So I'm not sure where you are getting your info but im going to believe my Dr.

  • Get your facts straight
    April 11, 2012 - 20:41

    I'd like to preface my comments with the fact that I nursed almost exclusively until my son was 5 months old and continued to nurse until he was 15 months old. To the person who should that longer breastfeeding is linked to higher IQ - you need to learn the difference between correlation and causation. Studies on the benefits of breastfeeding rarely go across socio-economic barriers and women who are poorly educated and/or in lower socio-economic classes are less likely to breastfeed. People who are poorly educated and/or in lower socio-economic classes are less likely to have children who score well on IQ tests. Until they come out with a study that says that all adopted people are dumber because they don't get breasatfed, I am going to take all of those studies with a grain of salt. Also, many of the benefits are so miniscule as to be irrelevant. The benefits to the mother in terms of physical rehabilitation from childbirth and the immunity issue are far more scientifically grounded. While the WHO guidelines are meant to be universal, they are primarily targeted towards developing countries. Hence the focus on things like intestinal issues, parasites and pneumonia. Although breastfeeding is best, there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with formula. My son had a great deal of difficulty nursing at first and due to dehydration and weight loss, my doctor, a pedeatrician, and a couple of lactation consultants all recommended that I supplement with formula, which I did until my supply became more stable. There might be some immune factors for extended breastfeeding but again, they are so slight as to be inconsequential. As a matter of fact, extended breastfeeding has been noted by the WHO to be linked with iron deficiency in preschool children because they don't get as much nutrition from other sources. Now, in a developing country where breastfeeding gives more bang for the buck in terms of nutrition for mother and child - this is a minor issue. But when we have access to everything we have in the western world, it's probably more for the mother than the kid. In other words, the many expressed an opinion shared by many about a controversial topic. He in no way said anything that should discourage anyone from breastfeeding their newborn and people should move on and get a grip.

    • Get YOUR facts straight
      April 12, 2012 - 08:18

      Obviously, in cases like your son's, if the baby is dehydrated or whatever, then my God, feed him formula or whatever you've got to do. But saying there is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with formula is completely false. How many times have you heard of recalls announced for formula for containing things like broken glass, pieces of metal and salmonella? The fungal toxin aflatoxin, which is known to cause cancer and is not present in breastmilk, has also been found in some formulas. Formulas also may contain metals like aluminum, manganese and cadmium, not to mention the BPA it absorbs from the cans (a bigger problem with the liquid than the powder). Soy formula is even worse because of the high levels of plant-derived estrogens in soy products- I've heard it said that feeding a baby soy formula exclusively is akin to feeding them birth control pills. Want me to go on? There are also scientifically grounded studies that show breastfed children are less likely to get cancer, diabetes, asthma or be obese when they're older than formula fed kids, and mothers who breastfeed have lower incidences of breast and ovarian cancer. BTW, not all adopted people aren't breastfed. Plenty of adoptive mothers breastfeed, Google it and you'll see how it's possible.

  • Mom Of Two
    April 11, 2012 - 17:33

    Alicia Penney, love how quick you are to jump on Willie's grammar. Your comments of him were much more negative and judgemental than anything Randy said. Randy expressed his opinion. As a lot of people are doing on here. I am a mother of two and I would find it a little inappropriate for a child over the age of 3 to be breastfed. If the milk is so beneficial then pump it for the kid. Reinforce eating and drinking skills that are more age appropriate. That's my opinion. Comment as you wish.

    • Student
      April 13, 2012 - 12:46

      I agree, it seems to be a lot of ugly rearing of heads here over a minor comment which was, as far as I can tell, not intended to be harmful. It's a shame that people automatically assume that it is okay to call someone else down based on what they consider an "embarrassing" post...

  • Mom Of Two
    April 11, 2012 - 17:29

    Alicia Penney, love how quick you are to jump on Willie's grammar. Your comments of him were much more negative and judgemental than anything Randy said. Randy expressed his opinion. As a lot of people are doing on here. I am a mother of two and I would find it a little inappropriate for a child over the age of 3 to be breastfed. If the milk is so beneficial then pump it for the kid. Reinforce eating and drinking skills that are more age appropriate. That's my opinion. Comment as you wish.

  • Stan Rivera
    April 11, 2012 - 16:20

    So much going on in the world and you're all on here yammering about hurt feelings inflicted by a "celebrity" (that may be the funniest thing about this whole thing- calling a morning zoo guy a celebrity)... He said something stupid. He talks for 40 hours a week. I'm sure he rues having said it. Move on and for god's sake don't any of you buy a Sirius/XM Radio.

  • Tara Bradbury
    April 11, 2012 - 15:41

    This has nothing to do with Randy being a man. Not sure where you would get the impression that I think "only men do bad things," (perhaps from my involvement with The Telegram's Warm Hearts campaign against domestic violence. You wouldn't be the first to write and accuse me of being a man-hater because of my intolerance of abuse against women). Are all women completely innocent and pure? Definitely not. Are all children? Yes, absolutely. I'm not a breastfeeding extremist and I don't pass judgment on other mothers when it comes to breastfeeding or not breastfeeding, because it's not my business. But if I'm asked for a comment on a topic that personally offended me, I'm entitled to give my opinion. You'll notice in Geoff's blog that he afforded that same opportunity to Randy.

  • newsreader
    April 11, 2012 - 15:10

    @JAY; Now that's getting personal. Come on, if this is your way of weighing in on the issue and the debate, I think your remarks are harming the cause. Snow doesn't have to shut up, he spoke his mind freely. But having the right to speak openly entails being held accountable for your comments; and that's what happens here. If a popular radio deejay wants to stir the waters by commenting on breastfeeding or any other medical or parenting issue, that's his right; but nobody should be surprised that he's being taken to task. It was inevitable, and it is right.

  • newsreader
    April 11, 2012 - 14:45

    @SERIOUSLY; Decent human being or not, Randy Snow said an incredibly stupid thing and he's being called on it. That's how it goes in a society that allows free speech. Randy exercised his right to speak freely, but that doesn't mean we all have to be polite and ignore it. And what are these "personal attacks" you speak of? I've been through all the comments, and I haven't seen a single remark against Snow himself. Remarks seem pretty confined to what he said -- which was stupid, and which came from a man mouthing off on a topic where he was over his head.

  • Jay
    April 11, 2012 - 14:24

    So of course Tara is right and Randy is wrong? It's fine for Tara to have her say in the media and Randy has to shut up? The impression I've always gotten of Tara is that she thinks that only men do bad things. Women and children are completely innocent and pure.

    • Dara
      April 11, 2012 - 15:40

      This is not about Tara being right and Randy wrong. Tara reported what she heard - which is indeed accurate if you review the audio file on the HitsFM site. And she responded to it. Randy said what he did. I dont know why. But he did. As did others at the station. They made it into a huge joke. Which means they made something that some people are passionate about into a huge joke. So those passionate people - which include Tara, myself, and many other women (and men!) - have responded. Yes, in my personal opinion, Randy was wrong. He said something that was wrong. That doesn't mean I now hate Randy forever. I really don't care about him at all. But when statements go out into the public that are wrong, than it is the right of the public to respond. Tara is the furthest thing from a man-hater. If she were truly a man-hater why would she have trusted a man to write this piece with her quotes. Tara speaks and writes about and works in an advocacy role for things she is passionate about - one of which includes domestic violence. That doesn't make her a man-hater. That makes her a voilence-hater. She's also an intolerance-hater. If a woman had made these remarks, she would've have been equally offended and outraged.

    • Silent Bob
      April 11, 2012 - 17:06

      She's not a man-hater at all. She's lovely, actually. Caring, intelligent lady.

  • Carol
    April 11, 2012 - 13:59

    There is a HUGE difference between a 2 year old and a 4 year old. 4 year olds are not babies or toddlers! I breastfed my son for a year and may have gone a little longer except that he didn't want to anymore. Like I said, weaning was easy. If you live in a developing country where there is no clean water or food, then breastfeeding beyond a year or two may be the best thing. But in Canada, our 2 year olds can get all the nutrition they need from a healthy diet. Most research in favor of breastfeeding beyond 1 or 2 years old was done in developing countries where life is very different than here and access to proper nutrition falls short. I'm not going to post sources of information because a quick google search, visit to the library or chat with a doctor will show you all the research you need, both for and against. I trust my doctor, my midwife, my experience, etc. Breast is best, there's just no arguing this point. Formula is not breastmilk - I'm very against that. The point about breastmilk in stores was made by me to illustrate that breast milk is for BABIES, and if humans were meant to drink it beyond babyhood, women's bodies would keep making it and we'd all be drinking it! I had a bad experience taking care of a 4 year old but I also have years of childcare experience. The healthiest choice is definitely breastmilk but it is not necessary once a child eats a balanced diet.

  • Karen
    April 11, 2012 - 13:20

    All I have to say is that I remember things from my childhood as early as 4 years old and that's one thing I don't think I'd like to recall! And for the record I did breastfed my child, one of the best things you can do for them!

  • Seriously
    April 11, 2012 - 13:12

    I breast fed for 15 months. Everyone knows there are benefits to breast feeding. As a mother, I was in no way insulted or shocked by the simple statement made on air by Randy Snow. There was nothing malicious in his remark and his shock was simply that. I think any person without breastfeeding knowledge or experience and many WITH breastfeeding experience and knowledge feel the same. And weather or not 15 months is long enough or too long (as was my experience, 15 months) or 3 and a half, or 5, or 8. This could go on and be debated for an eternity. Whats right for people can only be determined by that person. No one out there has the right to judge me or anyone else based on how long I nursed my child or if I bottle fed. But we live in a society of judgement. And guess what, all of you standing with righteous indignation right now, who are publicly flogging a man for a mild reaction to a topic he has no experience in are being nothing short of judgmental. Randy Snow is a decent human being. Instead of publicly screaming foul, breath and see his simple remark for what it was. Please, continue to educate the public in the benefits of breast milk and breast feeding. But know this, the stance you have taken is intimidating and embarrassing. Not ALL breastfeeding mothers feel the same and certainly, the only comments that damaged anything here are the ones the breastfeeding extremists are on about. There is no need to publicly do to this man what you've been doing. Show some poise. Be the amazing mothers you want to be and do something good. Acknowledge you may have over reacted! And apologize to Randy Snow for the completely uncalled for personal attacks.

    • Dara
      April 11, 2012 - 15:34

      I keep hearing that there are personal attacks against Randy Snow. I haven't seen any, however. I am, sincerely interested in seeing what these attacks are. Could you please point them out? And saying things like "ewww" and laughing....if someone was pointing at your child and doing that, wouldn't you think they were being bullied? It wasn't just Randy Snow; it was the entire "crew." They did cross a line. We are stating that they crossed a line. That is all.

  • Concerned
    April 11, 2012 - 12:15

    The human body was created to nurse their young well until the age of 7. The body produces new antibodies formulated especially for our children for seven years. Recent studies are now showing a direct link between IQ and the length of time a child is nursed. Those nursed beyond the age of 4 showed a significantly higher IQ and greater independence. Did nature get it wrong? When a baby starts to walk and talk, breastfeeding becomes sexual? What the hell!! This is a crazy conversation!!

  • Carol
    April 11, 2012 - 11:21

    Well, when you have a 4 year old flipping out because you won't let him play with your breasts, there is a problem. We do not live in other parts of the world, we live in Canada, where it is not normal for 4 year olds to be lifting a woman's shirt up and demanding to play with her breasts! I never fed my son milk from any other mammal - he is a vegan. I agree that people should not drink the milk of other animals. Also, the mother of the 4 year old has a diet of processed food, meat, junk food and she fries everything and she drink sand smokes. I have never seen her son eat a fruit or vegetable. Breast milk is made of what the mother eats so how is it healthy to nurse a 4 year old when your own diet is so poor. There are many other reasons why women in other countries nurse so long - cultural, social, economic. I had a long talk with my family doctor, who assured me that children will have better nutrition if they eat healthy foods, and that the benefit of breastfeeding beyond a year or so is just not proven. I have done my research, and it tells me that the nutritional value of breastmilk decreases substantially over time and that the best benefit is in the first few weeks. If breast milk beyond a year contains so much nutrition, why don't we just put that in a bottle and sell it in the stores?

    • Vic
      April 11, 2012 - 11:44

      Carol, "putting breastmilk in a bottle and selling it in stores" is exactly what formula companies have been trying to do for years! That's why they have slogans like "the closest thing to breastmilk!" I feel very sorry for your experience babysitting that child, because it was obviously very stressful for you. And if that particular mother eats junk or smokes or lets her child behave badly, it's a personal issue you have with one mother. You can't tar everyone with the same brush. Not every breastfed toddler acts that way. Mine sure doesn't, and I wouldn't stand for it. Can you cite your sources for the value of breastmilk decreasing substantially over time? Your opinion is clearly an emotional one. That's absolutely valid, but your arguments cannot be taken as facts. They aren't.

    • Breastfeeding mother
      April 11, 2012 - 12:31

      Carol, whether you live in Japan, South Africa, or Canada, we are all human. And we all want the best nutrition for our babies. Not all nursing 4 year olds lift up their mothers' shirts and play with their breasts. This was an isolated incident and you are assuming that all nursing toddlers are the same. They are not. I would also like to see the research you are referring to. All of the research I have seen recommends breastfeeding for a minimum of two years and then beyond as the healthiest choice.

  • poppyweed
    April 11, 2012 - 11:15

    Controversies and comments such as these are what make so many women in this province uncomfortable with breastfeeding to begin with. If you were a young, impressionable woman who was considering breastfeeding and heard derogatory remarks about it, you would be less likely to want to breastfeed. In a culture where there already exist negative perceptions of breastfeeding, we need to embrace a woman's choice to raise her child in the way she chooses, not dissect it and offer our own negative perceptions. The fact is: Breastfeeding is healthier for mother and baby. It's time everyone realized it.

  • Willie Hunt Pouch Cove NL
    April 11, 2012 - 11:03

    I was reared up down this way on Carnation Milk and water and their's nothing wrong with me. The way my mother was pumping out youngsters if she had to breestfead she would of been doing nothing else. These days the youngsters are latched on they're mothers and texting on they're phones the same time. Whats the world coming two. If you don't want your kids to get all the diseases the mother might be carrying you are better off not breestfeading but usin the bottle instead. Willie Hunt Pouch Cove NL

    • Alicia Penney
      April 11, 2012 - 11:29

      To Willie Hunt of Pouch Cove, Perhaps the reason you cannot spell and your grammar is so horrible is actually because you were "reared up...on Carnation milk and water" instead of breastfed. Just a thought. Do some research before you embarrass yourself next time.

  • Amber
    April 11, 2012 - 10:57

    Actual Carol, you're quite mistaken. The natural weaning age for humans is between 2 and 7 years. The world wide average weaning age is just over 4. It's just western cultures that believe children should be weaned so early. The Canadian Pediatric Society and the World Health Organization state that children should be breastfed until at least age two, continuing on as long as mother and child wish. Breast milk doesn't lose its nutritional value after the child turns one or two. Quite the opposite, actually. It adjusts to meet the needs of the growing child. Only in North America would we scoff at a woman nursing a 3 year old, while simultaneously giving our own children the breastmilk of a hooved animal. Also, your statements about children who are nursed past infancy are unfounded. Studies have actually shown that children nursed into toddlerhood are actually more independent and better adjusted than are children who are weaned early. I implore you to do a little research before spouting off such nonsense. Starting, perhaps, with the research of Kathy Dettwyler www.kathydettwyler.org . She's an anthropologist at Texas A&M University who studies and writes about weaning. Personally, I pay much more credence to peoples opinions when they've given things thought and consideration, and don't just base their opinions on one run in with one child.

  • David W
    April 11, 2012 - 10:42

    I have no problem with breastfeeding. My wife breastfed both our children. My opinion based both on nutrition benefiits research and my ''comfort'' level is that while there may be no perfect age tp stop breastfeeding, 18 months old is a good place to start. Randy Snow was not bashing breastfeeding. He was simply stating his opinion that he felt that breastfeeding at 3 and a half years old would make him queasy. Many would agree. I DO have a problem with the breastfeeding proponents who like many French Immersion parents look and speak down to you if don't agree or make the choice they have.

  • Artfulmom
    April 11, 2012 - 10:37

    Is a passing comment really causing this much fuss? I would understand if Randy Snow had said something degrading or completely disrespectful, but the fact is, he didn't. I believe we are all entitled to our own opinions and parenting certainly comes with an abundance of opinions. Moms have very definite opinions on what is right for their own children, and if you know what is right for your child, why is what someone else believes is right for their child upsetting? As a mother who breast fed for 9 months, I wanted to do everything possible to give my child everything I could to improve his health, immunity and nutrition at the early stages of life. At 9 months he literally pushed me away. Because I did not breast feed him a full year, or as some other parents are suggesting, 3 or 4 years, does this make me a bad mother? Besides these issues, I happen to know Randy and frankly, he is a wonderful, caring person. I can only imagine how this backlash is hurting him given the fact that he now has to read the comments of others, that in some cases are completely distorting what it was that he actually said. In other cases, even making personal attacks on him . If you're still breast feeding your child at 5 good on ya if that's what you believe is right for your child, but believe in it enough to understand and let go of the fact that other people are going to have their own opinions and what you decide for your child is not necessarily right for mine or anyone elses. Also, let's keep away from the personal insults. Nobody's children enjoy being insulted, and after all we are all someone's child.

    • Vic
      April 11, 2012 - 11:21

      ArtfulMom: What you said here: "Why is what someone else believes is right for their child upsetting?" is exactly what you should ask Randy Snow the next time you see him. I didn't read anything in Geoff's blog or in these comments eluding to someone being a bad mother because they didn't breastfeed for 3 or 4 years. To each their own. What if someone said to you, publicly: "What?! You only breastfed for 9 months! First the Alicia Silverstone thing and now this?!" would you be hurt or offended? Would you feel like they were judging you to be a bad mother? Because that's what these women are saying about Randy Snow's comments. Why would he pass any comment at all over a mother's choice, whether it's to breastfeed or not?

  • Carol
    April 11, 2012 - 09:52

    There is no nutritional benefit to breastfeeding a 3-4 year old. Breastfeeding babies is the best thing for the baby, but once that baby is talking in sentences, it's time to give him/her a cup. I breastfed my son til he was 12 months. Weaning was easy. My neighbour still breastfeeds her 4 year old son. I was babysitting this boy one day and he threw a fit because I would not let him see and feel my breasts. I was VERY uncomfortable and when I tried to talk with his mother, I was told to F-off and mind my own business. The mother would not believe me because she said she talked with her son who denied it all, and her 4 year old would never lie! Breastfeeding too long is not a benefit to the child. Kids need to learn to soothe and comfort themselves. Kids who are breastfed too long grow up to be spoiled brats whose parents think the kid can do no wrong. Women's bodies are not built to do this. Milk is not produced after a certain period of time. The benefit to the immune system happens early in breastfeeding, from the colostrum. Do you see any other members of the animal kingdom doing this? I think not! Once a baby has teeth and can digest food, breastfeeding should be stopped. That's the natural way. What's unnatural is a 4 year old kid who is still breastfeeding. It seems that it's the mother who can't let go of her baby, not the other way around.

    • Katie
      April 11, 2012 - 10:21

      Carol, I'm sorry your neighbour was so rude and that her son made you uncomfortable, but this does not mean you can say things that are not true. Extended breastfeeding has many, many benefits. Even if it is not something you personally feel comfortable doing, please respect other people's choices to do so, and refrain from spreading false information. The benefit to the immune system continues as long as a child is breastfeeding, not just from colostrum. I respect your opinion, but please don't let it skew the facts. http://kellymom.com/ages/older-infant/ebf-benefits/

    • Vic
      April 11, 2012 - 10:26

      Carol, we also don't see other members of the animal kingdom feeding their babies milk from other species, but humans do this every single day. Why is there no nutritional benefit to breastfeeding a toddler? What, my milk magically turns to water once my baby can speak in sentences? If the benefit to the immune system happens early in breastfeeding, from the colostrum, why does the World Health Organization recommend breastfeeding for two years and longer, is it because they just haven't learned yet what you already know? Please back up your claims with resources, otherwise they're just your opinion and shouldn't be stated as facts. There are many, many benefits to breastfeeding a toddler, and they aren't all nutritional. Please check the Newman Breastfeeding Clinic and Institute website for information. Do your research and show me some legitimate facts saying weaning a child once they have teeth is "the natural way." You'll find the "natural" weaning age of a child is between 2 and 7 years, believe it or not! What I don't understand is why people get so upset about someone else breastfeeding? You don't want to breastfeed your child? Don't do it!

    • Sandra
      April 11, 2012 - 11:58

      Carol, clearly you either failed to read the information provided, or are in the habit of ignoring scientific facts that you don't like. "There are some immune factors in breastmilk that increase after age 2, because, naturally, older children are exposed to more infections than babies. Many studies have shown that children in daycare who still breastfeed at home get sick far less often than their peers" Breast milk goes through many changes other than that between colostrum and "milk", in fact it changes each and every time the child latches on to meet the immediate needs of the child- whatever those are, at whatever age they are. If you compare milk produced for a 6 month old and that for a 16 month old you will find them to be very different, because their nutritional needs are different. So when you say there is no benefit, you are dead wrong. The fact that you encountered one awkward moment with one child you deem spoiled does not mean that ALL breastfed children are spoiled. A child asking a caregiver to breastfeed them is only awkward and strange to you because our culture has made it so, in other cultures where breastfeeding is the norm, it is not strange at all to feed another person's child. Children don't know what is considered acceptable socially, and are naturally curious creatures, it was the adults involved that made the situation awkward. Breastfeeding is exactly what "women's bodies are built to do", and most women's supply of milk will maintain so long as the demand is constant and woman is healthy. Toddlers do tend to wean easily when they are distracted with toys and television, and their stomachs are filled with prepackaged "toddler" snacks, that fact doesn't mean it is natural or best for them to do so. And as for the "Animal kingdom" comment... Animals grow at different rates than humans, and when they wean their young their brains, bodies, and immune systems are fully formed. Humans immune systems are not fully formed until 6 years of age, and it has been found through anthropological research and comparison of humans and primates that share 98% of our genetic code, that the natural age for our young to wean would be anywhere between 2.5 years and 7.0 years.

  • Dizzy
    April 11, 2012 - 09:14

    Go back and look at what he said? He never bashed the poor girl..he barely said anything..I love how you people like to blow things out of proportion." What? Three-and-a-half? I had just gotten over the Alicia Silverstone bird-feeding thing with her son and now this!” That's all he said "Now this" ..He didn't insult her or anything of the sort. You people need to get a hobby instead of dissecting every word and grasping at straws to make it into something insulting or hurtful. He barely said anything..I really don't get why it is being blown out of proportion? Go back and read it and tell me what is so offensive...

    • Jess
      April 11, 2012 - 09:51

      To Dizzy, you would understand if you had heard his tone. It wasn't "What? Three and a half?" it was like, "Gahh, What?!! Three and a half?!!" said in an "Oh my God" tone. There was definite repulsion and shock in his voice, and he brought it up twice, during two different shows, expressing disbelief. Why would a rock radio DJ go there? Makes no sense. It was ignorant- he brought up a sensitive topic which he obviously knows nothing about, hoping his audience would be shocked by a breastfeeding toddler. Note to Randy- this is not something outrageous! What's the big deal?