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Eviction notices posted on illegal cabins in area of proposed new nickel plant

People who illegally built cabins in the forest near the site of the former phosphorous plant in Long Harbour in the past decade are being expelled by the provincial government.

Officials with the provincial lands division began issuing removal notices this week for the 13 cabins that were built without a proper lease or grant from the Crown, just days before Vale Inco Newfoundland and Labrador is slated to start building a US$2.2-billion commercial nickel-processing plant on the site.

Gerard Brothers (right) of Long Harbour reads a removal notice handed to him Wednesday by officers from the lands division of the Department of Environment and Conservation. Brothers owns one of the 13 cabins in the area that were built without a lease or

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People who illegally built cabins in the forest near the site of the former phosphorous plant in Long Harbour in the past decade are being expelled by the provincial government.

Officials with the provincial lands division began issuing removal notices this week for the 13 cabins that were built without a proper lease or grant from the Crown, just days before Vale Inco Newfoundland and Labrador is slated to start building a US$2.2-billion commercial nickel-processing plant on the site.

Cabin owners had been lobbying for some form of compensation from Vale Inco, or a last-minute compromise with the provincial government, but any hopes of that were dashed Wednesday when formal notices were issued.

People like Clyde and Mary Murphy and Gerard and Patsy Brothers now have 60 days to completely remove their cabins and restore the site to its original condition, or the government will do it and charge them the cost of removal. They also face fines of up to $1,000 or a maximum of three months in jail, and a penalty of $25 for every day the structures remain on the site after the 60-day grace period expires.

The two couples were at their cabins on Wednesday, enjoying a meal of moose stew, when the notices were delivered. They weren't surprised, but couldn't hide their disappointment.

"It took us 10 years to put it here, and now they want us to take it out of here in 60 days," Gerard said.

Both Clyde and Mary are cancer survivors, and spend days on end at their "sanctuary in the woods."

Clyde is an electrician and built the A-frame cabin and oversized deck on the shores of Sam Howe's Pond with his own hands, and now has to take it apart.

"It was a lot of hard work to put it there, and it will be a lot of hard work to take it out of it," he said.

The cabin owners acknowledge their cabins are unlawful, but believed the land was still owned by Albright and Wilson, the former operator of the phosphorous plant, when they built the structures.

There were plenty of downcast faces at Murphy's cabin, but no hard feelings towards the officers who delivered the notices.

"Geez, I should have asked them in for some stew," Clyde quipped.

Environment and Conservation Minister Charlene Johnson was unsympathetic when contacted this week. She said the structures were built illegally on Crown land, and what's more, she said many of the cabins are built too close to a body of water, which is a breach of the 15-metre shoreline reservation.

"Crown land is a natural resource like our trees, our water, our oil. It's no different and there are laws to protect it," she said.

She said the department was responding to a "complaint" about the cabins, and pointed out that if the cabin owners had legal approval to build them, they would be in a better position to bargain for compensation from Vale Inco.

The company is expected to acquire a large tract of Crown land in the coming days. A company spokesman, Bob Carter, said the initial acquisition will not include any land on which there are cabins. But the company hopes to acquire an additional swath of land surrounding Rattling Brook Big Pond, which will serve as an industrial water supply for the nickel plant. Cabins are located in this area, he said.

"We understand that the Crown has initiated a process to determine whether these cabins have been constructed with the appropriate authorization," Carter stated in a statement e-mailed to The Telegram.

Company officials have agreed to meet with the cabin owners, but compensation appears unlikely.

In a recent e-mail exchange between a cabin owner and a senior manager with Vale Inco, the manager stated: "You should understand that we cannot be in a position of compensating people for the removal of such buildings. What I can say is we do understand the issue and can show some flexibility with permitting some access for you in the removal of the cabin or contents for a short time while this is taking place."

The cabin owners say they expected more from such a large company.

"They want to steamroll over everybody that's here and flex their muscles," said Clyde Murphy.

Murphy and Brothers also complained about a lack of support from the Long Harbour town council, saying, "this would not be an issue if someone on council had a cabin in here."

But Mayor Gary Keating said it is beyond the town's control. He said the issue has been discussed with company and provincial officials.

"There's nothing we can do," he said.

Faced with such overwhelming odds, the cabin owners say they have no choice but to start removing their cabins. But they'll miss the solitude, socializing and peacefulness, and say there is nowhere else in the immediate area where they can build a cabin.

"I guess we have to evict," said Clyde Murphy. "But don't think we're bad people. We're good people."

troberts@thetelegram.com

Organizations: Albright and Wilson, Long Harbour town council

Geographic location: Long Harbour

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  • Peter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    Its too bad one of Dannys friends dosent have some land or a cabin in that area then nothing would happen, I bet this is all STEVES fault big bad Ottawa right Danny? We are all hated by everyone but Danny loves us.

  • J
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    The did not have the legal right to build on the property. I really feel for them but that's what happens when you fail to follow the rules. No one is above the law and no one deserves compensation for breaking the law. I don't think they should be fined, after all they've been there for years why fine them now that would be nonsense.

  • Jolene
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    That's where you are wrong. This is a beautiful area, and building that cabin and subsequently staying at it? Helped them a lot through a rough time. Your blunt and unthoughtful comment just diminished their struggle. Also, due to dirty industry, cancer is an above normal way of life in Long Hr. and the surrounding areas and unfortunately, due to councils combination of greed and ignorance, it will remain so for many years to come. Our mayor has worked for Pennecon (directly linked to INCO) for the last 5 years, a blatant conflict of interest, and sold us and our way of life out because he fails to see the beauty of our community. Long Hr. has been stripped piece by piece, and I for one will be sad to see it become a barren wasteland.

  • WAYNE
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    YOU SHOULD HAVE PAID FOR THE SPOT LIKE THE REST OF WORLD, LOOKS GOOD ON YOU GUY. THERES FREEDOM ON THE ROCK BUT NOT FOR FREEBEE,,

  • Craig
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    I got a great idea. I was driving by Paddys Pond yesterday and I thought, Wow! What a great place to have a cabin. So I think I'll get my backhoe, a few buddies, and go clear some land and build myself a sanctuary! You know, cause me and the wife need it to relax and get away. No, I'm not going to buy it! And no, I'm not going to get a permit, I am not going to have it inspected, No I am not going to pay taxes on it and No, I am not going to insure it... If it catches fire and burns 200 hectares of land down ...oh well, that's all I can do!! I'll just walk away and say, opps! Wasn;t my place. Right??? Cause thats what normal thinking, law obiding citizens do I think!

    Sound Crazy doesn't it. Reality Check time.

    Regardless of Vale Inco, Long Harbour Project or whatever you wanna call it. You can not just go out and build cabins because............ahh The land is there and you need a place to retreat. What are we living in 1759, I was here first, so its mine .

    There are laws and governing bodies in place to prevent these things from happening. And that is what retains order in the world. For those thinking you are entitles to an achre of crown land cause you live in NL.. What?????

    There are plenty of lots available on this island for sale. Go buy one like the rest of us.

    CR

  • Deb
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    The cabins are there illegally !! nothing more needs to be said!!

  • Richard
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    If a man can't build a shed or park his trailer somewhere where he ain't botherin nobody, we have too much regulation. Next thing they'll ban livin at the dump.

  • paul
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    THE GOVT. SHOULD SET ASIDE MORE CROWN LAND FOR RECREATIONAL CABIN DEVELOPMENT,THERE OBVIOUSLY IS A DEMAND.

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    This is hardly newsworthy. If accurate there is no argument on the cabin owners part - The cabin owners acknowledge their cabins are unlawful / structures were built illegally /Owners indicated - But don't think we're bad people. We're good people. But IMO very stupid people - spending thousands on a summer cabin without first finding out if it's legal to do so - another newfie joke.

  • Steve
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Land is so cheap here it's crazy. Go buy an acre or two for a few grand next time!

  • Alex
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Alex from Labrador: If a bunch of natives from Quebec moved in there and built cabins on Crown land, would the goverment evict them? Seems our laws don't apply to them. Maybe the honorable minister would monitor the situation.

  • Ellen
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Really people you can't own anything without a purchase agreement. I'm sure I would not be able to choose a likely Spot to build my Getaway without a permit/pricetag......

  • Eva
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    There goes our way of life down home. I am so sorry uncle Clyde. You have the most beautiful cabin. I will treasure the time that I spent there.

  • Derek
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    No one said they were bad people, but give me a break, what if we all built cabins wherever we wanted. It would be nice if we could all avoid paying for land and just ignore the rules. These people took a chance and it did not go in their favour and they should just accept it. I still do not understand what the point of stating they were cancer survivors. It had no relavance to the story.

  • Bubbles
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    They have been there until now without any issues. Would they still boot them out if there was no work going to happen there? The government should wait to evict the cottage owners until Vale Inco gets the okay on Sandy Pond. No Sandy Pond - No Project!!!

  • Michelle
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Environment and Conservation Minister Charlene Johnson DON'T STOP NOW. You must remove ALL illegal cabins in NL or face being viewed as a MINION of big business. Don't be a MINDLESS PAWN of the corporations, you are paid by the TAXPAYERS. Don't bite the hand that FEEDS you. Get your act together or risk allowing this SELECTIVE JUSTICE to fester and come back to bite you. Perhaps you should seriously consider flip-flopping on your erroroneous decision to avoid the political BACKLASH that is to come. The law should be applied to EVERYONE EQUALLY, or not at all.

  • rotted
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    I am not defending the cabin owners as so many of you have said everybody should have to pay the crown for land that they are living on whether it be a cabin or a house'. My complaint is that there are a lot of issues more serious than this that our greedy nflers are getting away with. The amount of poaching salmon, moose, trout,lobsters etc. is out of control and the poachers are laughing. Everynow and then the person who takes the risk and poaches one moose without a licence seems to get caught and have to pay the penalty whereas the ones who are doing it big time seem to get away with it. There are some areas where this is constantly going on. This is rumored all over Nl and the government needs to make every effort to put a stop to it.

  • Always a Newfie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Craig You can not be serious! said it all!!!
    If you want to build a nice sanctuary away from everything BUY a piece of land and build it. If you'd done it right in the first place this would not even be an issue!!

  • Michelle
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    You know Rich, I just wish there was some consistency. But there isn't. And it's very obvious what it is. Just to help your misunderstanding.

  • July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    John from Siuthern Shore, NL hit the nail on the head. Where had gov't been PRIOR to ValeInco on the issue of removing these cabins ? How about any cabins, anywhere, any time, where was gov't ? I'll tell you - it wasn't an issue. This complaint undoubtedly came from ValeInco.

    So, Environment and Conservation Minister Charlene Johnson, now that you've set a precedent, you'll have to evict ALL so-called illegal cabins all across the province to appear to show fair and level application of law. Or was this a special case based on ValeInco's complaint ?

  • Nasty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    It looks like this is where progress meets a way of life and the continuation of the demise of the lifestyle that people once held in this province. It is a shame, but this is what everyone wanted was it not? Progress and jobs? It is clear we can not have our cake and eat it too.

  • I Pay My Own Way
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    I've never gotten anything for nothing in my live. I dont hold a grudge about anyone who does, but dont complain when you get caught and have to set things straight. its crown land, not public land. you cant even go and cut fire woood now without a permit, but these guys think is OK to build on crown land and not have to pay anything for it. im sorry, but there lucky that the crown just dont burn everything down, after all, it thier land. this is not the same as squatters rights, completely different situation. my comments have nothng to do with inco moving into the area, its just not right what they did. i own a house, and i had to buy the land i built it on, i couldnt just build it anywhere i wanted, which is basically what these guys did. SORRY GUYS, WELCOME TO THE 21st CENTURY, where systems and processes dictate, for everyone!!!

  • Randall
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    I guess there's no way we can allow a few cabins to stand in the way of a multi national coproration coming in and destroying a natural body of water as a garbage dump for industrial waste. We have to keep back 15 metres but they can use it as an industrial cesspool. That makes sense. As a sidebar, I wonder if there has ever been a study into the incidents of cancer in the area.

  • Rich
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    To Michelle's comment to Charlene Johnston: i don't know about the rest of the island, but this has been taking place for the past few years around the avalon. Particularly in the Fox Marsh (Ocean Pond) area. People were given their notices to remove campers and cabins around the wolf pond area about 3 years ago. Charlene Johnson is only doing her job. You'd be complaining the other way if she didn't. Nothing personal.

  • Robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    Sure hope when the Environment officiers turn to torching these cabins that they clean up the mess they make. Not like what they left behind at Jubilee Lake.

    I wonder if they ever cleaned up that mess?

  • Rob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    It was a lot of hard work to put it there, and it will be a lot of hard work to take it out of it.
    Ahhh! Are these people for real!
    It was a lot of Hard Illegal Work which you were not caught doing! Everyone wants to get a piece of the Big Corporate Pie, mmmm good.
    Stick to your Guns VALE INCO and give them nothing, i mean would you give someone a reward for breaking the law?? 60 days to restore the land or Lock'em up, No Deal!

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    I paid 16K for my cabin land. To bad it wasn't where these 13 are, would just like to see what they would offer me.

  • roy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    its so funny how politicans handle situations,dealing with the quebec innu on slauthering an endangered herd of caribou,brush it under the mat,cowards.removal of illegal cabins in 60 days or possibilty go to jail,it turns my stomach and makes me angry to watch these idiotic politicans operate.

  • Eugene
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Sad situation! Gone are the days when Newfoundlanders can go into the woods and build their shack...because of their investments, misguided as they are, I feel for these cabin holders. As to Ms. Johnson's assertion, 'Crown land is a natural resource like our trees, our water, our oil. It's no different and there are laws to protect it' what protection are we giving to Sandy Pond? About proximity to water, we will give Vale Inco the rights to pollute and completely surround waterways, possibly with no lease costs, so that the company may provide some jobs to the province whose mineral wealth will be powering this corporation's fortunes well into this new millenium. Protection of our environment seems to be the motivation behind Ms. Johnson's assertions, but protection from whom for whose benefit?

  • Erax
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Squatter's Rights ended in Newfoundland in 1957. Where have these people been? And they want compensation? Good Lord.

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    First Vale Inco is allowed to turn by all accounts a pond full of life into an industrial outhouse and the government and Vale Inco is all concerned about a few cabins being too close to the water. Give me a break. Why don't the company and government give these people a break and allow them to keep their cabins where they are. From the tone of the story, I would surmise that the company wants these people out as it seems that the government didn't even know about the cabins. Shame on Vale Inco.

  • Donald
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Perhaps The Minister of Conservation can explain what impact The Tailings Pond will have on the environment or could the average person apply to have one of them for private use.

  • Sam
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    This story so infuriates me to no ends. We have been trying to acquire a piece of crown land for over a decade now, and without fortune of obtaining a piece. There is so much land here on The Rock that every Newfoundlander should have god given rights to own one lot of land for their own purposes, whether it be a cabin, permanent residence, or just a spot in the woods to go and enjoy a peaceful day. Funny how huge companies just get to come in and take anything they want from us. I hope they charged the crap out of Vale Inco for what crown land they are getting out of this deal, never mind the few jobs going to be produced. Those jobs will probably go to people outside of this province anyways. Another makes me sick to me stomach story!

  • Donny
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    No pity here. Take your 'sanctuary in the woods', load it on a flatbed and get on out of here! The nerve of some newfies trying to get something for nothing!

  • headstrong
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Come up to Baie Verte and check out hundreds of illegal cabins just outside town. Free loaders !

  • Peter
    July 01, 2010 - 20:25

    Its too bad one of Dannys friends dosent have some land or a cabin in that area then nothing would happen, I bet this is all STEVES fault big bad Ottawa right Danny? We are all hated by everyone but Danny loves us.

  • J
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    The did not have the legal right to build on the property. I really feel for them but that's what happens when you fail to follow the rules. No one is above the law and no one deserves compensation for breaking the law. I don't think they should be fined, after all they've been there for years why fine them now that would be nonsense.

  • Jolene
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    That's where you are wrong. This is a beautiful area, and building that cabin and subsequently staying at it? Helped them a lot through a rough time. Your blunt and unthoughtful comment just diminished their struggle. Also, due to dirty industry, cancer is an above normal way of life in Long Hr. and the surrounding areas and unfortunately, due to councils combination of greed and ignorance, it will remain so for many years to come. Our mayor has worked for Pennecon (directly linked to INCO) for the last 5 years, a blatant conflict of interest, and sold us and our way of life out because he fails to see the beauty of our community. Long Hr. has been stripped piece by piece, and I for one will be sad to see it become a barren wasteland.

  • WAYNE
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    YOU SHOULD HAVE PAID FOR THE SPOT LIKE THE REST OF WORLD, LOOKS GOOD ON YOU GUY. THERES FREEDOM ON THE ROCK BUT NOT FOR FREEBEE,,

  • Craig
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    I got a great idea. I was driving by Paddys Pond yesterday and I thought, Wow! What a great place to have a cabin. So I think I'll get my backhoe, a few buddies, and go clear some land and build myself a sanctuary! You know, cause me and the wife need it to relax and get away. No, I'm not going to buy it! And no, I'm not going to get a permit, I am not going to have it inspected, No I am not going to pay taxes on it and No, I am not going to insure it... If it catches fire and burns 200 hectares of land down ...oh well, that's all I can do!! I'll just walk away and say, opps! Wasn;t my place. Right??? Cause thats what normal thinking, law obiding citizens do I think!

    Sound Crazy doesn't it. Reality Check time.

    Regardless of Vale Inco, Long Harbour Project or whatever you wanna call it. You can not just go out and build cabins because............ahh The land is there and you need a place to retreat. What are we living in 1759, I was here first, so its mine .

    There are laws and governing bodies in place to prevent these things from happening. And that is what retains order in the world. For those thinking you are entitles to an achre of crown land cause you live in NL.. What?????

    There are plenty of lots available on this island for sale. Go buy one like the rest of us.

    CR

  • Deb
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    The cabins are there illegally !! nothing more needs to be said!!

  • Richard
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    If a man can't build a shed or park his trailer somewhere where he ain't botherin nobody, we have too much regulation. Next thing they'll ban livin at the dump.

  • paul
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    THE GOVT. SHOULD SET ASIDE MORE CROWN LAND FOR RECREATIONAL CABIN DEVELOPMENT,THERE OBVIOUSLY IS A DEMAND.

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 20:14

    This is hardly newsworthy. If accurate there is no argument on the cabin owners part - The cabin owners acknowledge their cabins are unlawful / structures were built illegally /Owners indicated - But don't think we're bad people. We're good people. But IMO very stupid people - spending thousands on a summer cabin without first finding out if it's legal to do so - another newfie joke.

  • Steve
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    Land is so cheap here it's crazy. Go buy an acre or two for a few grand next time!

  • Alex
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    Alex from Labrador: If a bunch of natives from Quebec moved in there and built cabins on Crown land, would the goverment evict them? Seems our laws don't apply to them. Maybe the honorable minister would monitor the situation.

  • Ellen
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    Really people you can't own anything without a purchase agreement. I'm sure I would not be able to choose a likely Spot to build my Getaway without a permit/pricetag......

  • Eva
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    There goes our way of life down home. I am so sorry uncle Clyde. You have the most beautiful cabin. I will treasure the time that I spent there.

  • Derek
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    No one said they were bad people, but give me a break, what if we all built cabins wherever we wanted. It would be nice if we could all avoid paying for land and just ignore the rules. These people took a chance and it did not go in their favour and they should just accept it. I still do not understand what the point of stating they were cancer survivors. It had no relavance to the story.

  • Bubbles
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    They have been there until now without any issues. Would they still boot them out if there was no work going to happen there? The government should wait to evict the cottage owners until Vale Inco gets the okay on Sandy Pond. No Sandy Pond - No Project!!!

  • Michelle
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    Environment and Conservation Minister Charlene Johnson DON'T STOP NOW. You must remove ALL illegal cabins in NL or face being viewed as a MINION of big business. Don't be a MINDLESS PAWN of the corporations, you are paid by the TAXPAYERS. Don't bite the hand that FEEDS you. Get your act together or risk allowing this SELECTIVE JUSTICE to fester and come back to bite you. Perhaps you should seriously consider flip-flopping on your erroroneous decision to avoid the political BACKLASH that is to come. The law should be applied to EVERYONE EQUALLY, or not at all.

  • rotted
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    I am not defending the cabin owners as so many of you have said everybody should have to pay the crown for land that they are living on whether it be a cabin or a house'. My complaint is that there are a lot of issues more serious than this that our greedy nflers are getting away with. The amount of poaching salmon, moose, trout,lobsters etc. is out of control and the poachers are laughing. Everynow and then the person who takes the risk and poaches one moose without a licence seems to get caught and have to pay the penalty whereas the ones who are doing it big time seem to get away with it. There are some areas where this is constantly going on. This is rumored all over Nl and the government needs to make every effort to put a stop to it.

  • Always a Newfie
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Craig You can not be serious! said it all!!!
    If you want to build a nice sanctuary away from everything BUY a piece of land and build it. If you'd done it right in the first place this would not even be an issue!!

  • Michelle
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    You know Rich, I just wish there was some consistency. But there isn't. And it's very obvious what it is. Just to help your misunderstanding.

  • July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    John from Siuthern Shore, NL hit the nail on the head. Where had gov't been PRIOR to ValeInco on the issue of removing these cabins ? How about any cabins, anywhere, any time, where was gov't ? I'll tell you - it wasn't an issue. This complaint undoubtedly came from ValeInco.

    So, Environment and Conservation Minister Charlene Johnson, now that you've set a precedent, you'll have to evict ALL so-called illegal cabins all across the province to appear to show fair and level application of law. Or was this a special case based on ValeInco's complaint ?

  • Nasty
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    It looks like this is where progress meets a way of life and the continuation of the demise of the lifestyle that people once held in this province. It is a shame, but this is what everyone wanted was it not? Progress and jobs? It is clear we can not have our cake and eat it too.

  • I Pay My Own Way
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    I've never gotten anything for nothing in my live. I dont hold a grudge about anyone who does, but dont complain when you get caught and have to set things straight. its crown land, not public land. you cant even go and cut fire woood now without a permit, but these guys think is OK to build on crown land and not have to pay anything for it. im sorry, but there lucky that the crown just dont burn everything down, after all, it thier land. this is not the same as squatters rights, completely different situation. my comments have nothng to do with inco moving into the area, its just not right what they did. i own a house, and i had to buy the land i built it on, i couldnt just build it anywhere i wanted, which is basically what these guys did. SORRY GUYS, WELCOME TO THE 21st CENTURY, where systems and processes dictate, for everyone!!!

  • Randall
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    I guess there's no way we can allow a few cabins to stand in the way of a multi national coproration coming in and destroying a natural body of water as a garbage dump for industrial waste. We have to keep back 15 metres but they can use it as an industrial cesspool. That makes sense. As a sidebar, I wonder if there has ever been a study into the incidents of cancer in the area.

  • Rich
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    To Michelle's comment to Charlene Johnston: i don't know about the rest of the island, but this has been taking place for the past few years around the avalon. Particularly in the Fox Marsh (Ocean Pond) area. People were given their notices to remove campers and cabins around the wolf pond area about 3 years ago. Charlene Johnson is only doing her job. You'd be complaining the other way if she didn't. Nothing personal.

  • Robert
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    Sure hope when the Environment officiers turn to torching these cabins that they clean up the mess they make. Not like what they left behind at Jubilee Lake.

    I wonder if they ever cleaned up that mess?

  • Rob
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    It was a lot of hard work to put it there, and it will be a lot of hard work to take it out of it.
    Ahhh! Are these people for real!
    It was a lot of Hard Illegal Work which you were not caught doing! Everyone wants to get a piece of the Big Corporate Pie, mmmm good.
    Stick to your Guns VALE INCO and give them nothing, i mean would you give someone a reward for breaking the law?? 60 days to restore the land or Lock'em up, No Deal!

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    I paid 16K for my cabin land. To bad it wasn't where these 13 are, would just like to see what they would offer me.

  • roy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    its so funny how politicans handle situations,dealing with the quebec innu on slauthering an endangered herd of caribou,brush it under the mat,cowards.removal of illegal cabins in 60 days or possibilty go to jail,it turns my stomach and makes me angry to watch these idiotic politicans operate.

  • Eugene
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    Sad situation! Gone are the days when Newfoundlanders can go into the woods and build their shack...because of their investments, misguided as they are, I feel for these cabin holders. As to Ms. Johnson's assertion, 'Crown land is a natural resource like our trees, our water, our oil. It's no different and there are laws to protect it' what protection are we giving to Sandy Pond? About proximity to water, we will give Vale Inco the rights to pollute and completely surround waterways, possibly with no lease costs, so that the company may provide some jobs to the province whose mineral wealth will be powering this corporation's fortunes well into this new millenium. Protection of our environment seems to be the motivation behind Ms. Johnson's assertions, but protection from whom for whose benefit?

  • Erax
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Squatter's Rights ended in Newfoundland in 1957. Where have these people been? And they want compensation? Good Lord.

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    First Vale Inco is allowed to turn by all accounts a pond full of life into an industrial outhouse and the government and Vale Inco is all concerned about a few cabins being too close to the water. Give me a break. Why don't the company and government give these people a break and allow them to keep their cabins where they are. From the tone of the story, I would surmise that the company wants these people out as it seems that the government didn't even know about the cabins. Shame on Vale Inco.

  • Donald
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Perhaps The Minister of Conservation can explain what impact The Tailings Pond will have on the environment or could the average person apply to have one of them for private use.

  • Sam
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    This story so infuriates me to no ends. We have been trying to acquire a piece of crown land for over a decade now, and without fortune of obtaining a piece. There is so much land here on The Rock that every Newfoundlander should have god given rights to own one lot of land for their own purposes, whether it be a cabin, permanent residence, or just a spot in the woods to go and enjoy a peaceful day. Funny how huge companies just get to come in and take anything they want from us. I hope they charged the crap out of Vale Inco for what crown land they are getting out of this deal, never mind the few jobs going to be produced. Those jobs will probably go to people outside of this province anyways. Another makes me sick to me stomach story!

  • Donny
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    No pity here. Take your 'sanctuary in the woods', load it on a flatbed and get on out of here! The nerve of some newfies trying to get something for nothing!

  • headstrong
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    Come up to Baie Verte and check out hundreds of illegal cabins just outside town. Free loaders !