N.L. stand 'nearly derailed' trade talks

Rob Antle
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Newfoundland and Labrador's reticence about Ottawa-led trade talks with the European Union "nearly derailed" negotiations from moving forward, a diplomatic official says.

"I have to be perfectly frank with you - the statement by Danny Williams when he refused to sign up to the Council of the Federation statement nearly derailed the entire process," Anya Oram, charge d'affaires for the European Commission delegation in Ottawa, told The Telegram.

Newfoundland and Labrador's reticence about Ottawa-led trade talks with the European Union "nearly derailed" negotiations from moving forward, a diplomatic official says.

"I have to be perfectly frank with you - the statement by Danny Williams when he refused to sign up to the Council of the Federation statement nearly derailed the entire process," Anya Oram, charge d'affaires for the European Commission delegation in Ottawa, told The Telegram.

"Because we spent a lot of time convincing EU member states that 'yes, the provinces were on board' ... and suddenly you had a province that was saying, 'no, we're not on board.' And the member states were saying to us, 'But you told us the provinces were on board, and now it seems that they're not on board.' And so we had to explain that's more a reflection of the domestic political situation in Canada rather than any problem, fundamental problem, that Newfoundland has with developing a relationship with the EU.

"But it nearly did derail it."

On Feb. 20, the premier's office issued a news release expressing concern with the Canada-EU trade process.

"At this point, we are not willing to sign on to support the negotiation of a new and comprehensive economic agreement with the European Union," Premier Danny Williams said in the statement.

Williams stressed in February the decision "should not be confused with a lack of support for an improved trade relationship between Canada and Europe," but was because of "very genuine concerns that our province's issues may not be safeguarded or dealt with in an appropriate way by the federal government."

Earlier that day, all other provinces and territories issued a declaration through the Council of the Federation in support of the trade talks.

European officials insisted that provinces must be involved in the negotiations, but Oram said it is up to Ottawa and the provinces to determine exactly how that will happen.

The EU believes Newfoundland and Labrador is prepared to make commitments and will implement those commitments, Oram noted.

In March, Williams floated the idea of Newfoundland and Labrador inking its own bilateral deal with the Europeans.

Williams said at the time "if that means that there's an agreement between Canada and 12 jurisdictions, and there has to be a separate agreement negotiated with Newfoundland and Labrador, then I'm fine with that."

But that's not going to happen, Oram indicated.

"The Government of Canada is the only government with the authority to conclude international treaties under the Canadian constitution, so our interlocutor and negotiating partner will be the government of Canada," she said. "And it will be for Canada to organize itself in relation to the involvement of the provinces."

Oram said the EU does discuss issues informally with provincial officials. For example, she met with John FitzGerald, Newfoundland and Labrador's Ottawa representative, on the sealing issue last week. "So we do have open lines of communication," she noted.

But those discussions do not stretch to formal talks or agreements.

"It's not that we're singling out Newfoundland," Oram said. "We would no sooner do it with Quebec, Alberta or Ontario. It's just not possible."

Prime Minister Stephen Harper was in Prague last week to formally launch trade talks with European officials.

The kickoff was complicated by a European Parliament vote to ban Canadian seal products. But Harper said Canada will not let the sealing issue "contaminate" trade negotiations.

International Trade Minister Stockwell Day has previously indicated that the provinces "will have an unprecedented level of involvement" in EU trade talks.

The Williams administration has vowed in recent months that Newfoundland and Labrador will take a more active role on the world stage.

The premier was not available for comment before deadline.

rantle@thetelegram.com

Organizations: European Union, European Commission, The Telegram Canada-EU European Parliament International Trade

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  • Funky
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    Could someone explain some of the good things Danny Williams has done?

    Could someone explain how we are better off now then any other time in our history?

    Could someone explain to Doug from AB that no one runs for the premier position?

    Could someone explain to the sheep that the polls of support largely touted by them don't really show the support for the premier they like to portray?

  • MikeSr
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    To the fine people i have met in Newfoundland and Labrador; I have not traveled to the Labrador. Hopefully I will some day when you return to being a sovereign country. Possibly a concerted effort with the Bloc Quebecois will provide a larger base for moving forward with independence. Once you have sorted out how you can contribute to Canada I am sure we will consider it. Cheers

  • Roger
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Well writen Gordon, your 100% correct. Harpo haes our province and it takes all his restraint to keep from publically announcing it. If Canada won't stand up for us then we have to go it alone, spread the word Danny.

  • Patty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Way to go Baxter/Beatrice/Jim (all the same person by writing style and time stamps). Did I hit a nerve ? I don't think I have ever commented whether I am in favour or against any premier, ever. So putting words in peoples' mouths is your idea of an argument with merit ?

    The problem everyone is pointing out here that has you raging with anger (go take your meds), is that no matter what the topic of the article, whether it be Joey's rubber boot factory in Holyrood or the ph level of the soil in the Botanical Gardens, the aptly named tomato boat gang (I thought that was a great name) rushes in and starts offgassing, blaming our premier for things that happened even before he was born.

    You really need to stand back and look at what you write and how stupid you look to normal people who are objective and use sound reasoning.

    You have done yourself a disservice. You had better come back in the future with another name after that walk of shame.

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    As Newfoundlanders you should be applauding Mr. William's refusal to go on board with the likes of Stephen Harper. He doesn't believe we'll get a good deal with Stephen Harper at the head of the negotiations. I find it hard to disagree with that.

  • Bert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Typical telegram, some can get their thought printed over and over but others forget it!!! I have tried on 2 separate occassions to have my comments printed but apparently its not for the right party. This is just for the telegram, don't bother to print it and while you are at it please take my e-mail address off your list for latest news releases. Thank-you

  • Keepin' It Real
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    William from NL: I suppose Danny Williams caused the cod moratorium back in 1992 as well?

    Time to stop being the puppets of the Feds. It's pretty easy for the anti-Williams boneheads to go on about how Danny's a dictator and how he can't negotiate with the nurses and how he's ruining the province without being able to provide any constructive comments about how things should realistcally get done... According to them, being a good leader means rolling over for anyone and everyone who thinks they deserve something. Who the hell do you think is going to pay for the party?

    At least this government doesn't get cold feet and throw up the white flag whenever there's a battle to be fought.

  • Justan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Newfies are a pain in the butt.
    Biggest mistake was to let them in Canada.
    Please, please leave!
    Tired of paying for your lazy, complaining asses.
    Go! We won't miss you, except to save money.!

  • Patty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Can someone explain to Funky Monkey from NL it's not our job to educate him ? The onus is on himself to do so.

    ABCD = Asinine Baxter Commenting Delusionally

  • Karol
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Danny Millions seem to have entered into a political death spiral. Everything that he touches latelly turns into SH!T.

    Too bad that Byrnie, Marshall, Sullivan and others have failed to get rid of Danny in June of 2006.
    Now it seems it is a job that is left to the rest of Canadians to get rid of that bully.

  • Bert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    Funky Monkey. you asked about some of the things that Danny has done for the province. I believe to be fair someone should let you know. Here are some but I doubt you will accept them as being good.
    1. Brough us 2.2 billion from Ottawa
    2. Allowed the auditor General to look at the books, something he or she could not do under past Liberal governments.
    3.Put the retirement money back into the teachers pension.
    4. Got partial ownership of all new findings in offshore oil.
    5. Set up given election dates, whereby a governing party could not call an election just because they are ahead in the polls.
    Let someone else tell you more or maybe you could listen to the news and learn it yourself.

  • Baxter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:28

    Great job as usual Premier Williams you ego maniac dictator. Get over yourself you brainless moron before you ruin this province, and our country. You cant even negotiate with our nurses you spineless excuse for a man. Makes me wonder who is giveing you all this so called approval and popularity or have you fudged those numbers too. ABCD Anyone But Crazy Danny

  • The REAL Bones
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    I wish more of the majority voiced opinions, like they did here today. I don't really believe it would take much to make the haters realize that they are grossly outnumbered. Much of the population is paying attention, and they like, for the most part, what they see.

    Danny sure wears nice ties!
    ;)

  • July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Gordon from Qatar, what you said is similar to what I read from that article. I think the Feds were trying to rewrite history in a very contemptable way (politicians regularly use such cut-throat tactics because they know how short the public memory is.)

    Another very important word choice we should pay attention to from Harper is 'contaminate'. Notice he didn't say anything like 'stall' or 'interrupt'. This shows his clear disdain for our province, implying NLers are dirty or diseased. Harper is full of malice when it comes to NL, to use such a term.

    I see the 'tomato boat gang' rolled into the 'harbour' here this morning, all grumpy and upset. I can almost see the bulging red blood vessels pulsing on their brows and in their necks - it never ceases to provide me with a great sense of satisfaction. Thank-you, you made my day :D

  • Rick
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Doug from AB , it appears to me that you are the brainless moron here. You say that Williams is an educated lawyer... Ever met any lawyers??? I have and believe me, education and being a lawyer are two different things. A Rhode Scholar??? Maybe a Rhodes scholar. So what, if you can't apply critical thinking, then all that education goes down the drain. You like him, you can have him.
    Williams is a Union Leader type bully. I've seen them from both sides of the issue, Management and Union. He is an asscap, an embarrassment to congenial dialogue. Cut Newfoundland loose and Quebec. The rest of Canada will do allright. If not we'll surely be better off as a State. Enough of the leeches.

  • Roger
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Stick it to 'em Danny boy! Never mind the whimps here all petrified at saying boo to the up-alongs!
    Hope we get out of this circus as soon as possible! Get away from the uppity mainlanders please - they have zero respect for us here in Newfind-lind . I have to howl with this though! John FitzGerald was spotted and had a meeting with an EU puppet! Funniest thing yet!

  • Funky
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    I don't want anyone to educate me b'y. But I hear all the time, He's the greatest, he's the best, all the rest were garbage.

    But no explanation why. That is what bothers me. I don't think he's done an amazing job. I don't think he's been useless. But I don't see the big deal or how he's anymore special or done anymore then any other premier.

    And to Anne-Marie....are you serious? We should not complain, or debate or question our leaders? Without debate, or dissention there is no democracy.

  • Jim
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Wow, the Kool Aid drinkers are out in force, and for the most part, represent nicely the kind of moron who favour this Premier. He speaks to the lowest common denominator and has lowered the bar on respectable discourse to such a level that you need to be something that slithers on it's belly to fit in. It's too bad the xenophobic, mindless plebes have so much time to spend writing in to these message forums. I guess they are too moronic to hold paying jobs. God bless their idolatry of Danny Williams. Without him, they'd have to drool into their laps all by themselves.

  • Jim
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Maybe now Bozo the Clown will learn how to be a team player. Nah... he's too used to getting his own way and stamping his feet like a two-year old when it doesn't happen. What was I thinking? Well, we may not have a respectable leader in this province, but he sure provides great entertainment value. Even if he is ruining the future for the rest of us. Maybe when Bozo is no longer the Premier we'll have someone who can begin to repair the damage this clown has caused. We can only hope.

  • Fossil
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    I support Danny Williams. There, I said it. He is approaching EU relations with caution. We do not need build bigger neoliberal policies. The federal government has tunnel vision right now which is bad news for our seal hunt.

  • mainlander
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    When Newfoundland had Provincial Governments that were selling out and making terrible deals, everyone complained. Now that there is a business man running the province like a business and looking for deals that are profitable, people are still bitching. Maybe Danny should go back to the sell-out ways of previous governments to see if that will get his critics to shut up. When I graduated from MUN in '97. almost everyone I knew was leaving. Now a lot of them have gone back to really good jobs in their field. Like it or not, Danny has helped Newfoundland turn around. He has fixed a lot of things that were broken.

  • Manny
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Way to go Danny! Keep stepping up to the plate and telling it like it is. Geez, its to bad there are not more like you. Play this one right and NL just might get those predators in foreign fishing boats to stay home.
    I would be nice to see the backroom meetings about this issue in Ottawa. Maybe that is why the feds announced millions in infrastructure work in NL.

    You have a good leader in NL, not a perfect one.

  • Andrea
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Danny dosent put flags up when he cant get his way he takes them down. Remember that Mr keepin it? The ego named Danny Williams has morons like you drinking from his cup on a daily basis. Stop suckin so hard Keepin it you might choke.

  • William
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Keepin' It Real from NL writes: We're in a position to 'nearly derail' the country's trade talks with the EU but we're not in a position to be important enough for the country to really get behind us on the sealing issue? Hmmm...

    Did you ever think that his comment maybe caused the seal issue

  • Joe
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Why should NFLDers care about Canada's problems with the EU? Canada didn't care about NL when they gave Europeans our fishery to ruin.

  • Anne Marie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    The anti-Williams comments here are a bit over the top. Don't you realize that in belittling Williams you are playing with into the hands of central Canada and the Harper government. They have no use in helping Newfoundland and Labrador in any way. If it were not for Danny Williams, I can only imagine how much worst off Newfoundland would be. Grow up, people. Danny Williams is not perfect. No one is. But he represents Newfoundland because he was elected by the province. Until such time as he is defeated, have some respect for him and for our beautiful province.

  • The REAL Bones
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Baxter: I LOVE how you use the Premier's idea to make your argument against the premier. HA! ABC was originally Williams' idea, and moronic personalities like yourself do not even realize the credibility you add to it when such feeble attempts are made to spin it into an anti-danny-type slogan, HARDYHARHAR. I'm not the only one who remembers the origin of ABC and I'm not the only one who tears up from laughter when it's spun in such a ridiculous manner. Thanks to you and all your cohorts for keeping ABC alive and fresh in the minds of your fellow Newfoundlander and Labradoreans. :)

    Beatrice, my love, throwing around a term of endearment with the condescending undertone like you frequently do leads me to believe you consider yourself superior in some fashion to us mere mortals inhabiting the Earth. Here's a quarter, you should give someone on your home world a call, my love, and tell them to come get ya, the NL'ers are gone raving mad!!

    Jim: God Bless you too!! Are you saying that you represent the kind of moron who DOES NOT favor this premier? I'm pretty sure that's what I read just now...

  • Joe
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    As usual the Liberal crybabies are out in force providing their usual rhetoric!

  • Patty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Funkey Monkey why don't you go to Confederation building and say the exact same things you say here. There's no one here of authority to entertain a debate or to enact any changes. Actually, for most people here, such negative comments go in one ear and out the other, and are lost in the expanse of time. Your overtures of reasonability are pretty easy to see through when you are trying to garnish support on a losing cause.

  • Manny
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    It will take years to fix the mess that NL finds itself in. Some of that can be blamed on both levels of government. Danny Williams is working on fixing that mess, with time I hope he will. You whiners just want your own personal fixes right now and don't/cant't see the bigger picture.

  • DB
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Hey Gorden you know what the say ASSUME spells out it make an As% out of you and me I guess they are the big one up there.As for all the Danny this Danny that comments it's about time some said no to the sc%ewing we have been getting over the past years.Look at the previous Liberal government the let Inco take ore out of Labrador worth much more then what they are going to return.

  • Some people suffer from
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    I see the Liberal hacks, espcially those who would sell out their province for the cost of getting delegate status and a trip to a convention for the election of their leader, are at it again.

    These are the type of people who have sold our province down the drain. They suffer from the 'me syndrome'.

    One such hack started off the commentary to this article and I have to say such people make me sick!

    It is quite obvious that some Newfoundlanders and Labradorians do not see the forest for the trees and they only care about their own well being.

    In other words they do not have any sense of how to propel our province into the 'economic age' where everyone prospers and the province is on equal status with the rest of Canada and the developed world, since they just think about themselves. That is a terrible ailment for one to be inflicted with.

    Premier Williams is the right person for this province at this time.

    I hope he doesn't turn tables on us like the other Premiers did, if he does I will change my tune as well.

  • Sam
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    Continue to hold true to your beliefs and stand firm Premier Williams, you were given a huge mandate in the last election for that very purpose. Despite what Fabian Manning, Yvon Jones and the nurses are saying, the people of our province are strongly backing you and the naysayers know it!

  • John W.
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    I have seen premiers come and go. Our present premier, Premier Williams is by far the most tenacious, progressive, loyal, altruistic, and respected leader I have ever known.

    Yes indeed, possibly in every situation, we will have a few who do have a different opinion about our premier, but in my books, he is my choice over all others. I say to him, keep up the good work.

  • Patty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Doug from AB I couldn't have said it better myself. These extremely negative, one-track-minded people (scary people if you ask me) should either toss their hat into the ring and run for premier, or be quiet. Put their money where their mouth is. If they're not willing to step up to the plate and and try to make things better then they should walk away and accept it. If they do not want to be part of the solution, fine. But right now, they are certainly part of the problem as unemployed, idle and a public nuisance, here in NL.

  • Keepin' It Real
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    We're in a position to 'nearly derail' the country's trade talks with the EU but we're not in a position to be important enough for the country to really get behind us on the sealing issue? Hmmm...

  • mikki
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    way to go danny, keep up the good fight for Newfoundland.

  • Gordon
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    The Feds assumed that N.L. was on board , and so the trade talks were nearly rerailed. Perhaps the Federal Government should not have made such an assumption.

  • randy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    No buyer wants to buy crab this morning unless it's for a dollar 12 a pound. Maybe he should talk to his buddies in the processing secter,or is he just to busy playing political games with Harper.What a wasted Vote he has become for rural nl

  • Beatrice
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Patty my love dilusional describes you to a T. Then again thats the way most Danny worshipers are these days. They dont want to hear and cant actually handle the truth about the little ego maniac tyrant. Sometimes Patty the truth hurts. DEAL WITH IT.

  • Doug
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Baxter - Who's the brainless moron here? Danny Williams is an educated lawyer, successful businessman, a rhode scholar and will likely go down in history as the best Premier of the fine province of Newfoundland and Labrador.

    He has continuously fought for the best interests of the people of Newfoundland and Labrador and get's nothing in return but pissing and moaning from idiots like you.

    If you think you could do a better job, why don't you Baxter run for the Premier position.

    I would hate to see the dismay the province would be in if a fool like you had any authority other than lacing up your own shoes, if in fact you can even do that Baxter! I suspect your a Velcro type of guy!!

  • Baxter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Ok just for the record lets get this straight. According to Patty anyone who dosent kiss Dannys arse every time he bends over is Asinine and Delusional. Hell I cant argue with logic like that Patty my dear it seems to me your probably an expert on both these subjects. Other than the usual insults Patty my dear what was your point exactly. You do have one do you? Perhaps your waiting for Danny to come out of hideing so then you can repeat whetever he says. Oh well A B C D just for Patty A Bit Childish Darlin. Now does that make you feel better?

  • John W.
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Thanks Patty from NL. I couldn't get up the courage to answer anyone like that, who many times seem to go off the deep end for no good reason. There are some who you dont want to tangle with, regardless of the situation, like for instance, BannedSmoker from NB.

  • Funky
    July 01, 2010 - 20:25

    Could someone explain some of the good things Danny Williams has done?

    Could someone explain how we are better off now then any other time in our history?

    Could someone explain to Doug from AB that no one runs for the premier position?

    Could someone explain to the sheep that the polls of support largely touted by them don't really show the support for the premier they like to portray?

  • MikeSr
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    To the fine people i have met in Newfoundland and Labrador; I have not traveled to the Labrador. Hopefully I will some day when you return to being a sovereign country. Possibly a concerted effort with the Bloc Quebecois will provide a larger base for moving forward with independence. Once you have sorted out how you can contribute to Canada I am sure we will consider it. Cheers

  • Roger
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    Well writen Gordon, your 100% correct. Harpo haes our province and it takes all his restraint to keep from publically announcing it. If Canada won't stand up for us then we have to go it alone, spread the word Danny.

  • Patty
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    Way to go Baxter/Beatrice/Jim (all the same person by writing style and time stamps). Did I hit a nerve ? I don't think I have ever commented whether I am in favour or against any premier, ever. So putting words in peoples' mouths is your idea of an argument with merit ?

    The problem everyone is pointing out here that has you raging with anger (go take your meds), is that no matter what the topic of the article, whether it be Joey's rubber boot factory in Holyrood or the ph level of the soil in the Botanical Gardens, the aptly named tomato boat gang (I thought that was a great name) rushes in and starts offgassing, blaming our premier for things that happened even before he was born.

    You really need to stand back and look at what you write and how stupid you look to normal people who are objective and use sound reasoning.

    You have done yourself a disservice. You had better come back in the future with another name after that walk of shame.

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    As Newfoundlanders you should be applauding Mr. William's refusal to go on board with the likes of Stephen Harper. He doesn't believe we'll get a good deal with Stephen Harper at the head of the negotiations. I find it hard to disagree with that.

  • Bert
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Typical telegram, some can get their thought printed over and over but others forget it!!! I have tried on 2 separate occassions to have my comments printed but apparently its not for the right party. This is just for the telegram, don't bother to print it and while you are at it please take my e-mail address off your list for latest news releases. Thank-you

  • Keepin' It Real
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    William from NL: I suppose Danny Williams caused the cod moratorium back in 1992 as well?

    Time to stop being the puppets of the Feds. It's pretty easy for the anti-Williams boneheads to go on about how Danny's a dictator and how he can't negotiate with the nurses and how he's ruining the province without being able to provide any constructive comments about how things should realistcally get done... According to them, being a good leader means rolling over for anyone and everyone who thinks they deserve something. Who the hell do you think is going to pay for the party?

    At least this government doesn't get cold feet and throw up the white flag whenever there's a battle to be fought.

  • Justan
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    Newfies are a pain in the butt.
    Biggest mistake was to let them in Canada.
    Please, please leave!
    Tired of paying for your lazy, complaining asses.
    Go! We won't miss you, except to save money.!

  • Patty
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    Can someone explain to Funky Monkey from NL it's not our job to educate him ? The onus is on himself to do so.

    ABCD = Asinine Baxter Commenting Delusionally

  • Karol
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    Danny Millions seem to have entered into a political death spiral. Everything that he touches latelly turns into SH!T.

    Too bad that Byrnie, Marshall, Sullivan and others have failed to get rid of Danny in June of 2006.
    Now it seems it is a job that is left to the rest of Canadians to get rid of that bully.

  • Bert
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    Funky Monkey. you asked about some of the things that Danny has done for the province. I believe to be fair someone should let you know. Here are some but I doubt you will accept them as being good.
    1. Brough us 2.2 billion from Ottawa
    2. Allowed the auditor General to look at the books, something he or she could not do under past Liberal governments.
    3.Put the retirement money back into the teachers pension.
    4. Got partial ownership of all new findings in offshore oil.
    5. Set up given election dates, whereby a governing party could not call an election just because they are ahead in the polls.
    Let someone else tell you more or maybe you could listen to the news and learn it yourself.

  • Baxter
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    Great job as usual Premier Williams you ego maniac dictator. Get over yourself you brainless moron before you ruin this province, and our country. You cant even negotiate with our nurses you spineless excuse for a man. Makes me wonder who is giveing you all this so called approval and popularity or have you fudged those numbers too. ABCD Anyone But Crazy Danny

  • The REAL Bones
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    I wish more of the majority voiced opinions, like they did here today. I don't really believe it would take much to make the haters realize that they are grossly outnumbered. Much of the population is paying attention, and they like, for the most part, what they see.

    Danny sure wears nice ties!
    ;)

  • July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Gordon from Qatar, what you said is similar to what I read from that article. I think the Feds were trying to rewrite history in a very contemptable way (politicians regularly use such cut-throat tactics because they know how short the public memory is.)

    Another very important word choice we should pay attention to from Harper is 'contaminate'. Notice he didn't say anything like 'stall' or 'interrupt'. This shows his clear disdain for our province, implying NLers are dirty or diseased. Harper is full of malice when it comes to NL, to use such a term.

    I see the 'tomato boat gang' rolled into the 'harbour' here this morning, all grumpy and upset. I can almost see the bulging red blood vessels pulsing on their brows and in their necks - it never ceases to provide me with a great sense of satisfaction. Thank-you, you made my day :D

  • Rick
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    Doug from AB , it appears to me that you are the brainless moron here. You say that Williams is an educated lawyer... Ever met any lawyers??? I have and believe me, education and being a lawyer are two different things. A Rhode Scholar??? Maybe a Rhodes scholar. So what, if you can't apply critical thinking, then all that education goes down the drain. You like him, you can have him.
    Williams is a Union Leader type bully. I've seen them from both sides of the issue, Management and Union. He is an asscap, an embarrassment to congenial dialogue. Cut Newfoundland loose and Quebec. The rest of Canada will do allright. If not we'll surely be better off as a State. Enough of the leeches.

  • Roger
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    Stick it to 'em Danny boy! Never mind the whimps here all petrified at saying boo to the up-alongs!
    Hope we get out of this circus as soon as possible! Get away from the uppity mainlanders please - they have zero respect for us here in Newfind-lind . I have to howl with this though! John FitzGerald was spotted and had a meeting with an EU puppet! Funniest thing yet!

  • Funky
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    I don't want anyone to educate me b'y. But I hear all the time, He's the greatest, he's the best, all the rest were garbage.

    But no explanation why. That is what bothers me. I don't think he's done an amazing job. I don't think he's been useless. But I don't see the big deal or how he's anymore special or done anymore then any other premier.

    And to Anne-Marie....are you serious? We should not complain, or debate or question our leaders? Without debate, or dissention there is no democracy.

  • Jim
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    Wow, the Kool Aid drinkers are out in force, and for the most part, represent nicely the kind of moron who favour this Premier. He speaks to the lowest common denominator and has lowered the bar on respectable discourse to such a level that you need to be something that slithers on it's belly to fit in. It's too bad the xenophobic, mindless plebes have so much time to spend writing in to these message forums. I guess they are too moronic to hold paying jobs. God bless their idolatry of Danny Williams. Without him, they'd have to drool into their laps all by themselves.

  • Jim
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    Maybe now Bozo the Clown will learn how to be a team player. Nah... he's too used to getting his own way and stamping his feet like a two-year old when it doesn't happen. What was I thinking? Well, we may not have a respectable leader in this province, but he sure provides great entertainment value. Even if he is ruining the future for the rest of us. Maybe when Bozo is no longer the Premier we'll have someone who can begin to repair the damage this clown has caused. We can only hope.

  • Fossil
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    I support Danny Williams. There, I said it. He is approaching EU relations with caution. We do not need build bigger neoliberal policies. The federal government has tunnel vision right now which is bad news for our seal hunt.

  • mainlander
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    When Newfoundland had Provincial Governments that were selling out and making terrible deals, everyone complained. Now that there is a business man running the province like a business and looking for deals that are profitable, people are still bitching. Maybe Danny should go back to the sell-out ways of previous governments to see if that will get his critics to shut up. When I graduated from MUN in '97. almost everyone I knew was leaving. Now a lot of them have gone back to really good jobs in their field. Like it or not, Danny has helped Newfoundland turn around. He has fixed a lot of things that were broken.

  • Manny
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    Way to go Danny! Keep stepping up to the plate and telling it like it is. Geez, its to bad there are not more like you. Play this one right and NL just might get those predators in foreign fishing boats to stay home.
    I would be nice to see the backroom meetings about this issue in Ottawa. Maybe that is why the feds announced millions in infrastructure work in NL.

    You have a good leader in NL, not a perfect one.

  • Andrea
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    Danny dosent put flags up when he cant get his way he takes them down. Remember that Mr keepin it? The ego named Danny Williams has morons like you drinking from his cup on a daily basis. Stop suckin so hard Keepin it you might choke.

  • William
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Keepin' It Real from NL writes: We're in a position to 'nearly derail' the country's trade talks with the EU but we're not in a position to be important enough for the country to really get behind us on the sealing issue? Hmmm...

    Did you ever think that his comment maybe caused the seal issue

  • Joe
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    Why should NFLDers care about Canada's problems with the EU? Canada didn't care about NL when they gave Europeans our fishery to ruin.

  • Anne Marie
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    The anti-Williams comments here are a bit over the top. Don't you realize that in belittling Williams you are playing with into the hands of central Canada and the Harper government. They have no use in helping Newfoundland and Labrador in any way. If it were not for Danny Williams, I can only imagine how much worst off Newfoundland would be. Grow up, people. Danny Williams is not perfect. No one is. But he represents Newfoundland because he was elected by the province. Until such time as he is defeated, have some respect for him and for our beautiful province.

  • The REAL Bones
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    Baxter: I LOVE how you use the Premier's idea to make your argument against the premier. HA! ABC was originally Williams' idea, and moronic personalities like yourself do not even realize the credibility you add to it when such feeble attempts are made to spin it into an anti-danny-type slogan, HARDYHARHAR. I'm not the only one who remembers the origin of ABC and I'm not the only one who tears up from laughter when it's spun in such a ridiculous manner. Thanks to you and all your cohorts for keeping ABC alive and fresh in the minds of your fellow Newfoundlander and Labradoreans. :)

    Beatrice, my love, throwing around a term of endearment with the condescending undertone like you frequently do leads me to believe you consider yourself superior in some fashion to us mere mortals inhabiting the Earth. Here's a quarter, you should give someone on your home world a call, my love, and tell them to come get ya, the NL'ers are gone raving mad!!

    Jim: God Bless you too!! Are you saying that you represent the kind of moron who DOES NOT favor this premier? I'm pretty sure that's what I read just now...

  • Joe
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    As usual the Liberal crybabies are out in force providing their usual rhetoric!

  • Patty
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Funkey Monkey why don't you go to Confederation building and say the exact same things you say here. There's no one here of authority to entertain a debate or to enact any changes. Actually, for most people here, such negative comments go in one ear and out the other, and are lost in the expanse of time. Your overtures of reasonability are pretty easy to see through when you are trying to garnish support on a losing cause.

  • Manny
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    It will take years to fix the mess that NL finds itself in. Some of that can be blamed on both levels of government. Danny Williams is working on fixing that mess, with time I hope he will. You whiners just want your own personal fixes right now and don't/cant't see the bigger picture.

  • DB
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Hey Gorden you know what the say ASSUME spells out it make an As% out of you and me I guess they are the big one up there.As for all the Danny this Danny that comments it's about time some said no to the sc%ewing we have been getting over the past years.Look at the previous Liberal government the let Inco take ore out of Labrador worth much more then what they are going to return.

  • Sam
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    Continue to hold true to your beliefs and stand firm Premier Williams, you were given a huge mandate in the last election for that very purpose. Despite what Fabian Manning, Yvon Jones and the nurses are saying, the people of our province are strongly backing you and the naysayers know it!

  • Some people suffer from
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    I see the Liberal hacks, espcially those who would sell out their province for the cost of getting delegate status and a trip to a convention for the election of their leader, are at it again.

    These are the type of people who have sold our province down the drain. They suffer from the 'me syndrome'.

    One such hack started off the commentary to this article and I have to say such people make me sick!

    It is quite obvious that some Newfoundlanders and Labradorians do not see the forest for the trees and they only care about their own well being.

    In other words they do not have any sense of how to propel our province into the 'economic age' where everyone prospers and the province is on equal status with the rest of Canada and the developed world, since they just think about themselves. That is a terrible ailment for one to be inflicted with.

    Premier Williams is the right person for this province at this time.

    I hope he doesn't turn tables on us like the other Premiers did, if he does I will change my tune as well.

  • John W.
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    I have seen premiers come and go. Our present premier, Premier Williams is by far the most tenacious, progressive, loyal, altruistic, and respected leader I have ever known.

    Yes indeed, possibly in every situation, we will have a few who do have a different opinion about our premier, but in my books, he is my choice over all others. I say to him, keep up the good work.

  • Patty
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    Doug from AB I couldn't have said it better myself. These extremely negative, one-track-minded people (scary people if you ask me) should either toss their hat into the ring and run for premier, or be quiet. Put their money where their mouth is. If they're not willing to step up to the plate and and try to make things better then they should walk away and accept it. If they do not want to be part of the solution, fine. But right now, they are certainly part of the problem as unemployed, idle and a public nuisance, here in NL.

  • Keepin' It Real
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    We're in a position to 'nearly derail' the country's trade talks with the EU but we're not in a position to be important enough for the country to really get behind us on the sealing issue? Hmmm...

  • mikki
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    way to go danny, keep up the good fight for Newfoundland.

  • Gordon
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    The Feds assumed that N.L. was on board , and so the trade talks were nearly rerailed. Perhaps the Federal Government should not have made such an assumption.

  • randy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    No buyer wants to buy crab this morning unless it's for a dollar 12 a pound. Maybe he should talk to his buddies in the processing secter,or is he just to busy playing political games with Harper.What a wasted Vote he has become for rural nl

  • Beatrice
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Patty my love dilusional describes you to a T. Then again thats the way most Danny worshipers are these days. They dont want to hear and cant actually handle the truth about the little ego maniac tyrant. Sometimes Patty the truth hurts. DEAL WITH IT.

  • Doug
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Baxter - Who's the brainless moron here? Danny Williams is an educated lawyer, successful businessman, a rhode scholar and will likely go down in history as the best Premier of the fine province of Newfoundland and Labrador.

    He has continuously fought for the best interests of the people of Newfoundland and Labrador and get's nothing in return but pissing and moaning from idiots like you.

    If you think you could do a better job, why don't you Baxter run for the Premier position.

    I would hate to see the dismay the province would be in if a fool like you had any authority other than lacing up your own shoes, if in fact you can even do that Baxter! I suspect your a Velcro type of guy!!

  • Baxter
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    Ok just for the record lets get this straight. According to Patty anyone who dosent kiss Dannys arse every time he bends over is Asinine and Delusional. Hell I cant argue with logic like that Patty my dear it seems to me your probably an expert on both these subjects. Other than the usual insults Patty my dear what was your point exactly. You do have one do you? Perhaps your waiting for Danny to come out of hideing so then you can repeat whetever he says. Oh well A B C D just for Patty A Bit Childish Darlin. Now does that make you feel better?

  • John W.
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Thanks Patty from NL. I couldn't get up the courage to answer anyone like that, who many times seem to go off the deep end for no good reason. There are some who you dont want to tangle with, regardless of the situation, like for instance, BannedSmoker from NB.