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  • ann
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Why do we have to subsidize people who are living on Bell Island? If you choose to live there, then you will to suffer the consequences. It is time for people to realize there is no free lunch.

  • chris
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    A fixed link or tunnel , wouldn't it be cheaper just to build them all new houses on the Portugal cove side and tell them there are no more services, here is your new house, this is ridiculous. This place is a retirement center. As there people all get older they are going to be requiring more medical help and they expect a first class system when the rest of the island doesn't have it.

    How many people live on this island anyway?

  • Art
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    I travel to the island 3 times a week to bring goods over. If I'm late getting to the ferry I could have to wait up to 3 hours. For me time is money. What boils me is how I watch a G4S armoured truck go past me and get on the ferry with no wait time at all. I guess its the big companies that get the breaks and never the little guys. It should be at least a fair system.

  • the butler did it
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Frank...I believe that's the same argument that upper Canada used re Newfoundland and the Marine Atlantic ferry.. We need to preserve our rural communities and shores in order for us to keep our heritage alive. Maybe we should think of ways to get people to move outside the overpass instead of writing them off. Open you mind.

  • Get ready to be
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    Come on now. Danny Oil Bucks could have all these running at no cost to the users. But I guess since Danny NO OIL BUCKS failed to take into consideration any investment with the last surplus this province will ever see we will always be left wanting and wondering what could have been. Danny has cost this province more then we think, and will go down in history as the biggest fool ever to hold office. Only Danny could have lost a multi billion dollar surplus so fast and have nothing to show for it. Time for a criminal investigation into the mismanagement of public funds.

  • b
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    Here's my wish list..relocate the residents and sell the island. There's could be very beneficial uses for the island, resort, casino, jail. Then the new owners could make the ferry a useful profitable venture.

  • grant
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Me and my wife decided to drive up the north shore of quebec to montreal for the first time. we always did the south side route. we left. we left baie comeau and drove until near dark. we came on top of a big hill and in the distance we saw flashing lights. thinking it was construction we continued on down the hill untill we came to the bottom and there was a man with an orange vest on waving us on this huge ferry, a transport truck in front one behind us, cars loading all around us. i said to my wife that we didnt have tickets, and no one asked. after about 5 minutes we set sail, passing another ferry going the other way. about 15 minutes we reached the other side, down went the ramps and off everyone went, we never had to get out of our car. next stop we asked a gas attendent and he said it was the tadoussac ferry, and was free because it was part of the highway. I said to my wife, just imagine if that road was in newfoundland, what a confusion, line ups. ticket booths, break downs. i can assure you if the bell island ferry was in quebec there would be no charge for its use or she would never sail.

  • Maurice E.
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Frank, it is towns and communites like Bell Island that are critical to making this great province the place that it is ---- and the government must wake up and put the money into making such towns viable. Minister Whelan is right to take Bell Island's concerns very seriously and to make sure the issues are properly addressed. Jack Harris also has made a very valuable contribution and suggestion to the issue.

  • Frank
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Another good reason not to live on that desolated rock. It's time the rest of us tax payers stopped subsidising a dead place. I beleive the mines are closed and are not producing revenue any alonger....heeelo!

  • Earle
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    grant from nl the Tadoussac ferry is paid for by Churchill Falls Hydro. I don't need to explain this to you.


    Island Lady from Bell Island, newfoundland says, 'who in their right mine would want to live in the St. John's area now with the high cost of rent and morgages.' I guess you meant 'mind' not 'mine' (very punny). But you see, you are pushing your cost of living off your own shoulders and onto the taxpayers shoulders to provide you a ferry to nowhere. Perhaps we should look into how we can make the cost of living on Bell Island equal to that of St. John's so we are all on a fair playing field. You are just using a cost of living loophole to have us subsidize your lifestyle. Nothing more, nothing less. How about the rest of the St. John's residents move out to uninhabited islands and demand ferry services. Let's see then how high ALL of our taxes go.

  • Island
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    The working residents of Bell Island who commute on a daily basis and using the ferry service are the ones who are left holding the bag these days having to explain to their employer why they are late for work on a constant basis. Works are up as early as 4 am to get to work for 8:00 and these days still cannot manage to get to work on time due to interruptions they are experiencing from the ferry service.

    With regards to overtime as a resident of Bell Island I firmly do believe that the overtime is abused and work should be performed during regular working hours. The sick leave abuse on the Bell Island ferry amongst the workers are very high and it is a game you scratch my back and I will scratch your back because it has been known that some people phone in sick so another person can get the call in for overtime. (This has been a game long time overdue for inspection) and the residents of Bell Island are suffering for it.

    Bell Island Residents are not lazy people and want to work and with regards to shutting down the Bell Island community and moving to the greater St. John's area who in their right mine would want to live in the St. John's area now with the high cost of rent and morgages.

    Bell Island residents deserve far much better service than we have been receiving. Time for a change in the ferry system and the people who make the rules and the people who work for the ferry service it is an all three ring process.

  • Chris
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Don't knock it until you try it, Frank! Bell Island is just like many other communities on the Northeast Avalon where people commute to work in other communities. Following your logic, we should close down every rural NL community that suffers the loss of a key employer.

  • Frank
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Chris Hammond....I beleive you are out of touch with reality. I do agree there are many people who commute, however they do not depend on ferry crossings to get there. The only issues these commuters ,other than Bell Island commuters, may encounter are stormy days, albeit not too many considering the highways are well maintained in winter. Bell Island is basically a ghost town and produces no revenue for the govt. coffers, yet they demand these services, ferry crossings, hospitals, schools etc. Let's get real here.

  • Not a Tucker
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    How much is spend annually to provide insufficient service? How much would have to be spent annually to provide adequate service?

    How much would a fixed link or bridge cost in construction and annual maintenance?

    Now the hard question: How much would it cost for government to resettle the island's residents?

  • Donny
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    Well, well, well, what do we have here? The Bell Island mine closed 4 decades ago and the 50 or 60 residents left are whining and complaining about their 2 ferrys again? I can't think of a bigger waste of money than those 20 trips a day. I have long term solution and it's called re-location...problem solved.

  • Pierre Neary
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    A 7:20am run is not asking very much. This should be reinstated immediatley. The two shift system is a good idea as well.

  • Island
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    To EARLE:

    Probably you should move to an uninhabitated island and experience the way of life as you think Bell Islander's live. Probably you could get a job in the SPELL CHECK area with Microsoft WORD company.... seeing you think you are so good in commeting on mispelled words and not focusing on the topic.

  • Simon
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Sorry, Frank, are you talking about Bell Island or Newfoundland? I've heard the same argument put forth by some mainlanders.

  • Heather
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Since B.I. residents say they don't want to live in St. John's because the rents/mortgages are higher, they should use the money they save by living on the island to pay for the ferries. They don't mind the cheaper rents being subsidized by the taxpayers in the other side.

  • -
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Yes Frank, and soon this Island of Newfoundland will follow. Hope you will not resist too much when you are forced to relocate to Quebec.

  • ann
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Why do we have to subsidize people who are living on Bell Island? If you choose to live there, then you will to suffer the consequences. It is time for people to realize there is no free lunch.

  • chris
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    A fixed link or tunnel , wouldn't it be cheaper just to build them all new houses on the Portugal cove side and tell them there are no more services, here is your new house, this is ridiculous. This place is a retirement center. As there people all get older they are going to be requiring more medical help and they expect a first class system when the rest of the island doesn't have it.

    How many people live on this island anyway?

  • Art
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    I travel to the island 3 times a week to bring goods over. If I'm late getting to the ferry I could have to wait up to 3 hours. For me time is money. What boils me is how I watch a G4S armoured truck go past me and get on the ferry with no wait time at all. I guess its the big companies that get the breaks and never the little guys. It should be at least a fair system.

  • the butler did it
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    Frank...I believe that's the same argument that upper Canada used re Newfoundland and the Marine Atlantic ferry.. We need to preserve our rural communities and shores in order for us to keep our heritage alive. Maybe we should think of ways to get people to move outside the overpass instead of writing them off. Open you mind.

  • Get ready to be
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    Come on now. Danny Oil Bucks could have all these running at no cost to the users. But I guess since Danny NO OIL BUCKS failed to take into consideration any investment with the last surplus this province will ever see we will always be left wanting and wondering what could have been. Danny has cost this province more then we think, and will go down in history as the biggest fool ever to hold office. Only Danny could have lost a multi billion dollar surplus so fast and have nothing to show for it. Time for a criminal investigation into the mismanagement of public funds.

  • b
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    Here's my wish list..relocate the residents and sell the island. There's could be very beneficial uses for the island, resort, casino, jail. Then the new owners could make the ferry a useful profitable venture.

  • grant
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Me and my wife decided to drive up the north shore of quebec to montreal for the first time. we always did the south side route. we left. we left baie comeau and drove until near dark. we came on top of a big hill and in the distance we saw flashing lights. thinking it was construction we continued on down the hill untill we came to the bottom and there was a man with an orange vest on waving us on this huge ferry, a transport truck in front one behind us, cars loading all around us. i said to my wife that we didnt have tickets, and no one asked. after about 5 minutes we set sail, passing another ferry going the other way. about 15 minutes we reached the other side, down went the ramps and off everyone went, we never had to get out of our car. next stop we asked a gas attendent and he said it was the tadoussac ferry, and was free because it was part of the highway. I said to my wife, just imagine if that road was in newfoundland, what a confusion, line ups. ticket booths, break downs. i can assure you if the bell island ferry was in quebec there would be no charge for its use or she would never sail.

  • Maurice E.
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    Frank, it is towns and communites like Bell Island that are critical to making this great province the place that it is ---- and the government must wake up and put the money into making such towns viable. Minister Whelan is right to take Bell Island's concerns very seriously and to make sure the issues are properly addressed. Jack Harris also has made a very valuable contribution and suggestion to the issue.

  • Frank
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    Another good reason not to live on that desolated rock. It's time the rest of us tax payers stopped subsidising a dead place. I beleive the mines are closed and are not producing revenue any alonger....heeelo!

  • Earle
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    grant from nl the Tadoussac ferry is paid for by Churchill Falls Hydro. I don't need to explain this to you.


    Island Lady from Bell Island, newfoundland says, 'who in their right mine would want to live in the St. John's area now with the high cost of rent and morgages.' I guess you meant 'mind' not 'mine' (very punny). But you see, you are pushing your cost of living off your own shoulders and onto the taxpayers shoulders to provide you a ferry to nowhere. Perhaps we should look into how we can make the cost of living on Bell Island equal to that of St. John's so we are all on a fair playing field. You are just using a cost of living loophole to have us subsidize your lifestyle. Nothing more, nothing less. How about the rest of the St. John's residents move out to uninhabited islands and demand ferry services. Let's see then how high ALL of our taxes go.

  • Island
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    The working residents of Bell Island who commute on a daily basis and using the ferry service are the ones who are left holding the bag these days having to explain to their employer why they are late for work on a constant basis. Works are up as early as 4 am to get to work for 8:00 and these days still cannot manage to get to work on time due to interruptions they are experiencing from the ferry service.

    With regards to overtime as a resident of Bell Island I firmly do believe that the overtime is abused and work should be performed during regular working hours. The sick leave abuse on the Bell Island ferry amongst the workers are very high and it is a game you scratch my back and I will scratch your back because it has been known that some people phone in sick so another person can get the call in for overtime. (This has been a game long time overdue for inspection) and the residents of Bell Island are suffering for it.

    Bell Island Residents are not lazy people and want to work and with regards to shutting down the Bell Island community and moving to the greater St. John's area who in their right mine would want to live in the St. John's area now with the high cost of rent and morgages.

    Bell Island residents deserve far much better service than we have been receiving. Time for a change in the ferry system and the people who make the rules and the people who work for the ferry service it is an all three ring process.

  • Chris
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Don't knock it until you try it, Frank! Bell Island is just like many other communities on the Northeast Avalon where people commute to work in other communities. Following your logic, we should close down every rural NL community that suffers the loss of a key employer.

  • Frank
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    Chris Hammond....I beleive you are out of touch with reality. I do agree there are many people who commute, however they do not depend on ferry crossings to get there. The only issues these commuters ,other than Bell Island commuters, may encounter are stormy days, albeit not too many considering the highways are well maintained in winter. Bell Island is basically a ghost town and produces no revenue for the govt. coffers, yet they demand these services, ferry crossings, hospitals, schools etc. Let's get real here.

  • Not a Tucker
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    How much is spend annually to provide insufficient service? How much would have to be spent annually to provide adequate service?

    How much would a fixed link or bridge cost in construction and annual maintenance?

    Now the hard question: How much would it cost for government to resettle the island's residents?

  • Donny
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    Well, well, well, what do we have here? The Bell Island mine closed 4 decades ago and the 50 or 60 residents left are whining and complaining about their 2 ferrys again? I can't think of a bigger waste of money than those 20 trips a day. I have long term solution and it's called re-location...problem solved.

  • Pierre Neary
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    A 7:20am run is not asking very much. This should be reinstated immediatley. The two shift system is a good idea as well.

  • Island
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    To EARLE:

    Probably you should move to an uninhabitated island and experience the way of life as you think Bell Islander's live. Probably you could get a job in the SPELL CHECK area with Microsoft WORD company.... seeing you think you are so good in commeting on mispelled words and not focusing on the topic.

  • Simon
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    Sorry, Frank, are you talking about Bell Island or Newfoundland? I've heard the same argument put forth by some mainlanders.

  • Heather
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    Since B.I. residents say they don't want to live in St. John's because the rents/mortgages are higher, they should use the money they save by living on the island to pay for the ferries. They don't mind the cheaper rents being subsidized by the taxpayers in the other side.

  • -
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Yes Frank, and soon this Island of Newfoundland will follow. Hope you will not resist too much when you are forced to relocate to Quebec.