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Moira Baird & Terry Roberts
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How salaries for senior executives compare

Ever wonder how much senior executives at some Crown corporations or provincially funded authorities are paid?

Let's take Nalcor Energy, for instance.

The salaries for the province's flagship energy corporation don't appear in provincial budget documents - but they are available upon request.

The payroll for nine senior executives at Nalcor totalled more than $2.26 million last year, according to information provided to The Telegram by Nalcor Energy. (See graphic, page A2, for details)

Ever wonder how much senior executives at some Crown corporations or provincially funded authorities are paid?

Let's take Nalcor Energy, for instance.

The salaries for the province's flagship energy corporation don't appear in provincial budget documents - but they are available upon request.

The payroll for nine senior executives at Nalcor totalled more than $2.26 million last year, according to information provided to The Telegram by Nalcor Energy. (See graphic, page A2, for details)

Included in that payroll is $505,700 in salary, performance and other compensation, and car allowance paid to Nalcor president and CEO Ed Martin. It doesn't include a one-time payment of $112,492 to Martin for unused vacation accumulated from 2005 to 2009.

Nalcor had revenues of $569.2 million, according to its 2008 annual report.

To compare those payrolls, The Telegram also requested similar information from Eastern Health, Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corp. (NLHC), Newfoundland and Labrador Liquor Corp. (NLC), and several utility/energy corporations in other parts of the country.

At Eastern Health, the province's largest health-care authority, salaries and other compensation paid to 12 senior executives totalled more than $1.98 million last year.

That includes a $385,000 salary, along with car allowance of $10,000 and housing allowance of $35,000, paid to president and CEO Vickie Kaminski.

Eleven other senior executives, except Kaminski, receive education allowances ranging from just under $1,000 to just over $2,600.

Eastern Health had revenues of more than $1 billion in 2008-09, the bulk of it allotted in the provincial budget.

Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corp.'s total pay package for its president and top executives totalled $661,841 last year.

The Crown corporation's chairman and CEO, Len Simms, was paid a salary of $148,642.

NLHC said its executives do not receive performance bonuses or allowances.

In 2008-09, NLHC had revenues of $128.2 million, which included an operating grant of $35.7 million from the provincial government.

The Newfoundland and Labrador Liquor Corp. paid its top six executives more than $800,000.

The NLC's CEO, Steve Winter, was paid nearly $207,000. The NLC compensation package does not include bonuses or allowances, Winter explained.

The NLC had revenues of roughly $260 million in the most recent fiscal year, and turned over $124 million of this to the provincial government as a dividend.

Salaries and incentives for five top executives at Emera Inc., a publicly traded energy company based in Nova Scotia, totalled more than $3.5 million last year. Its salary information is published annually.

Company president and CEO Christopher Huskilson collected salary and incentives of more than $1.3 million last year.

For comparison purposes, the salary totals for Emera executives in this story do not include other compensation they received, such as stock options.

Emera owns electric utilities, including Nova Scotia Power and Bangor Hydro Electric Co., and is involved in natural gas transmission through subsidiary Brunswick Pipeline.

Last year, Emera had revenues of $389.1 million.

Toronto Hydro Corp., a holding company that distributes electricity through its subsidiaries in the greater Toronto area, had a payroll of more than $1.7 million last year for its top seven executives.

Two men filled the job of corporation president and CEO following a retirement in August 2009.

Combined, they were paid more than $1.27 million last year in salary and performance-based incentives. This number does not include other forms of compensation, such as pension benefits.

Last year, Toronto Hydro had gross revenues of almost $2.6 billion.

Not all provincial Crown corporations - NB Power and Manitoba Hydro - were willing to provide the details of compensation packages paid to their senior executives.

NB Power generates and distributes electricity in New Brunswick.

"NB Power would be in violation of the Protection of Personal Information Act (POPIA) if we were to disclose the information sought," said an e-mailed response from NB Power spokesman John McLaughlin.

He did say NB Power is reducing and controlling costs as requested by New Brunswick Premier Shawn Graham. Part of that plan includes reducing the number of vice-presidents from eight to five.

Manitoba Hydro, a Crown corporation that distributes electricity and natural gas, did not provide the information by deadline.

Hydro public affairs manager Glenn Schneider said the corporation publishes salary information once a year, though it does not usually distribute the details nationally.

The information is not available on online.

mbaird@thetelegram.com troberts@thetelegram.com




SALARIES OF THE CEO'S

Nalcor Energy president and CEO
$390,613 (base salary)
$115,080 (performance and other compensation including car allowance)
Total salary: $505,693
- Eastern Health president and CEO
$340,000 (base salary)
10,000 (car allowance)
$35,000 (housing)
Total salary: $385,000
- Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corp. chairman and CEO
Total salary: $148,642
(No performance salary or allowances are paid)
- Newfoundland and Labrador Liquor Corp. president and CEO
Total salary: $206,736
(No performance salary or allowances are paid)
- Emera Inc. president and CEO
$649,038 (base salary)
$693,750 (incentive plan)
Total salary: $1.34 million
- Toronto Hydro Corp. president and CEO
$740,989 (base salary)
$537,078 (incentives)
Total salary: $1,278,067*
* Salary was received by two men following a retirement
Source: Eastern Health, NLHC, annual reports, NLC

Organizations: Newfoundland and Labrador Housing, NLC, The Telegram Emera Inc. Newfoundland and Labrador Liquor NB Power Toronto Hydro Manitoba Hydro Nova Scotia Power and Bangor Hydro Electric Co. Brunswick Pipeline

Geographic location: Eastern Health, Newfoundland and Labrador, Toronto New Brunswick Nova Scotia

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  • Anonymous
    October 15, 2012 - 20:07

    Bus drivers in long harbour make more money then most of these people. Time to quit school and get a trade, bys

  • Micky
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    These over-inflated egotists demand this money because it means that those who hire them can justify their own greedieness. Nobody is worth those obscene salaries. Look at the bunch of thieves running the auto industry almost into oblivion with the taxpayers having to bail them out and they continue to rake in millions personally. They should be in jail with the crooks in the financial industry who are put away for life. It's time for a reality check alright, for those who get sucked in to paying these disgustingly high salaries and other perks.

  • AR
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Len Simms makes $149,000 a year as Chair and CEO of NLHC ? The former politician Len Simms ? He's still on the go ? Some old politicians don't fade away, they just keep rollin' along and , oh how the money rolls in on top of that gold plated gov't. pension. As good as havin' a seat in the Senate. It can't get any better than this, eh ?

  • R
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    I don't agree that we have to pay big salaries to get quality people. A guy making $5M a year can screw up just as easily as one making 50,000. Most times he makes decisions based on info from his staff. We'll hear about his good decisions but not the bad ones. How many times do we see people put in positions that they know little about but get the big salary. The supporting staff are the ones with the knowledge.

  • member of the 20%
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    All of these Clown Corporation plumb executive jobs are political appointments and paybacks for years of cheek-kissing and blind faith support. Typical Tory patronage and old style porkbarrelling alive and well in good old Newfie.

  • the butler did it
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Bones, i don't thnk you are that stupid that you can't figure out the ad NAPE is running. NAPE is not the employer they represent the support workers who have been on strike for the last 25 weeks. Less then 20K can get them back to work along with the people they support, the people with some form of disibility. If you use your logic, NAPE should pay the wages for all the employees that they represent. Why would you put these people down when all they are looking for works out to around 12 bucks an hour in pay. I would think a lot less that you make. Smarten up!

  • capitalist
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Before all the bitching and moaning starts, these salaries are not that big. Yes, larger than average but to complete with the private sector you have to pay this money to attract quality people. The average person does not like this, but it is reality. There are a lot of Newfoundlanders making a lot more than this outside of the province. Why? Because they go where the money is and people reward performance instead of demonizing it. In fact, I would have thought Ed Martin would have been paid more.

  • Polly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    NAPE is running an ad on CBC which states that for $17,500 per year and $22.00 per person per week , their strikers could return to work . 24 weeks out and nothing from this government .

  • Happy Gilmour
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Frustrated Newf, do you realize how much more money Mr. Martin could be making in the private sector? He took a massive pay cut to take this job.

    Somebody who knows something about the business. Have you even looked at his background?? He has been in the industry his whole life?

    Furthermore he has no ties to Danny Williams?? Where did you haul that from??

    Please research your statements before you post them!

  • Kevin
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Bones bye I wouldnt really expect you to see anything. Its hard to get a clear picture when your so far up Dannys backside like you appear to be. I hope he pays you well for all the long hours you spend here defending him. Not really sure what it is actually. Is it defending him or trying to convince yourself? Oh well in your warped little mind we all knjow by now that Danny is perfect and better than Lorraine and Yvonne. Therefore Danny is God.

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Polly, I'll be honest....I do not understand that ad at all. Is NAPE, and their apparently sadly misguided citizen in the ad, saying that the provincial government should just pay out money to people becasue it's so 'cheap' to do so?

    That isn't a job...it's welfare. And there is already an entire system for that.

  • Kevin
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Just a few more prime examples of how Danny Williams rewards his friends. Why are we so surprised about any of that. The corruption never ends, but apparently many of you have no problem with any of that. Oh well drink up whatever the cool-aid is this month.

  • Frustrated Newf
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Mr. Martin a Bargain??

    As an engineer I'm insulted. Probably should have hired somebody who knows something about the business as CEO.

    Nalcor could be something really good if they hired competent management, but I guess being a 'Purchasing/contractsguy' makes you a subject-matter expert.

    and if anyone chimes in, can you do a better job. The answer is a resounding yes. There are a lot of talented Newfoundlanders on the mainland who would kill for that job. Unfortunately, it is a Danny's buddy position.....

  • Just
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Government propagandists love to preach that we have to offer large performance bonuses and incentives in order to attract the best possible candidates to fill these positions. If this is the case, why is the public not informed about who is competing for these positions and shown the backgrounds of all candidcates so that we can see just how suited to the job these candidates are BEFORE they are chosen? Is it because of political patronage? Cronyism? Greed? Why is so much covered up and kept secret where public money is involved? Is it correct to apply the Protection of Personal Information Act where the public purse is involved? NB Power appears to be contradicting section 3.4 (g) of it's own privacy act. Can anyone tell me otherwise? Here is what it states:(3.4Consent is not required when a public body collects, uses or discloses personal information (g) for some other substantial reason in the public interest)

  • DB
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Polly what does your statement have top do with this story is there some mention of NAPE that I missed.

  • Old Salt
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Hey, hold the bickering for just a moment. Big salaries are a fact of life and your complaints just fall on deaf ears so to speak. Money is NEVER wasted. The down side of big salaries is when it's hoarded and not spent. When it's spent, it goes out and circles through the incomes of ordinary people in return for goods and services. It's back out to gov. coffers so that we can pay them AGAIN. And so the circulation continues. We all benefit from that circulatory process. Further to that just remember that big money in the hands of one person keeps inflation down (limited demand) and it is also why Lotteries pay millions to one prize rather than many prizes. There, that's your lesson in Economics 100, now go learn toleration.

  • the butler did it
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Bones...aploogy accepted. This lady in the ad is not a victim, she is concered for her son and see the results on him because of the strike. She want both sides, NAPE and the employer to reach what she feels is a fair deal. The amount of money is question is small, government wastes this amount on lunches and foolisness. The reason that are not paid more is the same reason home care workers, day care workers and similar jobs pay low, we don't put a value on them. I feel the ads are effective if it raised the problem in the public eyes and has people like you and I discussing it. It is a real shame that they are caught in the middle. Go and meet these people, it tear your heart out to see the look on their face and to know the result fo being off work for 25 weeks.
    They just want to contribute. Bone's you seem like a smart, well thought out person who like to debate, this should not be a topic for such. Keep with people who can defend themselves. Thanks.

  • Methane flys
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    So, if our elected officials, who's suppose to be handling the provinces or nations money, craps in their clothes then we, as taxpayers, aren't allowed to ask who tihs themselves. Don't settle with me very well. But then, Im not paid to be silent. Maybe we'll get some real leaders up there one day. They should only get paid when they do something!

  • Bones
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Butler: Apologies, I mean no disrespect to those workers and I agree, they do deserve more money by a long shot. I'm just tired of seeing huge organizations waste money on media campaigns that use the people they claim to care about the most as weapons in that campaign. Those people are victims, not weapons. The paltry sum of money in question here makes it even more disturbing. Money never makes any of these problems go away, and I'll bet that the NAPE president is already readying her arsenal for the next round, with the classic, victim-as-weapons approach. There's a reason these people aren't paid more, what is it? THAT'S what should be publicly addressed. This kind of money should be EASY to address. I don't think NAPE should pay it's own members, that's silly, but it's hard to ignore an 'investment' in what I would consider non-effective vs. and 'investment' in their own membership, that obviously pays in spades. After all, NAPE makes lots of money off them, it seems a sensible investment by NAPE to keep them working, doesn't it? Hows that for a spin? lol

  • RUBBERBOOT
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Martin must be the least paid ENERGY CORP. CEO in the country. NL is leading the way in energy development, so do ya think we might be getting a bargain, for once?

    If some mainlander held the position, for say 2x the salary, you'd all be singing his/her praises.

    Hard bunch to keep happy aren't ya??

    Wake up!

  • John Smith
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Looks like Mr. Martin is a bargain when you look at the millions the other CEOs are hauling in.

  • Bones
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Kevin: What are the prime examples you mentioned? I reread the article and I don't see examples of rewards to friends. I see compensation packages for professionals. Is there a particular package you disagree with?

    Polly: I've seen that commercial, and while I think it's completely unrelated to the article, I can't help but offer my first impression when I saw it. It's a little difficult to get the gist of what the message is, but what I understood it that this lady's son is a worker who requires support staff to do his duties on the job. Nape should pay them, it sounds cheap. They probably earn that much money in interest off their members' annual union dues. For once, I'd LOVE to see a union work for its members instead of beg for its members. I'd LOVE to see a union with enough integrity to not misinform a senior and put her on the public airways to beg for the members either. I'd LOVE to see a union NOT use the people they claim to care about the most as weapons while they beg. How much do you think that commercial cost? What about the airtime? Prime time slots are very expensive, maybe even expensive enough to cover the tab this woman has been tricked into begging is for. That commercial runs an awful lot, it can't be cheap......Maybe a crack-shot reporter from the Telegram could write a story on its cost?

  • Dave
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    What Vicky gets almost $400,000 and Ed only gets $120,000 more than her.Is Vicky aware that the bulk of her employees only make 10-15% of her income and they do 90-95% of the work.Oh my that is the justice of the system.I heard Jerome state that we have a little over one thousand doctors and that per capita we have the most,duh Jerome think of our geography before making those kind of statments.We also have the most gas stations per capita for the same reason.Our geography is unique,although most of our population is located on the Avalon we still have people dispersed throughout the province,that is until our leaders manage to get them all in central locations.Does the word resettlement mean anything to anyone.Everyone should get a mandatory two terms in the house so that we too can get the golden pension or be appointed to Nalcor for a term of one year,for me that would be equalivant to ten years work

  • Nasty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Face facts, not a single person requires this amount to live. People have far too high expectations in reference to renumeration. For those in the public sector, they need to give their collective heads a shake and return to reality. They are paid by the taxpayers. Time to step up and take back what we are paying these people.

  • For What
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    It's expensive to keep a country running when you have to pay for gov. mismanagement and excess. It's a reality though. If you live beyond your means and are less than honest. It comes back to bite you. Our governments both federal and provincial have done that. Now the innocents have to suffer. Gov. cut backs that are adding to record unemployment, examples this week include military cutbacks, No crown corp senior management pay reductions though. Now they are panic stricken, so they have dispatched there toxic virus.. CRA! A mandate to collect has been issued. No one is immune. CRA employees all over the country will be answering the call in the interest of saving their own hides. They will cow down to the order and infect themselves on hardworking taxpayers. No stone will be left unturned.

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Apathy is the key to excessive public pay.

    When you steal from everyone, you upset no one. No one loses much personally, so no one bothers to oppose it....but it certainly adds up.

    Welcome to Canada, where every public office is a cash machine.

  • Off the Cuff
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    I found it interesting that Mr. Martin was paid for unused vacation, being a former employee of NALCOR to receive my vacation entitlement I lost 30% of the entitlement in legal cost. I would assume Mr. Martin did not need legal support to receive his entitlement?

  • Bones
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Kelvin: - not a typo - lol, wrong again, but not surprising. You only feed your own misinformation to suggest I am, even remotely, connected to government. I've said here many times that my employment, and by direct association, my income, comes from the private sector. Yet another fact you'd rather ignore. I see your reply lacked the examples I asked about, among other things? Read above, you said Danny was God, not me. lol Now, how about those examples of Danny rewarding his friends? What about the corruption? Oh yeah...say Hi to Graham for me, lol.

  • JIM
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Frustrated Newf. That's a typical engineer comment thinking you can do any job in the world. Since when did engineering school teach business management.

    And what business are you talking about that Ed Martin doesn't know anything about? Doesn't he have 25 years of experience in the energy industry?

    And what in the world is a 'Purchasing/contractsguy?' And I guess you know who all of Danny's friends are as well. How do you know Danny and Ed are even friends? You seem to think you know alot. Ingoramus

    Wake up man and do your research before writing ignorant comments. Glad you are in Calgary. Stay there with the rest of the cowboys. Don't begrudge others because you aren't skilled enough to have a job in our province and had to run to a place that would hire my left foot.

  • kevin
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Are Martins creditentials that good that he is paid such a salary? The head of Eastern Health should be a Newfoundlander and not some come from away!
    Many of us slave thousands of miles from home and contribute more to our provinces economy that many who live here and we get ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the way of a tax break from our own government except screwed big time, when others are basking in the big time?
    I wonder what Martin does all day in his swanky office to deserve such salary ?

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Mark this down....in the history of Crown Corporations involved in private sector business, NALCOR will wind up being the most expensive, ineffective boondoggle of them all. Ever.

    Get ready for it...the only thing that will make it hurt less is not to think about what good the money could have done.

  • Micky
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    These over-inflated egotists demand this money because it means that those who hire them can justify their own greedieness. Nobody is worth those obscene salaries. Look at the bunch of thieves running the auto industry almost into oblivion with the taxpayers having to bail them out and they continue to rake in millions personally. They should be in jail with the crooks in the financial industry who are put away for life. It's time for a reality check alright, for those who get sucked in to paying these disgustingly high salaries and other perks.

  • AR
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Len Simms makes $149,000 a year as Chair and CEO of NLHC ? The former politician Len Simms ? He's still on the go ? Some old politicians don't fade away, they just keep rollin' along and , oh how the money rolls in on top of that gold plated gov't. pension. As good as havin' a seat in the Senate. It can't get any better than this, eh ?

  • R
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    I don't agree that we have to pay big salaries to get quality people. A guy making $5M a year can screw up just as easily as one making 50,000. Most times he makes decisions based on info from his staff. We'll hear about his good decisions but not the bad ones. How many times do we see people put in positions that they know little about but get the big salary. The supporting staff are the ones with the knowledge.

  • member of the 20%
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    All of these Clown Corporation plumb executive jobs are political appointments and paybacks for years of cheek-kissing and blind faith support. Typical Tory patronage and old style porkbarrelling alive and well in good old Newfie.

  • the butler did it
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    Bones, i don't thnk you are that stupid that you can't figure out the ad NAPE is running. NAPE is not the employer they represent the support workers who have been on strike for the last 25 weeks. Less then 20K can get them back to work along with the people they support, the people with some form of disibility. If you use your logic, NAPE should pay the wages for all the employees that they represent. Why would you put these people down when all they are looking for works out to around 12 bucks an hour in pay. I would think a lot less that you make. Smarten up!

  • capitalist
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    Before all the bitching and moaning starts, these salaries are not that big. Yes, larger than average but to complete with the private sector you have to pay this money to attract quality people. The average person does not like this, but it is reality. There are a lot of Newfoundlanders making a lot more than this outside of the province. Why? Because they go where the money is and people reward performance instead of demonizing it. In fact, I would have thought Ed Martin would have been paid more.

  • Polly
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    NAPE is running an ad on CBC which states that for $17,500 per year and $22.00 per person per week , their strikers could return to work . 24 weeks out and nothing from this government .

  • Happy Gilmour
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    Frustrated Newf, do you realize how much more money Mr. Martin could be making in the private sector? He took a massive pay cut to take this job.

    Somebody who knows something about the business. Have you even looked at his background?? He has been in the industry his whole life?

    Furthermore he has no ties to Danny Williams?? Where did you haul that from??

    Please research your statements before you post them!

  • Kevin
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    Bones bye I wouldnt really expect you to see anything. Its hard to get a clear picture when your so far up Dannys backside like you appear to be. I hope he pays you well for all the long hours you spend here defending him. Not really sure what it is actually. Is it defending him or trying to convince yourself? Oh well in your warped little mind we all knjow by now that Danny is perfect and better than Lorraine and Yvonne. Therefore Danny is God.

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    Polly, I'll be honest....I do not understand that ad at all. Is NAPE, and their apparently sadly misguided citizen in the ad, saying that the provincial government should just pay out money to people becasue it's so 'cheap' to do so?

    That isn't a job...it's welfare. And there is already an entire system for that.

  • Kevin
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    Just a few more prime examples of how Danny Williams rewards his friends. Why are we so surprised about any of that. The corruption never ends, but apparently many of you have no problem with any of that. Oh well drink up whatever the cool-aid is this month.

  • Frustrated Newf
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    Mr. Martin a Bargain??

    As an engineer I'm insulted. Probably should have hired somebody who knows something about the business as CEO.

    Nalcor could be something really good if they hired competent management, but I guess being a 'Purchasing/contractsguy' makes you a subject-matter expert.

    and if anyone chimes in, can you do a better job. The answer is a resounding yes. There are a lot of talented Newfoundlanders on the mainland who would kill for that job. Unfortunately, it is a Danny's buddy position.....

  • Just
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    Government propagandists love to preach that we have to offer large performance bonuses and incentives in order to attract the best possible candidates to fill these positions. If this is the case, why is the public not informed about who is competing for these positions and shown the backgrounds of all candidcates so that we can see just how suited to the job these candidates are BEFORE they are chosen? Is it because of political patronage? Cronyism? Greed? Why is so much covered up and kept secret where public money is involved? Is it correct to apply the Protection of Personal Information Act where the public purse is involved? NB Power appears to be contradicting section 3.4 (g) of it's own privacy act. Can anyone tell me otherwise? Here is what it states:(3.4Consent is not required when a public body collects, uses or discloses personal information (g) for some other substantial reason in the public interest)

  • DB
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    Polly what does your statement have top do with this story is there some mention of NAPE that I missed.

  • Old Salt
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Hey, hold the bickering for just a moment. Big salaries are a fact of life and your complaints just fall on deaf ears so to speak. Money is NEVER wasted. The down side of big salaries is when it's hoarded and not spent. When it's spent, it goes out and circles through the incomes of ordinary people in return for goods and services. It's back out to gov. coffers so that we can pay them AGAIN. And so the circulation continues. We all benefit from that circulatory process. Further to that just remember that big money in the hands of one person keeps inflation down (limited demand) and it is also why Lotteries pay millions to one prize rather than many prizes. There, that's your lesson in Economics 100, now go learn toleration.

  • the butler did it
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Bones...aploogy accepted. This lady in the ad is not a victim, she is concered for her son and see the results on him because of the strike. She want both sides, NAPE and the employer to reach what she feels is a fair deal. The amount of money is question is small, government wastes this amount on lunches and foolisness. The reason that are not paid more is the same reason home care workers, day care workers and similar jobs pay low, we don't put a value on them. I feel the ads are effective if it raised the problem in the public eyes and has people like you and I discussing it. It is a real shame that they are caught in the middle. Go and meet these people, it tear your heart out to see the look on their face and to know the result fo being off work for 25 weeks.
    They just want to contribute. Bone's you seem like a smart, well thought out person who like to debate, this should not be a topic for such. Keep with people who can defend themselves. Thanks.

  • Methane flys
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    So, if our elected officials, who's suppose to be handling the provinces or nations money, craps in their clothes then we, as taxpayers, aren't allowed to ask who tihs themselves. Don't settle with me very well. But then, Im not paid to be silent. Maybe we'll get some real leaders up there one day. They should only get paid when they do something!

  • Bones
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Butler: Apologies, I mean no disrespect to those workers and I agree, they do deserve more money by a long shot. I'm just tired of seeing huge organizations waste money on media campaigns that use the people they claim to care about the most as weapons in that campaign. Those people are victims, not weapons. The paltry sum of money in question here makes it even more disturbing. Money never makes any of these problems go away, and I'll bet that the NAPE president is already readying her arsenal for the next round, with the classic, victim-as-weapons approach. There's a reason these people aren't paid more, what is it? THAT'S what should be publicly addressed. This kind of money should be EASY to address. I don't think NAPE should pay it's own members, that's silly, but it's hard to ignore an 'investment' in what I would consider non-effective vs. and 'investment' in their own membership, that obviously pays in spades. After all, NAPE makes lots of money off them, it seems a sensible investment by NAPE to keep them working, doesn't it? Hows that for a spin? lol

  • RUBBERBOOT
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Martin must be the least paid ENERGY CORP. CEO in the country. NL is leading the way in energy development, so do ya think we might be getting a bargain, for once?

    If some mainlander held the position, for say 2x the salary, you'd all be singing his/her praises.

    Hard bunch to keep happy aren't ya??

    Wake up!

  • John Smith
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Looks like Mr. Martin is a bargain when you look at the millions the other CEOs are hauling in.

  • Bones
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Kevin: What are the prime examples you mentioned? I reread the article and I don't see examples of rewards to friends. I see compensation packages for professionals. Is there a particular package you disagree with?

    Polly: I've seen that commercial, and while I think it's completely unrelated to the article, I can't help but offer my first impression when I saw it. It's a little difficult to get the gist of what the message is, but what I understood it that this lady's son is a worker who requires support staff to do his duties on the job. Nape should pay them, it sounds cheap. They probably earn that much money in interest off their members' annual union dues. For once, I'd LOVE to see a union work for its members instead of beg for its members. I'd LOVE to see a union with enough integrity to not misinform a senior and put her on the public airways to beg for the members either. I'd LOVE to see a union NOT use the people they claim to care about the most as weapons while they beg. How much do you think that commercial cost? What about the airtime? Prime time slots are very expensive, maybe even expensive enough to cover the tab this woman has been tricked into begging is for. That commercial runs an awful lot, it can't be cheap......Maybe a crack-shot reporter from the Telegram could write a story on its cost?

  • Dave
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    What Vicky gets almost $400,000 and Ed only gets $120,000 more than her.Is Vicky aware that the bulk of her employees only make 10-15% of her income and they do 90-95% of the work.Oh my that is the justice of the system.I heard Jerome state that we have a little over one thousand doctors and that per capita we have the most,duh Jerome think of our geography before making those kind of statments.We also have the most gas stations per capita for the same reason.Our geography is unique,although most of our population is located on the Avalon we still have people dispersed throughout the province,that is until our leaders manage to get them all in central locations.Does the word resettlement mean anything to anyone.Everyone should get a mandatory two terms in the house so that we too can get the golden pension or be appointed to Nalcor for a term of one year,for me that would be equalivant to ten years work

  • Nasty
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    Face facts, not a single person requires this amount to live. People have far too high expectations in reference to renumeration. For those in the public sector, they need to give their collective heads a shake and return to reality. They are paid by the taxpayers. Time to step up and take back what we are paying these people.

  • For What
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    It's expensive to keep a country running when you have to pay for gov. mismanagement and excess. It's a reality though. If you live beyond your means and are less than honest. It comes back to bite you. Our governments both federal and provincial have done that. Now the innocents have to suffer. Gov. cut backs that are adding to record unemployment, examples this week include military cutbacks, No crown corp senior management pay reductions though. Now they are panic stricken, so they have dispatched there toxic virus.. CRA! A mandate to collect has been issued. No one is immune. CRA employees all over the country will be answering the call in the interest of saving their own hides. They will cow down to the order and infect themselves on hardworking taxpayers. No stone will be left unturned.

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    Apathy is the key to excessive public pay.

    When you steal from everyone, you upset no one. No one loses much personally, so no one bothers to oppose it....but it certainly adds up.

    Welcome to Canada, where every public office is a cash machine.

  • Off the Cuff
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    I found it interesting that Mr. Martin was paid for unused vacation, being a former employee of NALCOR to receive my vacation entitlement I lost 30% of the entitlement in legal cost. I would assume Mr. Martin did not need legal support to receive his entitlement?

  • Bones
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Kelvin: - not a typo - lol, wrong again, but not surprising. You only feed your own misinformation to suggest I am, even remotely, connected to government. I've said here many times that my employment, and by direct association, my income, comes from the private sector. Yet another fact you'd rather ignore. I see your reply lacked the examples I asked about, among other things? Read above, you said Danny was God, not me. lol Now, how about those examples of Danny rewarding his friends? What about the corruption? Oh yeah...say Hi to Graham for me, lol.

  • JIM
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Frustrated Newf. That's a typical engineer comment thinking you can do any job in the world. Since when did engineering school teach business management.

    And what business are you talking about that Ed Martin doesn't know anything about? Doesn't he have 25 years of experience in the energy industry?

    And what in the world is a 'Purchasing/contractsguy?' And I guess you know who all of Danny's friends are as well. How do you know Danny and Ed are even friends? You seem to think you know alot. Ingoramus

    Wake up man and do your research before writing ignorant comments. Glad you are in Calgary. Stay there with the rest of the cowboys. Don't begrudge others because you aren't skilled enough to have a job in our province and had to run to a place that would hire my left foot.

  • kevin
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Are Martins creditentials that good that he is paid such a salary? The head of Eastern Health should be a Newfoundlander and not some come from away!
    Many of us slave thousands of miles from home and contribute more to our provinces economy that many who live here and we get ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the way of a tax break from our own government except screwed big time, when others are basking in the big time?
    I wonder what Martin does all day in his swanky office to deserve such salary ?

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Mark this down....in the history of Crown Corporations involved in private sector business, NALCOR will wind up being the most expensive, ineffective boondoggle of them all. Ever.

    Get ready for it...the only thing that will make it hurt less is not to think about what good the money could have done.