Contraband cigarettes at Confederation building: study

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Recent research indicates some illegal activity going on at Confederation Building and it has nothing this time to do with MHA spending allowances.
The Atlantic Convenience Stores Association (ACSA) hired an independent Montreal-based company to conduct cigarette butt studies in 43 locations in the Atlantic region. The findings showed the level of contraband tobacco being smoked on the grounds of Confederation Building were the highest in the Atlantic region.
Almost 50 per cent of butts collected and tested from a smoker's compound for government employees outside Confederation Building tested positive for being contraband.
A minimum sample of 150 butts were collected at each of four sites in St. John's.
The contraband results were:
- 46.3 per cent at Confederation Building
- 27.2 per cent at Memorial University
- 19.2 per cent at the Health Sciences Centre
- And only 7.4 per cent on the popular bar strip on George Street.

Full story in Friday's print edition.

Organizations: Confederation Building, Atlantic Convenience Stores Association, Health Sciences Centre

Geographic location: Atlantic, St. John's, George Street

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  • Eli
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Thousands of Newfoundlanders go out of the province/country for vacation and buy duty-free weeds which are quite legit.
    I'm more interested in how those butts were found in no-smoking areas. Perhaps like the 10-item Express Lanes some people just can't read, or pretend they can't.

  • Robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    How slimy can you get? Living off tax dollars and stealing from the same taxpayers who are paying their salary. This, after being handed a 20%+ increase. To add insult to injury, the same scum bags will be using our health care resources when their habit results in disease. To say that I'm totally disgusted would be an understatement.

  • Sandra
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    I have to agree with Gary, I'm a government worker and I can tell you I pay my share of taxes, a lot of workers in the building don't smoke so don't have everyone tared with the same brush. Most people who comment on this site have no idea what it's like to work, they can't even spell the word
    W O R K !!!

  • RB
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Personally, I don't have a problem with it. The bottom line is: when you raise the taxes on cigarrettes as a means to pay for everyone's illegitimate babies and health care, making it fianancially difficult for people to enjoy this leisure, then you open the gates for contraband which will well be taken advantage of by those most in a position to do so. I suggest dropping the taxes on cigarettes and instead go after over-eaters, porno lovers and drunks. Leave smokers alone.

  • Civil Servant
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Disgusting to say the least, but I'm a non-smoking civil servant and don't appreciate being tarred with the same brush as those that are smoking @ the Conf. Bldg, Mun, HSC or wherever. Some people have too much free time on their hands, and I pay my taxes just like everyone else, but my taxes also pay for the likes of those out there who don't work and sit on their fannies all day, smoking and using FB and making useless comments on such stories as this.

  • tim
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    to fix the corruption there is only one remedy and that is to change the gov. dont give one vote to any person who is presently a member.
    i have never heard of so much scandal, questionable behaviour, blaming others and gouging taxpayers.

  • Brendan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Psssssst. Not too loud, but where can I buy some of that good baccy?????????? lol

  • Blair
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    I think Yvonne Jones should be reprimanded for this...clearly they are all Liberal cigs,

  • Calvin
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    RB McGrath, seriously, you dont watch porn? Give me a break.

  • Peter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    This has to be one of the funniest stories I have ever heard. Imagine, who would have come up with the idea of collecting cig butts at Confederation Building. Was the person incognito...skulking around wearing a long raincoat....slyly picking up the butts from the ground....where is security when you need them. by the way...wasn't there a condom count done down at the bubble in St. John's harbour....just checking for illegal condoms...lmao...

  • Frank M
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Do as I say, not as I do.

    Same phrase applies to MP's and their constituency allowances not being audited by the AG.

  • retired
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    How are the butts tested? Is the tobacco from legal cigarettes the same composition as illegal butts? Are roll-your-own considered in this testing, which may or may NOT have markings on the filter casings. Food for thought - I mean look beyond the smoke.

    P.S. Telegram Readers commenting on these issues could possibly work shifts, be on vacation in the sunny South, or have their 30-40 years of work punched in.

  • Uncivil Zombie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Civil Servant from St. John's, NL who tarred you ? The article states, '...contraband tobacco being smoked on the grounds of Confederation Building...' What was it you said ? Now, with all your free time making useless comments on stories such as these, you can switch to FB to kill the rest of the afternoon.

  • Quid I
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Robert, you are a sanctimonious twit.
    This story offends me (a smoking government worker) on several levels.
    Let's forget for a moment that this (grossly unscientific) study was carried out only to support the convenience store owners who peddle this form of death.
    As for my impending burden on your health care system, do the math...I and thousands of other smokers like me have already paid for our health care (through cig taxes) in advance -- far more than your whiny butt (pardon the pun) ever will. In fact, I'll likely have contributed more to your burden on the same health care system than you have (whatever you choose to die from). Please shut up now-- you know not of what you speak!
    Now if you'll excuse me, my union smoke break is over.

  • Barney
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    LOl too funny but people who work there are no different than the people who work at the mall. they are taxpayers just like you & I. people have this thing about individuals who work for the gov't - they think they are paying their salaries but if that's the case then all these people are self employed too - they pay their own salaries. Don't foget that they had a wage freeze for years and years and that 20% was well deserved. It's probably an avg of .05% over all the years of cut backs. How easily everyone forgets! So, someone who works at the confed bldg is just trying to make a living like everyone else and I suppose buying contraband products just like everyone else who buys it - place of employment doesn't matter.

  • Jason
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    I tinks they got the butts mixed up while transporting them to the lab where the study took place! These were really the butts from George Street!

  • jared
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    i know nothing about how the study was done so take this comment with a grain of salt, but it could easily have been _one guy_ who smokes illegal cigs hitting the same smoking grounds 2-3x a day.

    a little more reasonable than the idea of the entire cabinet of ministers out smoking hooch cigs while twirling their moustaches and discussing the latest plot to rip off the everyman.

  • Gary
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Robert: Government workers are ordinary people and pay taxes like the rest of us. The majority of these workers have no say in what are taxes are set at.

    If most of the people that commented on these stories actually had jobs and paid taxes we would all be much better off! But if you want to believe that that each government employee has power to set our taxes and benefit from the money then your living in a a fantasy world.

    And you wonder why Newfoundlanders get such a bad name?

  • Nicole
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Isn't it ironic that we spend taxpayer money to do a study to find out how many butts are in Newfoundland that don't belong here??

  • Robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    I don't see any posts here tarring all government workers with the same brush. Any employee of the government who illegally doges paying taxes is scum - period. They are not like everyone else as other posters have stated, they are receiving their livlihood because people pay taxes. They are no better than welfare cheats, people claiming unemloyment while working under the table or those that have been caught cheating on their taxes. The behaviour cannot be justified. Government could easily get rid of 20% of the civil service that can be replaced by computers. You'll never have to worry about giving a computer a pension, a salary, or sick time. That would be efficient though, but as an ADM level manager in government told me once 'we're not interested in efficiency'. Enjoy the cheap smokes, tax cheats and your supporters, but don't expect any support from the public when the cutbacks come and come they will; this oil money will not last forever.

  • Jack
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    A bit of humor this morning all so a good reason to stop smoking on the grounds just like at health care

  • Peter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the confederation Building a designated 'NO SMOKING' area along with the Health Science Centre...why would they even think of picking up butts there???

  • Michael
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Just goes to show that gov't workers know a good deal!

  • Marie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    I don't smoke at all and never did but I have a question about the report. How do they know that they are Government employees and not visitors to Confederation Building?

  • Eli
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Thousands of Newfoundlanders go out of the province/country for vacation and buy duty-free weeds which are quite legit.
    I'm more interested in how those butts were found in no-smoking areas. Perhaps like the 10-item Express Lanes some people just can't read, or pretend they can't.

  • Robert
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    How slimy can you get? Living off tax dollars and stealing from the same taxpayers who are paying their salary. This, after being handed a 20%+ increase. To add insult to injury, the same scum bags will be using our health care resources when their habit results in disease. To say that I'm totally disgusted would be an understatement.

  • Sandra
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    I have to agree with Gary, I'm a government worker and I can tell you I pay my share of taxes, a lot of workers in the building don't smoke so don't have everyone tared with the same brush. Most people who comment on this site have no idea what it's like to work, they can't even spell the word
    W O R K !!!

  • RB
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Personally, I don't have a problem with it. The bottom line is: when you raise the taxes on cigarrettes as a means to pay for everyone's illegitimate babies and health care, making it fianancially difficult for people to enjoy this leisure, then you open the gates for contraband which will well be taken advantage of by those most in a position to do so. I suggest dropping the taxes on cigarettes and instead go after over-eaters, porno lovers and drunks. Leave smokers alone.

  • Civil Servant
    July 01, 2010 - 20:14

    Disgusting to say the least, but I'm a non-smoking civil servant and don't appreciate being tarred with the same brush as those that are smoking @ the Conf. Bldg, Mun, HSC or wherever. Some people have too much free time on their hands, and I pay my taxes just like everyone else, but my taxes also pay for the likes of those out there who don't work and sit on their fannies all day, smoking and using FB and making useless comments on such stories as this.

  • tim
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    to fix the corruption there is only one remedy and that is to change the gov. dont give one vote to any person who is presently a member.
    i have never heard of so much scandal, questionable behaviour, blaming others and gouging taxpayers.

  • Brendan
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    Psssssst. Not too loud, but where can I buy some of that good baccy?????????? lol

  • Blair
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    I think Yvonne Jones should be reprimanded for this...clearly they are all Liberal cigs,

  • Calvin
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    RB McGrath, seriously, you dont watch porn? Give me a break.

  • Peter
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    This has to be one of the funniest stories I have ever heard. Imagine, who would have come up with the idea of collecting cig butts at Confederation Building. Was the person incognito...skulking around wearing a long raincoat....slyly picking up the butts from the ground....where is security when you need them. by the way...wasn't there a condom count done down at the bubble in St. John's harbour....just checking for illegal condoms...lmao...

  • Frank M
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Do as I say, not as I do.

    Same phrase applies to MP's and their constituency allowances not being audited by the AG.

  • retired
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    How are the butts tested? Is the tobacco from legal cigarettes the same composition as illegal butts? Are roll-your-own considered in this testing, which may or may NOT have markings on the filter casings. Food for thought - I mean look beyond the smoke.

    P.S. Telegram Readers commenting on these issues could possibly work shifts, be on vacation in the sunny South, or have their 30-40 years of work punched in.

  • Uncivil Zombie
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    Civil Servant from St. John's, NL who tarred you ? The article states, '...contraband tobacco being smoked on the grounds of Confederation Building...' What was it you said ? Now, with all your free time making useless comments on stories such as these, you can switch to FB to kill the rest of the afternoon.

  • Quid I
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    Robert, you are a sanctimonious twit.
    This story offends me (a smoking government worker) on several levels.
    Let's forget for a moment that this (grossly unscientific) study was carried out only to support the convenience store owners who peddle this form of death.
    As for my impending burden on your health care system, do the math...I and thousands of other smokers like me have already paid for our health care (through cig taxes) in advance -- far more than your whiny butt (pardon the pun) ever will. In fact, I'll likely have contributed more to your burden on the same health care system than you have (whatever you choose to die from). Please shut up now-- you know not of what you speak!
    Now if you'll excuse me, my union smoke break is over.

  • Barney
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    LOl too funny but people who work there are no different than the people who work at the mall. they are taxpayers just like you & I. people have this thing about individuals who work for the gov't - they think they are paying their salaries but if that's the case then all these people are self employed too - they pay their own salaries. Don't foget that they had a wage freeze for years and years and that 20% was well deserved. It's probably an avg of .05% over all the years of cut backs. How easily everyone forgets! So, someone who works at the confed bldg is just trying to make a living like everyone else and I suppose buying contraband products just like everyone else who buys it - place of employment doesn't matter.

  • Jason
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    I tinks they got the butts mixed up while transporting them to the lab where the study took place! These were really the butts from George Street!

  • jared
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    i know nothing about how the study was done so take this comment with a grain of salt, but it could easily have been _one guy_ who smokes illegal cigs hitting the same smoking grounds 2-3x a day.

    a little more reasonable than the idea of the entire cabinet of ministers out smoking hooch cigs while twirling their moustaches and discussing the latest plot to rip off the everyman.

  • Gary
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Robert: Government workers are ordinary people and pay taxes like the rest of us. The majority of these workers have no say in what are taxes are set at.

    If most of the people that commented on these stories actually had jobs and paid taxes we would all be much better off! But if you want to believe that that each government employee has power to set our taxes and benefit from the money then your living in a a fantasy world.

    And you wonder why Newfoundlanders get such a bad name?

  • Nicole
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    Isn't it ironic that we spend taxpayer money to do a study to find out how many butts are in Newfoundland that don't belong here??

  • Robert
    July 01, 2010 - 19:47

    I don't see any posts here tarring all government workers with the same brush. Any employee of the government who illegally doges paying taxes is scum - period. They are not like everyone else as other posters have stated, they are receiving their livlihood because people pay taxes. They are no better than welfare cheats, people claiming unemloyment while working under the table or those that have been caught cheating on their taxes. The behaviour cannot be justified. Government could easily get rid of 20% of the civil service that can be replaced by computers. You'll never have to worry about giving a computer a pension, a salary, or sick time. That would be efficient though, but as an ADM level manager in government told me once 'we're not interested in efficiency'. Enjoy the cheap smokes, tax cheats and your supporters, but don't expect any support from the public when the cutbacks come and come they will; this oil money will not last forever.

  • Jack
    July 01, 2010 - 19:47

    A bit of humor this morning all so a good reason to stop smoking on the grounds just like at health care

  • Peter
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the confederation Building a designated 'NO SMOKING' area along with the Health Science Centre...why would they even think of picking up butts there???

  • Michael
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    Just goes to show that gov't workers know a good deal!

  • Marie
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    I don't smoke at all and never did but I have a question about the report. How do they know that they are Government employees and not visitors to Confederation Building?