- February 04, 2012 - 09:58
I do not understand why it is necessary to have Muskrat Falls discussed at the spring sitting of the house. As Ches Crosbie points out why not give the PUB the time necessary to complete their task and have the debate in the fall. We do not have to listen to Jerome Kednnedy's fear mongering about having to take a hot brick to bed to keep us warm. These type of statements are totally irresponsible coming from a cabinet minister. As per the Corner Brook economist article in the Telegram it unfortunately looks like the mill will close in Corner Brook. If that does happen we will have enough electricity to keep everyone warm, we can keep the bricks in the shed and we can save $7 billion by shelving the Muskrat Falls project. It is
- James G. Learning
- February 03, 2012 - 21:06
Well what does it matter if the PUB gets the extension it is asking for? The information they will get, will be from Nalcor's incomplete files. Circular and muddy. Time to give it up. That said, Labradoreans will meet you on the ground at Muskrat Falls to stop you. Remember we live here. With all due respect.
- Cyril Rogers
- February 03, 2012 - 19:44
I fully support the idea of attaching your real name to any comment you make. Many people are genuinely concerned about some form of negative reaction or possibly some form of retribution and I find this appalling in a supposedly free society. I believe we all have the right to freely express our opinion but it should be done respectfully and openly. After all, our forebears fought and died for this freedom. The mudslingers abuse their sacrifice! Unfortunately, those who would try to engage in mudslinging tend to hide behind fake names, specifically people like "John Smith". He seems to have a problem knowing fact from opinion and is so one-sided in all of his ramblings that he is clearly a Tory hack. As he likes to say: "Give me a break!" and man up or go away.
- The Lawyers Spoke, It Must Be So
- February 03, 2012 - 17:35
Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows. To trot out a bunch of Lawyers with their QC and LLb designations does nothing to enlighten this process. While Mr. Crosbie's concerns appear to be legit, one can question the ulterior motives of some of the other "usual suspects" that have chosen to bless us with their "prominent" signatures. As Mr. Crosbie stated " I am not an expert on electrical power generation". The days of the public accepting lawyers as self proclaimed experts on everything have passed. So why is it that the expertise of the Gilbert Bennett's and Ed Martin's are summarily dismissed by some members of this list? The process is one thing but I suspect many that have signed here have their minds made up and no amount of expertise will suffice. If this is about lining up prominent lawyers, I can think of a few on the other side, Danny Williams, Jerome Kennedy, Tom Marshall......shall I continue? Its time to move the discussion forward and its time for the other two political parties to formulate a position of their own on MF. You can't sit and watch the tennis game forever, you eventually have to show up to play. The NDP were retweeting this story today ignorant to the fact they were being labeled ineffective. Ironically, many of the old establishment that have shackled us with a huge debt are suddenly concerned about what this might mean for our children. As much as we resent Quebec for the Upper Churchill, I doubt their citizens maligned HQ leadership fifty years ago because it was prepared to implement its vision. NL's shouldn't either.
- February 03, 2012 - 12:54
Breakneck speed? Who's kidding who? This project is progressing at a snails pace. No I'm not harping on the PUB, or on Nalcor. But the idea that this project is travelling at a blistering pace is ridiculous. That being said, just because one part of the project is slower doesn't mean that we should be putting the pressure on other areas of the project to meet an artificial deadline. *BUT* there does need to be some accountability to push each of the segments through or re-baseline the whole project.
- Maurice E. Adams
- February 03, 2012 - 11:21
While it is fine and necessary for the PUB to be given more time to review Muskrat Falls, it is not sufficient. ++++++ You will note (from the PUB's website) that the PUB consultation process requires presentations to be within the scope of the "fix is in", highly restrictive, 2-option, Nalcor pre-determined, Reference Question (also, any public questions not within the scope of the "fix is in" Reference Question will also be given short shrift). +++++ So, I would ask, what is the point, what is the benefit, of even extending the PUB's time --- since the fix will remain in by way of the Reference Question? +++++ Extended time alone (without an unrestricted Reference Question), will only serve to give the 'appearance' of a thorough and reliable review. ++++ We need a PUB review that does not have its hands tied by a government/Nalcor-led, pre-determined strategy that will hoodwink ratepayers (their children and grand children) and tie them to an unneeded, unaffordable, multi-billion dollar corporate make-work project --- one that has been by designed and set up to ensure that NO MATTER WHAT -- Muskrat Falls comes out being shown as the 'least cost option'--- one that will destroy our potential (come 2041) of benefiting from our existing zero cost, fully paid for Upper Churchill asset (and ensure Quebec continues to reap those benefits post- 2041) and enslave NL ratepayers generation after generation many decades into the future. +++++ Unbelievable.
- W.F. Coaker
- February 03, 2012 - 10:30
A.K.A John Smith makes the best case I've seen so far for requiring people who post in this newspaper to use their real names. Is there anyone who doubts that government is using the anonymity of these boards to impugn the integrity of people, like Crosbie, who dare speak out against it. I think these people deserve a lot of credit for having the guts and sense of duty to call on the government to respect its own public accountability process. Our short history as a province, and indeed the era before it became a province, is strewn with examples of social and economic carnage that resulted from bad decision making - disastrous decisions that were imposed by autocratic governments without public scrutiny. By hiding behind fictitious characters, government has a new weopon to quash public opposition without having to take responsibility for its comments. Smith exhorts Crosbie to "crawl back under your rock". How sleazy, disgusting and contemptible can you get. When this despicable character runs out of facts or logic to support his government pals, he resorts to slinging mud. Did I hear somewhere that Dunderdale bemoaned the lack of decorum or non-partisanship in this debate? She and Kennedy need to take a long look in the mirror.
- Jimmy O'Neill
- February 03, 2012 - 09:39
Whassamatter, John? Still bitter about your law school application being rejected? FYI, Shakespear's point was that the lawyers maintained law and order, and the character who uttered the phrase you reference was an anarchist. By getting rid of the lawyers, his goal of anarchy would be attained. You might want to bone up on your Shakespear...
- John Smith
- February 03, 2012 - 07:18
..."command respect"??? Lawyers??? Politically motivated lawyers with axes to burn??? Lawyers who ran in the last election??? Lawyers who were involved in the political machine before most of us were born??? Give me a break, and go crawl back under your rock.Remeber what William Shakespare said in Henry VI part II about lawyers??? He was a smart man.
- Anonymous Lawyer
- February 03, 2012 - 12:34
"The first thing we do," said the character in Shakespeare's Henry VI, is "kill all the lawyers." Contrary to popular belief, the proposal was not designed to restore sanity to commercial life. Rather, it was intended to eliminate those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution -- thus underscoring the important role that lawyers can play in society.