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Keeping the faith? Or have you given up on Canada?



Some Canadian hockey fans (above) were maintaining a thumbs-up attitude even as this country's men's team was losing to the United States in Olympic preliminary-round action Sunday night in Vancouver, but others (below) were left discouraged by the defeat

Some Canadian hockey fans (above) were maintaining a thumbs-up attitude even as this country's men's team was losing to the United States in Olympic preliminary-round action Sunday night in Vancouver, but others (below) were left discouraged by the defeat

Robin Short
Published on Febuary 23rd, 2010
Published on June 30th, 2010
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Telegram Sports Editor

For those who still believe in our gold-medal chances, the first five is for you; ye of little faith might agree with the next five

Five reasons why Canada's men's hockey team will win gold in Vancouver

1. Sidney Crosby

This tournament is filled with very, very good players. But there are only a handful of special players. Crosby is one of those. If Crosby's able to step up his already-impressive game (though he was minus-3 against the Yanks), he can take Canada on his back. If not, the Canadians are doomed.

2. Good old fashioned Canadian hockey

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Five reasons why Canada's men's hockey team will win gold in Vancouver

1. Sidney Crosby

This tournament is filled with very, very good players. But there are only a handful of special players. Crosby is one of those. If Crosby's able to step up his already-impressive game (though he was minus-3 against the Yanks), he can take Canada on his back. If not, the Canadians are doomed.

2. Good old fashioned Canadian hockey

Winning hockey games means more than simply outscoring the other team. It's the little things, like winning faceoffs and getting dirty in the corners and in front of the net. How important is physical play? Well, in the Russia-Czech Republic game on Super Sunday (that went sour for Canadians), Alexander Ovechkin turned the complexion of the game with a thundering hit on Jaromir Jagr. The turnover resulted in a goal for the Russians, and ultimately a win. Against the Americans, the Canadians hit everything in stars and stripes.

3. Hometown support

If it's true flag-waving, jersey-wearing, shout-until-your-hoarse, face-painted believers can be a 'sixth man', the Canadians have a power play through the entire Vancouver Games. The energy within Canada Hockey Place (aka GM Place through the other 50 weeks of the year) is overwhelming. With Canada facing the daunting prospect of having to win four straight games, support for the home boys will be even greater in a city, that outside a Memorial Cup junior title a few years ago, is aching to celebrate a hockey championship.

4. Leadership

While the cynics are predicting disaster, a total of 11 Stanley Cups and four Olympic gold medals sit in the Canadian dressing room, not to mention world championships and world junior titles. Veterans Brodeur, Scott Niedermayer and Chris Pronger have been through it all before. Even the young ones, like Crosby and Ryan Getzlaf and Cory Perry, have their NHL championships. Granted, it's a different pressure the Canadians are feeling in Vancouver, but the point is if anyone can handle it, it's these pros.

5. Isn't Canada supposed to win?

Never mind we squeaked out wins in '72, '76 and '87. Canada usually finds a way to come out on top, right? Of course, that was then and this is now. Back in the day, the Russians and the Czechs and the Swedes normally got going the other way when the going got tough. Now those countries' lineups are all dotted with NHLers. Still, Canada is hockey and hockey is Canada. Or so we hope.

rshort@thetelegram.com

Five reasons why Canada's men's hockey team won't win gold in Vancouver

1. Scoring

This team, with an average annual NHL payroll of $5.79 million (if you don't count Drew Doughty and Jonathan Toews, both on $850,000 entry-level contracts), can't find the back of the net. Rick Nash? He's throwing his big body around, but no goals. Joe Thornton? No goals. All three of Jarome Iginla's tallies came against Norway. In its last two games, Canada has pounded 92 shots on Jonas Hiller (Switzerland) and Ryan Miller (U.S.), and have come away with a grand total of five goals.

2. Goaltending

Didn't we already touch on this subject? You know, about how important a hot goalie is in a short tournament? Hiller and Miller turned in Vezina-esque performances against the Red and White, All or Nothing, home side. Meantime, Martin Brodeur was, well, ordinary. Not good enough here. So Canadian fans must rest fragile hopes with Roberto Luongo, who may be the best goalie to win nothing. On Monday, Canadian head coach Mike Bacock confirmed Luongo will start against Germany tonight and will remain the starter as long as Canada is in what is now a singe-elimination tournament (see story, page C5).

3. Joe Thornton

The NHL's fifth-leading scorer has been held to a mere assist in three games. Perhaps more noteworthy is that big Thornton hasn't established himself as a presence on the ice. His easy-going personality has him liked by all, but his lack of production in big games continues to dog him. During the NHL's regular season, Thornton averages well over a point per game. In the playoffs, he's been limited to 53 points in 76 games.

4. Can anybody play with Crosby?

Babcock opened the tournament with Nash and Patrice Bergeron skating with the young superstar. That didn't last long. Iginla replaced Bergeron. Sunday, it was Mike Richards. Nash noted early on how special it was playing with Crosby, surprised at times The Kid could saucer passes through skates and over sticks to an open winger. Problem is, those on Crosby's left and right haven't been finishing plays. We wonder if Crosby is feeling the inward pressure to takes things into his own, soft hands?

5. Defence

In Torino, Canada's lumbering blueline corps of Robyn Regehr, Brian McCabe, Adam Foote, Wade Redden and 36-year-old Rob Blake struggled on the big ice. Not the case on the North American rink. But this team's defence, while still very good, doesn't have the horse to log a ton of minutes and settle things down the way Orr, Potvin and Bourque and a younger Blake, Scott Niedermayer and Chris Pronger did in previous international tournaments.

rshort@thetelegram.com

Comments

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    Mo
    - July 2nd, 2010 at 13:31:13

    To win the Gold the US has to win 3 games, for Canada to win the Gold they have to win 4. Doesn't sound too difficult that way, now does it?

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    Calvin
    - July 2nd, 2010 at 13:30:58

    2. Winning hockey games means more than simply outscoring the other team .....

    Actually, outscoring the opposition is exactly what wins hockey games.

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    Shannon
    - July 2nd, 2010 at 13:26:44

    I love how people (aka James) label Canadian hockey as goonish, beat 'em in the alley type hockey when there are examples like those indicated involving all nations playing hockey. Remember the Piestany Punch up during the 87 Word Juniors when Canada had chance at a gold medal and the Soviets were eliminated? The Soviets started a brawl and consequently both teams were expelled from the competition costing Canada a possible gold medal. Or the spear on Theo Fleury during the 02 Olympics .... or the kick on Gary Bergman in '72 or the hit on Gretzky during the 91 Canada Cup by Gary Suter ... or Ryan Suter sitting on Sidney Crosby this past Sunday .... Ah yes, the Rose-Coloured glasses eh James - you might want to look in a mirror. I'm just saying the type of thing you note as Canadian hockey goes both ways. You just choose not to see it.

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    James
    - July 2nd, 2010 at 13:25:39

    2. Good old fashioned Canadian hockey

    aka Injure the top player on the other team... or take a run at the ref... Worked for Bobby Clarke and J.P. Parise in 1972, and Mark Messier in 1984.

    4. Leadership

    See above.

    Funny how Clarke and Messier are remember as gods but Patrice Cormier is seen as a goon. Take off the self righteous-rose colour glasses (I'm looking at you, Robin Short, from past articles), hockey is way tamer than it was in the 70's and other countries have always been as good if not better than Canada. We might as well enjoy the show and not loose sleep over it!

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    MP_Gaffer
    - July 2nd, 2010 at 13:24:13

    Not enough credit being given here to Brian Burke & Ron Wilson on the US side. They picked players that would not be intimidated to take on Canada & their horde of screaming fans in their own barn. The US players even had the hate for Canada going on before the game.

    This is what Canada needs - some muckers, some grinders & some nasty haters - Bobby Clarke we need you!

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    Wayne
    - July 2nd, 2010 at 13:12:09

    I think that we may need to face the fact that a country with a population of over 250million and pretty much unlimited resources may be able to beat us at our own game. It's absolutely amazing that we do as well as we do with a population that's less than California's.

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    John
    - July 2nd, 2010 at 13:11:31

    Hockey championship games are mostly about Defence and Goaltending -- particularly the latter. It might be a cliche and stating the obvious, but the team in the Gold Medal game with the hot goalie will be Olympic champions. (And I'm talking about men's hockey; I know absolutely nothing about the women's game.)

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    Mo
    - July 1st, 2010 at 20:19:35

    To win the Gold the US has to win 3 games, for Canada to win the Gold they have to win 4. Doesn't sound too difficult that way, now does it?

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  • Username
    Calvin
    - July 1st, 2010 at 20:19:09

    2. Winning hockey games means more than simply outscoring the other team .....

    Actually, outscoring the opposition is exactly what wins hockey games.

    Submit a Comment

  • Username
    Shannon
    - July 1st, 2010 at 20:13:50

    I love how people (aka James) label Canadian hockey as goonish, beat 'em in the alley type hockey when there are examples like those indicated involving all nations playing hockey. Remember the Piestany Punch up during the 87 Word Juniors when Canada had chance at a gold medal and the Soviets were eliminated? The Soviets started a brawl and consequently both teams were expelled from the competition costing Canada a possible gold medal. Or the spear on Theo Fleury during the 02 Olympics .... or the kick on Gary Bergman in '72 or the hit on Gretzky during the 91 Canada Cup by Gary Suter ... or Ryan Suter sitting on Sidney Crosby this past Sunday .... Ah yes, the Rose-Coloured glasses eh James - you might want to look in a mirror. I'm just saying the type of thing you note as Canadian hockey goes both ways. You just choose not to see it.

    Submit a Comment

  • Username
    James
    - July 1st, 2010 at 20:12:05

    2. Good old fashioned Canadian hockey

    aka Injure the top player on the other team... or take a run at the ref... Worked for Bobby Clarke and J.P. Parise in 1972, and Mark Messier in 1984.

    4. Leadership

    See above.

    Funny how Clarke and Messier are remember as gods but Patrice Cormier is seen as a goon. Take off the self righteous-rose colour glasses (I'm looking at you, Robin Short, from past articles), hockey is way tamer than it was in the 70's and other countries have always been as good if not better than Canada. We might as well enjoy the show and not loose sleep over it!

    Submit a Comment

  • Username
    MP_Gaffer
    - July 1st, 2010 at 20:09:44

    Not enough credit being given here to Brian Burke & Ron Wilson on the US side. They picked players that would not be intimidated to take on Canada & their horde of screaming fans in their own barn. The US players even had the hate for Canada going on before the game.

    This is what Canada needs - some muckers, some grinders & some nasty haters - Bobby Clarke we need you!

    Submit a Comment

  • Username
    Wayne
    - July 1st, 2010 at 19:49:11

    I think that we may need to face the fact that a country with a population of over 250million and pretty much unlimited resources may be able to beat us at our own game. It's absolutely amazing that we do as well as we do with a population that's less than California's.

    Submit a Comment

  • Username
    John
    - July 1st, 2010 at 19:48:04

    Hockey championship games are mostly about Defence and Goaltending -- particularly the latter. It might be a cliche and stating the obvious, but the team in the Gold Medal game with the hot goalie will be Olympic champions. (And I'm talking about men's hockey; I know absolutely nothing about the women's game.)

    Submit a Comment

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