Fate of man who decapitated fellow bus passenger may not be made public

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The fate of a man who decapitated a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus may not be made public.
Vince Li was found not criminally responsible for killing Tim McLean last July on a bus heading to Winnipeg, so it is now up to a review board to decide what happens.
Manitoba's criminal code review board is to meet Monday to assess whether Li should be institutionalized or given a conditional release.
But the board's chairman says releasing the decision could violate Li's rights as a patient.
John Stefaniuk says government lawyers have advised against releasing any details on board rulings but that hasn't been tested until now.
McLean's mother says Li should be treated as a criminal and not as a patient.

Geographic location: Winnipeg, Manitoba

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  • John W.
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Do you people realize if a jury was called that you would be ineligible to participate. The review board in this case has a difficult time ahead to determine the fate of this man. I dont know how you justify making such comments in such an important issue. Fortunately we have law and order which make the final determination.

  • Telling it like it is
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Are you kidding me?

    Hold on, so just because this guy has a few mental issues, this allows him the benefit to perhaps being discharged?

    This is complete BULL SHYTE!

    I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH OF MY TAXES WILL GO TOWARDS KEEPING THIS PSYCHO LOCKED UP IN A NUTHOUSE FOR THE REST OF HIS NATURAL LIFE, HE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BREATHE FREE AIR.

  • Ted
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

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    Manitobas criminal code review board is to meet Monday to assess whether Li should be institutionalized or given a conditional release.
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    They actually have to decide if this guy should ever see the light of days again? Incredible! I have empathy for people with mental health issues, however, when they are this dangerous, then public safety has to be paramount. Keep him institutionalized! We simply can't take that chance.

  • Roberta
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Vince Li is a murderer, pure and simple. He has obvioulsy learned, through his skilled defense attorney no doubt, just how to manipulate the Canadian penal system. I think it's absolutely horrifying that someone with enough evil in him to decapitate another human being, on a bus, in full view of others, would be turned loose to roam among normal, God fearing, decent citizens. I hope and pray that Canadian jurisprudence acts properly in this case.

  • DeeBee
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    This blows me away. OK, so he's not 'criminally' responsible, but he was still responsible. His fate should be made public. His actions certainly were. I'm sick and tired of the rights of the criminals and the insane. What about the rights of the general public to be protected from people like Li? Where are Tim McLean's rights? I guess he's dead so he doesn't need them anymore... so only the rights of the killer are important now? Outrageous! Maybe countries in the Middle East are right on one point... the laws in North America protect the wrong people. Then again, what can you expect when the lawyers make the rules to line their own pockets? They can't keep making money if the criminals are dealt with in a harsh, final way, can they? Gotta keep putting them back out into the public so more money can be made when someone else gets killed. Vincent Li should never be released from a cell for the rest of his days for what he's done. It's not to punish him; it's to protect the public & prevent a repeat.

  • Sparkey
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    This news is pretty sad , & I feel bad for the Mclean Family but one thing this family has to realize is that the Canadain Laws are out-dated for about 50yrs! This -uck`n guy will be in a shopping mall in a year or so,shopping & looking around like nothing happened! I can see why: people from other parts of the world,want to live in Canada!

  • Paul
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Permanent institutionalization. Good chance with the right drugs he can behave normally. But how do we, forever, monitor whether he takes them correctly or maybe stops and then get so out of sorts to get himself back on them before he kills someone else? Protection of the public should be the priority and if someone for whatever reason is a large risk then we should err on the side of the victims or potential victims. Beyond that he should be deported back to China as it seems he got here under some false pretenses (ie. no mental problems) and China should have to deal with him.

  • Tracey
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    This is a prime example of why we should have the death penalty....this creep does not deserve to breathe air at all as far as I am concerned....

  • kim
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    I'm disgusted in the justice system. This man Li is a criminal. It was disgusting what he did and even more disgusting that he will not pay for his actions!!!

  • S
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    OUTRAGEOUS !!! What about the rights of the victim,his family and the public...

  • Brad
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    I say let him out in the public and advertise where he will be released, and let the public get some justice. Where are we living for anyone to see any sensibility in this situation?

  • JON
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    THIS SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER. THIS GUY SHOULD FRY. THATS Y I LIKE TO WATCH LAW & ORDER WITH JACK MCCAIN HE WOULD HAVE THAT LITTLE PEIECE OF SHAT BEG FOR A DEAL........WE ALL HOPE PEOPLE IN MTB LAW OFFICES REALIZE THIS GUY CAN'T SIMPLY WALK. TAKE UR HEADS OUT OF UR ( ! )'S

  • frank
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    the man should spend the rest of his natural life behind bars for doing what he did, he should'nt be treated in a mental instut. that's the easy way out

  • Susan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    I can't imagine they would even consider letting him under any kind of conditions. He took off a mans head in front of many people. This is unbelievable. He is NEVER safe to be out. What if he has a relapse? Whose family member would he attack then?

  • Earl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    They're considering a conditional release ? What would the conditions be? Don't decapitate any more people?

    This man should never be allowed in public again. He cut the head off another human being. Who, in their right minds, would even consider allowing this person to walk the streets again?

    If this man is given any kind of release it will be a horrible failure of the justice system.

    I respectfully disagree with Tim McLean's mother, however. This man should be treated as a patient in that he is quite obviously mentally unstable. But it's that fact that should keep him from the public.

    He should be institutionalized.

  • Just-my-opinion
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    But the boards chairman says releasing the decision could violate Lis rights as a patient.

    What about the public's rights to be safe?

  • Grant
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    If it happened in newfoundland everyone would know what he would get, house arrest.

  • Pi$$
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Ya, well I wanna start to see the names and fates of the freaks that speed in this province. Bet most of you that harp on about others are the ones who are out pulling all the crap on our roads.

    Once you LEARN how to follow the laws then you can judge what others do, say or act. TIll then back in your holes and keep your traps shut.

    Not one of you know what lane to enter when in traffic, not one of you know what the speed limits are, not one of you know your left from your right. Give up your self perfecting crap. You would like to have your Momma's fate made public as well?

    Far too any people THINK they know whats best for others. I guess thats why you all have the time to post here during the day when you should be working. You are all so bloody well off.

  • John W.
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Do you people realize if a jury was called that you would be ineligible to participate. The review board in this case has a difficult time ahead to determine the fate of this man. I dont know how you justify making such comments in such an important issue. Fortunately we have law and order which make the final determination.

  • Telling it like it is
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Are you kidding me?

    Hold on, so just because this guy has a few mental issues, this allows him the benefit to perhaps being discharged?

    This is complete BULL SHYTE!

    I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH OF MY TAXES WILL GO TOWARDS KEEPING THIS PSYCHO LOCKED UP IN A NUTHOUSE FOR THE REST OF HIS NATURAL LIFE, HE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BREATHE FREE AIR.

  • Ted
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    ==================
    Manitobas criminal code review board is to meet Monday to assess whether Li should be institutionalized or given a conditional release.
    ==================

    They actually have to decide if this guy should ever see the light of days again? Incredible! I have empathy for people with mental health issues, however, when they are this dangerous, then public safety has to be paramount. Keep him institutionalized! We simply can't take that chance.

  • Roberta
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    Vince Li is a murderer, pure and simple. He has obvioulsy learned, through his skilled defense attorney no doubt, just how to manipulate the Canadian penal system. I think it's absolutely horrifying that someone with enough evil in him to decapitate another human being, on a bus, in full view of others, would be turned loose to roam among normal, God fearing, decent citizens. I hope and pray that Canadian jurisprudence acts properly in this case.

  • DeeBee
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    This blows me away. OK, so he's not 'criminally' responsible, but he was still responsible. His fate should be made public. His actions certainly were. I'm sick and tired of the rights of the criminals and the insane. What about the rights of the general public to be protected from people like Li? Where are Tim McLean's rights? I guess he's dead so he doesn't need them anymore... so only the rights of the killer are important now? Outrageous! Maybe countries in the Middle East are right on one point... the laws in North America protect the wrong people. Then again, what can you expect when the lawyers make the rules to line their own pockets? They can't keep making money if the criminals are dealt with in a harsh, final way, can they? Gotta keep putting them back out into the public so more money can be made when someone else gets killed. Vincent Li should never be released from a cell for the rest of his days for what he's done. It's not to punish him; it's to protect the public & prevent a repeat.

  • Sparkey
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    This news is pretty sad , & I feel bad for the Mclean Family but one thing this family has to realize is that the Canadain Laws are out-dated for about 50yrs! This -uck`n guy will be in a shopping mall in a year or so,shopping & looking around like nothing happened! I can see why: people from other parts of the world,want to live in Canada!

  • Paul
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    Permanent institutionalization. Good chance with the right drugs he can behave normally. But how do we, forever, monitor whether he takes them correctly or maybe stops and then get so out of sorts to get himself back on them before he kills someone else? Protection of the public should be the priority and if someone for whatever reason is a large risk then we should err on the side of the victims or potential victims. Beyond that he should be deported back to China as it seems he got here under some false pretenses (ie. no mental problems) and China should have to deal with him.

  • Tracey
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    This is a prime example of why we should have the death penalty....this creep does not deserve to breathe air at all as far as I am concerned....

  • kim
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    I'm disgusted in the justice system. This man Li is a criminal. It was disgusting what he did and even more disgusting that he will not pay for his actions!!!

  • S
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    OUTRAGEOUS !!! What about the rights of the victim,his family and the public...

  • Brad
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    I say let him out in the public and advertise where he will be released, and let the public get some justice. Where are we living for anyone to see any sensibility in this situation?

  • JON
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    THIS SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER. THIS GUY SHOULD FRY. THATS Y I LIKE TO WATCH LAW & ORDER WITH JACK MCCAIN HE WOULD HAVE THAT LITTLE PEIECE OF SHAT BEG FOR A DEAL........WE ALL HOPE PEOPLE IN MTB LAW OFFICES REALIZE THIS GUY CAN'T SIMPLY WALK. TAKE UR HEADS OUT OF UR ( ! )'S

  • frank
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    the man should spend the rest of his natural life behind bars for doing what he did, he should'nt be treated in a mental instut. that's the easy way out

  • Susan
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    I can't imagine they would even consider letting him under any kind of conditions. He took off a mans head in front of many people. This is unbelievable. He is NEVER safe to be out. What if he has a relapse? Whose family member would he attack then?

  • Earl
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    They're considering a conditional release ? What would the conditions be? Don't decapitate any more people?

    This man should never be allowed in public again. He cut the head off another human being. Who, in their right minds, would even consider allowing this person to walk the streets again?

    If this man is given any kind of release it will be a horrible failure of the justice system.

    I respectfully disagree with Tim McLean's mother, however. This man should be treated as a patient in that he is quite obviously mentally unstable. But it's that fact that should keep him from the public.

    He should be institutionalized.

  • Just-my-opinion
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    But the boards chairman says releasing the decision could violate Lis rights as a patient.

    What about the public's rights to be safe?

  • Grant
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    If it happened in newfoundland everyone would know what he would get, house arrest.

  • Pi$$
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Ya, well I wanna start to see the names and fates of the freaks that speed in this province. Bet most of you that harp on about others are the ones who are out pulling all the crap on our roads.

    Once you LEARN how to follow the laws then you can judge what others do, say or act. TIll then back in your holes and keep your traps shut.

    Not one of you know what lane to enter when in traffic, not one of you know what the speed limits are, not one of you know your left from your right. Give up your self perfecting crap. You would like to have your Momma's fate made public as well?

    Far too any people THINK they know whats best for others. I guess thats why you all have the time to post here during the day when you should be working. You are all so bloody well off.