Man who beheaded fellow bus passenger may get escorted outside walks

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Almost two years after he stabbed, beheaded and carved up a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus, Vince Li may get the right to short, supervised walks around the grounds of the hospital where he is being held.
Li is responding well to treatment inside the locked wing of the Selkirk Mental Heath Centre and should be allowed brief walks outside, Dr. Steven Kremer, Li's psychiatrist, told the Manitoba Review Board Monday.
Li would be supervised by two people at all times on the unsecured grounds, and the walks would be no more than 15 minutes long at first, Kremer said.
But the Crown and victim Tim McLean's family are opposed to the move.
"I struggle to get through a day without crying over the details of my son's death," McLean's mother Carol DeDelley wrote in a victim impact statement. "I don't want to see the visions in my mind, but they are still there. I don't want to be here speaking to the review board. I feel I have to be."
Bruce Martin, the man who drove the bus on the night of the attack, and who only recently returned to regular duties, told the board his only relief is knowing Li is "under lock and key".
"I have some comfort knowing that our citizens, and their children and grandchildren do not have to fear (Li)," Martin wrote in a statement read by his wife.
The board, which reviews cases such as Li's every year, is expected to make a decision by the end of the week.
Li's attack made headlines around the world. After a rest stop in western Manitoba, Li sat next to McLean, a 22-year-old carnival worker heading home to Winnipeg from Edmonton. The two men had never met. McLean was listening to music on his headphones, with his eyes closed.
Suddenly, Li stood up and started stabbing McLean as horrified passengers looked on. He stabbed McLean dozens of times, carving up his body and scattering it around the bus. Part of McLean's heart and his eyes were never found.
As people scrambled to get off the bus and police surrounded it, witnesses reported seeing Li holding McLean's head in the air, taunting officers.
Li was found not criminally responsible for the attack due to untreated schizophrenia, and ordered to stay in the secure wing of the Selkirk centre, subject to annual reviews by the board.
For McLean's family, the attack continues to hurt them.
"I used to enjoy interacting with others through my work and socializing. I don't anymore," DeDelley wrote. "I have been in therapy two to three times a week since Timothy's death to give me the tools to help me cope on a daily basis with the sorrow, heartache and rage I now experience."

Organizations: Selkirk Mental Heath Centre, Manitoba Review Board

Geographic location: Manitoba, Winnipeg, Edmonton

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  • criminal minds
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Even though I empathize with people who live with mental illness, I cannot sympathize with Vince Li. The very thought of that horrible, fatal night sends shivers down my spine. He should be condemned to life in a mental institution, locked safely away.
    When he is mentally stable enough, with the aid of his meds, it should be mandatory that he be reminded through vivid accounts the night he took Tim McLean's life.
    Mental illness in one is something for all of us to fear, if left untreated.

  • Margaret
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    James, I'm not able to do that yet with Mr. Li; his family, yes.
    Maybe you can do that for me for now.
    This is not the issue of the article.

  • James
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    Margaret, would you also say ''God Bless Mr. Li and his family'' or does your christian charity only go so far...?

  • Margaret
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    Li does not deserve such a privilege.
    And the grounds are unsecure, and I imagine there are some people, rightfully so, would love to get revenge on this
    man. Can you even begin to feel what the victim's family are going through every single waking minute of their lives? I don't imagine they are sleeping very much. My heavens, it was horrific enough to stab this innocent man to death, but what he did afterwards is uncomprehendable. Thousands upon thousands of people suffer from some sort of mental illness. You wouldn't even do something like this to an animal you were hunting.
    God Bless the Family; it's the only way they are going to be able to make it through each day.

  • James
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Who ever escorts this guy had better keep their heads up when doing so.

  • Cyndie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    If an animal attacked a human being like this we'd put it down,not walk it around the yard. This man is obviously insanely sick and in my opinion,after his outrageous actions,serves no purpose on this earth.
    I feel for the Mclean family,truly.

  • Peter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    You've got to be kidding. I don't believe this.
    Tim will never be able to go out for a walk ever again let alone for 15 minutes and Li shouldn't either. He should be locked up for the rest of his life and out of respect for the Tim and the Mclean family throw away the key. My prayers go out to the Mclean family!

  • Politically Incorrect
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    The State of Israel commits a flagrant act of piracy killing at least 10 people, while ''our'' government mumbles something about it being regrettable and THIS is what you choose to put on your web page? Is this meant to inform or inflame? Sensationalism 1; Journalism 0

  • criminal minds
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    Even though I empathize with people who live with mental illness, I cannot sympathize with Vince Li. The very thought of that horrible, fatal night sends shivers down my spine. He should be condemned to life in a mental institution, locked safely away.
    When he is mentally stable enough, with the aid of his meds, it should be mandatory that he be reminded through vivid accounts the night he took Tim McLean's life.
    Mental illness in one is something for all of us to fear, if left untreated.

  • Margaret
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    James, I'm not able to do that yet with Mr. Li; his family, yes.
    Maybe you can do that for me for now.
    This is not the issue of the article.

  • James
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    Margaret, would you also say ''God Bless Mr. Li and his family'' or does your christian charity only go so far...?

  • Margaret
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    Li does not deserve such a privilege.
    And the grounds are unsecure, and I imagine there are some people, rightfully so, would love to get revenge on this
    man. Can you even begin to feel what the victim's family are going through every single waking minute of their lives? I don't imagine they are sleeping very much. My heavens, it was horrific enough to stab this innocent man to death, but what he did afterwards is uncomprehendable. Thousands upon thousands of people suffer from some sort of mental illness. You wouldn't even do something like this to an animal you were hunting.
    God Bless the Family; it's the only way they are going to be able to make it through each day.

  • James
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Who ever escorts this guy had better keep their heads up when doing so.

  • Cyndie
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    If an animal attacked a human being like this we'd put it down,not walk it around the yard. This man is obviously insanely sick and in my opinion,after his outrageous actions,serves no purpose on this earth.
    I feel for the Mclean family,truly.

  • Peter
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    You've got to be kidding. I don't believe this.
    Tim will never be able to go out for a walk ever again let alone for 15 minutes and Li shouldn't either. He should be locked up for the rest of his life and out of respect for the Tim and the Mclean family throw away the key. My prayers go out to the Mclean family!

  • Politically Incorrect
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    The State of Israel commits a flagrant act of piracy killing at least 10 people, while ''our'' government mumbles something about it being regrettable and THIS is what you choose to put on your web page? Is this meant to inform or inflame? Sensationalism 1; Journalism 0