Dining in at HMP



A Saturday lunch for someone on a soft food diet at Her Majesty’s Penitentiary: vegetable beef soup, grilled cheese on whole wheat, sliced peaches and two per cent milk. — Telegram Photo illustration

A Saturday lunch for someone on a soft food diet at Her Majesty’s Penitentiary: vegetable beef soup, grilled cheese on whole wheat, sliced peaches and two per cent milk.

Published on October 30th, 2010
Published on October 30th, 2010
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St. John’s institutions praised for generous, healthy helpings

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Newfoundland and Labrador’s prison menu made the news in Toronto recently, thanks to an alleged biker boss.

John Neal is facing charges of conspiring to traffic in liquid ecstasy and contributing to a criminal organization. He is the purported president of the Toronto chapter of the Hells Angels.

In the days before his trial, his lawyer, Craig Bottomley, complained about the skimpy meals being served at the lockup. He planned on challenging the inadequacy.

That prompted The Toronto Star to compare lunches offered at jails throughout North America.

This province was in the mix and what it serves at the lockup during trials stood out enough for the reporter to lead off an Oct. 18 story with it.

“If you are going to be arrested,” Tracey Tyler wrote, “you’ll likely be healthier if it happens in Newfoundland. ... Consider, for example, the food.”

This province pays a lot more per meal than the Toronto Police Service — $5.89 a plate compared to $1.19.

As a result, the lunch menu here — which rotates and includes grilled salmon, roast beef and grilled chicken pitas — might be considered gourmet fare when put against what Toronto inmates are offered.

According to The Star, the lockup lunch in the Ontario capital is a sandwich (often cheese) and a glass of water mixed with flavoured crystals.

Vegetarians get a burger bun with a piece of lettuce and slice of tomato.

“I thought the days of bread and water were long gone,” quipped Felix Collins, Newfoundland and Labrador’s Justice minister, in an interview with The Telegram about the Toronto paper’s story.

It’s unlikely the prison system Collins oversees would have fared as well two years ago.

Changing the corrections menu was one of 77 recommendations in “Decades of Darkness, Moving Towards the Light,” the December 2008 report which examined problems in the province’s prison system.

It suggested adequate meals be provided to inmates at all times and that a wide variety of meals be available.

For a taste of the general menu at Her Majesty’s Penitentiary click here:

For the first week of the HMP’s general meal plan, visit... media/flying/844/HMPMenuWK1.pdf

For the second week of the HMP’s general meal plan, visit... media/flying/844/HMPMenuWk2.pdf

For the third week of the HMP’s general meal plan, visit...media/flying/844/HMPMenuWK3.pdf

For the fourth week of the HMP’s general meal plan, visit... media/flying/844/HMPMenuWK4.pdf

Collins said the province acted on that recommendation in January 2009, contracting a registered dietitian to help revamp the meal plan.

That resulted in five different menus — one for the general population as well as plans for diabetics, vegetarians, people trying to lower cholesterol and those who can only eat soft foods.

The same meals are served at the St. John’s lockup as at Her Majesty’s Penitentiary (HMP).

The Telegram obtained copies of the menus and found a wide array of appetizing options.

On Saturday night in Week 4 of the cycle, for example, an inmate eating regular meals at The Pen would dine on sweet and sour pork, wild rice, an egg roll, mixed vegetables, chicken noodle soup, dessert, fresh fruit, and two per cent milk.

That same evening, a diabetic and person trying to lower their cholesterol would get sweet and sour lean pork, wild rice, mixed veggies, frozen yogurt, and skim milk.

A vegetarian would eat sweet and sour lentil chop suey, wild rice, a vegetable egg roll, mixed vegetables, dessert, fresh fruit, and soy milk.

Someone who needs soft food would have sweet and sour shaved pork, noodles, mixed vegetables, frozen yogurt, fresh fruit and two per cent milk.

That’s just one supper in a four-week cycle.

Other meals include seafood linguine, shepherd’s pie with lean meat, grilled veggie and hummus sandwich, and frittatas.

Repeated attempts to speak with prisoners about the food were unsuccessful for a variety of reasons, including the lockdown in place at Her Majesty’s Penitentiary earlier this week.

Canon John Paul Westin of St. Thomas’ Anglican Church visits The Pen weekly to conduct a prison ministry.

He eats the food on occasion and noted the roast beef was pretty good on Thursday.

“I think it’s great and, as far as I know, the guys like it. That’s the feedback I get,” he said, admitting he didn’t know the menu had changed in the past year or so.

Cindy Murphy is executive director of the John Howard Society,

She actually doesn’t get a lot of feedback on the food, but she said that’s a good sign.

“Because over the years — and I’ve been around corrections for a long time — we’d hear a lot about the food at the penitentiary and other institutions,” she said, adding in the past she’d hear complaints about quality and quantity.

From the informal discussions she’s had, Murphy said she hears the meal plan is healthier and has more variety now.

“This makes a big difference ... being able to be eat properly,” she said.

Murphy said meals have a profound impact on an institution.

“Because there’s not a big lot to focus on when you’re in custody, and food, obviously, is important to all of us. And when it’s not adequate, or insufficient ,or just not healthy or appropriate, it causes a lot of consternation among the inmates themselves. There’s an awful lot of talk and kind of unrest, really. And we’re not hearing much, and that’s a good sign.”

Collins agreed, saying one of the positive spinoffs of the improved food is a smoother-functioning institution.

The minister said the response from inmates has been “very, very good.”

He noted the province has fully or partially implemented 73 of the 77 recommendations in Decades of Darkness.

“We’ve made major inroads in improving our corrections system,” he said.

“We still have a major problem with regards to infrastructure, as you well know. But in terms of programming and attending to the needs of staff and inmates, I think we’ve made great strides.”

Back in Toronto, Bottomley didn’t get a chance to raise the food issue in court before the Toronto Police Service told him he could bring Neal extra food.

The was a catch, The Star reported Oct. 19 — the lawyer had to provide it and Neal’s family had to foot the bill.

The first day of that arrangement saw Bottomley bring his client a turkey sandwich on brown bread, a butter tart and a chocolate milk.

 

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    ralph
    - November 9th, 2010 at 15:21:00

    This message is completely for Jay(The Moron). jay, I hope you never ever have to spend one second behind bars. Why? Well you don't have the balls to last. My crime was assault jay not theft or drugs or anything else, just assault. Actually, all my record is violence. See I was sexually abused as a child by a moron like you. I ended up suffering from PTSD which of course an idiot moron like you wouldn't know about. Actually, you idiotic pathetic statemnet shows that. You are a no-brainer bud. TYou are one of these people in society who are more abusive than some of thse behind bars. Just look at your words and you can see if you open your eyes just how verbally abusive you really are and from what I have learned from being like you and from bettering myself today, most likely you abuse women and kids and most likely you'r nothing more than a control freak. It's in your words. If in your words then in your heart, then in your actions. hey jay, when was the last time you sinned or broke the law. if you are so perfect why are you living in this society? can't answer that one uh.To finish jay, I'll say this, " It is INORANCE such as yours that breeds fear in thios society and that's why we are what we all are today, so imperfect." Jay, you don't know me so please don't judge me. I dare you to laugh in my face jerk.

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    Newfie gal
    - November 2nd, 2010 at 06:27:23

    David Just so you know when you put money in a loved ones account in there they can only use it for canteen, and it is not cheap, I have a loved one in there whom I send money to his account so that he can get noodles and something to drink to stop him from starving, if you had to eat noodles as much as those guys do just so that you are not hungry you would be so sick of them it's not funny. The portions that those guys get for a meal is ridiculous. Just because they are in jail does not mean they should not eat. As for the people who think that they are living a good life in there with free heat and gormet meals the MEALS SUCK and the inmates are usually FREEZING their butts off during fall and winter. And the people who think they have never worked my loved one worked from the time he was 17 until a year ago when he was arrested at thirty something. I'm sorry but if you have'nt lived it than you can't possibly know it. You think they have it made in there, living a great life...you go check it out, lets see how fast you change your mind!!!

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    Nigel Hawthorne
    - November 1st, 2010 at 07:37:07

    These meals are better than on Executive Class Service on Air Canada.

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    Dave
    - October 31st, 2010 at 13:44:12

    What is the likliehood of seeing such a menu in our school system, or for that matter, the regional health systems? I don't think I am going out on a limb in saying that most of our children are exposed to glorified and sodium laden pig slop. We are on the wrong track when those who, for one reason or another, are incarcerated for antisocial or criminal behaviour get better nourishment than oour children, the sick and the working poor. Something is wrong here - and it is not me!

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      Messyjesse
      - November 1st, 2010 at 11:45:01

      If I couldn't afford to feed my kids I wouldn't have had them. Bottom line. No excuse for not feeding kids a healthy diet.

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    Anon
    - October 31st, 2010 at 13:42:58

    What people can't seem to get in their heads is that if you take criminals and put them in a giant over crowded building with other criminals with emphasis on punishment, you end up with a pissed off man on the outside once his sentence is served. From there the cycle continues and hes back in jail gettin treated like crap because everyone (it seems from this forum) feels criminals should be treated like holocaust jews. Focus needs to be put on rehabilitation and EDUCATION! And we need to stop sending people to jail for drug offenses. Drug addicts are not criminals, they're drug addicts. IF a drug addict robs a store to buy oxys then hes a criminal and a drug addict. The two are different and society needs to learn this. Also, we can't keep putting people in jail for Marijuana possesion and trafficking. The stuff is harmless and compared to alcohol, it's a healthy glass of milk. Contraband smoke smugglers are imprisoned because the government loses tax dollars on the conveniently (and realistically imo) priced smokes. The government then puts the offender in jail for that crime which costs the government even more tax dollars. And you people can't see how redundant that is?

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    NL TURF
    - October 31st, 2010 at 12:53:04

    Back in the sixties, I remember turning up off the main street in Harbour Grace, where the fields on back of the Harbour Grace Courthouse are located, and watching the prisoners, tending to all the potatoes, turnip, carrot,and cabbage they had planted. Times certainly change don't they!!!While everyone should be eating healthy, most average working Joe types, have to work, to make money, to purchase healthy food. People in HMP should be no different. Make them either grow it or work for it. That is what the general public does, week in week out, and after seeing the menus, it's quite obvious, the prisoners are certainly getting a tasty free ride. Geeeesss, Im betten they never ate so healthy in their lives, and yet the School Lunch Program is always looking for cash so they won't go under!! Don't blame it on the prisoners, they just eat what is given them.They have zero say on how the system works. Our present PC Government could and should be more creative in how prisoners are fed at the Pen. It's our tax dollars byes, no one elses!!

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    Dave
    - October 31st, 2010 at 12:52:56

    What is the likliehood of seeing such a menu in our school system, or for that matter, the regional health systems? I don't think I am going out on a limb in saying that most of our children are exposed to sodium laden, glorified pig slop. We are on the wrong track when those who, for one reason or another, are incarcerated for antisocial or criminal behaviour get better nourishment than oour children, the sick and the working poor. Something is wrong here - and it is not me!

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    Toby
    - October 31st, 2010 at 12:52:43

    Wow, they should get nothing but the bare minimal when it comes to food. They're in jail for a reason, it isn't a 5 star hotel - or at least it shouldn't be.

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    david
    - October 31st, 2010 at 12:52:22

    Had to put money in your loved ones account to keep them from starving....too funny. Ever think that your loved one is pulling the wool over your eyes? Your putting money in your loved ones account to finace something alot more sinsiter than mr. noodles, I guarantee it.......

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      Ralph
      - November 2nd, 2010 at 11:42:18

      That a gal newfie girl. You tell em. David, I challenge you to do a week, that's all a week in the lock-up or the pen. Pick your choice pal. See whre your testinal fortitude is at then. No dave, money is not used to finance anything sinister. You need to stop watching The Sopranos and other action movies on TV from the 50's.

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      Messyjesse
      - November 1st, 2010 at 13:57:00

      David, you are insane. The money is used for canteen 90% of the time. And it isn't cheap either.

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    sylvia
    - October 31st, 2010 at 12:52:13

    has anyone actually looked at the menu's from HMP? The average portion size for the turkey, beef, chicken etc is 100- 125 grams!. There is 454grams in a pound, so to get a piece of meat that weight it has to be razor thin!!!... that is really gourmet meals no doubt. There seems to be a consensus within the above posts to starve the inmates simply because they are Inmates, and that everyone who is in jail has not worked a day in their life and is a burden on society. Well, Joe from down the street who gets 60 days for catching too many trout would disagree with you. If you don't believe that innocent people end up in jail, then ask the gentleman who just spent 27 yrs in prison because he was WRONGFULLY CONVICTED!!!.. if this was your father, brother, or son, would you want him starved to dead knowing he was innocent? We as a society democratically chose to have the judicial system be the governance for those who commit a crime and administer punishment accordingly. In 1981 we accepted the Charter of Rights and Freedoms as a means of protecting the rights of all individuals in this country, if you want to dispense with the protection of rights for those incarcerated, then you better be willing to forfeit your own rights in return because you cannot exclude one group at the benefit of another., it doesn't work that way. So the next time that you make a statement such as "starving all of them" lets hope that a) no one takes you seriously, b) you never have a family member end up in jail and c) you are willing to give up the protection that you have in order to strip it from someone else.

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    melanie
    - October 31st, 2010 at 12:51:17

    So are we not forgetting that these people are in there cause they were convicted of an offense. Why should they get the best of the best food. It seems like offenders at the HMP live a pretty good life. Thats why there are so many repeat offenders, they want to go back

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    curiousguy
    - October 31st, 2010 at 08:28:40

    I agree that in spite of the circumstances, human rights and personal morale must be considered for all. But isn't offering a meal plan such as this (sin spite of the portion size) a mechanism for more crimes to be comitted by the homeless? (I.E. instead of getting help, they get caught committing crimes so they'll be able to eat for a week.)

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    Audrey Hollett
    - October 30th, 2010 at 15:51:57

    This is what happens when do-gooding so-called enlightened liberals have an influence in society. Bring back chain gangs and get them fixing the hurricane damage.

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    sylvia
    - October 30th, 2010 at 15:47:25

    has anyone actually opened the links which outline the meals and their measured amount? The roast beef, chicken, turkey etc are measured amount of 100grams. You do realize that in order for a piece of meat to weigh that amount it has to be razor thin!!!!. There are 454 grams in 1 lb, oh this is fine dining all right!!!!... There were a couple of comments above that stated "we should stave our inmates" or "feed them bread and water", and the consensus seems to be that everyone who is in jail deserves to be there, well, tell that to the gentleman who was just released from prison after a 27yr term, because of A WRONGFUL CONVICTION. If this was your father, brother, or son, and you knew they were innocent, would you like to see him starved to death?. another misconception that is running rampant in the above posts is that every individual housed at MHP was unemployed and never a contributing member of society. That may need to be rethought... Joe down the road who gets 60 days for taking too many trout or hunting out of season, may disagree with you. Don't be so quick to judge those who end up at a provincial or federal institution, you don't have all the facts. While to topic of this report may have been on the food available to an alleged member of a bike gang, not everyone is incarcerated for criminal gang activity. ( oh and just a little food for thought, some gang members do hold jobs, pay taxes and contibute to charitable organizations) We all have a part to play in the betterment of humanity, the judicial system is our way of democratically addressing the issue of crime in our society,and alloting punishment for those crimes. in 1981, we, as a society, approved of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to protect every citizen and look to it when our rights are violated, that includes those who are incarcerated, If you want to throw that out the window and starve inmates, then you better be prepared to have injustices come your way as well, because you cannot disregard portions of the Charter and implement the ones that apply only to keep you safe, it doesn't work that way!.

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    lewis
    - October 30th, 2010 at 15:43:13

    No Vacancy at HMP, I guess not, that place is more popular than The Keg, Many low-income don't have that menu, and Mr. Collins is justifing that.

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    michael
    - October 30th, 2010 at 12:49:17

    what roast beef and salmon and a chinese buffet.wow.i cant afford this.maybe i should kick out a cops window or something for the winter.free heat and all you can eat. What did harstberger have? all you can get beer

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    SGAL
    - October 30th, 2010 at 12:48:56

    iF THIS ISN'T ENCOURAGEMENT FOR THE LESS FORTUNATE IN OUR SOCIETY TO BE INCARCERATED THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS. i WONDER WHAT LOW INCOME FAMILIES WHO HAVE TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL HUNGRY FEEL ABOUT THIS. SYSTEM IS SEVERELY BROKEN!!!!

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    mark
    - October 30th, 2010 at 12:48:15

    Robz, More of a man because you are in prison??!!! The guy in the office is WORKING hard and paying taxes to keep your sorry ass alive and fed (apparently pretty well). May I suggest that when you get out of the HMP you attempt to join his ranks. You walk with the group that represents the least of men in our society. Stealing from your fellow citizens, beating women, selling drugs to minors, using weapons to settle disputes, etc... Prisoners are not soaring with the eagles my man.... you are crawling with the worms. You may want to try and pay attention in your rehab sessions.

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    professional chef
    - October 30th, 2010 at 12:46:54

    really to find out if the food is good or bad we should get Carl Wells to do a review. i would trust carl over a criminal any day

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      Linda Ivany
      - October 31st, 2010 at 12:08:40

      I think that's a great idea!

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      Whaaa???
      - November 1st, 2010 at 13:37:48

      Carl is a retired weatherman. Why his opinion on culinary matters bears ANY weight to ANYONE, is beyond me. Another column for another time, I HOPE!!!!

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    nasty nate
    - October 30th, 2010 at 10:55:41

    Maybe those low to mid income families should stop the Bingo and beer runs and buy food for a change. I rather would see my taxes being used to keep someone healthy while incarcerated, over feeding addictions on the street. The only people who see a problem with this are those that use the system and do not want to work for a living. Try a new game plan if you are so hard done by.

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    Nicole
    - October 30th, 2010 at 10:54:06

    Let me just say one thing here.....if your in jail, you don't deserve ANYTHING that your going to enjoy, no matter what it is. They all should be living on water and crackers, at least its cheaper. They are in jail for a reason, so no special treatment should come to any of them, even when it comes to food. Especially when it comes to murderers, child molesters, rapists, I say to STARVE THEM TO DEATH ALTOGETHER.....they don't deserve nuttin! To hell with everyone thats in jail! They are down there because they commited a crime, so let them all suffer. Maybe then next time they won't be so adoment to offend again!

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    Denise
    - October 30th, 2010 at 10:52:14

    Really? Yum! I was wondering if Eastern Health could possibly start using the same menu? And maybe government could use some of our tax dollars to bring some of this healthy food into a school breakfast and lunch program. Lots of the kids in our province are lucky if they get to eat hot dogs and kraft dinner for their evening meal. I didn't see any hot dogs or kraft dinner listed in the menu for the inmates. There are kids out there who commit crimes repeatedly because, in doing so, land themselves in youth correctional facilities where they get a warm bed, good food and nice new clothes. When they are released, sadly a lot will re-offend to get back into the system, where the clothes are cool and the food is good. I guess this lovely menu will be just what they will expect when they move up into the adult system. While I'm not proposing bread and water for inmates, especially youth, I do think we are teaching a sad and dangerous lesson. But since the government is teaching these lessons, don't forget to remind the inmates to commit crimes that will only land them a sentence of two years less a day. Don't want to have to eat that slop dished out at the federal level.

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    Tina Ellis
    - October 30th, 2010 at 10:51:57

    Do most believe everything you read. HMP doesn't feed the inmates this well. Actually they get small amounts of food with no taste. NOT 5 STAR DINING. I had to put money in my husband's account so he could buy Mr. Noodles and other snacks from the canteen so he didn't strave to death. You people are gullible. This was a setup to make HMP look good. They were ready to show a good side that doesn't exist. Go in and be an inmate and see the true side of being behind the bars.. You think it's five star quality and they are eating better then you, commit a crime and enjoy your vacation with 5 STAR DINING.

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      MessyJesse
      - October 30th, 2010 at 15:39:49

      I so agree with you. I have sent money there before for the canteen as well. There are times when my son has gone 15 hours without even water. Why does the news report these things. The portions are barely enough to keep a man full let alone healthy. As for people suffering.....get a job and stop living on the system.

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      Bells279
      - October 31st, 2010 at 12:09:08

      Or Tina Ellis better yet......be an honest tax paying citizen, stay out of jail and and enjoy your vacation with 5 STAR DINING ON THE OUTSIDE!! Man I just don't believe some people....."oh my poor husband is in jail and the food is bad..." well Boo hoo .....you do the crime you do the time.....and stop looking for pity from the people who have to pay for losers that decide they should get everything in life for free.....UUUGHHHH!!

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      Ralh
      - November 9th, 2010 at 08:19:30

      Right on Tina You tell them hun. The smile will be the other way if they had to eat that garbage. You hit the nail on the head sweetie, it was all a big set up by HMP and other fronnie ronnies. I bet your hubbie don't even wanna see Mr. Noodles now. You eat that many packs you get sick of them when released. Most of these cpomments Tina are from ignorant sensless incompetent, people unable to think about society and it's issues let alone deal with their own issues. They are all sinless people who have never in their lives sinned or committed a crime or have broken any laws.

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    doug
    - October 30th, 2010 at 10:51:25

    No wonder the place is overcrowded!..what ever happened to the days when prison was supposed to be a deterrent. Salmon, roast beef...give me a break! They should have to work for meals like that, what a waste of money!

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    Denise
    - October 30th, 2010 at 10:49:41

    Really? Yum! I was wondering if Eastern Health could possibly start using the same menu? And maybe government could use some of our tax dollars to bring some of this healthy food into a school breakfast and lunch program. Lots of the kids in our province are lucky if they get to eat hot dogs and kraft dinner for their evening meal. I didn't see any hot dogs or kraft dinner listed in the menu for the inmates. There are kids out there who commit crimes repeatedly because, in doing so, land themselves in youth correctional facilities where they get a warm bed, good food and nice new clothes. When they are released, sadly a lot will re-offend to get back into the system, where the clothes are cool and the food is good. I guess this lovely menu will be just what they will expect when they move up into the adult system. While I'm not proposing bread and water for inmates, especially youth, I do think we are teaching a sad and dangerous lesson. But since the government is teaching these lessons, don't forget to remind the inmates to commit crimes that will only land them a sentence of two years less a day. Don't want to have to eat that slop dished out at the federal level.

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    Ted From Barrie
    - October 30th, 2010 at 10:49:24

    Which Canadian Jail do you think Omar Khadr wants to grace with his presence

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    Bob
    - October 30th, 2010 at 10:49:09

    Everybody complains when somebody else is paying. When the lawyer had to get the food himself, it's a turkey sandwich???? Sad

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    robz
    - October 30th, 2010 at 08:04:41

    i agree with him , hmp food is ahit, and next time u do a survey ask people who are eating it, and yes we all diserve food, just because your in jail dosnt make u no different than anyone else , makes you more of a man than anyone siting in a office, you know what its actully like to live a hard life

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      Bogey Man
      - October 30th, 2010 at 10:49:59

      To ROBZ: Sitting in my office on a Saturday trying to finish up some work to legally pay for my life, I can't help but notice that I'm NOT MORE OF A MAN than a criminal? Smart comment buddy. I haven't had it easy, I just worked harder than you. Anyone can become a criminal, sorry if taking pride in myself and getting a career doesn't make me as much of a man as you. I guess we'll see you up on "breach of probation" charges soon enough after some gas station gets robbed of its smokes. Anyway, as for the story. No matter what, people deserve to eat healthy. You can't deny people basic nutrition because they broke the law.

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      jay
      - November 2nd, 2010 at 06:23:26

      ROBZ, Anyone can steal or commit other crimes to get by, takes a real man to earn a honest days work and work his behind off to provide for his family.

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    Dean
    - October 30th, 2010 at 07:46:38

    Society is treating our criminals better than the children in our province who are going to school hungry. We have our priorities wrong. If you do the crime do the time, and with it should come bread and water. I am paying my taxes, and I have a a say in where it should be spent. Prisoners is not one of them.

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    dawn
    - October 30th, 2010 at 07:46:29

    Well the link to the meals do not work. And seems to me that the inmates are eating better than alot of low income families ..go figure

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    D
    - October 30th, 2010 at 07:39:51

    OMG Grilled salmon, Roast Beef? while I don't agree with starving criminals I don't think we should be feeding them 5 Star dining either!!!!! Our convicts are being fed better than most of our hard working low to mid income families here in this province....... something just doesn't sound right about that to me!!! Commit a crime and you'll be fed better than at home! GIVE ME A BREAK!! At least give them a little bit of incentive to stay out of there please! What's next, massages, pedicures, and tempropedic beds at HMP?

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    Ralph
    - October 30th, 2010 at 07:38:58

    Now for cryin out loud, this gotta be nothing but a big joke. I don't care if HMP does pay 5>00 and change per meal, it's not the cost, it's how it's cooked. The fish is not to bad nor the steak once a month, howver, try and live on one of their hamburgers, the lasagna, and other crap food such as this. Here's a quote:"That same evening, a diabetic and person trying to lower their cholesterol would get sweet and sour lean pork, wild rice, mixed veggies, frozen yogurt, and skim milk." That's a pile of crap. I'm diabetic and was there last year and was supposed to have a sodium, phosphate meal because I was being treated for chronis kidney failure, yeah I got what I wasn't supposed to have. I actually had to fight nail and tooth for the proper diet and never did get it. Two days after I was released I was hospitalized with heart failure due to kidney failure and shortly after that had to udergoe surgery for dialysis. Hey buddy in Toronto, you want to talk to some inmates, I can arrange that. Just email me. However, I will tell you, the food at The lock-up and HMP is nothing more than less than dog food. it's not the food, it's the cooking. I had turkey dinner, there was more gravy on it that meat and potatoes.The lock-up food is always ice coldtoo. I can break a windo with the boiled eggs. Don't let the system lie to you pal. It's comlete garbage. The fruit, yeah the range I was on last year threw away more rotten fruit that it eat. That's healthy uh.

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      jay
      - October 30th, 2010 at 15:42:23

      Ralph, Guess you have a good reason now not to be an idiot and end up back in Jail! Makes sense doesn't it? Like the old saying, do the crime do the time, maybe Mr Noodles and Alpo should be the menu selections. Boo hoo we all feel so bad cause you didn't get a proper diet while in ...... JAIL.

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