- May 31, 2011 - 20:14
St. John's Moose or Newfoundland Moose would fit due to the number of Moose we have on the island. But they may axe the Moose name all together.
- Loose Moose
- May 26, 2011 - 20:11
Every business Danny seems to be involved with has succeeded. He even put this province places it never expected to be. Why not give him a shot at it. He is only being dissed by our government.
- P F Murphy
- May 25, 2011 - 05:21
So will the subsidies come out of our municipal taxes pocket or our provincial taxes pocket? Our municipal taxes have gone up significantly over the past 2 years and Council are talking of more next year. Breen shoud remember the point is to eliminate the Mile One $1.25 million subsidy, not maintain it. The people who want the hockey here shoud pay for it through by $50 hockey tickets so please include that in your business plan instead of tax subsidies. We should remember however, that the last franchaise failed because people just didn't go. I felt our provincial hockey was way better than a bunch of fumbling teenagers. Maybe we should be promoting our own product to fill the rink times.
- July 05, 2011 - 19:52
What happens after that three years is up?
- May 23, 2011 - 17:00
Would it hurt Robin Short to name a credible (or any) source from time to time?
- Leafs Fan
- May 23, 2011 - 15:58
Arghhh! Now I don't know whether to cheer for the Moose or the Marlies! I guess i just won't go to any Moose-Marlies games.
- Random Guy
- May 23, 2011 - 15:54
They better be called the Newfoundland Moose. St. John's Moose just doesn't sound right.
- Me Buddy
- May 23, 2011 - 12:58
this better not interfere with the herder schedule,
- Go Danny
- May 23, 2011 - 10:46
Way to go Danny, I have always loved Danny Williams, he is a down to earth man , i have had the honor of speaking to him several times at Irving gas station and he is so genuine. Wish he would come back as premier, now that would be an awesome election.you will be missed forever more Danny and thanks for caring about the ordinary Joe here, you are awesome. There is still alot of life in Danny and maybe we will see him back sometime soon, it is his prerogative if he wants to change his mind and come back, no one will ever be as good as he was for us and still is helping us, Go Danny Go, your simply the best.
- May 23, 2011 - 10:06
Bring it in, as long as it doesn't cost any taxpayers money. Tome to stop subsidizing Mile One too!
- May 23, 2011 - 09:49
great for the rock, but are you guys ready to pay for tickets, average seat in Winnipeg was 30 bucks, low end season tickets were 600 with the new AHL, travel to BC and Texas and the league most likely wanting travel expenses, you folks are looking at 40-50 bucks for a ticket, could be a pricy night out.
- May 23, 2011 - 06:49
I don't know much about hockey, but I'd much rather see a team named The Moose than the devils! And as to this Danny bit, get a grip guys; he didn't enrich NL. He made the rich richer and the poor poorer!
- June 21, 2011 - 10:11
I dunno if i can go along with somebody who doesn't know much about hockey. Where are you from that you don't know much about hockey? Just another Danny hater!
- May 23, 2011 - 03:05
The "ST. John's Moose ".....we will need a new mascott......can we put horns on the Puffin ? ..call it a saltwater moose ?
- May 22, 2011 - 12:27
This will bring more Ryders, Clearys. Clowes, Purcells, Pardys, Greenings, to NHL level. Thank you, Danny!!! We miss you, Buddy!!!
- May 22, 2011 - 20:08
How so? An AHL team doesn't bring in the scouts that the QMJHL did.
- May 22, 2011 - 12:09
Disappointed to say the least. I was hoping for the return of the Q. It is much better for the younger players here in the province to have a major junior team. Q teams bring in scouts by the dozen. AHL teams don't because those players have already been scouted. Every team in Atlantic Canada has a successful QMJHL franchise and were willing to move forward except this province. Look at Saint John. Had an AHL team that won the Calder Cup and now have a QMJHL who were the best CHL team in the country the whole season and are now the odds on favourite to win the Memorial Cup this coming week. I hope the people around here will realize that most of the players on the AHL teams today are one year removed from junior hockey--the hockey that they say is no good. Don't go down to Mile One expecting to see any NLers or players like Clarke Wilm on their last NHL legs play in this AHL. The AHL that we knew when the Leafs were here is long gone. The only NLers that are making this AHL are the ones that have a bonafide chance of making the AHL like Luke Adam and Colin Greening. I hope that so callled "hockey fans" in the metro area don't mind forking over $30.00 and upwards for team that are going to have the cost of running it through the roofs because as a new team they won't have the benefits of being a senior team like the Leafs were and the travel costs for this team is going to be sky high.
- Norm Peterson
- May 22, 2011 - 11:33
The great thing about how Vancouver ran the farm club in Winnipeg is that they wanted the players to experience the same thing on the farm that they did in the Show. They wanted the team to experience winning and losing and the effect that it has on the players and the fans. If a Moose player wasn't playing well, he didn't play. Most farm teams are told who to play and how to play them. It doesn't matter that a Fedor Fedorov was a -30, or Alex Auld couldn't stop a beachball with a snowshovel. Most Parent clubs would still insist that their prospects get the ice time regardless. The Canucks rarely pulled top players from the Moose just to have them sit in the Press Box as an emergency replacement. If True North translates their experience with Vancouver into their relationship with the Newfoundland Moose, you Newfoundland hockey fans are in for a treat. As for the loss of Vancouver Canuck prospects with the change in Parent Club. Don't worry. Half of the farm team developed players on the Canucks were found by Craig Heisinger independent of the management team in Vancouver. Go Moose Go
- May 22, 2011 - 10:13
sounds great to get some good hockey back in the capital city and the province. Question is ... how is Eugene Nippard gonna feel about more Moose wandering the island .. lol ..
- May 22, 2011 - 09:33
I can't wait to line up for season tickets along with my buddys!
- May 22, 2011 - 13:24
I am wondering how Robin Short can confirm anything until a deal to buy the Thrashers is finalized? People at True North Sports are denying a move here.
- May 22, 2011 - 08:31
I think you may have jumped the gun a little to early on this one Mr. Short, by the looks of this story its a done deal when in fact there is alot that has to happen elsewhere for us to get a team. I sure hope you are right if not there will be a few broken hearts in this city.
- May 22, 2011 - 07:26
This puts Danny back at the centre of attention again. A place he dearly loves to be. Just look at the comments on here. You would think he was the great massiah. His life is money and money is his life.
- May 22, 2011 - 15:07
Sounds like someone is a little jealous!! If Danny wants to invest his money in an AHL team for St Johns, good for him! And if i had his money i might do the same thing. And i don't think he is the Messiah, but he was someone who did good for this province. Did he make mistakes? You bet he did!! But if you don't attempt anything you will never make mistakes. Thumbs up for him investing money into this province. Graham...go enjoy your convention on the weekend.
- May 21, 2011 - 22:57
Winnipeg NHL ST JOHN'S AHL = ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY
- May 21, 2011 - 22:19
Trying to make a successful hockey team go in St. John's is a waste of time, effort and money. The venue at Mile One is not adequate and the hockey player talent pool in Newfoundland is too shallow. It appears that Danny millions will dive right in head first. A fool and his money are soon parted.
- May 22, 2011 - 14:37
Don don't comment on a topic you clearly know nothing about the baby leafs to this day were one of the most successful minor league teams ever also an ahl franchise doesn't rely on local players at all to fill rosters which in actuality is too bad to say the talent pool in NFLD is weak clearly shows u know nothing about hockey and have obviously tuned out of this years Stanley cup stiffs the biggest stage in the world is currently being dominated by depth players and leaders from our province and per capita we produce the most pro players in the country with many more on the way btw it was a Kilbride native that won ahl rookie of te year this season oh and btw he also played for the fog devils this is great news the ahl I returning the city of legends has been missing something to rally around for the last six gets and as we move forward to prosperity we now will ja e something to come torture and rally around I just hope we bring back buddy the puffin and give the team a new name otter than moose maybe te st johns legends
- May 21, 2011 - 22:05
For the past 13 years, I have attended Moose games on a regular basis in Manitoba. Although the possibility of getting the NHL back here, I am sad to see the Moose leave. They have been a first class organization. Attendance averages around 7500, with a few games each year selling out the arena at 15, 000. The success fo the Moose organization is one of the reason the NHL would consider returning here. I enjoy cheering for the Canucks right now because so many of these players have come out of the Moose system. However, as a Newfoundlander living in Winnipeg, I will not complain about them heading to the island (if that happens). It will allow me to still cheer for the 'home' team. I hope people back home get behind this team.
- May 21, 2011 - 21:24
As a transplanted east coaster living in Winnipeg I have two comments. First, I love the idea of pro hockey returning to St. John's -- awesome. Second, I'm not sure who will actually be making the trip from a player perspective as many of the guys are Canucks prospects, but if this deal happens, you are getting one of the flagship franchises of the AHL, which many know is very good hockey. If you look at the Canucks line-up, there are something like a dozen players who spent time in Winnipeg. One person had a question about ticket prices -- at MTS Centre they went from around $20 to $40 walk-up. You could buy full season tickets with OK seats for less than $600!
- May 21, 2011 - 20:05
If and when the move happens, that is great for St Johns. But the move of the NHL may not happen this season. I read in one of the many articles on Wpg getting a team that the request to move a franchise has to be submitted by 1 Jan of the year you want to move the, but an exception can be made. And until the deal to move the Thrashers to Winnipeg is finalized, and the move date is determined I doubt that True North would move the primary resident/major money maker out of the MTS Centre. That would lose them a lot of money, and the are too smart for that. Also don't forget, a majority of the players on the Moose belong to the Vancouver Canucks. You would be getting the franchise, not necessarily the players. I also agree, if the name stays with the team, what better place than Newfoundland to relocate to. Moose fan for life.
- Chris Chafe
- May 21, 2011 - 19:37
TO TAXPAYER: How is providing subsidies to a sports team any different than DUFF and O'LEARY wanting subsidies given to the ARTS community, or how is any different to expect TAXPAYERS of this CITY to cover the cost of retro-fitting George Street?
- May 21, 2011 - 18:59
Danny learned from his pals the Dobbins...you get a team, fleece the taxpayer and enjoy the continued public adulation doing it (see the comments on this board for proof !!) for a few years, then flip it to an ownership group somewhere feasible for a nice profit. The Montreal Junior are dong quite well in their new (real) home thank you very much. Sorry about Mile One stadium, but it's existence makes no difference to the business case for a team...the term is "sunk cost", and it's perfectly appropo.
- Go see a Therapist
- May 22, 2011 - 10:36
Wow, four posts so far which means you've revisited this story more than four times. You don't have to like the guy but the obsessive hate you display is not normal, you need to get some help, seriously.
- May 21, 2011 - 18:32
Danny Willliams...Is the best
- Joel Rennie
- May 21, 2011 - 17:32
the top players, the goalie ... all belong to the Vancouver Canucks and will be headed to which ever AHL affiliate they find. You better not mess this up again Winnipeg, were all countin on you. Go jets!
- May 21, 2011 - 16:59
The Newfoundland Moose. Senator Manning will love that name!
- May 21, 2011 - 16:13
This is such great news. We owe you another one , Danny. We all miss you so much. Thank you for all you have done and all you will still do. Run against Dunderdale next election, and you'll be right back in the driver's seat!
- May 21, 2011 - 15:25
I was so excited to hear anew AHL team coming here!! And leave to Danny to do it!! Our city has expanded so much in the last number of years..I dont think it will be a problem selling tickets to each and every game!!!
- Michael Bond
- May 21, 2011 - 15:06
I am stoked to hear of pro hockey returning to St. John's. Bring it on. I just hope past mistakes will not be repeated. In my opinion, if professional hockey is to have a chance at success here in St. John's in today's competitive sports market, then home games should be blacked out. I mean, who is gonna go sit in a cold stadium to watch a game when it can be watched in the heat and comfort of their home? All NHL cities black out their home games so as to boost ticket sales and it works.
- May 22, 2011 - 20:15
The NHL teams are not blacked out here in Canada. Bill Wirtz tried it in Chicago and it was a big issue with the fans. When he died and his son took the team over the blackout was lifted and fans were very happy. They need to do one thing to bring in fans and is something called winning. It's the biggest marketing tool a team can ever have unless you are the Leafs.
- May 21, 2011 - 14:09
Gee -- Wis -- looking at Robin's first 2 paragraphs sounds like 100%. Robin we'll make you eat your words out of St. John's Hbr. Go MOOSE Go !!
- May 21, 2011 - 14:06
I like the idea but cost is the big thing - Leafs travel costs were huge when all the Atlantic AHL teams left which would leave us to pay through the nose for seats... I will be interested in the ticket prices before I am interested in the team.
- May 21, 2011 - 13:58
WOOHOO, at long last, the American Hockey League is returning to St. John's!! I'm PUMPED!! I don't care what the naysayers say now, it's great to have a prime tennant at Mile One once again. Can't wait to see the new team here next season!!
- May 21, 2011 - 13:22
Come on everybody. Lets support this team every night. This is our last chance for any type of professional sport. I for one will be taking in every game I can possibly take in. Go Moose Go.
- May 21, 2011 - 12:50
Burning (cash) question: will there be subsidies by us city taxpayers? Thanks to Doc's recent 20+ percent raises to city staff we are already due a big tax hike. Add crumbling infrastructure, new developments, etc, and tax hikes are a given. There is an evident boom here - last thing we need to do is subsidise this effort. It should stand on its own feet.
- May 21, 2011 - 15:00
Would love to see a great hockey team in St. John's, after all thats what Mile one was built for. Problem as I see it is flying in & out all the time. The plane the moose have is leased from a company in Winnipeg so it maynot be coming here. When you look at what it costs for one person to get in and out out Newfoundland its going to be a lot more for a whole team plus their gear.
- Tony Young
- May 21, 2011 - 12:49
What better name for a Hockey team in Newfoundland. "The Newfoundland Moose". Almost meant to be. There attendance here in Winnipeg was very well supported and one of the top teams in the league. Congrats to my fellow Newfoundlanders! Now bring back the Stephenville Jets!
- maureen meehan
- May 21, 2011 - 12:39
Thank you Danny Williams!!!!!!! Am so looking forward to watching some good old Hockey again!!! Now this is a great holiday weekend!!
- May 21, 2011 - 12:23
I will support this team no matter what except when Grand Rapids comes here but thats another story, and like Robert said Moose nickname is obiviously a great name for this team and this province. But we should just wait a little longer until the Thrashers actually do move to Winnipeg first before getting to excited. Like Winnipeg we have been up and down this road with rumours too but we do have the support for this venture and don't under any circumstances blame parking as an issue for not going to games, use the buses, carpool or whatever.
- Great News
- May 21, 2011 - 12:03
this is great news for our city and our province. I read a couple of people complain about the costs and such. Sure the team will cost us money if no one goes and attendance is horrible, like the Fog Devils. This might happen after a while if the team has a few bad seasons, but that's all you can do. I'd much rather pay a bit more in taxes then have to go through another year where we have to see a multi million dollar building have maybe a concert every mth or two and basically just be stuck downtown with no real purpose or need. Plus, I'm a huge hockey fan, as are quite a number of people in this city, and would love the chance to go see a real hockey game other then a cpl of Herder games. Don't forget a lot has changed in this province the last few years when it comes to hockey. Look at all the Newfoundlanders in the NHL today. I bet a lot of them really got that kick by going to St. John's Maple Leafs games and seeing what they could do and thinking in their heads how much they want to do that for the rest of their lives. This is a great thing for the young kids and for all the die hard hockey fans. I can't wait till my son is a few years older so I can take him to the games just like my dad did with me.
- May 21, 2011 - 11:59
THANK YOU DANNY!
- May 21, 2011 - 11:58
I'm from Winnipeg, and the Moose had a ton of support. They're moving because the Thrashers are coming here, and Winnipeg isn't big enough to support two pro teams. also @Jeff M. The Moose don't have their own plane, they chartered one from a local company called Calm Air. It probably wouldn't go with them as Calm Air's based out of Winnipeg and Northern Manitoba, however they would likely do the same with a local airline there. Good luck Moose! Thanks for all the fun!
- Ivan tucker
- May 21, 2011 - 11:54
If it is true that the moose are coming to St. John's,& Danny,is eventually going to be the owner,along with Glen Stanford,being the director of operations,this franchise will indeed make it.I was apart of the St. John's Maple Leafs volunteer's for those eleven years,in various capacities,& the admiration i had then,for the two after mentioned,was only enhanced over time. I now reside in Ontario,but would give my heart & soul to work under these two individuals,as a volunteer.I wish Danny well,as i did when he was Premier,& to those true hockey fans,that help make the Maple Leafs a success.If those who don,t know Danny personally,& scorn him,at every turn,please try to meet him face to face,& you will be very surprised,as to what he really is to the NL.,people in so many ways.
- Jeff M
- May 21, 2011 - 11:26
Travel will be much easier for the new team as the Manitoba Moose have their own plane. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/moose/mighty-moose-travel-in-style-79038662.html
- May 21, 2011 - 12:17
Well, that's good, because running a little airline on TOP of running a hockey team...well that's just a stroke of business genius! I wonder why all AHL and NHL teams don't do that? Oh yeah.....because it is demonstrably, monumentally, and unequivocally stupid.
- May 21, 2011 - 11:12
Can't wait til toronto comes here and we stick to em good. Go moose.
- May 21, 2011 - 10:51
Hey MBC, as a guy who does some work with the Moose here in Winnipeg, I would like to correct the fact about the "lack of support". The Moose consistently were in the top 3 in attendance in the league since their move to the MTS Centre. For a team that came in to try and replace an NHL team, True North has done a remarkable job creating interest and support in what seemed like a no-win situation. If indeed you are getting our Moose, you should be impressed with the professionalism in which the team will be run by the True North organization.
- May 21, 2011 - 10:39
I'll be having at least 2 season seats to whoever comes! A great day for Canadian hockey fans with the return of the NHL to Winnipeg and St. John's getting an AHL team! Yet another thing we can thank Danny for!
- May 21, 2011 - 10:26
As a former Winnipegger and anthem singer for my beloved Jets, now living on the Rock, this is amazing news. I will definitely be a huge fan and supporter. GO JETS GO!!!
- May 21, 2011 - 10:23
It is funny I thought the only way we would get an AHL team would be someone with deep pockets who DOES NOT fear to gamble on a loss (hard to find) for a season or 2. I guessed it would take something like the Stirling Group (NTV) or Johnsons (as in Johnson Insurance) making the jump into it until Danny resigned. Do the math, his love of hockey + his determination + his lack of fear + previous experience with SJMapleLeafs could only equal AHL at Mile One.
- lemuel lawrence
- May 21, 2011 - 10:02
Danny ,you put nl on the mainland map while in office now lets get some newfie talent in the hockey world [not saying we dont have a good start already ] well done Danny . you can be sure all of nl are behind you
- Fred Furlong
- May 21, 2011 - 09:51
Will Danny lace 'em up?
- May 21, 2011 - 09:45
Yes, Danny's business expertise indeed... which is why True North gets to keep the team for a year (and foot the big bills for all the travel to the west) and Danny takes over after they've had a chance to re-organize their divisions and the travel bills drop significantly. Sounds like a smart move to me.
- May 21, 2011 - 11:12
If by re-oragnaoze you mean that there will be 4 new AHL teams based on the Avalon then yes, travel costs will simply plummet. Wow, those aren't rose colored glasses, it's a blindfold.
- May 21, 2011 - 09:43
Winnipeg team in St. John's and Atlanta team in Winnipeg etc.?? sounds geographically challenging. Good to hear for the Province.
- May 21, 2011 - 08:51
Danny's business expertise on display again.....a hockey team with significant travel expenses based in St. John's.....why, that couldn't possibly be a bad idea!
- Dave Ford
- May 21, 2011 - 09:24
Leave it to "Our Danny" to win the day! Pro Hockey is back!! Good work Danny !!!
- May 21, 2011 - 16:58
congrats Danny! wish you were still premier.we all know how much you love this province.I am sure that we all will support this team.if Danny and Glen has their hands in this it cannot fail.Can't wait to take our grandson to the games.Again thanks a million DANNY.
- May 21, 2011 - 08:47
WOW awesome news. It says oh so much that it's hard to fathom. Clearly Atlanta IS GOING to Winnipeg. Never mind Betman. Will we call the team the ABC Moose? Oh Danny boy .... you are good indeed. This is much better than politics.
- May 21, 2011 - 08:14
Well...............the name of the team does not need to change........."Moose" would seem obvious; almost destiny!
- May 21, 2011 - 08:10
WOW ! ! ! ......that's certainly great news.....and with such deep detail from Robin. Strange Betman denies Atlanta is going to Winnipeg, yet we are getting their AHL team. Awesome and wild news, that's all I can say. So what will we call them? ABC? CHEERS once again to Danny Ron
- May 21, 2011 - 07:53
YES. About time. Thank you Danny. Go Jets (or whatever) Go..
- May 21, 2011 - 07:47
Thank you Danny !
- May 21, 2011 - 07:27
I just saw on CBC news that there was no support for the Manitoba Moose. Is that why we are getting this team.? Didn't we lose the FOG DEVILS because there was very little support? What has changed now ? And how much taxpayers dollars will be given to the NL Moose.?
- May 21, 2011 - 10:57
The moose were in the top 3 in attendance every year. They got lots of support.
- May 21, 2011 - 13:04
The Manitoba Moose were one of the most successful AHL franchises for the last 5 years with attendance #2 or #3 in the league; this year average was 7500 fans but usually closer to 8,000 per game not including playoffs. Not sure where cbc news is getting their facts but it doesn't suprise me at all - WELCOME TO THE FAMILY!
- Steve Winslow
- May 21, 2011 - 15:03
I'm sure the Moose were a really big hit. . . . . . in Winnipeg. In St. John's? Let's see.