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  • AMP
    September 05, 2013 - 13:52

    Years have passed and I can't stop thinking about this story. My heart goes out to this mom and her daughter. It seems unbelievably cruel that social services would not cover the cost of her stay, I just can't understand it. In my opinion they murdered that little girl, it sounds like she died from a broken heart. How could they knowingly add so much stress to a little child with heart problems? What a cruel world we live in!!!!

  • MARY BOLT
    May 27, 2013 - 08:09

    this is soo heartbreaking a little girl 3 years old and taken away from her mom i know my grandchild is 7 years old and she would die too ,for one thing she died fr crying from a broken heart this is soo cruel justice need be done stand up pple let ur voice count this is WRONG....god bless mommy...her angel is watching over her...

    • Sad
      May 27, 2013 - 10:25

      THIS IS SOMETHING WORDS CANT EVEN DESCRIBE. MOST OF THEM WORKERS DONT HAVE KIDS THEMSELVES AND DONT KNOW WHATS IT LIKE TO HAVE KIDS NOR FEEL THE LOVE A MOTHER FEELS FOR A CHILD. YOU SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM HER LIKE THAT. THIS IS ABSOULTELY DISGUSTING

  • Rachel
    May 25, 2013 - 08:25

    I too have been dealing with CYFS for some time, I cannot imagine what Ms. Miller is going through, but I am very familiar with the illegal tactics of the Children's Aid Society and their lawyers. More times than not the Society does not follow mandated legislation, are completely exonerated of any wrong doing, regardless of the outcome to foster children or their parents. I had my daughter telephone me from a foster home to tell me that the 3 year old foster child that also lived in that home was drinking beer from abandoned cans left on the coffee table. When I telephoned a worker to look into this I was told the cans were empty and nothing was amiss. Shortly after the foster mother telephoned me, obviously very impaired and was screaming on the phone. Nothing became of this incident, and this is only one of many. We as citizens NEED to band together and protect our children. The CYFS of Ontario is a privately owned Organization that has been given more authority than the OPP, local policing agencies and the RCMP. There is no other agencies that oversee any of their social workers actions, they are given carte blanche tickets to do whatever it takes to keep children in care to support their jobs by federal funding. Until we can voice as a group of that we will no longer tolerate our children being legally kidnapped, nothing will change and many many more families will be torn apart and many many more children will continue to be ruined for life. I have also discover that at the age of 16 a child in Ontario has the option to leave the care and custody of the Society and cannot be reapprended. In larger cities like Toronto, Ottawa, Kingston and others there are many homeless teenagers that have chosed not to stay in the abusive living conditions that they have endured under the care of the Society. Once gone, they live on the streets, the Society continues to collect their child tax benefits from revenue Canada until the age of 18. This is illegal and should be punishable by federal law, However Revenue Canada considers the CYFS a provincial government department, and does not investigate. These actions are forcing Canada's young people to be homeless, and are further funding there abilities to legally kidnap our children by millions of dollars each year. My thoughts and prayers are with Maryanne Miller and her family.

  • leslie begin
    October 08, 2012 - 11:16

    we are soo sorry for a miller family for the lost of her little girl i would go carzy if it happen with my little girl and that is sad to have CYFS in your life that is not right if u need someone to talk to let me know :(

  • D
    September 23, 2012 - 20:05

    I truly feel for Ms. Miller and family. I know what CAS is capable of. CAS and the abusive group home they placed my child in was responsible for nearly killing my child. My heart cries for you as this system that many think is good and does wonders is truly broken and filled with coldness and greed. There is the odd good worker but that one good worker is seriously outnumbered by those who see children as a nothing more than a means for profit. It is so money geared here in Ontario that it is absolutely disgusting. No accountability, no transparency, no oversight. This system is destroyed, almost beyond repair. CAS destroys families, almost beyond repair. I often wonder how they can sleep at night. For those of you who think that this child must have been taken for a good reason, think again. They need no proof to take your child. You may want to keep that in mind so that your child isn't next. They are in our schools, in hospitals, everywhere. The proof is in the media and on the internet. I am sad to see some of the comments made to this mother who has lost her child. Try p0utting yourself in her shoes. When CAS doesn't want you involved, trust me, they can make it happen. They have a tremendous amount of power and resources. They have more power than our own police. Time to wake up before your child is next. If you are poor, single parent or have a special needs child, you are very vulnerable. I'll tell you the reason why they had my child, I developed a seizure disorder. they gave us three years of hell. They gave my child three years of abuse in a group home. they knew he was being abused in there, they did nothing to protect my child except offer to place my child in another abusive place in London Ont. Ms. Miller, may your daughter rest in peace and may justice be done for what happened to her. God bless you and yours .

  • beverley jerrett
    April 30, 2012 - 17:51

    I THINK THIS IS SO SAD AND DISTGUSTING, POOR MOM AND LITTLE ANGEL GOD LOVE HER I ACNT EVEN THIN K OF THE PAIN THEY MUST HAVE FELT.HOW CAN ANTONE TAKE A MOTHER FROM HER DYING CHILD COLD HEARTED PEOPLE THATS THE ONLY ANSWER TO IT.MY PRAYERS AND THOUGHTS ARE WITH THEM...GOD BLESS

  • Aaron McLeod
    October 14, 2011 - 13:52

    I cannont express how sorry I feel for this woman. The system of the modern age absolutely disgusts me. Why don't they stop hiding behind the rules and actually say how they really feel about the situation? Seeing, reading or hearing about something like this makes me feel guilty to live a good life that children like Chancey could have had. I wish there was something I could do.

  • kerrylynn osbourne
    October 10, 2011 - 13:52

    This is gut wrenching to read..Makes me ill to my stomach...This shows thats the government still dont have it right,,,They need to haul the big shots out of there and throw in people who live in the real world..To think that poor woman walking out of that hospital to a locked hotel and then a plane ride home with no baby girl is the lowest...What gives them the right to take a child from you that you own!!! That is her little girl!! and because she say her dad once omg..how many single women wish the dad would grow up at some point and change their life around and there is some that do...But they make that little girl suffer like that...i had a friend who social services was bothering because she went to a casino one night..she hasnt been out in years and she goes for one night and two days later they calling her a gambler threatening to take her kids...the girl dont go no where...but 3 blocks away a woman was having a baby loaded drunk and throwing it in the trash and they didnt do a thing...my friend had to threaten to sue the government in order for them to leave her alone....crazy!!..So i know the system is backwards....i am looking at my 3 year old son on the floor watching tv and the thought of someone taking him makes me ill...i would hunt them down...i seriuosly would....I hope this woman finds healing....and her daughter is at peace now...wish i could help her in some way..Its such a sad story ....but its nice to see all the wonderful comments and prayers for her from all the wonderful real people of newfoundland..The people that make us proud of newfoundland

  • yo mama
    October 05, 2011 - 20:06

    This is why people run into public buildings with guns blazing.

  • robin
    October 05, 2011 - 19:50

    i am so sorry for this ladies loss. what a heart breaking story. maybe the minister should pull her head out of her butt and see where she is in the wrong. child proptection is not always right and dont like to take blame for there dumb mistakes. as for miss maryann miller my condolences go out to you and your family at this sad time.

  • Fanny
    October 05, 2011 - 08:35

    Oh well I guess I will have to be COURTEOUS. It seems the systems today are strictly geared to help ,not the victims,but those who are supposed to be there to help. I cannot imagine what suffering and heartache that Mom is going through,WHAT A SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was bad enough that she was MADE leave her little girl,but to then have to b told that she had died with a bunch of strangers after crying for her Mom,to me that is absolutely and utterly something that I can't even think about,seeing as I am a Mom myself. I Pray that God will give her the strength to get through this with the hope of someday seeing her little girl again.

  • Debra
    October 05, 2011 - 06:29

    This is yet another example of how twisted and pathetic our system is. This can happen to any one of us. Child Protection needs a huge re-evaluation into the way they conduct their business. And believe me it is a business like any other. They have employees that depend on a paycheck. Without their involvement they wouldnt recieve a paycheck and so it is my belief that they get involved in situations unneccessarly to keep their positions. Someone explain to me the value of taking this innocent child from the most important person in her life, her mother in a time when that child needed her mother the most.. Who was really looking at the best interest of the child?? Come on! disgusting. My condolences to Ms.Miller on the loss of your precious daughter.May God send you comfort

  • Darryl
    October 04, 2011 - 22:29

    My god the absolute BS that is being posted here is pathetic. In my experience most of the people complaining about CAS are unfit and bitch and complain rather than admit their mistakes. There is so much more to this story then we the public will ever know.My heart goes out to this lady and her family but why should we be subjected to the pity party? Let the courts perform their due diligence and then make your comments. I believe you will find the truth will shock you.

    • Cindy
      September 23, 2012 - 12:28

      To Darryl MY comment is directed towards you DARRYL...... "How do YOU know that what is being posted here is BS and Pathetic" AND why would you say that "most of the people complaining about CAS are "unfit and bitch and complain" rather than admit their mistakes"?????? Are you a CAS worker YOURSELF? Are you a PARENT who has had years stolen from you and your Family by CAS? Until you walk in SOMEONE ELSE'S shoes, do not (I REPEAT DO NOT) Judge them. DO NOT assume you know what someone has endured because all you are doing is MAKING AN ASS out of YOURSELF "unless" you know what one has been through. NO ONE has the right to ASSUME what another has endured in their life NO matter what the situation is AND NO ONE has the right to Judge another!!!! There is always more to a story than one may be aware of but others should stop and think before they shoot of the mouth A.K.A "If you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"! Perhaps you should do some research on what CAS / CYFS / CPS etc are REALLY doing to Families!!!!!!

  • belinda
    October 04, 2011 - 20:10

    That is so sad and they call this Country Canada the best Country in the World ...The Government of Canada should be ashamed of them self i think it's time to wake the hell up and and start screening the people that call's them self's professionals who have no idea what they are doing and the So Called Government needs to stop wasting money and start putting it to use in better places.

  • leah
    October 04, 2011 - 08:54

    What is a hospital thinking when they hire or take on a charity such as this care taker who cared for the daughter who was dying-that did not allow parents in their home--what child do not want their parent near them--what child should be separated from their parents-esp if they are this young and dying.What was the hospital thinking--this child should have been kept in the hospital--this child was not a young teenager with a broken leg that you could go to work and come back for a visit--this young child should never be separated from the mother--yes there needs to be a inquiry and someone needs to be dismissed from their job

    • belinda
      October 04, 2011 - 20:28

      Yes i agree 100% Someone needs to be held reliable for this .. The Child should have never been taken from the hospital in the first place and the mother should have been able to stay with her daughter no matter what....what the hell is wrong with this world and the people in it heartless .....

    • Sarah Spring
      October 17, 2011 - 21:14

      @LEAH - you're clearly confused as to how both the hospital system and child and family services works. If a child is transferred to Toronto for care, and they are under CAS in their home province, they remain under CAS in Ontario. A worker takes their case and the hospital relies on that worker to determine who will care for the child outside of the hospital - it is NOT up to the hospital. The hospital has no problem discharging a child into the custody of a foster parent if that is the social situation, especially if the parent(s) are neglectful of the child even while in hospital. Similarly, there are criteria that must be met before discharge, and if the patient meets discharge criteria, there is no reason to keep them in hospital, especially if they are being closely monitored as an outpatient. People can die from unforseen circumstances as well - you should not be so quick to assume mistakes were made and people have been cruel. You know nothing of the girls medical status, social situation, or death. You should keep your comments to condolances for the family over their loss.

  • TM
    October 03, 2011 - 20:02

    I would ask what the “rules” would have been for this same family if her child had been in the hospital in St. Johns. Those conditions should not have changed just because the child was in another city. If her mother would have been able to visit then the provision should have continued long enough for the child to come home or go back to foster care on her home city. . I agree with Jason, there should be a public inquiry to lay all the facts open and determine if indeed the system acted “in the best interest of the child” in this particular case. Perhaps another child will not need to die alone and afraid if “policy” should actually be changed. For the sake of every “Chancey and Maryann”; have the courage to explore the possibility that something went terribly wrong. In a very pristine, whitewashed room with a rule book in hand perhaps every “rule” was followed to the letter. I don’t think the rulebook always works at street level. Barbara; Ethics according to dictionary.com means…that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions. I think your peers have spoken loud and clear!

  • leah
    October 02, 2011 - 18:34

    This story makes me very angry.Here we have a mother who loves her child and wants to stay with her dying daughter which is what social services expect though we thought but social services wont let her stay-and send her back to nfld letting her daughter dye without her....Now lets just say the mom didnt love her child and does not want to be there with her daughter-wouldnt the social services call that abandontment and neglect--isnt this double standards---this is a tragedy that should not have happened--and then we have family services minister charlene johnson stand by her workers-dont see anything wrong with this picture--wonder what she would feel if it was her daughter---charlene johnson should be removed-

  • ashamed of of Child Youth and Family Services Minister Charlene Johnson
    October 01, 2011 - 16:37

    This should never have happened SHAME SHAME ON YOU , Child Youth and Family Services Minister Charlene Johnson to separate a mother and small child at such a critial time in a childs life now where is she all because of your policies. May she RIP and god bless her Mother

  • Shocked
    October 01, 2011 - 13:04

    No matter what the situation was for these people, the bottom line is that the policy of CY&FS is to have the best interest of the child, is it not? Then, can CY&FS please tell the public how having a very sick child die in Ontario, alone, and most likely fretting for her mother, was in the BEST interests of this darling 3-yr old? I fail to see it! It's not like CY&FS didn't know the child was very ill and death could have been a possibilty. No matter what the issues or circumstances, this child should not have had to die alone. It is a tragic story and a very tragic ending for this little child. I can't imagine how her last hours were spent! Thanks CY&FS for carrying our your policy of working in the best interests of the children in your care!!!!!!!

  • Rod Lyver
    October 01, 2011 - 11:11

    Here is a ruling by Judge Gorman about child abuse. http://www.canlii.org/eliisa/highlight.do?text=barry+child&language=en&searchTitle=Newfoundland+and+Labrador&path=/en/nl/nlpc/doc/2003/2003canlii15298/2003canlii15298.html

  • Rod Lyver
    October 01, 2011 - 11:08

    I know a "mother" who beat one of her infant twins, left her with broken bones, did not bring her to the hospital, had the joke we call CYFS take them to foster care, remove the malnourshied third child to another foster home, lie to the judge on the stand that your not pregnant, get one child back as a "test" to see if you could cope, have the forth child a couple of weeks later. Cyfs gave this piece of garbage access to the children on a regular basis. When will someone take responsibility for the mess known as CY&FS? How many have to suffer and die?

  • Starr
    October 01, 2011 - 06:18

    This situation is akin to the residential school scenario. Same type of treatment. I guess we have not learned our lesson yet. This is just atrocious. Bullying legitimatized.

  • sick of cyfs
    October 01, 2011 - 00:47

    my heart really goes out to you and your family ive been dealing with cyfs for 13 months they really dont have a heart they are always on a power trip i really think you where a great mom but i pray that the system will change most of all the workers for cyfs dont even have children the system changed for the worst since the shirley turner case not the better how much of the tax payers dollars are really going to waist when there is bigger concerns for the money there is alot of children in care that dont need to be

  • NL Advocate
    September 30, 2011 - 23:54

    There is definate room for debate in this story. Yes, the outcome is a sad, unfortunate, and heartbreaking one. But, you have to ask yourself the question, why was the child taken from the home in the first place. Why was CY&FS involved in this childs life. There are obviusly legitimate and substantial reasons for the child to have been removed from the primiary care of her mother in the first place - for the protection of the child. When medical attention is required for a child in protection, is 100% of the responsibility to accomodate the mother and her travel and expenses on government? I think not. What if the child was still in the care of her mother? How would the mother afford to cover the costs associated with the operation, hospital stay, and trip? I feel that accomodating the mother to be with her child during surgery was the right decision to make. Unfortunately, the close out of the financial support of the mother in this situation was messy. A timeline for which expenses would have been covered should have been set out, or a clearer understadning of how things were to work. The mother herself should not have relied on CY&FS to cover expenses for herself until she felt she was comfortable leaving. Taking a child from their birth mother is never an easy thing to do, seperating mother and child during time of sickness and despair is heartbreaking for anyone, and those working in CY&FS struggle with this on a daily basis. The reality is, this government department is in place for a reason. They do as good of a job as they can given the circumsrances. No one is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, everyone has regrets, situations are not always handled perfectly. It is what we choose to learn from those mistakes and how we put that learning into practice that counts.

  • Mo
    September 30, 2011 - 21:39

    I see the department is as heartless and regimented as always. I worked with youth and families in low income areas for 20 years and can still scream when I think of their policies. One Social Assistance recipient I worked with returned to school and finished her high school education, applied to study to be an Undertaker/Funeral Director in Kentville, N. S., applied for a student loan, volunteered at a local funeral home....... and just when everything fell in place for her, Social Services would not approve the cost of an airline ticket for her to go. They are probably still paying her rent to this day. WHY AREN"T THEY ALLOWED TO USE THEIR HEADS SOMETIMES?????? What happened to Mrs. Miller is disgusting, no matter how many sides there are to a story. We are Newfoundlanders!!!!!

  • Jim
    September 30, 2011 - 20:20

    While you all have your opinion ,remember it is because of a 3 year old child who just wanted her mommy. That woman should have been kept with HER child, what a sad day in Nfld. Talk of policy, money, hostels, what a load of bulls#*€. I feel so sad right now as a nflder to see one of our own treated in such a way. Is this how humanity is turning out. Whatever happened to common sense, kindness, warmth, help your fellowman. We failed this woman and her daughter, the ultimate sacrafic. I hope we all never have to go through what this lady is going through. Just imagine for a moment this was your situation. We cannot even begin to underhand this situation, it totally feel apart. The people that we're to be " in charge" and I say this sarcastically because these people failed miserable in there roll as responsible human beings, they haven't a clue on being human. My prayers are with the mother, God bless you.. The rest of you know where your going

  • sadstory
    September 30, 2011 - 19:49

    First off I would like tosay this is tragic, and being a mother I have a great deal of compassion for this women. Now, for everyone talking about CYFS and how they are terrible and flawed, sit back back and think about why they get involved. They don't pick a name at of hat in the morning when they go to work, there are reasons why they get involved. I have been a mother for five years and I have a large circle of friends who are parents and surprise CYFS have never came to our homes. THERE IS A REASON why they get involved. I know every system has it flaws, but the majority of the work they do is very helpful. I have a number of friends and relatives who are social workers and never naming names, they have told me of horrific living conditions that children are living in, abuse, incest, drug abuse and living in dirt. They council women on how to clean there homes, how to get out of bed in the morning to get there kids to school. To most people that sounds rediculous, but this is some of the things they do to help parents keep there children. My thoughts and prayers go out to Chanceys mother and family.

    • carol ann rogers
      October 04, 2011 - 10:01

      I appreciate you area wonderful mother with strong family ties. |Mary Ann Miller was also a wonderful mother, her husband is who CYFS had their problems with and she does not have strong family ties, her parents have passed, no sister to help no brother to place a supportive arm around for strength. Alone is how to describe this mother. It is the vulnerable of our society that suffer the most. Mary Ann did not need help with learning to clean her home or get her three or her sisters three children off to school, as you suggested. Mary Ann walked her children and her sisters children to school every day. Little Chancey rode in the stroller. On sunny days Mary Ann walked the children to Bannerman park she would pack a picnic lunch they would play and swim in the pool. There was plenty of food on the table at Chancey's home, they did not have lice nor live in dirt...as you have suggested. AND TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO LIGHT...YOUR SOCIAL WORKER FRIENDS ARE IN BREACH OF THEIR CLIENTS CONFIDENTIALITY. You madam, should know absolutely nothing of your friends clients issues. In your attempt to hold yourself up as the "Best Mother" as compared to these clients of your social worker friends, you have identified what others have been trying to address. The system has flaws. You have lumped this family in with drug dealers now really you are sooo very far from the truth. Mary Ann Miller never drank in her life, nor did she smoke or take drugs. When does the truth enter your mind? Your opinion is inaccurate and your judgment of this mother out of line. HER BABY IS DEAD, that's the fact you need to focus your opinion. Your "I'm so great a mother, look at me" makes me wonder. Just why you feel the need to point the finger at another? You ARE a good mother, that's what your supposed to be. So was Mary Ann Miller, despite no parents or family around to help....She had to cope on her own. So madam, be grateful and show compassion FOR OTHERS NOT AS LUCKY. And for the love of God, before you get your Social Worker friends put under investigation by the department stop repeating the stories they tell you.

    • Sheri McMahon
      September 26, 2012 - 00:04

      It's nice to think there is a clear progression--just as it is nice to think everyone who is arrested for a crime is guilty. But the reality is there is a considerable amount of random chance in CPS involvement, and appearances take on a life of their own. In theory, due process eventually takes care of the facts, but that process is unwieldy and often takes too little consideration of its own negative impact. The purported issue here was not the mother, but the alleged time alone with the father. But a photo would not prove they were alone--it shows only what is within the frame. Given the child's life-threatening medical condition, it would have been only fair to rise to the immediate situation--yes, take steps to ensure no contact by the father without supervision (and was he anywhere near the city where the child was hospitalized by then????). And if a foster home is required, let it be clear that the circumstances warrant far more than the "usual" amount of parent-child contact. Pay for additional supervision if it makes the system feel better. Think of it in terms of child's needs--not just for physical safety but for emotional well-being. This child died alone, separated from her mother. Regardless of the cause of death, that separation could have been avoided.

  • mom
    September 30, 2011 - 19:43

    I remember sleeping on a chair in the hospital when my daughter was sick. I have to question the mother leaving because she couldn't be kept in a hotel. This is a very sad story and one we will probably never know the truth about. This child was taken for a reason. With privacy legislation we will only hear one side of this story.

  • barb
    September 30, 2011 - 18:03

    I have been reading the many comments on here and a lot of people think there is a reason for children being taken. It sounds like everyone thinks these people are Gods. Not true. Oh I 'm sure it was some stupid thing that some would say was awful. People who throw stones usually have a like to hide themselfs. How anyone could think that these people CAS is better than the real thing is sick. Know matter what was wrong at home the children are better off left with there parents. Unless they are being beaten . Kids have lived for years in poor families and turn out to be good poeple. There is more abuse in the system than what they would go through in there own homes. This child had the right to have her mother next to her even while she was dieing , thats this child and mother's right. It is obvious a lot of you people are talking about. I was in the system and know what I am talking about. Believe me this abuse of CAS to have all these rights is crimnal everyone has a different way of life and because it doesn't agree to some there wy of life. Doesn't mean they are not loved and not wanted. There are to many phony people in society that think 's everyone has to live what they think is right. We all have a right to our way of life and not be forced to conform to everyone else's.

    • floare
      October 01, 2011 - 19:53

      It is so sad to see that children are denied human rights. Somehow just because they are children, social workers decide that these children are not to BE WITH their parents (even if no abuse present) and the parents want them back. I know of a few families that were involved with social services removing thier children. One of them - family of 8 children had one child removed for NEGLECT or not taking to dr in time (CRAP!) That woman had 8 children and was waiting for God to heal this particular child rather than RUN TO THE DR for every little sickness. It was not life threatening but the child was removed for about 2 yrs from home, denied to speak his native language, only given supervised visits, parents lost lots of $ going to court rather than working, enormous stress etc. That's one family story short. Another family, single mom had her 2 daughters taken because of trying to alienate the girls and emotinoally harm them. CRAP again and made up excuse that looks "legal" enough to take the girls. REALLY SAD!!!You know why? we pay for these people TO PROTECT children and not to ROB THEM of their parents! WE PAY TAXES for what? Why should my taxes support such PROTECTION from them? I agree in abusive situations, take children but NOT FOR JUST CRAPPY reasons to "have work" for them to do. God never intended social workers or foster parents to RAISE OUR CHILDREN!!! It is us, the parents, to raise our child and the child LOSES A LOT .... bond with parents, language, culture, friends ... name it TONS OF LOSS on the child's part, and what is the benefit?

  • Ann
    September 30, 2011 - 17:52

    So sad.Should never have happened.As a tax payer this is where I would like to see my tax dollars going.This mother should have never been sent home. Goverment trying to save a few dollars Shame. Goverment should put some of that unclaimed lottery money every year into a special medical fund such a case. Lets get the polital leaders views this election year. Time for some changes in the CY&FS for cases like this. Praying for the family.

  • Deb
    September 30, 2011 - 16:12

    My condolences on the loss of this precious little girl, no child should have to be left with strangers after enduring surgery. I dont see how CYFS say it isnt about money..They had to know the recovery time for this surgery and to think of a 3 year old, regardless of whatever family issues are going on, would be sent to a strangers home as opposed to having family there is outrageous.. I would like to ask all that work with this agency if they would leave their child alone after surgery and come home, I know they wouldnt, cause they would have fundraisers to make sure that they didnt have too....Sad situation....again....

  • MM
    September 30, 2011 - 15:04

    I totally agree with the comment that Bobby made. If I was so worried about the care of my child I would have used the $20 a day given to me for food to stay in a hostel or something. We as Newfoundlanders never seem to get the full story of anything. We always get the one side that never seems to add up! Before we start putting down Charlene Johnson and the welfare system we need to ask ourselves a few questions. Why was she taken away from her mother? Why wasn't the father not allowed to see her? There are two sides to every story and we are only getting one. I as a friend of a foster parent can tell you it takes more than a picture for child services to take the child away.

  • Ed
    September 30, 2011 - 14:43

    I recall when little Zachery Turner died everyone was yelling about CYFS not putng the welfare of the child above the rights of the parents (or anyone else). Their new mandate was when in doubt - remove the child from the environment. We demanded that, and now we have it. Having said that, I have to say that if that was my child I would have remained in Toronto with or without CYFS support,. there are other options even if it got as bad as sleeping in homeless shelters so child of mine would be left in Toronto alone. Another question I have is why we only heard about this after this little child died ? Why was this issue not raised when the mother was told she had to leave Toronto? I feel badly that this little 3 year old died alone in a strange place, that should never have happened. But I also believe we only have half the information about this story - if that much. Interesting though that this woman who could not stay in Toronto but seems to have no problem retaining a lawyer?

  • Teresa
    September 30, 2011 - 14:37

    I just think this is the saddest story. Regardless whether the child was taken from the mother for some reason child protection felt necessary or not, the Dr.s and child protection/family services should have taken her seriously when she voiced a concern that the child was being released to soon. Who would know more about their child that a mother. I know people personally who should have their children taken away, and child protection does nothing and then the next person get s accused of something with no proof and their child is taken away. I believe that 9 times out of 10 it's the perception of CPS worker that determines the child's fate. They should have worked more with the mother and maybe there would have been a different outcome. So sad. My sympathies go out to this mother.

  • Lori
    September 30, 2011 - 14:32

    This is a classic example of policy made in a garbage can. A child with an attachment to her mother should have had full supervised access. And 20 gets you roughly two meals a day at a hospital cafeteria. Reality is this child died of a broken heart and Johnson should resign.

  • Stephen King
    September 30, 2011 - 14:14

    Terrible and tragic case. Hopefully someone can get to the bottom of it and determine where mistakes were made so that they are never repeated. Even though the identification of mistakes will likely provide little comfort to Mrs. Miller who has lost her daughter forever. In response to Pam Frampton’s comment regarding the facts represented in this story , while the article does state that the child was taken into protective custody, the reason why is based on Mrs. Miller’s intepretation of the facts. She states that the child was taken because Chancey was seen in a photograph alone with her father, there is no elaboration as to why Chancey’s father cannot be alone with his daughter, or if there are any restrictions on Mrs. Miller’s relationship with Chancey. I think this is the investigative journalism people are looking for which, contrary to your post is not included in the story.

    • Donna
      October 01, 2011 - 07:15

      I was going to say that the information was missing regarding why the father couldn't see the child and the data about the photo with him and the child alone just doesn't add up totally. I do agree there are two sides to every story but in the end protocols such as these should be individually looked at by those involved and judged accordingly. No child should die alone without their parents. Just imagine that little girls broken heart because she doen't know where her Mommy is. Even if the details seemingly ommitted added up to something horrible it still wouldn't justify keeping a mother from her child when the child's health is deteriorating. Speak out Mother and let your story be HEARD!!

  • MicWill
    September 30, 2011 - 13:50

    Someone should ask Zachary Turner if CYFS is a bad idea. Some uneducated my think it is a corrupt and unneeded department but it is protection for the children of our province.

  • Shane
    September 30, 2011 - 13:48

    And here comes the gag order. Just you watch.

  • Stephen King
    September 30, 2011 - 12:25

    Terrible and tragic case. Hopefully someone can get to the bottom of it and determine where mistakes were made so that they are never repeated. Even though the identification of mistakes will likely provide little comfort to Mrs. Miller who has lost her daughter forever. In response to Pam Frampton’s comment regarding the facts represented in this story , while the article does state that the child was taken into protective custody, the reason why is based on Mrs. Miller’s intepretation of the facts. She states that the child was taken because Chancey was seen in a photograph alone with her father, there is no elaboration as to why Chancey’s father cannot be alone with his daughter, or if there are any restrictions on Mrs. Miller’s relationship with Chancey. I think this is the investigative journalism people are looking for which, contrary to your post is not included in the story.

  • Joe Halleran
    September 30, 2011 - 12:09

    I think that sitution is very discussing,no child -parent should ever have to go through anything like that.I feel so sorry for you

  • bob
    September 30, 2011 - 12:04

    Ms. Frampton...upon re-reading the story, it does indeed state these (facts)....but they are the facts as told by the mother. Im sure that her story is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Seems pretty strange that CYFS would remove based on a picture unless THERES MORE TO THE STORY than the mother is saying from HER MEDIA SOAPBOX.

    • Cindy
      September 30, 2011 - 13:12

      Most people who read this story have never had to deal with social services or the agency as they now like to refer to themselves....and hopefully most of you never will.I recently have had to due to my grandchildren being placed in the system.So I am going to say something that I wish everyone would realize....the system is broken...just like many of our great country's systems....broken.The right hand seldom if ever knows what the left hand is doing.....It doesn't matter about antthing except that little child died alone without people who loved her around....someone should have to answer for that....but they probably won't....it's a shame and a truly sad story but until we fix our broken systems and people start caring more about babies than they do about money...not much will change.Our government needs to step back and remember the truly important things in life are not things.Welfare,education and health care systems....all broken.....very scary.

  • sissy
    September 30, 2011 - 11:56

    My heart breaks for little Chancey and her mom. While I don't know the circumstances of the case, I think it was horrific what had happened, just because of a picture. I do know CPS, and I know how heartless they can be and how they think. I would just wish that they would actually look around and see the children that do have to be removed from their families and to also give help to people that really need it.

  • barb
    September 30, 2011 - 11:53

    I would like to inform people that there has to be no reason for CAS to get involve with anyone. To everyone believes. They have more power than judges and can take anyones children if they want. They don't even have to have a warrent to my knowlege to go into your home and take your children. What happened to her privacy as a mother to be with her child through this illness. This child was and is still her child not the CAS. It's about time for people to open there eyes to the abuse this organiztion has. It is criminal and a crime that these people have the right to ruined families and interfer into peoples personal business.

  • Unbiased bystander
    September 30, 2011 - 11:39

    I'm reserving my judgement of this case until it all comes out in the open. Too many questions to really comment one way or the other. The mother could be telling the truth and was not given an oppoertunity to defend herself in court before this apparantly snowballed into disaster. or it could be that Social services did everything right and it was just unfortunate poor Chauncy died while waiting for a replacement heart like many canadians do every day. Even in saying this, it's just pure speculation on my part. I'm not willing to commit to an opinion until all the evidence is put on the table. Forshame on anyone who decides to do otherwise and make a quick judgement based on stereotypes.

  • TheOnlyOneWithCommonSense
    September 30, 2011 - 11:32

    These stories shouldn't be in the news. There is always more to the story which will NEVER be made public. While it's unfortunate it's also none of my business. I wouldn't be running to the TV cameras if my child had just died. It's sad that we give this kind of story an audience. My condolences to the family, your loss is great.

    • TP
      September 30, 2011 - 12:40

      I also agree that these stories should not be in the news as we are only hearing one story. I have first hand experience with situations such as these and the media never portrays both sides correctly. I have also read such ridiculous comments as "CYFS removes children for no reason"...this is obviously not the case, and for every child removed there are indeed good reasons, or else they would never have been removed in the first place. Most people will read this and just bash CYFS, which is understandable...Chancey should not have passed away all alone in Ontario. Her mother should have been there with her the whole time she recovered supposing a worker was hired just to supervise. But everyone should keep in mind that you are only reading and hearing one side of the story and CYFS cannot comment on specific cases. One other thing that is making me mad, is the amount of bashing taking place on the "Friends of Chancey" facebook page. The page was set up to send condolences to the family to make things a bit easier, instead people are on there commenting every 5 seconds about how people in the government are going to hell for what they did to Chancey. That page should be a place for people to share memories of the precious little girl and not to bash all of this stuff! Rest in Peace Sweet baby girl

  • Jenny
    September 30, 2011 - 11:08

    Well I agree this is very sad that the little girl had passed. HOWEVER, she was taken from her mother for a reason. There has to be more to this story. Sad to say, but for a little girl who would be suffering, maybe the best thing for her was to be away from her mother and the obvious influnces that had been set in motion to keep her away from the mother.

  • So Sad
    September 30, 2011 - 11:04

    It breaks my heart that GOVERNMENT would do this to an innocent child, I don't care what the issues are with the mom, this is her daughter and there is options around everything! Forget the welfare, and her getting off her ass to work and why should tax payers pay for her to be in Toronto, do you have a heart for god sake, the child is 3 years old and wanted her mother and it makes me sick that they everyone involved could be so cruel. Mary Ann you fight till the end, as much as it can't bring back your child, it can prevent this to happen again. Time for Charlene to get the boot, PC's will not get my vote! We need someone like Lorraine Michael who has compasion!

  • Proud Mother of Twins
    September 30, 2011 - 11:00

    YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL SO NAIVE!!! THERES NO DOUBT THAT THIS AN INCREDIBLY SAD STORY AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT LITTLE GIRL SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED BUT, THERES GOT TO BE MORE TO THIS STORY THEN WHAT THE MOTHER AND HER FAMILY HAVE SAID!! I AM A MOTHER TO A 5 YR OLD GIRL WITH HEALTH PROBLEMS AND IF SHE WAS THAT SICK AND IN ANOTHER PROVINCE , I WOULD FIND A WAY TO STAY WITH HER!! I WOULD NEVER LEAVE NO MATTER WHAT!!!! THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE MOTHER TO ME!!

    • Your Manners
      September 30, 2011 - 14:02

      Proud Mother of Twins; when you capitalize every letter of every word you are screaming at the other readers. I can only hope you do not scream at your twins that way or I would suggest child protective services pay you a visit.

    • Karen
      September 30, 2011 - 15:58

      I too have a sick child that has had to leave Newfoundland to go to other hospitals. Some in Canada and some in the States that have totalled 16 trips in all. I would lay down and dye for my children without batting an eyelash. That being said, there was one occasion that I could not go with my child for reasons beyond my control and it nearly killed me. I would NEVER judge another persons life, no matter what the circumstances, because I have no idea what they are going through or what in life brought them to where they are today. I do not feel the need to explain to you or to the people that judged me when I could not go with my child to the out of Province hospital. Not everyone's life is as easy as yours appears to be. .......See what I just did there? I judged your life on a small paragraph that you wrote. And yes, it was uncalled for but I was just trying to make a point. I hope your child is alive and well and always has the blessing of having her Mommy with her 24/7.

    • Jackie
      October 02, 2011 - 18:52

      MM and Proud Mother of Twins. I agree with you. If it was my child I would stay no matter the cost. My daughter was in hospital sick and they let me stay all night. I would not leave. I slept in the chair in her room. Something smells fishy about this Story/Mother. Yes it's very sad this child died... but why didn't her Mother stay if she was claiming she was still sick???????

  • Jason Clarke
    September 30, 2011 - 10:47

    There needs to be a full public inquiry into this tragedy, chaired by a judge with full powers to compel witnesses to testify. Mrs Miller is owed no less, and the people of this province need to know that CYFS and health services in Newfoundland are up to the job.

  • Robert
    September 30, 2011 - 10:40

    I dont care what happened that little girl needed her mother there with her. a 3 year old does not understand why her mother is not there especially when she is sick. The child was fretting and the social workers dont take that into consideration especially when she needed a serious operation......Are you kidding me!!!!!! What is wrong with our society.... Child molesters get nothing, murderers get suspended sentences, armed robbers get nothing, and you lose everything you got for killing a moose out of season. And yet a Mother cant be with her daughter when she is seriously ill and dies without her there. ABSOLUTELY HEARTLESS AND INHUMAN!!!!!!!! Thats the joke of a society we live in in this country. This just proves how screwed up we are. Nobody cares thats the problem. Yet if someone goes out tonight and catches a salmon out of season they lose everything they got. If a drunk driver goes out tonight and kills someone that person might get 2 years in jail depending on the judge but a mother cant get to see her dying daughter. Everyone involved in this fiasco I hope your conscience haunts you the rest of your life. I also realize there maybe more circumstances than we know but a child suffered in her last days on this earth without her mother and for that everyone involved in this tragedy thats all that matters you DISGUSTING people!!!!! You dont deserve to be called human beings!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Robert
    September 30, 2011 - 10:35

    I dont care what happened that little girl needed her mother there with her. a 3 year old does not understand why her mother is not there especially when she is sick. The child was fretting and the social workers dont take that into consideration especially when she needed a serious operation......Are you kidding me!!!!!! What is wrong with our society.... Child molesters get nothing, murderers get suspended sentences, armed robbers get nothing, and you lose everything you got for killing a moose out of season. And yet a Mother cant be with her daughter when she is seriously ill and dies without her there. ABSOLUTELY HEARTLESS AND INHUMAN!!!!!!!! Thats the joke of a society we live in in this country. This just proves how screwed up we are. Nobody cares thats the problem. Yet if someone goes out tonight and catches a salmon out of season they lose everything they got. If a drunk driver goes out tonight and kills someone that person might get 2 years in jail depending on the judge but a mother cant get to see her dying daughter. Everyone involved in this fiasco I hope your conscience haunts you the rest of your life. I also realize there maybe more circumstances than we know but a child suffered in her last days on this earth without her mother and for that everyone involved in this tragedy thats all that matters you DISGUSTING people!!!!! You dont deserve to be called human beings!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Barbra
    September 30, 2011 - 10:28

    As a social worker in Newfoundland, our first duty is to carry out policy. There is no second duty. Ethics? Only if they conform to policy.

  • christopher power
    September 30, 2011 - 10:20

    i'm stunned at the way this mother was treated all because of these newfoundland government and ontario government protocols. i can't believe how cold hearted... it makes me cry just thinking about what happened. her daughter was in oviouslly sick and the government's stance was to pust this mother out the door. try to imagine what that little girl's thoughts were, as she lay sick in bed and all alone. SHAME on the child protection services and the government as a whole. i strongly believe and feel that it was the government's fault that this tragety happened. SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!. and if the mother is reading these comments, i would like to... madam i sorry for what you went through. the government can't bring your little girl back but i hope that this situation really shakes the government up over this issue. and i hope that you are compensated greatly for what you had to go through. and because of this i WILL NOT vote for ANYONE in this election. because none of them deserve my vote. and in the future if any party wants my vote, i suggest that you take a good look at yourselves and at the government and fix what is wrong with this government. this situation could have been avoided, but it wasn't. once again madam i send you hugs and hopes that this problem is addressed and fixed right away.

  • Bobby
    September 30, 2011 - 10:19

    Would of slept on the sidewalk, hostel..whatever it took if this was my child. Wouldn't of gone hungry on $20.00 a day either, not eating very well but would of made due for the sake of my child.

  • John
    September 30, 2011 - 10:12

    While there are always 3 sides to every story, yours, mine and the truth, if CY&FS could afford to send a social worker to Toronto with at least 1 night in a hotel, to assist in bringing the child to a foster home and it seems, possibly to escort the mother home, or at least to the airport, they should have been able to ge the money to put her up in the Ronald MacDonald house or even a nearby motel that does long term rentals. Rules are meant to be guidance for normal situations; that means that sometimes they have to be bent or even occassionally broken. This is where common sense comes in and obviously in this case common sense wasn't used. Shame on CY&FS.

  • Not surprized
    September 30, 2011 - 10:08

    That's the way Child, Youth & Family Services roll, they care nothing for who they hurt & lie to. I have been dealing with them for years concerning a family member, have made numerous compliants and their answer was " Is not subtancial enough to remove the child". So I guess a child who's hungry, dirty, emotional disturbed has to deal with it, unless they are beaten and physically injured.....Any person who is affilated with CYFS is an imcompetent airhead !!!!!! All I have to say is KARMA .....And whoever made these choices for this child will get it back ten fold !!!! They could have had someone supervise the child and mother, so she didn't have to be without her Mommy !!! Have a heart !!!

  • Rod Lyver
    September 30, 2011 - 09:46

    How many inquiries and many investigations will be needed to fix the bureaucratic mess that is known as CYFS? How many children have suffered and will continue to suffer? How many parents have suffered and will continue to suffer? Is there anyone in charge but more importantly is anyone responsible? Come on Preimer, fix this mess once and for all.

  • Unthinkable
    September 30, 2011 - 09:46

    There are always two sides to every story but this situation is absolutely unthinkable and should never, never, never have played out the way it has! It is inexcusable and someone should be ashamed of themselves! The poor little darling there without her mother is heartbreaking and shameful no matter what CY&FS "policies" are! Has the Department of CY&FS not ever heard of "extenuation circumstances and compassion"! Absolutely unbelievable and shocking! Someone from CY&FS need to give some answers here and be held accountable for this child dying alone in another province, without her family (mother) present. I don't usually respond to news items, but this story is so shocking I can't seem to wrap my head around it! It is just inhumane and wrong!!! This story deserves public outrage for immediate changes in CY & FS policies so that no other child or family has to suffer through this anywhere in our country no matter what their income or social status.

  • Mr. T
    September 30, 2011 - 09:38

    What a horrible, tragic thing to happen to a child. Putting that much stress on a child in such a critical condition cannot be good. Especially a child with a pacemaker.

  • Beverley Rowe
    September 30, 2011 - 09:30

    This should NEVER have happened. How could any person separate a mother from her young, very sick child at such a critical time. It really amazes me that the minister can say her department did nothing wrong. While I realize that, normally, there are two sides to every story, compassion for the child/mother should have taken a bigger priority than the costs involved.

  • Unthinkable
    September 30, 2011 - 09:25

    There are always two sides to every story but this situation is absolutely unthinkable and should never, never, never have played out the way it has! It is inexcusable and someone should be ashamed of themselves! The poor little darling there without her mother is heartbreaking and shameful no matter what CY&FS "policies" are! Has the Department of CY&FS not ever heard of "extenuation circumstances and compassion"! Absolutely unbelievable and shocking! Someone from CY&FS need to give some answers here and be held accountable for this child dying alone in another province, without her family (mother) present. I don't usually respond to news items, but this story is so shocking I can't seem to wrap my head around it! It is just inhumane and wrong!!! This story deserves public outrage for immediate changes in CY & FS policies so that no other child or family has to suffer through this anywhere in our country no matter what their income or social status.

  • Santo
    September 30, 2011 - 09:25

    I have often defended this department, as I've witnessed first had the positive things that have been done for some children I know. However this story has left me sick. This woman did not abuse or neglect her daughter, from what the stroy said, the father was supposed to not see the child unsupervised, and a photo of the father and child promted this. I only hope this isn't all they went on. That mothe could have very well been in the room, or other room, or another family member, after all someone took the picture. The person who took this photo to child services, hope your happy. A sick, scared little girl was denied her mother. She died alone and scared, wondering where mommy was. And she still, even after death, has not been returned to her mommy. I do not know this family, but the pain on the face of the mother in this photo is real, and you have my deepest sympathies.

  • danz
    September 30, 2011 - 09:16

    My heart is broken .....somebody has to pay for the suffering and injustice done to this poor woman !..Where is JUSTICE !

    • Jack
      September 30, 2011 - 10:44

      The person who should pay for this injustice is the CY&FS Minister, Charlene Johnson. Even if Charlene was not responsible, under the law, as the CY&FS minister, she is vicariously liable for their actions, meaning she is responsible.

  • Michael
    September 30, 2011 - 08:59

    This is so very tragic at so many levels. I am deeply saddened the child could not get the medical help she needed closer to home.

  • Carol Ann Rogers
    September 30, 2011 - 08:56

    Regardless if NL Child Protection Services did or did not do anything wrong, a child died alone in a strange bed with no one to comfort her. Not one single person involved in this matter ever wanted that. So the department heads in both provinces should stop looking to shift blame and help this family heal. Another child is dead because the system did not protect them from harm. A three year old left with strangers when they are recovering from heart surgery... most three year old's would fuss if left with anyone they did not know, Common sense was missing from the decision making process. Yet again! We all still remember the lack of common sense decision that cost a little boy his life. Madam Minister Johnson you assured the people of this province that all the problems within the system were addressed and no other child would ever be put in harms way as a result of how the system functioned. The grandparents of that other little boy worked very hard to bring awareness to how the system of child protection in NL lacked common sense in their decision making. If you intend to send wards of the court into other provinces then draft a set of operating procedures to guide the foster parents, the nurses, the social workers, the social work assistants, the full team of individuals need to all be on the same page. Otherwise we will loose more children to a system that you Madam Minister Johnson have already announced was fixed, and dismiss this serious matter with the claim no one one the NL side of this problem has done anything wrong. That's not really going to help the grieving mother, sister, and brothers nor did it provide any comfort to Chancey Miller as she cried herself into exhausted sleep for the last time.

    • Donna
      September 30, 2011 - 19:12

      Well said, Carol Ann.

  • ranter
    September 30, 2011 - 08:45

    This is incomprehensible. the government have created a cloak of secrecy to protect themselves, not the children. This child was not protected - enough said. We should demand this department be disbanded in its current structure.

  • Denise
    September 30, 2011 - 08:42

    This story is heartbreaking. As a mom of two little girls, I can only feel pure sadness in the justice system. And no matter what they (the justice system) does to change policy to "fix" things, they can never bring back this darling child. I hope the mom finds some solice that her darling child is in heaven.

  • Gerald
    September 30, 2011 - 08:30

    What a heart breaking story! I really feel bad for this mother. All those involved in this case should be ashamed and feel remorse for what went on. It doesn't matter about politics, policies etc etc. Bottom line is a 3 year old child wanted her Mom and God only know what that poor little thing went through before she died. Heart breaking. Whatever the case may be protection wise, they could have had something in place so that the child's need and wants come first. Way to go Child Youth and Family Services!

  • hockeyfan
    September 30, 2011 - 08:05

    I for one am tired of the media putting this out there on display... This woman has sufferred enough, the story on the news should never of came on TV the woman was clearly too distraught to have an interview with... I sympathize with this lady and hopefully justice is served, leave her be in peace!

  • Dean
    September 30, 2011 - 08:04

    What an appalling and disgusting set of circumstances. No child, regardless of life circumstances, should ever go through what this child endured in her final weeks. It is no surprise that politicians are non-committal on making any commentary in this manner. After all, shipping people off to other places for medical treatment is part and parcel of our identity here. Is it any wonder the former Premier dodged our health care system and flew to Florida for his heart surgery? And the current Premier blasted the media for even so much as insinuating there was anything wrong with that? With all the taxes we pay here, with all the royalties we're supposedly making from our resources, you would think we would have a health care system that was the envy of the world. Instead, we have the status quo - send people out of the province, get them out of our site, and hope they don't come home in body bags. A little food for thought as politicians knock on your door in the upcoming weeks....

  • Dean
    September 30, 2011 - 08:02

    What an appalling and disgusting set of circumstances. No child, regardless of life circumstances, should ever go through what this child endured in her final weeks. It is no surprise that politicians are non-committal on making any commentary in this manner. After all, shipping people off to other places for medical treatment is part and parcel of our identity here. Is it any wonder the former Premier dodged our health care system and flew to Florida for his heart surgery? And the current Premier blasted the media for even so much as insinuating there was anything wrong with that? With all the taxes we pay here, with all the royalties we're supposedly making from our resources, you would think we would have a health care system that was the envy of the world. Instead, we have the status quo - send people out of the province, get them out of our site, and hope they don't come home in body bags. A little food for thought as politicians knock on your door in the upcoming weeks....

  • grant
    September 30, 2011 - 08:00

    Give it a rest. you cant fight child welfare. Read Derick O'Brien book, about child welfare, read about Zackery Turners case, and the Mount Cashel abuses, the list goes on and on. my deepest sympathy to the mother.

  • Jen
    September 30, 2011 - 07:56

    As sad as this story is, let me be the first to say that there are two sides to every story and I am thinking there is a lot more to this...at a certian point, money is not a factor and this woman chose to leave her child

    • chris power
      September 30, 2011 - 10:37

      everyone listen to yourselves... " two sides to this story and one even commented that she choose to leave? get the rocks out of your head. it is clearly written that she fought tooth and nail to saty, but she HAD NO choice but to leave. she don't have any money or resources to stay and she did not have any one to support her. the only support that she recieved was to jump on a airplane and go home with out her daughter or even knowing her daughter's health condition. the article even said that she begged the doctors to keep her child in hospital cause she was still sick. and ONLY a parent can feel this and not no government. i can see 2 sides to every story, one is grief and the other is spectulation by people who don't have any clue as to what this woman and daughter went through. shame on the government and shame on the people who wrote some of these comments. take a walk in her shoes and she how you all would feel.

  • PR
    September 30, 2011 - 07:56

    It's sad the child died but now it looks like somebody on social services is using the media to get what she can from govt. How can she afford a lawyer on social srevices? I suspect there is more to the story than what I am reading.

  • elaine miller
    September 30, 2011 - 07:52

    this is outrageous I hope Ms. Miller sues the basterds! Ill send funds to help, Just set it up! Can you imagine...just try if you will... if that was your child....

  • Lee
    September 30, 2011 - 07:35

    Darling little Chancey ! My heart breaks for her. She's God's precious angel now. However, concerning adults involved, something is just not right about all this; there's more to it. But the bottom line is the devastating consequences to this sweet innocent little girl.

    • Mary
      September 30, 2011 - 11:07

      So she wasn't supposed to be alone with her father, I don't think he was in Toronto with her, just her mom, all I can think of is, a tiny, sick, three year old girl, dying, and crying for her mother. So sad.

  • JP
    September 30, 2011 - 07:27

    While I feel terrible at the loss of this little girl and the mother's grief, don't forget that there are always two sides to a story, or more. CYFS can't discuss specific cases, however I can't help but wonder about why this little girl was removed in the first case. I could speculate, but it won't help bring back the little girl, and won't stop this moms grief!!! Please remember, Maryann Miller may have issues of her own that she's struggling to deal with, so I hope this doesn't put her over the edge!

    • Shelley Green
      September 30, 2011 - 10:33

      Absolutely disgusting, but i don't expect anything less from Child Protective Services. Power Trippers! I've seen some of their handi-work!

  • Annie
    September 30, 2011 - 07:27

    My heart goes out to this Mom and to think about the turmoil that Chancey went through in the last days of her life to be ripped away from her Mother, it breaks my heart. What were these social services workers thinking? How was this in the best interest of such a sick child?

  • Annie
    September 30, 2011 - 07:25

    My heart goes out to this Mom and to think about the turmoil that Chancey went through in the last days of her life to be ripped away from her Mother, it breaks my heart. What were these social services workers thinking? How was this in the best interest of such a sick child?

  • MM
    September 30, 2011 - 07:24

    My heart goes out to this little girl but why should we as taxpayers pay for her mother to stay in Toronto. I also have a child with a heart condition. I am a single mother of two children and I would do anything for them. I work day in and day out to support them to make sure that they have the basic every day things. There are days that I wish I could stay home with them but I can't. I work and work hard even for minimum wage to keep myself off the system. Mrs. Miller says she was given $20 a day for food and some days went hungry. Like hello how many people spend $20 a day on food. I work 12 hour days and I don't. I think government needs to step up in this province and get rid of the welfare system. There are lots of jobs out there even if they are for minimum wage!

    • Caroline
      September 30, 2011 - 10:21

      MM., you sound like a wonderful taxpayer... I mean mother. Your compassion is truly indicative of many Newfoundlanders. I'm wondering how, with two children, you're able to work twelve hours a day at a minimum wage job without resorting to the welfare system (by which I mean subsidized child care and/or subsidized public education)? Oh, and a couple more questions: where does it say she in receipt of social assistance, and why aren't you at work or taking care of your kids instead of bashing someone who is in a very difficult situation?

    • Michelle
      September 30, 2011 - 18:11

      Who says she is on welfare? When someone is sent out of the province for treatment of any kind I am assuming it is covered, and so it should be if the procedure can`t be done here! We are talking about CYFS not HRLE!

    • colin
      October 01, 2011 - 00:30

      It is sad to read some comments on here. I am a single father of a beautiful 5 year old girl. There are two sides to every story but we are not in the position that the little girl or her mothers was. So lets see one of our children on their death bed and someone telling you that your child is going to someonelses home. then put you're stupid comments on here. I came from a little town in newfoundland and I see the middle aged men on social assistance getting a house payed for them, and all they do is drink all day. Where is the justice in that. is that what social assistance is for. People need to grow up and realize how stupid the government policies are. It is the way it always has been and always will be.

  • Harvey
    September 30, 2011 - 07:22

    Ms. Johnson, if this story has any credibility, and I believe it does, somebody did something wrong. It's your job to get to the bottom of this. This is heart-rending...shameful!!!

  • Alan
    September 30, 2011 - 07:19

    My condolences to Ms. Miller. Business as usual for CYFS. "Guilty until proven innocent (beyond reasonable doubt)." "Our rules don't allow..." It is a bureaucracy. The biggest concern is covering their asses.

  • Ned Anderson
    September 30, 2011 - 07:18

    Although I have no children of my own ,.............I can not get my head around the appearance that the "system" turned it's back on this little angel. I know that IF it were me in that situation that I would do anything and everything in my power to make sure my child was taken care of properly. I think it is the government's responsibility to look after EVERY child as if they were their own. No innocent child deserves to think that no one cares about them !!

  • Bob
    September 30, 2011 - 07:08

    I feel terrible about this child's death and her familiy has my sympathies BUT...I have a hard time with the media giving a soapbox to this woman AND her lawyer in this case. They can basically present whatever they want as gospel and, due to the laws in place to protect their privacy, the govt cannot respond. How about asking the woman some questions about why the child was not in her custody to begin with? Is this her only child? What about the rest of her family? And what about the lawyer? Dopes he specialize in bashing CYFS?

    • Pam Frampton
      September 30, 2011 - 10:42

      The story clearly says why the child was placed with child protection and also that Ms. Miller has at least one other, older child. Pam Frampton, story editor

  • Julia
    September 30, 2011 - 07:07

    If all of the facts in this story are accurate, there is a serious problem in the way this family was treated by Child Youth and Family Services. I can imagine that living in a foster home, and being far away from home would be stressful for any child - let alone a child with a heart condition. There is nothing the government can do to remedy the pain/grief they have caused this woman - very sad!

  • Bill
    September 30, 2011 - 07:02

    Having read this article I cannot believe that Minister Johnson thinks CYFS did nothing wrong. What happened here is a travesty that obviously began here with CYFS putting the child in foster care. The following events were equally botched. I think Minister Johnson should let the Child Youth Advocate decide if CYFS did anything wrong.

  • murphy
    September 30, 2011 - 06:59

    wow this is so sadd , one thing i know is child protective services always abide with the wrong information , half of them are dummiiies and have no clue what there really doing , . many many people i know have had child services at there door , more then i can count on both of my hands , but they found nothing , i think they should start doing there jobs the right way and look after the kids who need them , . this is an eye opener!

  • frustred
    September 30, 2011 - 06:50

    As i am not in the same situation as Ms Miller, I have had some dealing with CYFS. I have gone through 4 social workers and every time it seems that i start to get somewhere another worker is thrown on the case. Who knows absolutely nothing about the file. They tell you they have to read the notes that is there but its never done. They tell you, you have to this and that and when you do it, its still not enough. How are you suppose to defend yourself and have them disappear if no matter what you do to please them its never enough. I know someone who has false accusations made against them, the worker told them the case would be closed and a year and a half later they find out the file is still open. Why weren't they notified? my a letter or a phone call. The frustration that they case to one family is absolutely crazy. They say that in order for you to have your children you have to do counseling and yet they don't provide you with any means of starting this counseling. They are the ones with all the resources and they do nothing to help!