- Snowboarder Dave Curtis takes a jump in Victoria Park Thursday as he enjoys a snow day following Thursday’s snowstorm.— Photo by Keith Gosse/The Telegram
- Snow Storm Nov. 24, 2011
- Snow Storm Nov. 24, 2011
- Snow Storm Nov. 24, 2011
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- Mount Pearlian
- - November 25, 2011 at 14:59:37
As usual, Mount Pearl snow-clearing was awesome!
- - November 25, 2011 at 14:41:34
I too live in Grande Prairie, AB. I too cannot believe the lack of snow plowing and preparation for winter roads here. They don't even salt or sand the roads, which leads to ice-rink roads that you are forced to drive on. Think about that, no salt...no sand....ice built up over ice continuously for months. There are daily accidents here, and this is the richest province in Canada! They just bragged about how much they had left over in their snow budget from last year in the local paper. How brazen! Last year, the ice ruts tore a hole in my transmission and damaged countless other vehicles. Additionally, they do not plow the roads until a few days after the snow fall here. You would not see that happen back in Newfoundland. I know there is suffering, but there isn't even a comparison for the road maintenance home, it's 110% better!
- Moe St.Cool
- - November 25, 2011 at 13:19:34
The next time there is a storm make sure you log on to the AVL tracking system on the City's website. I did numerous times and half the fleet was parked at the depot on Blackmarsh road. I also noticed to loader clearing sidestreets in Kilbride while there was not 1 machine in the whole westend of St.John's. Also there was a City Loader clearing snow in Bowring Park almost all day ...some answers need to be given for that bizarre procedure! That GPS tracking system tells the truth when the city is NOT.
- - November 25, 2011 at 12:51:29
The time for status quo in this city is over. How long can we continue to put up with the mismanagement, poor planning and small-town thinking that permeates city hall? For the past 5 years in particular, the region has seen unprecedented growth but the infrastructure remains 25 years behind the times. It's not only in snow clearing but we have a water system which is taxed to beyond capacity. The city's response to this is having a water ban rather than investigate increasing the water supply to keep up with the growth. The transportation system cannot deal with the traffic. The only response to traffic flow issues is to put up more traffic lights, thereby decreasing the flow. The public transit system is a farce. The buses are wider than most street lanes can accommodate yet they mostly travel virtually empty. There is far too much emphasis placed on growing the tax base than there is on providing adequate services to the tax base they already have. Concerning snow clearing, firstly, the plow drivers are only trained to move piles of rocks around a quarry which is no training for the intricacies of snow clearing and removal. The city snow clearing plan is simply push the snow into taxpayer's driveways and let them deal with it. I don't think that is something I should be paying for the privilege of doing. The snow clearing budget is cleaned out each year by a union that thrives on overtime. They accomplish this by doing a bad job several times rather than a good job once. Housing in new subdivisions are too closely packed to allow for areas where snow can be placed to get it out of the street and they simply have no idea how to clear the snow in a cul-du-sac. I actually laughed out loud when I heard on the news that the city was going to have meetings to discuss future planning. Why would you rely on the uninformed masses to instruct a group of incompetent burocrats how to do something as important as this? Contact a real city or cities and get some ideas from people who are trained and capable rather than fumble around in the dark as you have planned. It's time to get out of the 19th century and into the modern age of urban life. There are cities around North America that are doing good things with the space they have. See what they are doing and come up with a REAL plan for future growth rather than cram in as many houses as will fit in order to increase tax revenue yet remain unable to provide the services that are being paid for. City Hall needs an enema to clear out the waste and wasteful. Then we need to hire people who know what running a city takes and are able to do it. Every year it's the same thing with snow clearing. St. John's has been for 500 years so why is winter always a surprise? When you get 2 days notice that a storm is coming and you're still surprised that it comes, it's time to retire and let some new blood in.
- - November 25, 2011 at 12:36:51
No wonder the city is $600,00 over budget for snow clearing so far this year. When you see how often a plow comes up your street and buries you in, it makes you wonder how much flooging of hours goes on with these plow drivers. This city always had poor snow clearing and continuously gets worse. Nice to see how our tax dollars gets spent. St. John's city council needs a complete over haul, starting with Paul Mackey.
- - November 25, 2011 at 12:36:48
The City is just not prepared to deal with winter. The snowclearing budget is inadequate and the number of pieces of equipment is insufficient to meet the demand. The City has expanded exponentially in terms of the number of new streets and arterial roads but the amount of equipment to service the demand has fallen behind. And like many of the other commenters to this site I am getting a little tired of Paul Mackey attempting to rationalize the poor service. The service is just not acceptable.
- - November 25, 2011 at 11:49:41
Who sets these budgets? Every year we hear how much they have gone over- well one would think that if EVERY SINGLE YEAR you go over budget there must be something wrong with the budget process- shouldn't the numbers change since you know they are realistic. You could even take out any years where we have an excessive amount of snow- but to be over budget before the snow even starts-shouldn't the budget have been looked at again? This is Newfoundland- its November! snow is not unheard of.... we do have some previous experience
- Kara Moss
- - November 25, 2011 at 11:34:28
Thanks for this great story! I'm a NLder living in Alberta and I love reading the news from home. The one thing I wanted to comment on was the response time of the plows. My husband and I live in Grande Prairie AB and we often get large snowfalls like home in NL. We rarely see a plow, ever. This is a city the size of Corner Brook and the fastest I've seen a plow come out after a snowfall is four days after the snow has fallen. Also, they plow the snow to the middle of the roads here and leave it there so there's a huge mountain of snow in the middle of the street and people can hardly pass through. I miss home everyday, as well as the timely manner in which things such things as snow clearing gets done. Be thankful my fellow Newfoundlanders, you have it much better than Alberta and probably many other provinces. Kara Moss
- - November 25, 2011 at 11:26:44
I don't care about the budget. it's no excuse for poor management. Just do your job and clean the streets in a timely manner. Is it to much to ask? Get your priorities in order Doc.
- - November 25, 2011 at 11:16:04
I used to clear son on runways in the high Arctic every year at different locations, we had everything prepaired, and we didnt have a budget as such because we knew it was going to snow and blow and drift. Every year Mr Mackey comes on and is suprised that we had that much snow, suprised some people never had winter tires on, the budget this and the budget that. He is suprised about the water not draining from the drains. Iam going to help him out this year by saying that there is going to be more snow and along with it plugged drains, traffic, freezing rain, power outages.
- - November 25, 2011 at 10:50:26
Court Jester O'Keefe stated on TV news that they had 20 plows and 20 trunks with plows on the road. No one asked if this was enough for a City(?) this size, but that's OK if they had they would probably have excepted any answer without question anyway. The news media?
- - November 25, 2011 at 10:29:26
the snow began around 1 am and at 5 am as I was making my way to the airport there not a plow insight. The taxi driver said she had not seen a plow for the last 4 hours. Givewn the high trafiic going to the airport at 4 am to 6 am there was no plow in the area. To say the storm presented challeges is a cop out. This storm was predicted for two days. Crews should have been dispatched as soon as the snow began. There was no traffic on the roads until 7 am. That is 7 hours after the snow began, Mr. Mackey you need to wake up and stop making excuses for poor management
- - November 25, 2011 at 09:42:31
While yesterday's snowfall was a seasonal record the city's street clearing efforts also hit a milestone. It had to be the worst effort ever committed to clearing our streets. I am sick and tired of hearing Mackey make excuse after excuse as to why they weren't ready or how they are over budget, or the rush hour traffic or any number of other reason's why the snow clearing in this city sucks and gets worse every year. The public works division at city hall has had no foresight and cannot now effectively deal with the growth our city has undergone. Our streets cannot accomodate the traffic we have and the city no longer has the ability to provide even a minimal level of the most basic public services. As tax payers we derserve far better.