- Allada Bushut
- June 04, 2014 - 00:11
So, if my car was robbed and someone took my wallet and ID.... They try to use it downtown, and my information gets scanned? So if I'm down with my new legit ID... I'm basically screwed? Instead of paying all this money for the system...Why not train bouncers more methods to detect if someone is using a fake ID...
- Allada Bushut
- June 04, 2014 - 00:08
So, if my car was robbed and someone took my wallet and ID.... They try to use it downtown, and my information gets scanned? So if I'm down with my new legit ID... I'm basically screwed? Instead of paying all this money for the system...Why not train bouncers more methods to detect if someone is using a fake ID... You can scan an ID, but if the bouncer assumes the person in the picture is correct, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? But I'm glad the George Street association flew to Vegas to investigate systems useful in NL, (24hr Casino's and bars)) and city taxes may not have paid for the trip, but all bars on George contribute to this fund that paid for a trip to vegas!!! Money well spent! So what else ya got besides Scanners? That can not be it??? How about having some cops walking the streets instead of driving up them every 30 min.
- March 18, 2012 - 19:29
I hope someone from this association reads this before you encourage any of your partners to buy these services, but every court in the country that has been petitioned to ban these systems by individuals who claim invasion of privacy has sided with the complaintant. BC and Alberta has ruled that our new privacy law makes it illigal to use any device to scan and or store a patrons personal information. It has not been challenged up to the supreme court at this time due to no district challenging a provincial court ruling on this issue. Look into it before you start buying these systems. I can promise you will find yourself in court on the first card that is demanded to be swiped. Get a lawyer to look into it. You will loose. Money too.
- NO BUSSES
- March 18, 2012 - 19:00
There are those who are not fit to walk cause they drink too much, I hope no one runs them over or they collapse while they are walking from the bus stop to their houses. Then have the young ladies walk by themselves from the bus stop to their house, just wait for a sicko to park next to the bus stop to wait for a victim. Then you have the quiet neighbourhoods being aroused as the drunks get off the bus to walk through on the way home. Many "patrons" hang out taxis (or not hang out) and throw up. Many urinate (male or female) all over George Street poles, cans, buildings, and everything else. Many eat in taxis and leave pizza trays and fries and gravy behind. I can only image what a state the busses and walking routes would be in, not fit. There is no problem with taxis downtown, so what if they have to wait 30 - 60 minutes for a taxi to get to them, they will be doing the same for a bus. Those "patrons" calling for buses are just wants to save the price of a beer off the price on their ride home so they can dirnk more. Save the George Street mess for the taxis and don't spread the noise and staggers in residential areas.
- Trump Or Monkey
- March 18, 2012 - 08:59
Just imagiane how rowdy,crowded and disgusting a bus from George Street would be.It would end up being like a party bus.People would be continuing the party on the way home.
- Trump Or Monkey
- March 18, 2012 - 08:53
Bahahhaha This was nothing more than a free trip for the George Street association to Vegas, at the expense of tax payers likely.Scanning cards and transmitting it to other bars.Sounds like science fiction.Vip cards for the bar scene is laughable.Keep up the good work City Of St.John's.This is the crap they waste money on all while O'keefe says my property taxes my increase by 2-300%.What a joke!
- March 18, 2012 - 15:44
its not city tax that payed for this trip!~
- March 18, 2012 - 08:36
The bouncer sees your address either way when they ID you so why not scan it. I doubt they keep your address or anything else on file that's personnal they're mostly going to be looking at your picture and wether or not you got kicked out of the bar or if the ID was already turned away at another bar. Bars are already allowed to take your ID if they suspect identity theft so why not have an electronic record of it? It saves time in the bar lines because there wont be as many people arguing with the bouncer, and it will majorly cut down on the underage people.
- Devil's Advocate
- March 18, 2012 - 08:08
"...Scanning ID's is the norm in a lot of places" Yeah, like 1930s Germany. Ihre Papiere Bitte. Our forefathers gave their lives to stop crap like this and most of you people just swallow it up under the guise of safety.
- March 18, 2012 - 05:58
A few buses at night would solve the transportation problem easily enough. You can even paint the buses and call them "The George Street Express" as part of a branding campaign. It would be especially useful on cold or rainy nights (most nights!). As for warm summer nights, I used to walk home to Kilbride or Cowan Heights.
- March 17, 2012 - 18:46
@shane. Theres a big difference between a police officer getting your personal info and a guy who owns a bar getting and storing it. There are major privacy and identity theft issues here. Under privacy legislation a business owner is only allowed to request and store information that is necessary to the service they are providing. I don't see why a bar owner needs my address on file.
- March 18, 2012 - 20:57
There are major privacy and identity theft issues here? There are identity theft issues without this system, if a 16 year old enters a bar with 'John Doe's' ID then THAT is identity theft. The under ager is stealing the identity of somebody else to enter a bar.
- March 17, 2012 - 16:19
Nate, prohibition is not the answer...
- Nasty Nate
- March 17, 2012 - 12:10
Simple answer to this problem - Prohibition. Look at all the social and economic issues that would solve in one sweep. But the drunks love to have everyone else pay for their mistakes, so just keep on raping us and raising taxes to pay for a few. Make sense.
- Carol Ann Rogers
- March 18, 2012 - 08:40
Your are entitled toyoru opinion but I would ask you choose your wording better, raping, was not a good choice. Safety is everyone's concern. A bus service past 11:00 would be most beneficial.
- Help me drink and provide me a bus
- March 18, 2012 - 19:04
Yup, they want their drunken sprees paid for by the taxpayers - busses!
- March 17, 2012 - 11:31
A bus service would be a great idea..... would only need a few buses leaving at 2am and 3am on Friday and Saturday nights going to the major spots in town, charge everyone 2 bucks a pop to get on the bus. Would save the patrons a lot of money and would meet the goal of solving the taxi problem. People would enjoy down-town St. John's a lot more often if it didn't cost $20-25 each way from Cowan Heights.
- March 17, 2012 - 10:26
@ noy likely i guess i can use the same excuse if i ever get pulled over by a rnc/rcmp officer ... u want my driver's license? not likely! im a legal driver and with insurance and thats all you need to know and you dont need my personal info lol
- March 17, 2012 - 11:32
The RNC/ RCMP have the legal right to check your driver's licence. Bar owners have the right to examine your ID to see if you are of legal age to enter. What is their legal right to collect and store your personal information? With identity theft being what it is, do you really trust the average bar owner/manager/doorman to keep that recorded image of your ID safe?
- March 18, 2012 - 20:51
@ Steve it was a joke! Stop being so serious. Although if you want to be that way I guess I'll have to reply. The bar owners will simply be keeping a list of names who enter in and out the bar. The orange store's in the city have already began scanning ID's. The most personal information on an ID is your name, dob, address (which is not always correct) and your drivers class, if those things are personal to you than perhaps you shouldn't go out to a night club.
- not likely
- March 17, 2012 - 07:56
scanning my Id to enter a club, not likely. Im legal age thats all that matters, dont need my personal info scanned.
- March 17, 2012 - 08:56
To "Not Likely"... you know your age doesn't mean everybody else does....
- March 17, 2012 - 09:38
Scanning ID's is the norm in a lot of places - I first saw this in Winnipeg several years ago. All the big bars there scanned your ids .... I have seen it done in a lot of places since. The device takes an image of your ID and recorded your face while entering. It was a pretty cool system. If the patrons want to enter they will abide - if not there are lots of other establishments they can go too! Just as a side note ID's are not just for verifying age :)
- March 17, 2012 - 12:00
Then it's not likely you'll get in !!!!