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  • PETER
    March 25, 2012 - 09:04

    To UMM and Parking, it seems you missed the point altogether. Those zones are for people who are disabled, not for you based on some sort of technicality. Why don't people just respect them, not park and fight on a technicality, your total ignorance and lack of respect is showing. Get it? Don't park there, if you do you deserve a ticket regardless of signage or measurements, if it's blue or signage is there, just don't park there, have respect for what it is intended for.

    • Mens Rea
      March 27, 2012 - 16:12

      The other point is that the spots shoudl be uniform to avoid people from accidentally parking and getting tickets. All wider spots are blue spots. If I see a spot that is not wider, then I will assume I should be able to park there because a non-wider blue spot will just blend in with the surroundings. Blue spots should have a sign. If I do not see a sign, then I wil park there because the paint on the pavement could be worn off or covered with snow. In the principals of justice there must be "actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea" or "the act does not make a person guilty unless the mind is also guilty". How can I be guilty if I do not know what I am doing is wrong, ie a blue spot does not scream "blue spot" to me when I park there because it does not fit the legal discription of a blue spot.

  • Dee
    March 24, 2012 - 15:29

    Yes I agree fine these people $1000.00 if you have too,but $25.00 for an expired meter that's a bit much,what used to be 15 minutes for 25 cent now it's only 12 minutes for a quarter so watch that folks,I brought my mother down tonthe pass port office asyou can imagine trying to get a blue zone,a government business and no where to park,I did get a wheel chair spot just up the road from the building which was the closest to there anyway,time I got my mother out of the car,up the road,on the elevator,keep in mind a government building to have her pass port renewed I had 20minutes gone on the meter plus another 20 minutes back,so that's just 40 minutes gone just to travel to an office,do something put your pass port office else where.

  • Umm City Police Enforcing Provincial Laws Wha
    March 24, 2012 - 15:04

    So, the City of St. John's parking tickets say "(Car).... (location).... thereby committing the following offence under the by-law (blank) section (blank)." Therefore, the City only tickets under the St. John's By-laws because the ticket has no mention of the Highway Traffic Act. So, if I get a ticket and challenge it, it should be dismissed if the spot has paint but no sign because I am being charged under the By-laws and a new ticket with a new charge should be written under the Highway Traffic Act. If they actually do charge me under the Highway Traffic Act it might be a cheaper ticket. But, would being charged for the same alleged offence under two separate sets of laws be double jeopardy and not allowed.

  • Parking with a measure tape
    March 24, 2012 - 14:55

    Singage or not, there are still another questions on measurements. St. John's Ticketing By-Law says that a disabled spot must have a sign with no size requirements on the spot. The Provincial Buildings Accessibility Act (grandfather exempts pre-1981) Regulations say that they must be 2400 millimeters (7.87 feet) wide with a 1500 millimeter wide adjacent no parking access aisle to allow for easy movement of accessibility devices. The Provincial Highway Traffic Act Regulations say that the spots must be 3900 millimeters wide including the 1500 millimeter wide aisle. So, it seems that you should be able to park without a permit if: 1) It is a pre-1981 spot and is less than 3900 millimeters. 2) It is a post-1981 spot and is less than 2400 millimeter and/or does not contain a specially marked "no parking" 1500 millimeter access aisle. because by definition, these spots are technically not mobility impaired spots.