- Audrey Goodyear
- December 05, 2012 - 19:27
Is there a book published that I could purchase?
- Bob Hollett
- April 28, 2012 - 19:54
Was there ever a follow up on the baby. It would be Interesting to see what happened there to him or her, and decendants.
- Mark Escorcia
- April 12, 2012 - 04:28
It is bittersweet to see that after all this time,a wrongful conviction was proven and this is a relief for the Snow family-my distant relatives.My mother recently told me about the story of how someone on my father's side of the family was convicted of a murder and hanged,but she couldn't remember the nameThis she got from the aforementioned family tree book the late Gerard Snow,Mary''s father,wrote.So I Googled and came across this article in my search.Now I can tell my mother about this article to bring a happy ending to it all.
- DON II
- April 01, 2012 - 21:28
To RodII: I do not tar everyone with my criticisms at all as there are many lawyers, Judges, police and jurors who try their best to make the right decisions. However, there are many more who do not! In the course of my career I have witnessed the so called justice system in Newfoundland at work and I did not like what I saw. Efforts to change the justice system in Newfoundland have been resisted for years and unethical practices continue in open court and many more are covered up behind closed doors! My reference to the justice system in Mississippi is not based on hearsay at all. Have you seen the movie "Mississippi burning" which is based on well documented fact? Have you read the numerous cases involving bigotry and prejudice in the Courts in Mississippi? In the early 1960's, President John F. Kennedy was forced to send a large armed force made up of the US Marshall Service and US Army troops to Mississippi to enforce the orders of the US Supreme Court when local Courts, politicians and police refused to do so. There is no hearsay involved regarding the existence of an incompetent, corrupt, unethical or prejudicial legal system being in operation in Mississippi or in Newfoundland my friend!
- Nellie P. Strowbridge
- March 31, 2012 - 14:54
I hope those who see Catherine as guilty have read my novel Catherine Snow. I think they will get a different perspective. I spent a long time researching her story and the justice system of the day. Also, go to the archives. It takes digging to get to the truth.
- April 01, 2012 - 11:27
Sorry Nellie, is your book a novel or non-fiction? I haven't read it, but I assumed it was non-fiction until you just said novel. Historical documents might give me a different perspective, but a novel wouldn't. How can a person separate truth from the writer's creative additions?
- Susan Oliver
- May 08, 2014 - 08:34
I just finished reading the book. An incredible book. Such a sad ending for a beautifully written lady. A brutal life lived by early settlers, especially difficult when you have no social, political or religious power.
- The case is also significant
- March 31, 2012 - 13:35
The case is also significant in that the people prevented the bodies from being gibbeted. There was a lot of public disgust for the despicable act of gibbeting as was commonly ordered by magistrates in those days; according to an article online entitled “Collective Action In Outport Nfld: A Case Study from the 1830’s” by Linda Little. Apparently, a large crowd felt victorious in that they took possession of the bodies and held the burial themselves thus preventing the indecent act of gibbeting. And so the case may have set precedence in NfLd justice in that way as well.
- April 01, 2012 - 11:28
It's my understanding, from reading archival documents from the time, that the men's bodies' were gibbeted; only Catherine's wasn't.
- Fred from Brigus
- March 31, 2012 - 12:42
I grew up in Clarkes Beach right next door to Salmon Cove. I have always been a history buff as was my dad who told me many a story of the history of the area and this is the first time I've heard of this story. Quite interesting. There are many Snow families in the area so I sure some of the are descendants of Catherine.
- March 31, 2012 - 12:37
Talk about living in the past. Geez!
- March 31, 2012 - 12:07
WOW, DONII, your tarring everyone with that brush, please be more careful. you must have worked many years in the NL justice system to to have so much knowledge which you convey so eloquintly, but to repeat some thing you heard about Mississippi is only hear-say, I think that the best thing we can all do is apologize for mistakes made in the past and try to do better in the future, finger pointing gets us no-where.
- March 31, 2012 - 11:52
To Karen - the Seamus O'Regan who was judge in the mock trial is the father of the TV host. I, for one, am glad we no longer have a death penalty. It does nothing to assuage the heartbreak caused by murder and provides no hope for the accused in the event of a miscarriage of justice. What a terrible burden and grief is brought upon jurors should the miscarriage be proven after an innocent has been put to death. Our thoughts need only reflect back 2000 years to One also falsely accused and know the guilt is ours.
- March 31, 2012 - 11:00
Revisiting this case shows us that our justice system has moved forward in some ways, and has moved backward in other ways. Catherine Snow may not have been found guilty using today's standard of proof. And if she were found guilty, she would not have been subject to the death penalty (although one could argue whether this is a good thing or not). But if today's legal status and treatment of unborn children had existed in Catherine Snow's day, she would have been hung before her son was born (since there is no legal basis for protecting unborn babies, at any stage of development, in Canada today). If today's attitude toward unborn children had prevailed then, CNN anchor Mary Snow and her family would not exist.
- April 26, 2012 - 11:11
Lane, you are presuming that Mary was descended from the child born before she was hung. She did have children before this. Do we know if her last child was a boy? Maybe we will have to wait for her book to find out her antecedant.
- DON II
- March 31, 2012 - 09:39
I am sure that the late Catherine Snow would be very proud if she could have known that her descendants would become so successful in the United States of America. A fate which would have surely been denied to them if they had remained in Newfoundland! With regard to the trial of 1834, it would be very interesting to know if evidence had been adduced as to who was the real father of the baby that Catherine Snow had delivered before she was hanged. That fact may have shed light on why John Snow was murdered and by whom. Regardless or Catherine Snow's guilt or innocence, the problems with Newfoundland justice remain since that trial in 1834. The risk of being railroaded and unjustly convicted in a Newfoundland Court is very high. The competence, bias and prejudice of Police, Lawyers and Judges has always been very suspect in Newfoundland. I have heard the justice system in Newfoundland compared with that of the State of Mississippi where Courts regularly railroaded poor Whites and Black defendants. The fallibility of juries which are comprised of ill informed and prejudiced local people who would not know the difference between a habeas corpus and a mia culpa. Depending on juries, in whose hands an accused fate, freedom and fortune rests, to render a proper verdict is a very frightening prospect indeed! Most modern juries are influenced by media and TV shows like CSI which solve crimes in an hour using state of the art technology. The jurors get talked at way over their heads by slick lawyers and prejudicial judges who can easily manipulate the outcome of any trial. Even appeals in Newfoundland are a fait accompli and the verdict is usually a foregone conclusion. Newfoundland is famous for its sham trials. Most judges are very reluctant to embarrass their fellow Judges by overturning the lower Court Judges decision. The prevailing attitude in Newfoundland is: "Guilty...what's the charge?"
- September 27, 2013 - 21:21
DonII: You write as if you were an intelligent person, when in fact, your comments reveal you to be more of an ignoramus. When you write "I am sure that the late Catherine Snow would be very proud if she could have known that her descendants would become so successful in the United States of America. A fate which would have surely been denied to them if they had remained in Newfoundland!"... are you saying her descendants could not and would not have been successful if they had remained in Newfoundland? If their intellect and ambition and desire led to success in the oh-so-wonderful US of A, then I am sure they would have used their talents to be as successful in Newfoundland. But it all depends on how one defines success: maybe if they had stayed in Newfoundland, they would live by a different definition of success than the one you hold, and would have used their brains and/or brawn to carve a life of success on their own terms. You sound like you have a real chip on your shoulder. Ugh!
- March 31, 2012 - 09:13
Good play on the heartstrings,bye's.I salutes ya!I myself finds er guilty!!
- Karen Finn
- March 31, 2012 - 09:13
This is very intersting and i enjoyed reading about this ....the article commented on a mock trial on Thursday ...is this something that will be on CBC perhaps ..do you have any more details ...would love to see this mock trial especially with Seamus O'Regan ..please let me know ..thank you
- cynthia Stevenson
- March 31, 2012 - 09:05
My ancestors also came from the Salmon Cove across from Port de Grave area. There is to this day along the shore of Salmon Cove near the point a cove called Stake Cove or sometimes Stake Hole. I was told about 50 years ago that the place got it's name because a man locally known as Irish John Snow was murdered there with a Stake Maul. Since that time I learned that the local story is not the official one. However people in the area believe that there is blood on the rock that juts outinto the sea. There is red pigmentation in the rock. By the way this is a very beautiful area,today accessible by boat although It can be found going through the community pasture but it is also dangerous because in that cove which is almost cave like there is a hole in the surface of the earth if you go in there in boat and look up it can easily be seen.My ancestors said that John Snow lived in that area. In the Springtime before the grass starts to grow one can see foundations of homes and rock walls. Very Scenic near Salmon Cove Point, an area known locally as the Plain, Rip Raps and Cupids. Today Salmon Cove across from Port de Grave is in the community of South River. Hope this can get to the descendants of John and Catherine Snow.
- March 31, 2012 - 08:57
I would agree with the decision that she probably did not murder her husband. However, from what was presented she may very well have been an accessory to murder. "Maybe" she did not deserve to die but innocent she was not.
- May 27, 2014 - 20:37
The sad part is all of this ,whether guilty or not,is the way the the Irish were looked upon by the English as they were in Ireland. Even the church,knowing the history of the basilica and Bishop Fleming's hand in building it. I went to catholic school in St. John's in the '50's. My catholic mother married a Protestant. I suffered at the hands of the church,the good nuns for it,even though raised catholic .These Good righteous people of God condemned without proof as well as the judges. All in all ,even today ,MONEY TALKS. Can't get to heaven without it, the mafia know that one,lol.