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  • Dee
    April 20, 2012 - 20:58

    I agree completely. Reports of ice on the deck could have been ice off the rigging. The decks of the Titanic was some 80 feet above the surface and even the lookouts said it didn't appear to be that high. People not accustomed to ice will call pan ice "ice bergs," so once everyone else was saying iceberg, they just said the same thing. And Tim Matlin's investigations into cold water mirage prove that it would have been impossible to see the berg or ice because the horizon was artificially above where it was in actuality. Another documentary this week also determined that the large amount of slag in the rivets meant it took less than 10,000 lbs of pressure to pop them. Pan ice can do that. A berg would have torn the side off with millions of pounds of pressure. And finally, the damage found was exactly what you'd expect from pan ice...the "morse code" pattern down the side, not a gash. Good on you, Mr. Collins.

  • Bill Morrison
    April 16, 2012 - 11:57

    did you guys speak with James Cameron?

  • Kent
    April 13, 2012 - 08:25

    The BBC website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/titanic/) has several archived audio accounts from both passengers and crew of the Titantic. One survivor, who was about 20 yrs old at the time, said that after the collsion she could see the iceberg next to the ship. She also said that there were chunks of ice which had fallen onto the decks of the Titantic after it had collided with the iceberg.