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Impact of health cuts unclear: unions

Newfoundland and Labrador Nurses’ Union president Debbie Forward reacts Tuesday to the announcement of cuts equivalent to approximately 550 full-time positions at Eastern Health. Forward said her biggest concern is nurses may be expected to do more with less, increasing an already heavy workload. — Photo by Gary Hebbard/The Telegram

Newfoundland and Labrador Nurses’ Union president Debbie Forward reacts Tuesday to the announcement of cuts equivalent to approximately 550 full-time positions at Eastern Health. Forward said her biggest concern is nurses may be expected to do more...

Published on May 30, 2012
Published on May 30, 2012
Colin MacLean, Andrew Robinson and James McLeod  RSS Feed

More information needed; effect on jobs unknown, labour leaders say

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Newfoundland and Labrador Nurses , The Newfoundland and Labrador Association of Public and Private Employees , Democrats

The top brass at Eastern Health met with union leaders, politicians and journalists Tuesday to outline cutbacks it says will result in $43 million in savings.

According to Eastern Health CEO Vickie Kaminski these cuts are necessary so it can stabilize its financial footing. Eastern Health has had deficits over the past four years totalling $82 million.

So it has decided to cut back or shake up a wide range of services, everything from who provides non-patient food to hours available to temporary employees.

So what exactly does this mean for Eastern Health staff? Nobody seems to know for sure — yet.

Union leaders expressed a mixture of concern and confusion Tuesday when speaking with the media while politicians spent part of the day arguing about whether or not the cuts would affect the quality of service.

Debbie Forward, president of the Newfoundland and Labrador Nurses’ Union, told reporters she needs more information from Eastern Health before she will have a solid understanding of the cuts, and what they mean for union members.

There was one bright spot in the announcement.

“We want to reassure our members that there will be no layoff of permanent staff,” said Forward.

“That is across the board for Eastern Health. I know there is tremendous amount of anxiety right now within the workforce around all these announcements and what that means. So, no permanent jobs will be affected,” she said.

But as far as the nurses’ union in concerned that’s where the good news from yesterday’s meetings ends.

Forward said she was told Eastern Health expects to cut the working hour equivalent of 115 registered nursing positions.

What exactly that means is unclear.

“We have no idea where those 115 positions are coming from, per say. So I need more information in that regard,” said Forward.

“But what I know from talking to my members is that they are flat out right now. And what they don’t want to hear today is to be told that they are going to have to do more with less. Because they know they are struggling in many areas to provide safe, quality, care to their patients based on the sector that they’re working in.

“So anytime I hear ‘we’re going to take so many nursing hours out of the system,’ I’m concerned about what that means to patient care ... and secondly what that means for registered nurse workload.”

Those concerns were shared by The Newfoundland and Labrador Association of Public and Private Employees. NAPE represents more than 5,550 Eastern Health workers.

Union president Carol Furlong told media she was anxious when she walked into Tuesday morning’s meeting with Kaminski.

Like Forward, Furlong was left wanting more concrete facts.

“We still don’t have all of the information that we will need for our members,” she said. “The people who are temporary employees, some of them will have questions for us that we can’t answer at this point, because we don’t know where some people will be redeployed, for example, or whose job may be reduced in hours, or what other measures might be taken at a particular site or with a particular individual.”

The fact permanent employees will not lose their jobs as a result of Tuesday’s announcement did soften the blow somewhat for Furlong. However, she said temporary employees working full-time hours will face new uncertainties.

“For that group, it certainly will be a very difficult and stressful time.”

Overall, Furlong does not anticipate the cuts will benefit the health-care system.

“But if you’re taking positions out of the system, whether it be through attrition or whatever, that means they’re going to eliminate services, and it’s going to make the work life for individuals in the health-care system very difficult. … You can’t eliminate, regardless of how you do that, and expect the services are going to continue at a certain level that is acceptable to the people of the province.”

Liberal Leader Dwight Ball mirrored those concerns in the House of Assembly.

“Right now, if you have a patient who needs constant care, there is actually a person there supplying that,” Ball said to Health Minister Susan Sullivan during question period.

“We know that is one area that they are looking at reducing right now.”

Sullivan repeatedly emphasized the fact that no full-time permanent employees are getting laid off, and that the government doesn’t believe that services will change.

“The commitment and the resolve that Eastern Health has made is the very same commitment that the Premier has made,” she said. “There will be no reduction to programs; there will be no reduction to services. There will be no facilities closed in Eastern Health as a result of a program that they have undertaken on their own, Mr. Speaker, absolutely no reduction whatsoever.”

Sullivan also made it clear that what’s going on at Eastern Health now will also take place at the province’s other three health authorities in the future.

The goal, she said, is to use benchmarks from health-care systems in other parts of the country to ensure that the province isn’t paying more for the same services.

“With the other three regional health-care authorities, I’ve already had some discussions with the CEOs,” she said. “They’ve been looking for efficiencies and do that on a regular basis. We will now look in a more efficient manner by using this benchmarking process.”

NDP Leader Lorraine Michael said as far as she’s concerned, the government should be more aggressively reviewing all four health care authorities, especially when it comes to the ways that they work together.

New Democrats have been calling for a full, independent review of the health-care system for years.

“I think there’s a whole lot of inefficiencies because of the lack of co-ordination among authorities,” Michael said. “Also that’s why I think there has to be an external body to work with the four authorities to look at it from the total perspective.”

Eastern Health is expected to release further details on the rollout of these changes in the coming weeks and months. All of the changes are expected to take more than two years to complete.

 

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    Marie
    - June 3, 2012 at 15:13:49

    The head of Eastern Health is a very smart lady, or is this a magic act. She is getting everyone to watch one hand while the other hand is doing something else. She throws out a lot of numbers that got people picking on each other instead of paying attention to what she is really doing. Bringing up the Tim Horton's situation was a nice decoy. People have lost site to the fact that jobs are being lost. When people retire they are not being replaced. Those people were doing a job. Now who is going to do those jobs. They are going to throw it on the backs of those who keep are hospitals clean, keep the linen clean, and our food service workers. Does she really think she is going to save that much money off these peoples backs. As for Tim Horton's, its a billion dollar industry. Where have you ever head of a Tim Hortion's losing money. Please stop blaming the employees. Even if they were getting paid $28/hr (which they are not) it still should have been making money. I have worked in the fast food industry and those people are overworked and underpaid. Tim Hortons could be paying there employees a lot more and still be making millions. Between the EI changes and Eastern health cuts politicians have put working people against working people.

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    Sammy
    - May 30, 2012 at 14:12:18

    I just submitted a comment earlier, now I also realize there is gross inefficiency in the system. Probably to many mannagers doing little but protecting their positions, duplication in many area, to much paper work. The workers have legimate complaints, a complete overhaul of the system needed, but if that is mentioned, the unions circle the wagons and managers circle their wagons and the government can do little.

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    Bill
    - May 30, 2012 at 13:59:13

    Wait til Lorraine gets an INDEPENDENT review of the health care system! Anyone who works in these centers can tell you that there is money being wasted. I work with Western health and i can certainly see lots of changes that can take place. Should keep people on their toes for the next few months.

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    Frank M
    - May 30, 2012 at 11:03:46

    Ms. Forward has failed to note that the Tim Horton's workers at the Health Sciences Centre (Eastern Health employees) salaries rival or exceed those of some nurses in her union.

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      John
      - May 30, 2012 at 12:48:36

      Nurses start at $60k, these workers earn $40k. I don't disagree $40k is overpaid for pouring coffee, or nurses don't deserve their pay scales, but get your facts straight.

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      frontlinecps
      - May 30, 2012 at 16:04:36

      Dear Frank, P L E A S E get your facts straight do you believe everything you read if that is the case the world is going to end right now.tims works dont come close to nurses salaries just ask your sourse V I C K I E

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      Mike
      - May 31, 2012 at 10:56:53

      My wife is a first year nurse and is on casual basis as she cannot get a full time job in St. John's. She makes no where near 60 thousand, more like half of that. So Frank's comment is true because not everyone gets full time status. Those are the facts.

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      Frank M
      - May 31, 2012 at 11:44:44

      I did qualify my remark by stating "some nurses". My point was there are members in the NL Nurses Union who only receive call-in casual hours, particularly outside the Avalon. These nurses pay union dues and deserve mention when cuts are coming to all health authorities in the province. Many earn less than the HSC Tim Horton's workers and Ms. Forward should have recognized that point when dealing with Vicki Kaminski.

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    Sally
    - May 30, 2012 at 10:52:05

    Constant observation usually happens when a person is in state that is unsafe to him or herself, or to others...so if 1 staffmember is watching 3 constants and one of them tries to get out of bed then while he/she tends to that person, who is watching the other 2.....maybe every inpatient should have someone with them who can watch them, clean their room and cook their meals, and feed them....because that's what Kaminski is taking away from you and your loved ones. Patients will be hungry, dirty and not monitored appropriately. I challenge Ms Kaminski or any member of the media to shadow a nurse for a shift, walk every step she takes, and miss every break she misses and only go to the bathroom when she goes.......Same goes for every discipline.....housekeeping, dietary, etc.........everyone is overworked.

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      R Smith
      - May 30, 2012 at 14:04:28

      All of these people know what the job consist when they decide to work in the health care system. If you did not or do not like those conditions why did you first trainin in that profession or why stay in? Simply because it is a pretty good deal, benefits, medical plans, pension plans, etc. 60 percent of Canadians do not have a pension plan they are the ones who's taxes pay for all those who do.

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    wayne
    - May 30, 2012 at 09:34:28

    The report noted that our nurses spend more time at the bedside with patients than any other nurses in Canada. This should be seen as a very GOOD thing not as being inifficient. RNs, LPNs and PCAs NEED to be at the bedside with patients instead of stuck at desks filling out endless , repetitive and inefficient paperwork. They say that they will cut back on temporary help and overtime...yet staff are regulalry FORCED to work OT and not allowed to take holidays....sounds like a management problem to me. Did you ever notice that when you go to hospital they make a big deal about the hospital card and the MCP card ? The numbers on them are IDENTICAL...it's just inefficient duplication again. You register in one place and then give the same information thats written out or typed on paper in another location ...endless inefficeient paper. There is lots of inefficiency......but having patient care staff ( doctors, nurses, LPNs , PCAs etc) at patients bedsides is NOT part of it.

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    P F Murphy
    - May 30, 2012 at 09:01:46

    I'd like to see this report studied to see that its methodology is appropriate and that its endpoints are theoretical to realistic. It is not unheard of that a study may have biased procedures are designed to produce the result that all things are inefficient / ineffective so that they can then get the contracts to make the changes. We should also make sure that hospitals that this study may have been applied to previously are not the ones that now have infection control problems, increased patient wait times or deaths or increased employee injuries and down time. Since only Ms. Kaminski has seen this study, the rest of us know nothing about its contents except as were released at the press conference. Time and motion studies are well recognized to have time allocations for mechanical interactions like finding a vein, applying a dressing, noting a patient's vitals, cleaning a room but no time for human interactions like explaining what is going to happen and why to a patient or comforting that patient in their pain. As for the Tim's, I'd note the "efficiency" Bradley George wants to implement is to strip $18 form the employees' $28 hourly wage. Most of us could do that, but most of us, including Bradley George, could not live on the remaining $10 per hour.

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    Derrick
    - May 30, 2012 at 08:45:34

    Debbie, it appears that the nurses are not as overworked as the mainland nurses.

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      Chantal
      - May 30, 2012 at 09:11:47

      So rather than nurses on the mainland having a more manageable workload, you would like to see ALL nurses overworked . (not that I'm suggesting that they're not now). Should we apply that logic to all workers?

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      Craig
      - May 30, 2012 at 11:20:37

      You have no clue

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      Schaudenfreude newfie style
      - May 30, 2012 at 15:07:35

      Listen, the important thing is that people are going to lose their jobs which means it won't come off MY taxes. It's also good that they are unionized workers because we can blame the union "bosses" who I can accuse of not caring and getting rich off the deal without having to explain my lack of logic. Better than that, I can denegrate the same workers when they apply for EI as sucking off the system then denetrate them again when they have to apply for welfare as lazy, drunken, abusers. It's a win-win-win for ME because I will never be in that situation. Oh and taking shots at Tim Hortons workers making a living wage is just gravy.

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