Crockwell to get lawyer after guilty verdict

The One

- June 6, 2012 at 13:20:10

Its time for the Judge to slow things down a little and cross his T's and dot his I's before he sends Crockwell of to jail for 5 to 10 years, There is alot more to all this than finding him quilty on these 5 charges, Even though he never used insanity as a defense in the trial he did admit to have been drugged and not in his right frame of mind. ( did anyone prove that he wasn't drugged????) He also admitted of being in fear of the police from his 1998 incidient where he was unlawfully detained for 6 months, He was in so much fear that he risked his life and successfully escaped the house instead of surrendering to police. The week of the standoff the people of Bay Bulls put there trust in the hands of the RCMP and let them do whatever they felt needed to be done to end the standoff safely. The RCMP basically took over the town. The RCMP were never charged with Neglegence or made an appolgy to the people of Bay Bulls for allowing this to happen especially since they claimed Leo to be so dangerous. Leo should be thanked for allowing this standoff to end peacefully. The judge should put himself in Leo's shoes as you don't know when you yourself will become sick or get drugged and be in the same situation. Leo is just going through the motions and letting the system dig there hole deaper. Do anyone think that a diiferent Judge should hear the stay of proceeding application, Maybe a conflict of interest for the same judge to consider it after going through a trial and having him convicted

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mike

- June 6, 2012 at 01:04:05

He will either get a stay, win an appeal, or at the very least be released on the day of sentencing. He has many appeal-able issues not withstanding some strong charter arguments and abuse of process issues. This man is playing the system to his full advantage and I for one applaud him. Our system is getting a wake up call. I am sure you are all aware, or maybe not, that with the time he has served already he will likely walk out of custody upon sentencing as his time already served will have gone beyond the % a sentence required to be served prior to early release. He is not going for early release though, He is gunning for the win and if I had to bet, an eventual law suit. I wouldn't count him out just yet.

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RN

- June 5, 2012 at 18:26:59

As crazy as this all is, he clearly shows the state of our legal system.

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Marg

- June 5, 2012 at 17:52:47

Oh my heavens, this man has wasted more than enough of the Ccourt's time. This is absolutely crazy; however, Crockwell is not crazy; he's smart enough to play the justice system. The Courts have a backlog that need attending to.

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Virginia Waters

- June 5, 2012 at 17:25:00

Edmund/SR - Yes we get it that 'this sick man' ... 'needs help'. As for him pulling the strings in the justice system, what exactly do you suggest the justice system should have done to prevent it. Frankly there's not a lot you can do based on the present rules and legislation. Our justice system - right from policing through incarceration - is ill equipped to handle people who have serious mental problems. Perhaps prosecutors should have sought some form of treatment and custody at the Waterford as an alternative to all this expense and aggravation - but even those over-taxed mental care facilities don't want the Crockwells of the world and aren't equipped to deal with them. Part of the answer -if there is one- is earlier intervention by health care authorities and by the courts if necessary before behaviour like Mr. Crockwell's gets completely out of control. It is like listening to all the authorities in Corner Brook say there was nothing they could do about the man with the filthy feces infested house with 200 cats. Should friends, family and neighbours really be expected to put up with the consequences of such blatant mental problems for years before authorities are willing to step in?

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  SR

  - June 5, 2012 at 21:07:18

  This could have been prevented as soon as he wanted to defend himself. He has a history of mental problems and had a standoff with dozens of police. That should have been enough for the judge to get him help from the start. Regarding the cats, there's another person with a mental problem. Neighbours complained and council couldn't do anything .... unbelievable.

David

- June 5, 2012 at 16:24:00

For such a defiant man standing on his principles, going to jail sure turned him into a pathetic, snivelling coward...and it's going to cost us all even more. Do not dive in our genetic pool....you will crack your head really badly.

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WINSTON ADAMS

- June 5, 2012 at 16:18:41

If the Mounties acted outside the law ( they sourrounded and bombarded the house for 4 days before getting a warrant we are told) then where was his Charter rights protecting him from unreasonable detainment ? Were all who might sign such a warrant? In Florida? Were there other breaches of his rights by the Mounties? Why wasn't Mahoney's application heard brfore the trial? Is this a judicial error, or deliberate bias by the judge to convict Crockwell first, by saying to the jury "the Mounties actions are not on trial here." Seems he put the cart before the horse- convict first, ignore the Mounties actions , whether they were legal or not. Is Crockwell a fool for acting as his own lawyer? I say no. He 's showing just how corrupt this system is , thought he is paying a high price for his efforts to seek justice. He needs and should get more public support. You can bet his lawyers in the past gave this advise: plead insanitity or we can't help you. Makes their job easy without questioning the Mounties actions.

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Edmund

- June 5, 2012 at 15:46:33

The justice system and those who work in it are a joke to let this sick man pull the strings the way he has done since being arrested. If the system needs changing, change it, fast, before someone else comes along to waste our tax dollars and the time of the courts that could be put to much better use. Sentence him, put him in jail and offer to allow him to seek a law degree (at his own expense) while doing his time and then when he is released he can better represent himself again, if he wants to. The general public and the taxpayers have had enough of Crockwell and his antics. He does not deserve the attention he is getting.

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SR

- June 5, 2012 at 15:14:53

He's laughing at the justice system. They let him defend himself, which should have never happened, for 6 weeks and now he wants another trial with a lawyer. He needs help, not another trial.

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