- November 27, 2012 - 00:00
This should never have been rammed thru by Harper after it was turned down by the joint environmental review panel. Harper changed the legislation to ram this project thru.
- Tim Jamison
- November 26, 2012 - 13:27
This court case is going to work out the same way the long gun registry court case worked out. It's politcal garbage and it's going to be tossed out
- Maggy Carter
- November 26, 2012 - 11:43
You heard it here first folks. There is trouble in paradise - or at least the facade of paradise that NALCOR and Dunderdale have tried to maintain around this Muskrat boondoggle. Like others, I have observed in the past that all is not right with negotiations on the federal loan guarantee. That should hardly surprise us given its obvious lack of viability and creditworthiness. If the feds decide they want out, they could easily do so by attaching two simple conditions to the guarantee. First, that it is conditional on a hard and fast commitment from EMERA for the Nova Scotia link (which commitment is still subject to URB review and government approval in that province). The second is that, as urged by the CTF, Democracy Watch and countless groups and individuals in this province, Muskrat must first be resubmitted to the PUB for review. Taken together, these conditions would likely spell the end of Muskrat in the manner and form proposed by NALCOR. Incidentally, what better evidence that the guarantee talks are on the rocks than today's flip-floppery from government sock-puppet, shill, hack and junk-yard crackie John Smith. This is the same anonymous toad who first touted the guarantee as worth six hundred million or more. Now its down to three or less. If NALCOR's unofficial spokesman - the guy who passes himself off under a dozen different aliases including 'God Guard Thee' - is now saying we should skip the guarantee, you can bet there is trouble in paradise. How ironic that the ordinary taxpayers of this province might yet be saved from sixty more years of hydro-electric giveaways and oppressive utility bills by a federal government and a prime minister that has, until now, showed nothing but disdain for this province?
- November 26, 2012 - 11:22
Now John Smith, put that in your pipe and smoke it. Its not over until the fat lady sings.
- November 26, 2012 - 10:18
do you know the the eventual out come????and if it was not worth the aggreavation,why was all this research and tax paying dollars spent for on muskrat falls and then look at the aggrevation on upper churchill falls ,how can you go by the rule of law ,while you got governments and bussiness using rule by law how can any one have any rights,you rights are to have a vote but you do not have a right for your vote to be inforced,they are playing dirty politics???? and they violate there committments and when that goes on how can any one have equal rights and when that goes on there is no trust and no faith and then every body is out for them selves now is that what taxpayers are paying taxes for to be lied and dictated to because that is what has gone on and going on and you can believe that,then it becomes a mock and then no body knows what is going on only the ones that know what they are doing so where are your natural rights. Going in some ones pockets and look at the waste that goes with that???? neglect and negligence that goes with that and the help of the media look at the confusion and what gets done????
- Winston Adams
- November 26, 2012 - 10:09
Little John, you say a few hundred million savings from a federal loan guarantee is not worth the aggravation. Let me repeat that A FEW HUNDRED MILLION SAVINGS -- IS NOT WORTH THE AGGRAVATION. This from a guy who claims he is personally concerned about his light bill going up a few hundred dollars a year.They say the guarantee is worth 600 million is savings. Now what can that buy? It buys 100 MW of wind power and 77 MW of island Hydro power. This together with efficient heating, which is self fiancing, makes MF entirely unnecessary. Then to, isn't 600 million about the cost of the new hospital for Corner Brook, which they can't find the money to start? Only a multi billionaire, or an idiot, sorry to say, might say 600 million is nothing, -- very little , Little John. And notice you jumped on the tidal instead of the wind issue. You noticed that MHI has trippled the value of the wind contribution that is feasible for Nfld? Like to ignore that, don't you, even though you highly praise MHI when convenient to you argument. Makes me wonder , some one paying you big, big dollars for your talking points?
- John Smith
- November 26, 2012 - 10:44
Nope...no one paying me for my points. The point I was trying to make is that when you look at the total cost of the project...say 8 billion...that's 8 thousand millions ...then 400 million in interest savings has little consequence, nice to have sure, but of little consequence.We will make 400 million a year in sales of power to the spot market. A further interesting note is that the loan guarantee, and the sale of power to Emera was never included in the reviews by any of the agencies involved....and the project came in 2 billion cheaper than the alternatives....nuff said...
- Tim Jamison
- November 26, 2012 - 13:29
Wow. Attack the person much, Winston? Don't they teach you professionalism at liberal shill school?
- November 26, 2012 - 08:51
its time to allow the people to decide in a vote this mumble-jumble BS when it comes to muskrat falls. there are too many unanswered questions on the cost of this project. we need honest, and i repeat honest answers which is lacking from these overpayed politicians and their friends, but what else can you expect when you are dealing with CORRUPTION !
- John Smith
- November 26, 2012 - 08:22
So the Seirra club wants to force the people of NL to use Tidal energy instead of our hydro resources?Really? Quebec, BC, Manitoba, and Ont.all have hydro projects ongoing at this time, yet here the enviromentalists want the project stopped...why? Why can the rest of Canada proceed without being harrassed by these self serving entities, yet here we have to constantly appease these groups?As far as the loan guarantee goes I wish the Premier would tell Steve to shove it. The few hundred million in interest savings is simply not worth the aggrevation, and will not change the eventual outcome.
- Maurice E. Adams
- November 26, 2012 - 08:17
Perhaps this legal question is connected to the hang up with the loan guarantee.