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- California Pete from NFLD
- April 29, 2013 - 12:03
Now the tourists don't need to come to St Johns just go downtown LA and it looks the same and while there you can pay $12 an hour for parking. It makes for an expensive shopping trip. Have a good time and enjoy your stay
- April 28, 2013 - 00:51
Wow, how cheap ! Do you realize that now that you are a " have Province " you are subjected to the new reality of what that means ? Over my many years of travelling to many places in the world for business, your costs are immaterial c pared to other " oil related economies " around the World ! For example Amsterdam the cost is over $250,000 Can dollars, Texas @ over $200,000 U.S. , and in the Orient and Saudi and the middle East, you do not want to know the numbers ! Enjoy your new found petro $$$dollars !! The best is yet to come !!!
- April 27, 2013 - 21:06
makes too much sense GORDON GEKKO it will never happen
- April 27, 2013 - 14:25
Do you people do anything but whine? What else is the city supposed to do to address the parking problems and thus enable the commerce that happens in the downtown core?
- April 28, 2013 - 11:22
I could not agree with you more. The same people would probably complain about the lack of parking downtown. This is NEEDED down here whether you like it or not. With Mile One and now the planned expansion of the Convention Center, it's impossible to find parking downtown on most nights. It's a convenient locaiton as well, right next to the highway. could the Municipal government spend the money on somehting "better"? Perhaps. But I wouldn't call more parking spaces downtown a total waste of money.
- Virginia Waters
- April 27, 2013 - 13:29
It seems the Dunderdale government's penchant for making secret deals has rubbed off on City Hall. It used to be that getting the best bang for the taxpayer's buck meant an open call for proposals, public tendering and the like in which transparency and accountability were front and centre. It was one means of preventing the kind of skullduggery we have seen so often in the past. But our city fathers believe that, once elected, they have the divine right to govern however they see fit. Nor is the growing disdain for public scrutiny limited to government itself . It is especially rampant among the creatures of government whose very existence in many cases is designed to circumvent public oversight. When politicians are worried that their decisions, their deals or their spending will put them in the public spotlight, they use crown agencies like NALCOR to cloak their activities. When the Harbour Authority saw an opportunity to put up yet more restaurants on the St. John's waterfront, it didn't invite proposals from the local business community. No, it simply negotiated a secret deal in secrecy with people they knew quite well. When that same agency wanted our tax dollars for an ugly new fence, our mayor and councillors were happy to oblige – again making sure that the deal was done before the public even knew it was on the table. Unfortunately this standard of behaviour among governments and their offspring at all levels is fast becoming the norm rather than the exception. Unchecked it will lead inevitably to yet more corruption of the type we have seen so often in this province and as is now emerging from the public inquiry into government dealings with the construction industry in Quebec. We reap what we sow.
- April 27, 2013 - 12:27
if it is going to pay for itself & be profitable - why didn't the city build their own and make the cash long term???
- April 28, 2013 - 11:25
I'm not an expert in Municipal governemnt affairs, Tom. But I'm pretty certain it's not uncommon for the City to partner with private businesses on construction projects such as this. Especially when there is commercial office and retail space involved. In my opinion, the City probably saw the need for parking and partnered with the private sector (to save tax dollars) to address that problem.
- Gordon Gekko
- April 27, 2013 - 11:58
While I'm not necessarily siding with the downtown anti-development crowd who won't be happy unless the city looks like some 19th century village, I really don't understand this obsession with putting high density office towers, hotels, and convention centers downtown. It just doesn't seem practical. Terrible infrastructure, no parking, and protesting hippies. Why cant these developments go up somewhere off Kenmount Road or Topsail Road? This is not Toronto, it's not like these areas are hours away from the city core, this is still a small town, and developing these areas would be easier in every way. Mile One and the the convention center is one perfect example, that should never have been put where it is, it should have been built around what is now Kelsey Drive or some other similar area. Same goes for any office towers, hotels, etc. Building them downtown is simply not worth the hassle.
- April 27, 2013 - 11:54
Let's see...they each cost $17,000. Within 5 years, they'll each have $60,000 worth of outstanding, unpaid tickets associated them. That's a very good ROI....we're be building equity, folks! The elegance of that math is blatantly "governmental".
- Downtown Gal
- April 27, 2013 - 11:11
It may sound expensive, but that parking garage will pay for itself in no time. At $13 / day with 460 parking spaces that's $5980 / day, $29,990 / week (not even including weekends), $119,600 / month, with a grand total of $1,435,200 / year. I park in the Atlantic Place garage and it is filled every day. They make it sound expensive in this article, but even with maintenance and operational expenses it will be a cash cow for the city, and will pay for itself in a few years.
- April 27, 2013 - 20:52
Well done Downtown Gal.....finally someone with a grain of sense posts something meaningful....I mean Virginia Waters post above even tried to implicate the Dunderdale gov't.......just plain stupid....so when you look at the numbers properly, and without some stupid agenda, the numbers seem to make sense. Well done city of st. john's, and never mind the simple minds who complain just for the sake of complaining. And don't even try to defend, because then I will not only think what you are...
- April 28, 2013 - 13:40
Good Math for the "Private" in "Public Private Partnership" as I read the article the city gave control of the land to the EastPort & Henry Bell with blessing to build and operate parking garage with revenue retained by the private entities. Your figures of 1.4mil / annually would require less than 8 of the 20-25 year lifespan alleged. Being a 'cash cow' is good for them, perhaps not so much for the public. I found the following comment entertaining - apparently taxpayers are not expected to use the facility: It’s not going to cost the taxpayer money because we fully anticipate there will be enough revenue coming in every year to start paying down that debt and eventually it will be paid off.”
- My two cents
- April 27, 2013 - 08:16
Something smells fishy on the waterfront these days. I wonder if we have any investors at City Hall?
- John Smith
- April 27, 2013 - 07:56
Man...that is one ugly building....I'm all for development but always thought the citiy's involvement in this...to the tune of ten million dollars was over the top.