- May 08, 2013 - 10:27
Please don't act as if this wouldn't happen to anyone - and making judgement on whether this man is gambling or consuming alcohol is not necessary. As a student on a fixed income who made payments to my bill when I could, I have also had my power cut off. Sometime you really do have to choose between rent and food or power. Why pay your power bill if you're going to be on the streets? Not everyone is fortunate to have a high income, and it is hard. I have no mental health issues that I know of but if faced with this circumstance I probably would lose my mind a little as well.
- May 07, 2013 - 13:53
Thats it i have a great plan now from some of the readers i am buying an axe and running up all my bills and i will be looking for anyone coming on my property. Great idea let the tax payer pay his bill does this guy gamble or drink or smoke if so cut back on all 3 and pay your bills
- May 07, 2013 - 12:53
I can't believe I have to pay for things! Where's my axe, too! I want the deal where $50 magically settles a $200 light bill. I seriously can't believe that people are blaming newfoundland power when this guy was 5 months past due on his bill. Why don't we ALL stop paying our light bill, if newfoundland power is just supposed to let everything go because someone kicks up a stink about it.
- Happily Retired
- May 07, 2013 - 13:47
Cheerbear, Please check your facts. It was Nfld. Power which set the "magical"precedent for electricians to negotiate account payments by cash, not "this guy." I'm amazed they, and their union, would let this corporation do this to them, but that's another issue. His power was cut off in the winter for a little over $200.00, while he was offering to make some payment. I'm sure that many others often go over that in just one month. If they miss a payment, are they all cut off? As far as the axe goes, even the judge acknowledged that he didn't intend to harm the men. But I guess his opinion is irrelevant when you have to defend the mighty corporation. We shoud all be kicking up a stink about how that crowd does business.
- May 07, 2013 - 12:11
This is absolutely despicable. I am disgusted by the actions of NL Power and by ignorant comments made by readers- or trolls, I guess (with extremely bad grammar and spelling, but that's a whole other conversation). A corporation doesn't handle an overdue bill by showing up and asking for cash. For one thing, who has cash these days at their finger tips? Cash is passe in most instances as we are an electronic society. I am usually more articulate than this, but I am speechless at how poorly this man has been treated by the Courts and NLP. Very sad for him and his son.
- May 07, 2013 - 11:17
Jay, The employees did call the police and I feel that anybody that would act in such a manner as this gentleman no matter what his financial condition is a danger to the public or anybody that might ring his doorbell. I can feel for his situation but I feel that the safety of the public comes first. Help in a hospital for his emotinal problems could perhaps help him all around. Poverty is no excuse for stating as said he did in the article " “Someone’s going to get hurt over this. Someone’s going underground.” That is a threat of violence and he did have a weapon.
- May 07, 2013 - 13:54
Sheila, So now your a psychiatrist and a lawyer? It must be great to have your delusions of adequacy. Nfld. Power must be ecstatic to have you on their side. Maybe you can convince them to handle their "cash or cut-off" transactions for next winter
- May 07, 2013 - 11:16
This is absolutely despicable. I am disgusted by the actions of NL Power and by ignorant comments made by readers. A corporation doesn't handle an overdue bill by showing up and asking for cash. For one thing, who has cash these days at their finger tips? Cash is passe in most instances as we are an electronic society. I am usually more articulate than this, but I am speechless at how poorly this man has been treated by the Courts and NLP. Very sad for him and his son.
- May 07, 2013 - 11:04
So what you are saying is SHEILA is that you sent him to the professionals and experts so he can pay his light bill on time???? do that also go for any one that do not have the problems they are saying this man has???? not only SHEILA.
- May 07, 2013 - 12:16
This is I feel a possible situation where there is more than poverty and the inability to pay one bill. Why is the man on social assistance is it because there is no work available that he qualifies for is it because of anger issues or other emotional concerns that pervents him for holdling employment. The issue of why he exploded is not as important as why he could not handle the stress. Anybody with the inability to cope that causes them to act in a violent or antisocial manner requires mental health attention to determine if there are issues other than the person is just a bully with a sense of entitlement involved.
- May 07, 2013 - 10:19
Maybe if power companies have low income energy assistance programs similar to United States, many individuals on fix incomes, like Mr. Layman, would not face the prospect of losing power or resorting to violence in the first place. Shame on the Newfoundland and Labrador Government and Supreme Court of Canada for allowing power companies to constantly gouge every single penny from their customers and not providing rate assistance programs for low income citizens.
- May 07, 2013 - 10:11
Facts and understanding have no place when the lynch mob is on the march.
- May 07, 2013 - 09:32
Wonder how much he owes the liquor and beer stores???
- Maggy Carter
- May 07, 2013 - 09:18
It is hard to fully understand this conviction unless you are in the courtroom and know all the facts. Clearly Layman was guilty of something but, at least based on media accounts, it is doubtful he was guilty of assault with a weapon. Layman did not swing the axe at the NL Power employees nor did he threaten to do so. He used the axe to destroy the meter box. Judge Orr acknowledged that Layman "did not intend to injure the men" but concluded nevertheless that his use of the axe for any purpose amounted to assault. I'm not sure this satisfies, or at least should satisfy, the standard of proof for assault with a weapon. But my bigger issue with this story is the behaviour of NL Power and its employees. Anytime you approach a home for the purpose of cutting power, you know there is potential for this kind of reaction. In their initial encounter with Layman, they report him as having been 'loud', 'disturbed' and 'aggressive'. That should have been their cue to back off to avoid an escalation. Indeed I very much suspect their own internal protocols require them to do exactly that, and where necessary to seek the presence of a peace officer. This story not only gives NL Power a black eye, it reflects very badly on a government that regularly revels in the oil soaked riches that have washed our shores. It isn't merely the case that one segment of our society has been left behind in the wealth game, it is that they have been materially hurt by it. Contrary to popular convention, not all boats have been floated. If you're not part of it, you lose. As rents, utilities, food, transportation and almost everything else are inflated, those on fixed incomes fall further and further behind. This is the ugly side of oil. One has to wonder what mind-set this particular bit of ugliness has left with the 17 year old son living in the house with Mr. Layman? Is this how the seeds of resentment, hostility, and social exclusion are planted in our young? This and the story of the 82 year old charged with stealing food in Corner Brook should give our society some pause for thought.
- May 07, 2013 - 09:01
Sheila, I hope nobody related to you ever gets sick, or falls upon bad times. You're being totally disingenuous by talking about children with chocolate bars. These were two grown men, cutting off his lights. That must be a great power trip. If they were that fightened, all they had to do was leave and phone the police, who are trained to deal with these circiumstances. If anything had happened, Is Nfld Power, now sending electrical technicians to negotiate accounts payables for them. (where's the union when you need it?)Please note, it had happened in the past. Nfld Power totally mishandled this, as it has many times. If anything had happened, it would have been their fault.
- May 07, 2013 - 08:37
I thought newfoundland power employees were like ninja turtles?,thats why they get paid the BIG bucks.
- The power is your money
- May 07, 2013 - 08:30
If nalcor and government ever wants to pay off muskratfalls then people will have to pay their bills. They don't make money off of the power remember, they make it and take it from the people of the province. We only have enough to give away to other business and provinces. MRF's will always be the power mega project that NL forgot we needed.
- May 07, 2013 - 08:05
He then told the men if they didn’t leave the property, “Someone’s going to get hurt over this. Someone’s going underground.” He had an axe that he was swinging but of course the poor man is depressed so lets just give him house arrest and make him see a counselor. What a load of bull! Send him to the Waterford and let the doctors there determine the extent of his mental illness. God help the child that goes to his house selling those school chocolate bars that he cannot afford.