St. John’s lawyer considers Salmon Fest class action

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Ches Crosbie

A prominent St. John’s lawyer says if promoters for last weekend’s Salmon Fest in Grand Falls-Windsor fail to “make things right,” then a class action lawsuit may prove to be warranted.

In a post on his website Tuesday, Ches Crosbie said two employees attended event, which featured The Eagles and several other musical acts from outside Newfoundland and Labrador.

He said one complained there was not enough water in the VIP section to keep people hydrated, an issue exacerbated by the fact concertgoers could not bring water with them. Bottles of water were sold at the event for $4.

Another employee told Crosbie if you left the site to get water or anything else, security would not allow you back in.

“And, as well, there was very little food to be obtained once inside the promoter’s compound,” wrote Crosbie. “Ambulances hauled patients away by the truckload all day.”

Crosbie said the promoters should do as any business would if customers are left unsatisfied with their service through an apology and by offering some form of amends.

The lawyer said remedies for a breach of contract could range from refunding the cost of tickets to damages for mental distress and added that media reports indicate there are many concertgoers expressing an interest in pursuing legal action.

Geographic location: Newfoundland and Labrador

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  • John
    July 19, 2013 - 16:52

    I've read some comments here and if you are one of those who said it was an excellent concert, then perhaps you were drunk or stoned. My wife and I paid for VIP tickets, waited in line early for a good seat and were in the 10th roll, we all started placing our chairs that way. we had a perfect seat and were looking forward to an excellent concert. That soon changed when the crowds moved in. People just did not care, they were knocking over chairs, pushing you out of the way, blowing smoke and weed in your face. I don't smoke, I did that day. Where was security? They wouldn't dare enter in that mob because it was impossible to move anywhere, as their where, no routes to go anywhere. You had to walk over people. I talked to one of the volunteers he told me 6500 VIP tickets were sold, what happened to the 2500 only. I seen the Mayor on TV bragging about the success of the festival was, he wasn't in with the crowds, was he. What a joke. $6.25 for a beer and $4.00 for water, &7.00 for a hot dog. All this festival was one big money grab. Shame on the Mayor of Grand Falls and the organizers, (you failed) That was my first and last time at a concert in GRAND FALLS NL. If their is a class action law suite, count me in.

  • Mike
    July 19, 2013 - 09:32

    I am amazed at some of the comments here. "ambulance chaser"?? among others. For those of you that weren't there or weren't promised, for a premium price,easy access to all amenities that usually are available to concert goers, you have no idea what you are talking about. maybe you are part of the fiasco that took place and are deflecting the anger towards the lawyer. I can't imagine how it could be anything else if you sat through that hell. There was hardly a minute of peace with people climbing over you, walking on your feet and just plain invading the little bit of space you forked out hard earned cash for. The promise was not delivered.....the place was grossly over crowed. My girlfriend and i opted for water because there was no way we were getting close to the beer and food. so "FOUR" times i made my way to the water vendor, about a half hour to do so at 120 ft away, that is a crime, 4 dollars for a bottle of water that i purchased a 24 bottle case for 3 dollars two hours down the road. Running out four times, that was the four times i made my way to the tent, it might have been more, is inexcusable. we were hungry and thirsty for most of the day. But i am assuming the vendors didn't know the crowd was being greedily expanded either. We came from Nova Scotia, spent a night in a hotel on the way, camped the night of the concert and stayed in a B&B on the way home. Not an inexpensive adventure but well worth it to see the line up at this concert. What small portion of the day we weren't trodden on and pushed and shoved and hungry and thirsty, we enjoyed. We weren't the only ones that were upset. i believe the only people that didn't notice the chaos were the group around us that were totally drunk and smoked out of their minds, as we probably smoked a pack of cigarettes and a quite a bit of weed in a non smoking area. I don't care if you smoke anything, but i don't and neither does my girlfriend. They were noisy and hollering and whistling constantly. We can all have fun, have a few cold ones, a few puffs if we need to but we should respect others, and the "ORGANIZERS", that charged these prices and promised a great time should have been there to make sure this was delivered. Man i could go on about this day but it puts my blood pressure up. Is the lawyer going to make money from this, i hope so because that means those involved in creating this nightmare are paying. This is not the first festival so i am assuming those involved were just greedy and not inexperienced. They should never be involved in this again. Someone mentioned Moncton. You could learn a lot from them. There were more people when the eagles played there and was ran very smoothly. The flow of buses before and after was unbelievably efficient. We felt like well, we have your money and screw you when the concert was over in NFLD. So poorly run. So if there is a class action count me in. It's not about the money rather than making sure this never happens to anyone else. It won't to us because unfortunately we will not attend this festival again.

  • California Pete from NFLD
    July 18, 2013 - 18:04

    Without giving my age away it sure did not sound like the good times I had at Woodstock NY. It also was a mess but, it was also out of control but fun.

  • Yo mama
    July 18, 2013 - 11:56

    First off, I despise lawyers in every aspect....their greedy fingers in every customer/financial institution transaction possible. Charging hundreds for a few e-mails, photocopies and signatures....Having said that, if it weren't for dishonest people, we wouldn't need them, so who do I despise more? Obviously the criminals and con artists that keep them in business. This would include the bum clowns that organized this event, there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for anyone in a country like ours to pass out from dehydration, of course one could rightfully say each case was self inflicted, perhaps they could have left to get water, but why should they? Paying those ticket prices and making the same bum clowns rich that denied water being brought in? We don't need lawyers, we need heads stomped in, it's a fact that only the threat of violence will keep most people in line. Nowadays however that's illegal, unfortunately. I guess the lawyers will have to do, GO CHES!!!

  • mellie
    July 18, 2013 - 11:15

    Isnt making money what its all about .Just wander how much insurance was carried by the promoters and the town to cover damages .Dont want to be an alarmist only after something bad happens its to late. The same common should apply for an outdoor event an indoors

  • Jeez
    July 17, 2013 - 22:05

    uh huh, Ches "Class Action Chaser" Crosbie at it again.

  • CJ
    July 17, 2013 - 21:24

    "even the UN recognizes water and sanitation as a human right" really? you are comparing the festival to what people in 3rd world countries have to go through? that attitude sets the tone for a lawsuit alright! You may not have received the service that was promoted for the fee ( and considering the line-up the fee was very reasonable) but to say the festival violated human rights is a bit much. May have been poorly organized but I have yet to hear anyone say it was so bad they had to leave.....

  • JMAP
    July 17, 2013 - 21:07

    I was at the concert, I don't feel a lawsuit is warranted. This is not the U.S. so let's not start acting that way. Legitimate concerns have been expressed, and the rules need to be changed if there are to be future concerts. The VIP problems could have been avoided if they had sold only general admission tickets....people do swarm at concerts, obviously this was a first concert for many, chairs in other provinces are not permitted, a towel or blanket only. 1 Litre water is permitted in Moncton. You can't expect people to hold back, they want to get as close a possible to the stage. Fencing off the main portion of the stage was a big mistake and a insult to everyone who bought a general admission ticket. Perhaps that's why there was swarming. Fence people off to the side if they want special attention as is done elsewhere. I purposely chose not to buy a VIP ticket and it was a great choice. Let the Mayor GFW know your concerns in writing and request a reply. Namaste.

  • Sally
    July 17, 2013 - 21:06

    Oh my people, grow up. What do you expect to get out of a concert with 30,000 plus people! The entertainment was excellent, and in my opinion it was an awesome time! Seriously filing a lawsuit over an outdoors concert is a joke! There's too many stuck-up people around here, get your head out of your ass!!!!

  • Jeff
    July 17, 2013 - 20:21

    Ches smells money. I was there it was a great time. VIP were allowed to leave VIP and great food and drinks. In the general admission areas line ups were much shorter. You just needed to walk 1000 feet to them. Get a life losers and if you don't like crowds and line ups don't head put to events like this...maybe the Arts and Culture Centers are more your speed. I had a blast. Best Salmon Gest Ever! Can't wait for next year.

  • den
    July 17, 2013 - 19:48

    seems you have a big divide. those who were not there, and like to boast they do not care, but somehow keep popping up in comment sections of news stories on the mess. And then there are those of us who paid good money and were hustled. And are still being hustled. Bottom line, we did not go to a free air concert. It was not a wood stock. It was a community festival. The community and the promoter share the responsibilities of health and welfare. The expectation at exchange of funds for tickets was that we would be cared for. have water and food facilities. have washroom facilities. that's the basic of the exchange...this says nothing of the poor folks who were suckered in to a VIP ticket with different expectations. this concert was tantamount to Communism... YOU cannot bring water, you must buy ours. if we run out, tuff. you cannot bring food. if its rotten, or stale or we run out...tuff. you cannot leave. you may only leave via one gate, no matter what emergencies may arise. if you are in a wheel chair, we make no special accommodations, if you use our washroom stalls...do not expect sanitizers. at any time we may flood the field with drunks from the beer tent. we will cut the field in half and call one half vip and one normal tickets... we will not tell the normal ticket holder that they are going to be so far away they will only see things on a jumbo tron. if our jumbo tron is of poor quality...be quite you minions! just pass over your money and line up....shut up. you in fact are so insignificant that we as promoters will not address you and if we speak on the matter we will blame you. 1st blame. you took chairs! does not matter that it was allowed.. you took them and caused all of the trouble. 2nd blame... counterfeit tickets caused over crowding. does not matter that we had high tech scanners and holographic tickets....someone among you figured out how to fool our guards and we accidently put 3 grand more people in a spot and never noticed. 3rd blame people are just complainers! go away... we have your money.

  • Amanda
    July 17, 2013 - 18:49

    Other concerts I have been to provide free drinking water, you are allowed to bring in an empty water bottle to fill up at you leisure. If you want to purchase water there, it was $2 a bottle or you could turn in 10 empty bottles you found at the festival in for a free bottle. You also could go in and out of the festival. There needs to be repercussions for trapping families into paying $64 a day in water. Ridiculous Salmon Fest...

  • Ticked
    July 17, 2013 - 18:14

    It was an outside concert!!! This will ruin an annual party in Grand Falls...just waiting for the announcement of "no more" in the future, due to this kind of crap...Ok,,,some poor planning for the hot weather..., but lawsuit....come on!!

  • chris squires
    July 17, 2013 - 17:39

    Money is RIGHT methodology, the promoter made decisions for maximizing the buck and it is the ONLY thing that will make people listen and change their ways. Mr. Crosbie is doing a great thing, a good service, and he will be paid for that, as he should be. BTW, I do not know the man and have no interest in the lawsuit, just passing on my feelings. I am not a fan of lawyers, I am not a lawyer either

  • Tim Jamison
    July 17, 2013 - 16:41

    The Student Loan Privacy Breach Class Action is ongoing and it's a lot bigger than Ches. There are four law firms from across Canada participating as a team. Court proceedings are set to begin in December and I'd not describe it as frivolous. My personal, confidential information was lost, including my SIN and other pieces of info that could be used to access my credit. I want a new SIN, and damages for all my time spent. Lawyers are usually very slimy, but sometimes they're needed. I also wouldn't use the word "remember" to describe the student loans suit because you'll be seeing it in this paper again in Nov. or Dec. and then repeatedly for years to come

  • JOHN
    July 17, 2013 - 16:31

    you guys are a piece of work. Whenever you offer a certain level of service to a client and you fail to provide it surely you should be held accountable right. is that to much to ask.

  • Rick
    July 17, 2013 - 15:45

    We're any of the above posters there? I was and feel that a class action lawsuit should be filed

  • J C Wellon
    July 17, 2013 - 15:31

    To Jeremiah, Eli and Phile Doubt very much if either of you were at the Concert ! To Bad then you may have a different opinion.

    • Phile
      July 18, 2013 - 08:10

      I am glad I wasn't there. From what I here it was a zoo. My comment was about Ches Crosbie chasing lawsuits, not about the attendees of salmon fest. 10 steps that can ruin your lawsuit? Ambulance chaser.

  • Keith Fillier
    July 17, 2013 - 15:28

    My wife and I attended the concert and thought the extra cost for VIP tickets was warranted given the Entertainment lineup and the fact we could avoid an overcrowded venue. We were told there would be 2500 VIP tickets sold. For some reason there were more than double the number of people in the VIP section, most of whom carried folding chairs as suggested by the promoter was allowed. We were told we couldn't leave once we entered and could not bring along even a bottle of water. What possibly could the reason be for this??? The concession system would have been better designed by my 12 year old. There was little signage to indicate what line you were in until you got to the front. Every ticket for a consumable was sold at the same small area, with only a few lines These lines were incredibly large and only on one side of the stage, which meant people on the otherside of the crowd had to cross through the crowd to get to them. There were no access alleys barracaded to alow for movement through the crowd, just a sea of folding chairs. The only security was around the perimeter of the crowd. I've been to events in NL and on the mainland before that have been organized much more efficiently and safely. The Klondyke festivals, with simliar size crowds were a pleasure to attend, WITHOUT A VIP SECTION. I wonder if incompetence or inexperience led to the failure to make this a success, or if it was just a money grab without regard for the patrons. I also wonder if the town and authorities, Police and Fire Dept, had any input into the planning of the grounds and the stage and access routes through the crowds and out of the venue. If panic had set into that crowd of 30,000+, I shudder to think what may have been the result. The people attending the concert were great, no competing for space or butting into lines. I think this kept the concert environment safe and friendly. The entertainment was fantastic, the volunteers and workers at the field were very helpful and courteous. I would like to see my ticket money refunded. Revoke this promotor's license to operate in this province and the authorities need to get their act together to keep the public safe. This isn't the first concert of this size!!

  • carogers
    July 17, 2013 - 15:12

    Information for anyone who does not understand the seriousness of the situation even the UN recognizes water and sanitation as a human right. On 28 July 2010, through Resolution 64/292, the United Nations General Assembly explicitly recognized the human right to water and sanitation and acknowledged that clean drinking water and sanitation are essential to the realisation of all human rights. The Resolution calls upon States and international organisations to provide financial resources, help capacity-building and technology transfer to help countries, to provide safe, clean, accessible and affordable drinking water and sanitation for all. Mr. Ches Crosby is addressing the fact this promoter considered profit before an international understanding by the UN of water and clean sanitation as a human right. This is how change occurs by forcing compliance through our courts.

  • lab girl
    July 17, 2013 - 14:57

    Well say goodbye to the yearly Salmon Fest! No doubt there needs to be something corrected for next year. I doubt anyone is spending time in the Waterford for mental distress. All the "legal action" is going to drive it into the ground preventing this type of event from happening in NL. Yes there should be less tickets sold or the area made bigger. Yes more food should be supplied. Or possibly be able to bring a limited number of things in. Maybe offer a discount for next years event for those who attended this year. Refunding everyone will bankrupt it. What about those people who enjoyed it? Things do have to change but isn't it better to figure out what has to change rather than destroying an event.

  • Jeremiah
    July 17, 2013 - 14:52

    Ambulance chaser.

  • Eli
    July 17, 2013 - 14:43

    Wondered if/when Ches would look to benefit from somebody else's grief, again. Figures!

  • Phile
    July 17, 2013 - 14:38

    When there is the smell of a lawsuit in the air Ches Crosby comes running. Remember the breach of privacy with the student loan centre??

    • Brad
      July 17, 2013 - 16:56

      Pretty sure Bob Buckingham is the one who is on that lawsuit; however, he is attached to the moose vehicle collision lawsuit.