Published on October 17, 2013
Accused murderer David Folker sits in the prisoner’s dock as defence co-counsel Scott Hurley (left) and Crown co-prosecutor Iain Hollett talk prior to the start of proceedings Thursday.
— Photo by Rosie Gillingham/The Telegram
Published on October 17, 2013
Ann Marie Shirran
The questions were more direct than the first time David Folker spoke to police, the officer’s approach tougher, the assertions frank.
Yet, throughout close to three hours of his second videotaped interview with police, David Folker still insisted he had nothing to do with his girlfriend’s disappearance.
“Can you tell me where Ann is?” Sgt. Pat Roche firmly asked Folker in the Aug. 11, 2010 interview at RNC headquarters.
“No,” Folker replied.
“Are you being truthful?” Roche asked.
“Yes,” Folker said.
“Why should I believe you?” Roche asked.
“You should believe me because it’s the truth.”
But it wasn’t.
Last week, two days into his murder trial at Newfoundland Supreme Court in St. John’s, Folker admitted he lied about the whole thing.
He knew exactly what happened to Ann Marie Shirran, the mother of their young son.
The 43-year-old conceded that on July 18, 2010, there had been a physical altercation between them and she died as a result.
He also admitted he disposed of the 32-year-old woman’s body in Cappahayden and then lied to police about what had happened.
However, Folker is still maintaining his not-guilty pleas to charges of second-degree murder and improperly or indecently interfering with a human body.
In court earlier this week, the jury heard the first videotaped interview Folker had with police on July 24, 2010.
In that conversation, Roche seemed sympathetic and used a softer tone with Folker.
Not so much in the second interview, which jurors finished hearing Thursday.
Roche was firm with Folker, pointing to several inconsistencies in his recount of what happened July 18, 2010, the day Shirran went missing. Roche even bluntly told Folker he didn’t believe his story.
He pointed out that the series of events that Folker explained the first time is not consistent with what police discovered.
For example, the day Shirran went missing, Folker had told police that he had spent his time pacing the floors and then took their son Moses out for a drive because he wouldn’t settle for bed. In the first interview, Folker said once Moses fell asleep, he pulled over and also fell asleep. He said he woke up at 2 a.m. and went home.
However, Roche informed Folker that police discovered that Folker’s computer was in use at his home from between 10:44 p.m. and 11:44 p.m. that night, with visits to a porn site, as well as Kijiji.
“I can see how that might look, but it’s just something I didn’t recall,” Folker said.
Roche also pointed out that officers who had surveillance on Folker spotted him taking cars out for test drives four times — odd, seeing Folker had applied for social assistance, Roche said.
Folker was seen several times driving to the Cape Spear area. A few times, he got out and walked into a wooded area near Blackhead, exactly where he later conceded he hid Shirran’s personal items.
He was also seen driving to the Southern Shore, where Shirran’s remains were discovered a few weeks later.
Roche pointed out that Folker was displaying unusual behaviour since Shirran’s disappearance.
It was that behaviour that prompted police to make the decision to get Child, Youth and Family Services involved.
The second interview took place the day after one-year-old Moses was taken from Folker’s care.
“Well, suddenly I’m responsible for my son and my girlfriend is gone and I have to keep it together,” Folker said. “So, yeah, I’m doing weird things.”
Folker then insists that he see his son. He said there was no need for authorities to take him.
“He needs his father,” Folker said.
“He needs to be with his mother,” Roche pointed out.
“That’s true, too,” Folker said.
“But we both know that’s probably not going to happen,” Roche said.
“It’s been so long, probably not,” Folker said.
Roche told Folker he suspected he knew more about where Shirran is and told him, “I will cut down every tree from Shea Heights to Cape Spear to find her.”
Unlike the first interview, in which Folker broke down crying several times, he displayed no emotion in the second interview.
The only time he showed any emotion was when Roche stepped out of the room for a few minutes. Folker was heard mumbling, “Oh Ann, where are you?”
The trial continues today.