Province backed trade talks: 2008 letter

Rob Antle
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N.L. endorsed feds on work for EU deal

Seven months ago, then-provincial fisheries minister Trevor Taylor wrote Ottawa to pledge Newfoundland and Labrador's support for federal efforts aimed at inking a trade deal with the European Union.

That message contrasts with more recent statements by the Williams government.

Last week, Premier Danny Williams said he doesn't trust Ottawa to negotiate on Newfoundland and Labrador's behalf.

Williams suggested the province could negotiate its own trade agreement with the EU.

Trevor Taylor

Seven months ago, then-provincial fisheries minister Trevor Taylor wrote Ottawa to pledge Newfoundland and Labrador's support for federal efforts aimed at inking a trade deal with the European Union.

That message contrasts with more recent statements by the Williams government.

Last week, Premier Danny Williams said he doesn't trust Ottawa to negotiate on Newfoundland and Labrador's behalf.

Williams suggested the province could negotiate its own trade agreement with the EU.

But last summer, the province was onboard with Ottawa.

"We strongly endorse your commitment for bilateral agreements and look forward to working with the federal government to achieve a bilateral agreement with the EU," Taylor wrote in an Aug. 11, 2008, letter to thenfederal international trade minister Michael Fortier.

The provincial Liberal Opposition obtained the letter and provided it to The Telegram.

Taylor wrote the feds in 2008 to highlight the "tremendous potential" of the EU as a market for seafood.

But he noted that high EU tariffs on seafood products remain a challenge. The province wants those tariffs eliminated.

Taylor indicated in his letter that "we fully concur" with Ottawa's statement that it should pursue bilateral trade agreements to obtain market access. "The European Union (EU) is of particular importance," he wrote.

The letter was copied to a raft of federal and provincial ministers and local fishing industry groups.

The premier's office said Williams was not available for comment Tuesday.

Opposition Leader Yvonne Jones called the letter "ironic," given the premier's recent comments.

"It certainly shows that they feel that there was a tremendous amount of merit in having a relationship with the Government of Canada in intervening in this particular process," Jones said in an interview.

"So I find it really ironic today, just a few months later, that they're out there saying that, basically, we're going to do this alone."

Jones said she doesn't understand the approach. "There's no harm in making our message stronger and more powerful, but we don't do that separate from everyone else," she said.

The Liberal leader suspects the shift in tone may be a result of the ongoing war between Ottawa and the province.

"I think it's more about the differences between the premier and the prime minister at this stage than it's really about the issues over tariff agreements with the European Union, and that's unfortunate," Jones said.

Last week, Ottawa announced that Canada and the EU have agreed to launch comprehensive trade talks. All provinces and territories - except Newfoundland and Labrador - are supporting the feds.

Williams told The Telegram last week he won't go "along with the tide of all the other provinces."

The premier charged that Newfoundland and Labrador has been "shafted" in past Canadian-led international trade negotiations.

Ottawa has stressed there is still a seat open at the table for Newfoundland and Labrador during trade talks.

Meanwhile, Canwest News Service reported that the EU is set to move forward without participation from the province.

"It would have been ideal if all provinces had joined" in a recent pro-trade declaration, European official Jan Sliva told Canwest in a statement. "But in our view those provinces and territories that did join represent the majority of Canada's trade and investment potential."

rantle@thetelegram.com

Organizations: European Union, The Telegram, Canwest

Geographic location: Ottawa, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada

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  • Christine
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    I love it when one looks around and sees the state of our healthcare, the conditions of our schools, and employment that pretty well ends when we go beyond the overpass and still folks like Bob can stand up and say, Good job, Danny! Good job!

  • Marky Mark
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Huh? from NL

    I'll tell you how it makes them different -
    Danny Williams wants the best deal possible

    Those other premiers signed the first deal that crossed their desk.

    Churcihll Falls
    Hibernia
    Voisey's Bay

    This province has been its own worst enemy when it comes to signing over our resources to companies.

    Under Danny's watch, that hasn't happened.

    It's been 60 years of stupidity, 5 years of fighting for what's rightfully ours.

  • Bones
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Pheobe, do you mean the same Cameron Inquiry that was called by the current government? lol Why would they deflect attention when it names, specifically, Eastern Health as the place where the breakdown caused this problem? Oh Right, lol, you didn't read the report, did you? lol

    Christine: You should talk to the bosses of all these poor people working for min wage. I doubt they work for the government, so someone else should shoulder the responsibility for their crappy wages. You, however, have a provincial government job, lol, talk about biting the hand that feeds, but I digress. You know as well as me that your job is the next best thing to guaranteed for the rest of your days unless you screw up pretty big...and I seriously doubt you can complain about making minimum wage.

    Do you realize that more cash in NL makes for a much better bargaining position, come union contract negotiating time? Do you think the province and the nurses would be having this dispute if we were as flush with cash as we should be, regarding our historical resource giveaways?

    You should also also consider the 60+ years we have been equals in the nation. Why would you start complaining at a time your province has the most fantastic economy it has ever known?

    W McLean: I agree, lots of cash has poured in by those, supposedly, terrible deals. I can't help but wonder how much more they would be worth had Danny negotiated them, lol. Don't you? Could we have potentially lost equity stakes in these worth billions over the last price surges? I think we did. Ownership was the farthest thing from any prior governments mind, which is funny, since NL owns the resources, lol.

    I'm going invisible now.....c ya all tomorrow, lol

  • Bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    To Terri, the Nurses and the very small minority out there who share your opinion:

    Judging by the latest poll, not many here feel he's hindering the province one bit. In fact, it seems that his naysayers here are doing more to hinder this province by giving the false impression in blogs such as this that he has little support here.

    This sounds a lot like the old Andy Wells naysayers and like Andy, Danny Williams will be around until he and he alone decides it's time to move on. Why? Because like Andy, people feel he's doing a good job, despite his abrasiveness

    The faster you all accept that, the happier your every day lives will be.

  • Mark
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Isn't this all a tempest in a teapot? If Canada signs some kind of a trade deal with the EU, what possible components of that deal will not apply in Newfoundland? Will Danny send anti-EU customs patrol people to all of our airports and ferry terminals to confiscate European goods? Will our fish companies stop selling their Canadian products to Europe? It's all quite ridiculous. Whatever arrives in our province from Europe, and whatever goes from our province to the European market is not subject to very many provincial taxes or regulations. I suppose there are provincial taxes on alcohol, and there are provincial regulations with respect to the certification of certain professionals (e.g. doctors), but otherwise, what on earth is Our Dear Premier going to do about a Canada-EU deal? Really?

  • keith
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    So Danny Williams changed his mind, what's the big deal? I wanted to be Superman when I was young, I changed my mind very little chance of that happening, just like there's no chance in hell that the federal government will represent the best interest of our province. They will screw us and say It's in the best interest of our country . The only thing i didn't agree with that Danny Williams has done is to try to make peace with the federal government, it didn't take long for them to stick another knife in NL's back.

  • Bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    To Cynic from Pasadena: You are very welcome and excused. Now go eat your potato chips and be careful not to choke on one.

  • Martin
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Christine, surely you're not implying that after 60 years of neglect, all the province's woes are the result of a man who has been in power for just over 5 years? Seems a little unfair, don't you think?

  • tim
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    judging from past record of Danny Williams, minister taylor better have his bags packed and ready to move on. how did he dare have a different opinion than williams.

  • bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    all i can say
    is god help us if yvonne jones is our premier

  • Bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Unlike you Christine, these pollsters know what they are talking about.

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Obviously, idiotic comments by anonymous people are welcome, but opinions expressed boldly accompanied by a name is verboten. Go figure!

    Speak softly, everyone; musn't ruffle any feathers!

    I wonder if this correspondence has adhered to: 1) be polite; 2) be courteous; 3) discuss -- don't attack.

  • Terri
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Does anyone else think that this may actually hinder our province instead of helping us? We should have someone representing us during all International trade talks, even if we do, or do not agree with all aspects of the agreements. This will surely backfire on us.

  • cynic
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Thanks Bob. You seem a bit upset. I recommend slow deep breaths and find something amusing to think about. Perhaps a glance in the mirror will help.
    And who owns the Pollster company? Is it independently owned? Exactly how did they select the 420 people? Were they random?
    I don't have answers, but I do like questions.

  • keith
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    W McLean- Danny Williams negotiated the new atlantic accord remember the one that the federal conservatives voted against and it brought in 2 billion dollars right away and is still bringing in more money, not to mention all the future developments. Hibernia was just a start of a new oil industry but was still a sellout and Voisy's bay agreement is still not fully materialized, hopefully it does like Danny Williams future developments.

  • William
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Thanks to Danny the Province is left out, again!!!! When is the next election??

  • Huh?
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Marky Mark : ''Danny wants long term, employment and prosperity for its people''

    How does that make him any different from Grimes, Tobin, Wells, Peckford, Moores or Smallwood?

  • Bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Ahhhhh! I was beginning to doubt if anyone was going to bring up the when all else fails degrading self pitying Beyond The Overpass!!!!! BS. But lo and behold Christine, God love her did.

    Guess what Christine? I live in the Humber Valley; always did, always will and the misfortunes of those of us out here beyond the overpass has nothing to do with those who live inside the overpass.

    It's high time the rest of those who live beyond the overpass to stop begrudging those who don't, and make our own way in life. Just a matter of a little hard work and belief in ourselves out here beyond the overpass. Try it and stop your poor me crying!

  • Fred
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    The lies and cover ups by the oh so popular Williams Government continues. The best dictator we ever had lives on as he continues his journey to saint hood.

  • Johnny
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Christine...........420 is quite a valid random sample of our population..........you don't trust the professional pollsters to do their job in a scientific manner?

  • Danny for life
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    The name I chose is sarcasm by the way.

    Williams is determined to isolate this province it seems, and yet we continue to foist our gratitude and undying support upon the annointed one.

    But seriously, how can this province prosper if we take this isolationist tone with the rest of the world?

    Pleae Danny, make the concious decision to step down after this term.

  • Graham*
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Unlike you Bob we have a mind of our own and we know how to uise it we dont blindly follow Williams like you do. The truth hurts sometimes Bob. DEAL WITH IT.

  • Steve
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    As a former Newfoundlander now living in Alberta with hopes to one day return to NL, I have to say, all you people who have bashed Danny should leave the province.

    Change can not happen because Danny Williams is the Premier. In the words of Homer Simpson, 'Can't someone else do it?'. You assumed that just because ONE MAN assumed control of the province that things would happen over night?? GROW UP.

    To have change happen, it requires the collective will of a community and province - not, me, me, me, me, me, wages, wages, wages, wages!!!!

    But, lets take a step back and see what has happened under Danny Williams watch:

    $2 Billion Cheque from the Federal Government when the Atlantic Accord was renegotiated

    $2 Billion cheque was deposited into the NLTA Teacher's Pension Plan

    Atlantic Accord regotiated, now the Provinicial government is rolling in it

    Hebron Deal signed

    Vale Inco hydromet plant moving along closer to reality

    Now, I'm going to ask Christine a question and I hope she answers or someone does - if Danny isn't the person for the job, then who is? Who is worthy to be Premier of this Province??

    Why not instead of looking to Danny Williams to solve all your problems you start by solving them yourself.

  • B
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Hey Bob I just polled myself and I 100% disagree with the Williams government. Does that mean nobody in NL agrees with Danny Williams? Williams is making us all look like himself a whining cry baby. His reputation across Canada is giving all Newfoundlanders and Labradorians a bad name. We used to be known as funny, good natured people, now we are just looked at as just a bunch of spoiled brats. It is easy to lead when your province is raking in cash, but it takes real balls to lead when times are tough. Lets see how prepared this government is for the next couple of years. Have will be have not again, perhaps we can have a party for that as well. Polls are stupid and meaningless, and people are like sheep. Watchout people that first step over the cliff is a nasty one.

  • Christine
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Danny doesn't get paid??? What a joke!! He takes his paycheck just like every other politician. He uses it as a tax credit which might not mean that much to him But in the public eye it's a beautiful thing to do!! God love him...

    Nowhere did I say that all the problems here today are the result of one man. BUT I have not seen any improvement in the last few years.
    I do live out beyond the overpass BOB and I am a professional. I am a paid employee of the provincial government. Thankfully my degrees entitle me to have the job I have. I don't thank any politician for that which I have earned on my own and paid for on my own. I am talking about jobs that teenagers enjoy at better than minimun wage in the city and here are worked by adults sole supporters at Miinimum wage

  • steve
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    pssst......Trevor....call Fabian.....check to see if they have any openings.

  • Frank M
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Burke, Wiseman, Whalen and now Taylor.

    How much more of Danny's greatness can cover for these imbeciles?

  • W
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    And Marky Mark, under Danny's watch, the money from those terrible, awful, horrible Hibernia and Voisey's Bay deals has been rolling into the provincial treasury.

    What deals has Danny signed that are, right now, not, possibly, at some point in the future, generating provincial revenue?

  • Bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    To B from Nl: Seems to me that the only crybabies around here are you and people of the same opinion. Everyone else seems to be just fine. Need a tissue me son?

  • huh?
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Marky Mark, let's hear what's wrong with the Hibernia deal, and for that matter the Voisey's Bay deal. They've both reaped tremendous benfits for our province, ones which Danny has been happy to assume all credit for. And while you're at it, how will you explain away the fact that the ony deal your hero has to show so far is one in which he purchased an equity position in a project when oil was at the top of the market cycle, only to see it come crashing down in the months which followed. You can buy 5% of Hebron today for a fraction of what the Premier gave up, not to mention the fact that he gave up all of the potential employment saying that we wouldn't need the jobs. What a great negotiator. What a bargain. What foresight. What a joke.

  • NL_Expatriate@yahoo.ca
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Sad: the Provincial liberals obviously subscribe to the thought process any ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND.

    Unfortunately for the people of the province and the fishery that just means the provincial liberals are an enemy of Newfoundland and Labrador because no national PUPPET party in this TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY pollitical system is a friend of NL's 1.5%.

    Unopposed al of the national PROXY parties of teh Upper/Lower canada majority will allow the international TRAGEDY OF THE COMMONS to continue unabated outside the imaginary 200mile limit.

  • nate
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Danny Williams is widely regarded as a very entertaining clown in the rest of Canada. All Dannyboy is accomplishing here is a bunch of bluster.... and ensuring that NL doesn't have any say in an agreement that WILL ultimately affect your province. Good luck to you folks in getting a Premier who actually wants to advance NL's agenda, not stifle it.

  • Stan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Williams keeps playing his little games and the media keep falling for it.
    He will always attack someone outside the province to deflect heat from his own failing. That gives him a ready made scapegoat for all of NL's problems and keep people's minds off the scandals of his own.

  • Sandy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Why are so many people so obsessed with what those on the mainland thinks of us?

    The mainland opinion of Newfoundland and Labrador has been one of ridicule and disdain since we joined this so called democracy. Nothing is going to change that, so why care?

    We've always been a people who have taken care of our own and will continue to do so. Williams is just trying to do what we do best, take care of our own without having to depend on anyone or by belittling ourselves by begging or sucking up.

  • Fishy fishy fish
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Never in my recollection did I hear on the newes so often before the Williams administration that The premier was unavailable for comment... This is the case with this goverenment every other week when another issue arrises. When Joan Burke made an idiot of herself and her goverenment last summer the Premier was unavailabe for comment for over a week...apparently he was off partying on the mainland at a concert that week.... The mainland is just fine with him whenever it suits his fancy.. He just uses his millions to go off and party it up... And when he leaves office and every NL'er wants him tarred and feathered.. he'll have the money to dissappear too.. Not available for comment when the press, the scholars and his own people and the people everywhere want to know his stand on any touchy subject.

    St. Bon's means a great deal to Danny...Memorial University can go take a powder as far as he is concerened... Maybe he would like Grenfell to be a segragated stand alone institution modeled after St. Bons.

  • Phoebe Tilley
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Bob sounds a lot like our bewildered friend Bones. Ummmm I wonder. They both defend the master Danny. They both constantly watch this site to see who dare to say anything bad about the dictator and then just like magic another lame brain comment telling us we never had it so good. Well Bob or Bones or both I my friend have had it as good or better than the dream world we are all in now with Danny Williams and his ego driven temper tantrums and the look at me how great I am attitude. Cant you see that now he is useing this EU garbage to deflect attention away from the Cameron Enquiry and his Minister of NO CRISIS Wiseman. He has you people more worried about friggin seals than he does human lives that were lost because of the botched testing and the lies and coverups of the Williams Government. Popular well hell yeah hes popular just look here today and see who his biggest supporters are. Bob and his band of merry men with way too much time on their hands. Seals be dammed Bob. In my world human life is a hell of a lot more valuable than any seal skin coat worn by Danny Williams or anyone else.

  • Marky Mark
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    To all the Danny haters - name me a more suitable replacement - I dare you.

    When the rumours were swirling back in the late 90's and early 00's that Danny was eying Provincial politics all of you were getting in line for a chance to kiss his a$$!!!!

    He's not getting paid to do his job as Premier, he's doing what he thinks is best for Newfoundland and Labrador - is that such a terrible thing? Let me put it to you this way.All previous Premiers of this Province signed deals just for the sake of signing them and getting employment - in other words, fast tracked.

    Would any of you put your child in a crap school just because it was around the corner from your house? Of course not, you would want to ensure your child got the best education and resources offered.

    Danny is doing the same for this province - he's waiting for the right oppurtunities to come along so the people of this province can be self-sustaining. No more of this 6-12 month contract work BS that has plagued this province for years, Danny wants long term, employment and prosperity for its people - my God, what an A-Hole!

    Danny is the leader of the province and there's not a dam thing some wacko nut job on a newspaper blog can do about it.

    Nuff Said.

  • mose
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    stan from saskatoon:

    yes, the oldest game in politics.

  • Bayman
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    Yeah, das right b'ys. Its ALL Danny's fault. It always is.

    Really though, what do you expect? Is it really a better idea to elect another sheep like Grimes to lead this province, and roll over and pretend nothing happened when we get shafted again?

    You people who whine and moan about the premier standing up for this province seriously need to grow a pair.

    But I guess I am talking to the people who tend to run away crying, screaming I'M SORRY! at the slightest indication of confrontation.

    Bloody whimps.

  • mercedes
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    I'm nothing if not pragmatic! If Mr. Williams thinks he can do anything about this seal ban, he should go for it. We don't need to worry about alienating Ottawa; that's already done. And we don't need to worry about bad favor with the EU; that's already in play, obviously! But if he doesn't want to sit at that table, he should at least send a high ranking minister just to let us know what is going on there. I'm awfully dissappointed in Mr. Harper!

  • Jerome
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    Bob, you have your hero. We have always had heroes or saviours. Look no farther than Brian ( They sold the Shop ) Peckford to Tobin and the Estai. There was Clyde Wells when he returned to the province with tears in his eyes because Ottawa was trying to shaft us. What do they all have in common? They were given majorities in the ensuing elections. We need someone to save us. God help us.

  • Baxter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Bob old man if you believe in polls just look at the comments here today. Do you think His Holiness Danny is very popular with us.. Take off the blinders Bob and see what is really going on in this corrupt one man dictatorship you seem to lust after.Knowing that its people with such simple minds as you Bob that are Williams biggest supporters tells me all I need to know. What flavour of cool aid does he have you drinking today Bob?

  • Christine
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Well Bob 420 people polled does not make for a very good sampling!! It all depends on where you did the polling.
    I heard a young lady from the Burin Penninsula talking on NTV the other night. She talked about how great it was to be a have province!! I applaud her enthousiasm but the BurinPenninsula is not exactly reaping the rewards of the Have status!

  • KL
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Ms Jones may find it ironic but since that letter last August the Federal Gov't reneged on equalization, the EU implemented a ban on Seal prodoucts and our fisheries is still being abused....that justifies taking a stand don't you think?

  • randy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    What a national joke Danny has become..He may have been a big fish,while running a monopoly in the cable business of nl..Now he's just a small fish in a bigger pond,that other canadians and world leaders laugh at..DANNY WHO???

  • Christine
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Amen to that W McLean from ON!!!!

  • Chrostine
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    To Christine: Yes, we hear similar comments about the small numbers being polled during every election, yet in the end such polls always end up being accurate. So your point is?

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Rhodes Scholar. I played baeball against a Rhodes Scholar. He was pretty bad at baseball, but people were so fascinated with him being a Rhodes Scholar, they actually thought he was pretty good.

    Go figure.

  • Eli
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Mercedes suggests a high ranking official attend the EU social. I recommend Trevor. He can drive his government paid rental car across water and charge the mileage to his own vehicle.

  • cynic
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Thanks Bob for your advice. You'll have to excuse those of us who like to think for ourselves and express our opinions instead of just watching the latest poll and following whatever it says.
    Yeah, we must all be really dumb because apparently Danny has the only functioning brain in the province. The rest of us are just puppets. Good one, eh?

  • greg
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Order of importance-
    1. Danny Williams
    2. Danny Williams
    3. Danny Williams
    4. Continuing Danny Williams' feud with the Federal Government on being shafted once again.
    5. Newfoundland and Labrador
    6. Danny Williams

  • Christine
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    I love it when one looks around and sees the state of our healthcare, the conditions of our schools, and employment that pretty well ends when we go beyond the overpass and still folks like Bob can stand up and say, Good job, Danny! Good job!

  • Marky Mark
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    Huh? from NL

    I'll tell you how it makes them different -
    Danny Williams wants the best deal possible

    Those other premiers signed the first deal that crossed their desk.

    Churcihll Falls
    Hibernia
    Voisey's Bay

    This province has been its own worst enemy when it comes to signing over our resources to companies.

    Under Danny's watch, that hasn't happened.

    It's been 60 years of stupidity, 5 years of fighting for what's rightfully ours.

  • Bones
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    Pheobe, do you mean the same Cameron Inquiry that was called by the current government? lol Why would they deflect attention when it names, specifically, Eastern Health as the place where the breakdown caused this problem? Oh Right, lol, you didn't read the report, did you? lol

    Christine: You should talk to the bosses of all these poor people working for min wage. I doubt they work for the government, so someone else should shoulder the responsibility for their crappy wages. You, however, have a provincial government job, lol, talk about biting the hand that feeds, but I digress. You know as well as me that your job is the next best thing to guaranteed for the rest of your days unless you screw up pretty big...and I seriously doubt you can complain about making minimum wage.

    Do you realize that more cash in NL makes for a much better bargaining position, come union contract negotiating time? Do you think the province and the nurses would be having this dispute if we were as flush with cash as we should be, regarding our historical resource giveaways?

    You should also also consider the 60+ years we have been equals in the nation. Why would you start complaining at a time your province has the most fantastic economy it has ever known?

    W McLean: I agree, lots of cash has poured in by those, supposedly, terrible deals. I can't help but wonder how much more they would be worth had Danny negotiated them, lol. Don't you? Could we have potentially lost equity stakes in these worth billions over the last price surges? I think we did. Ownership was the farthest thing from any prior governments mind, which is funny, since NL owns the resources, lol.

    I'm going invisible now.....c ya all tomorrow, lol

  • Bob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    To Terri, the Nurses and the very small minority out there who share your opinion:

    Judging by the latest poll, not many here feel he's hindering the province one bit. In fact, it seems that his naysayers here are doing more to hinder this province by giving the false impression in blogs such as this that he has little support here.

    This sounds a lot like the old Andy Wells naysayers and like Andy, Danny Williams will be around until he and he alone decides it's time to move on. Why? Because like Andy, people feel he's doing a good job, despite his abrasiveness

    The faster you all accept that, the happier your every day lives will be.

  • Mark
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Isn't this all a tempest in a teapot? If Canada signs some kind of a trade deal with the EU, what possible components of that deal will not apply in Newfoundland? Will Danny send anti-EU customs patrol people to all of our airports and ferry terminals to confiscate European goods? Will our fish companies stop selling their Canadian products to Europe? It's all quite ridiculous. Whatever arrives in our province from Europe, and whatever goes from our province to the European market is not subject to very many provincial taxes or regulations. I suppose there are provincial taxes on alcohol, and there are provincial regulations with respect to the certification of certain professionals (e.g. doctors), but otherwise, what on earth is Our Dear Premier going to do about a Canada-EU deal? Really?

  • keith
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    So Danny Williams changed his mind, what's the big deal? I wanted to be Superman when I was young, I changed my mind very little chance of that happening, just like there's no chance in hell that the federal government will represent the best interest of our province. They will screw us and say It's in the best interest of our country . The only thing i didn't agree with that Danny Williams has done is to try to make peace with the federal government, it didn't take long for them to stick another knife in NL's back.

  • Bob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    To Cynic from Pasadena: You are very welcome and excused. Now go eat your potato chips and be careful not to choke on one.

  • Martin
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    Christine, surely you're not implying that after 60 years of neglect, all the province's woes are the result of a man who has been in power for just over 5 years? Seems a little unfair, don't you think?

  • tim
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    judging from past record of Danny Williams, minister taylor better have his bags packed and ready to move on. how did he dare have a different opinion than williams.

  • bob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    all i can say
    is god help us if yvonne jones is our premier

  • Bob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Unlike you Christine, these pollsters know what they are talking about.

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Obviously, idiotic comments by anonymous people are welcome, but opinions expressed boldly accompanied by a name is verboten. Go figure!

    Speak softly, everyone; musn't ruffle any feathers!

    I wonder if this correspondence has adhered to: 1) be polite; 2) be courteous; 3) discuss -- don't attack.

  • Terri
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Does anyone else think that this may actually hinder our province instead of helping us? We should have someone representing us during all International trade talks, even if we do, or do not agree with all aspects of the agreements. This will surely backfire on us.

  • cynic
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Thanks Bob. You seem a bit upset. I recommend slow deep breaths and find something amusing to think about. Perhaps a glance in the mirror will help.
    And who owns the Pollster company? Is it independently owned? Exactly how did they select the 420 people? Were they random?
    I don't have answers, but I do like questions.

  • keith
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    W McLean- Danny Williams negotiated the new atlantic accord remember the one that the federal conservatives voted against and it brought in 2 billion dollars right away and is still bringing in more money, not to mention all the future developments. Hibernia was just a start of a new oil industry but was still a sellout and Voisy's bay agreement is still not fully materialized, hopefully it does like Danny Williams future developments.

  • William
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    Thanks to Danny the Province is left out, again!!!! When is the next election??

  • Huh?
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    Marky Mark : ''Danny wants long term, employment and prosperity for its people''

    How does that make him any different from Grimes, Tobin, Wells, Peckford, Moores or Smallwood?

  • Bob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    Ahhhhh! I was beginning to doubt if anyone was going to bring up the when all else fails degrading self pitying Beyond The Overpass!!!!! BS. But lo and behold Christine, God love her did.

    Guess what Christine? I live in the Humber Valley; always did, always will and the misfortunes of those of us out here beyond the overpass has nothing to do with those who live inside the overpass.

    It's high time the rest of those who live beyond the overpass to stop begrudging those who don't, and make our own way in life. Just a matter of a little hard work and belief in ourselves out here beyond the overpass. Try it and stop your poor me crying!

  • Fred
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    The lies and cover ups by the oh so popular Williams Government continues. The best dictator we ever had lives on as he continues his journey to saint hood.

  • Johnny
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    Christine...........420 is quite a valid random sample of our population..........you don't trust the professional pollsters to do their job in a scientific manner?

  • Danny for life
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    The name I chose is sarcasm by the way.

    Williams is determined to isolate this province it seems, and yet we continue to foist our gratitude and undying support upon the annointed one.

    But seriously, how can this province prosper if we take this isolationist tone with the rest of the world?

    Pleae Danny, make the concious decision to step down after this term.

  • Graham*
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    Unlike you Bob we have a mind of our own and we know how to uise it we dont blindly follow Williams like you do. The truth hurts sometimes Bob. DEAL WITH IT.

  • Steve
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    As a former Newfoundlander now living in Alberta with hopes to one day return to NL, I have to say, all you people who have bashed Danny should leave the province.

    Change can not happen because Danny Williams is the Premier. In the words of Homer Simpson, 'Can't someone else do it?'. You assumed that just because ONE MAN assumed control of the province that things would happen over night?? GROW UP.

    To have change happen, it requires the collective will of a community and province - not, me, me, me, me, me, wages, wages, wages, wages!!!!

    But, lets take a step back and see what has happened under Danny Williams watch:

    $2 Billion Cheque from the Federal Government when the Atlantic Accord was renegotiated

    $2 Billion cheque was deposited into the NLTA Teacher's Pension Plan

    Atlantic Accord regotiated, now the Provinicial government is rolling in it

    Hebron Deal signed

    Vale Inco hydromet plant moving along closer to reality

    Now, I'm going to ask Christine a question and I hope she answers or someone does - if Danny isn't the person for the job, then who is? Who is worthy to be Premier of this Province??

    Why not instead of looking to Danny Williams to solve all your problems you start by solving them yourself.

  • B
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    Hey Bob I just polled myself and I 100% disagree with the Williams government. Does that mean nobody in NL agrees with Danny Williams? Williams is making us all look like himself a whining cry baby. His reputation across Canada is giving all Newfoundlanders and Labradorians a bad name. We used to be known as funny, good natured people, now we are just looked at as just a bunch of spoiled brats. It is easy to lead when your province is raking in cash, but it takes real balls to lead when times are tough. Lets see how prepared this government is for the next couple of years. Have will be have not again, perhaps we can have a party for that as well. Polls are stupid and meaningless, and people are like sheep. Watchout people that first step over the cliff is a nasty one.

  • Christine
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Danny doesn't get paid??? What a joke!! He takes his paycheck just like every other politician. He uses it as a tax credit which might not mean that much to him But in the public eye it's a beautiful thing to do!! God love him...

    Nowhere did I say that all the problems here today are the result of one man. BUT I have not seen any improvement in the last few years.
    I do live out beyond the overpass BOB and I am a professional. I am a paid employee of the provincial government. Thankfully my degrees entitle me to have the job I have. I don't thank any politician for that which I have earned on my own and paid for on my own. I am talking about jobs that teenagers enjoy at better than minimun wage in the city and here are worked by adults sole supporters at Miinimum wage

  • steve
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    pssst......Trevor....call Fabian.....check to see if they have any openings.

  • Frank M
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    Burke, Wiseman, Whalen and now Taylor.

    How much more of Danny's greatness can cover for these imbeciles?

  • W
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    And Marky Mark, under Danny's watch, the money from those terrible, awful, horrible Hibernia and Voisey's Bay deals has been rolling into the provincial treasury.

    What deals has Danny signed that are, right now, not, possibly, at some point in the future, generating provincial revenue?

  • Bob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    To B from Nl: Seems to me that the only crybabies around here are you and people of the same opinion. Everyone else seems to be just fine. Need a tissue me son?

  • huh?
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Marky Mark, let's hear what's wrong with the Hibernia deal, and for that matter the Voisey's Bay deal. They've both reaped tremendous benfits for our province, ones which Danny has been happy to assume all credit for. And while you're at it, how will you explain away the fact that the ony deal your hero has to show so far is one in which he purchased an equity position in a project when oil was at the top of the market cycle, only to see it come crashing down in the months which followed. You can buy 5% of Hebron today for a fraction of what the Premier gave up, not to mention the fact that he gave up all of the potential employment saying that we wouldn't need the jobs. What a great negotiator. What a bargain. What foresight. What a joke.

  • NL_Expatriate@yahoo.ca
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Sad: the Provincial liberals obviously subscribe to the thought process any ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND.

    Unfortunately for the people of the province and the fishery that just means the provincial liberals are an enemy of Newfoundland and Labrador because no national PUPPET party in this TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY pollitical system is a friend of NL's 1.5%.

    Unopposed al of the national PROXY parties of teh Upper/Lower canada majority will allow the international TRAGEDY OF THE COMMONS to continue unabated outside the imaginary 200mile limit.

  • nate
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Danny Williams is widely regarded as a very entertaining clown in the rest of Canada. All Dannyboy is accomplishing here is a bunch of bluster.... and ensuring that NL doesn't have any say in an agreement that WILL ultimately affect your province. Good luck to you folks in getting a Premier who actually wants to advance NL's agenda, not stifle it.

  • Stan
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Williams keeps playing his little games and the media keep falling for it.
    He will always attack someone outside the province to deflect heat from his own failing. That gives him a ready made scapegoat for all of NL's problems and keep people's minds off the scandals of his own.

  • Sandy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Why are so many people so obsessed with what those on the mainland thinks of us?

    The mainland opinion of Newfoundland and Labrador has been one of ridicule and disdain since we joined this so called democracy. Nothing is going to change that, so why care?

    We've always been a people who have taken care of our own and will continue to do so. Williams is just trying to do what we do best, take care of our own without having to depend on anyone or by belittling ourselves by begging or sucking up.

  • Fishy fishy fish
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Never in my recollection did I hear on the newes so often before the Williams administration that The premier was unavailable for comment... This is the case with this goverenment every other week when another issue arrises. When Joan Burke made an idiot of herself and her goverenment last summer the Premier was unavailabe for comment for over a week...apparently he was off partying on the mainland at a concert that week.... The mainland is just fine with him whenever it suits his fancy.. He just uses his millions to go off and party it up... And when he leaves office and every NL'er wants him tarred and feathered.. he'll have the money to dissappear too.. Not available for comment when the press, the scholars and his own people and the people everywhere want to know his stand on any touchy subject.

    St. Bon's means a great deal to Danny...Memorial University can go take a powder as far as he is concerened... Maybe he would like Grenfell to be a segragated stand alone institution modeled after St. Bons.

  • Phoebe Tilley
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    Bob sounds a lot like our bewildered friend Bones. Ummmm I wonder. They both defend the master Danny. They both constantly watch this site to see who dare to say anything bad about the dictator and then just like magic another lame brain comment telling us we never had it so good. Well Bob or Bones or both I my friend have had it as good or better than the dream world we are all in now with Danny Williams and his ego driven temper tantrums and the look at me how great I am attitude. Cant you see that now he is useing this EU garbage to deflect attention away from the Cameron Enquiry and his Minister of NO CRISIS Wiseman. He has you people more worried about friggin seals than he does human lives that were lost because of the botched testing and the lies and coverups of the Williams Government. Popular well hell yeah hes popular just look here today and see who his biggest supporters are. Bob and his band of merry men with way too much time on their hands. Seals be dammed Bob. In my world human life is a hell of a lot more valuable than any seal skin coat worn by Danny Williams or anyone else.

  • Marky Mark
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    To all the Danny haters - name me a more suitable replacement - I dare you.

    When the rumours were swirling back in the late 90's and early 00's that Danny was eying Provincial politics all of you were getting in line for a chance to kiss his a$$!!!!

    He's not getting paid to do his job as Premier, he's doing what he thinks is best for Newfoundland and Labrador - is that such a terrible thing? Let me put it to you this way.All previous Premiers of this Province signed deals just for the sake of signing them and getting employment - in other words, fast tracked.

    Would any of you put your child in a crap school just because it was around the corner from your house? Of course not, you would want to ensure your child got the best education and resources offered.

    Danny is doing the same for this province - he's waiting for the right oppurtunities to come along so the people of this province can be self-sustaining. No more of this 6-12 month contract work BS that has plagued this province for years, Danny wants long term, employment and prosperity for its people - my God, what an A-Hole!

    Danny is the leader of the province and there's not a dam thing some wacko nut job on a newspaper blog can do about it.

    Nuff Said.

  • mose
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    stan from saskatoon:

    yes, the oldest game in politics.

  • Bayman
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    Yeah, das right b'ys. Its ALL Danny's fault. It always is.

    Really though, what do you expect? Is it really a better idea to elect another sheep like Grimes to lead this province, and roll over and pretend nothing happened when we get shafted again?

    You people who whine and moan about the premier standing up for this province seriously need to grow a pair.

    But I guess I am talking to the people who tend to run away crying, screaming I'M SORRY! at the slightest indication of confrontation.

    Bloody whimps.

  • mercedes
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    I'm nothing if not pragmatic! If Mr. Williams thinks he can do anything about this seal ban, he should go for it. We don't need to worry about alienating Ottawa; that's already done. And we don't need to worry about bad favor with the EU; that's already in play, obviously! But if he doesn't want to sit at that table, he should at least send a high ranking minister just to let us know what is going on there. I'm awfully dissappointed in Mr. Harper!

  • Jerome
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    Bob, you have your hero. We have always had heroes or saviours. Look no farther than Brian ( They sold the Shop ) Peckford to Tobin and the Estai. There was Clyde Wells when he returned to the province with tears in his eyes because Ottawa was trying to shaft us. What do they all have in common? They were given majorities in the ensuing elections. We need someone to save us. God help us.

  • Baxter
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    Bob old man if you believe in polls just look at the comments here today. Do you think His Holiness Danny is very popular with us.. Take off the blinders Bob and see what is really going on in this corrupt one man dictatorship you seem to lust after.Knowing that its people with such simple minds as you Bob that are Williams biggest supporters tells me all I need to know. What flavour of cool aid does he have you drinking today Bob?

  • Christine
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Well Bob 420 people polled does not make for a very good sampling!! It all depends on where you did the polling.
    I heard a young lady from the Burin Penninsula talking on NTV the other night. She talked about how great it was to be a have province!! I applaud her enthousiasm but the BurinPenninsula is not exactly reaping the rewards of the Have status!

  • KL
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Ms Jones may find it ironic but since that letter last August the Federal Gov't reneged on equalization, the EU implemented a ban on Seal prodoucts and our fisheries is still being abused....that justifies taking a stand don't you think?

  • randy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    What a national joke Danny has become..He may have been a big fish,while running a monopoly in the cable business of nl..Now he's just a small fish in a bigger pond,that other canadians and world leaders laugh at..DANNY WHO???

  • Christine
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    Amen to that W McLean from ON!!!!

  • Chrostine
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    To Christine: Yes, we hear similar comments about the small numbers being polled during every election, yet in the end such polls always end up being accurate. So your point is?

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Rhodes Scholar. I played baeball against a Rhodes Scholar. He was pretty bad at baseball, but people were so fascinated with him being a Rhodes Scholar, they actually thought he was pretty good.

    Go figure.

  • Eli
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Mercedes suggests a high ranking official attend the EU social. I recommend Trevor. He can drive his government paid rental car across water and charge the mileage to his own vehicle.

  • cynic
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    Thanks Bob for your advice. You'll have to excuse those of us who like to think for ourselves and express our opinions instead of just watching the latest poll and following whatever it says.
    Yeah, we must all be really dumb because apparently Danny has the only functioning brain in the province. The rest of us are just puppets. Good one, eh?

  • greg
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Order of importance-
    1. Danny Williams
    2. Danny Williams
    3. Danny Williams
    4. Continuing Danny Williams' feud with the Federal Government on being shafted once again.
    5. Newfoundland and Labrador
    6. Danny Williams