'Bring it on,' Andrews tells Manning

Rob Antle
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Avalon MP Scott Andrews says Senator Fabian Manning should resign immediately if he plans to challenge him in the next federal election.

"If Mr. Manning wants to come back and run, I'm sure he's more than welcome to, but if he is, it's time for him to resign his Senate seat and get on the campaign trail and stop using his cushy Senate job ... for campaigning purposes," Andrews said in an interview this week.

Scott Andrews, left, Fabian Manning.

Avalon MP Scott Andrews says Senator Fabian Manning should resign immediately if he plans to challenge him in the next federal election.

"If Mr. Manning wants to come back and run, I'm sure he's more than welcome to, but if he is, it's time for him to resign his Senate seat and get on the campaign trail and stop using his cushy Senate job ... for campaigning purposes," Andrews said in an interview this week.

Andrews was reacting to a story in last Friday's Telegram.

Manning strongly hinted he plans a new bid for his old job in the House of Commons whenever the next election rolls around.

But Andrews accused Manning of using his current appointment for partisan purposes in the riding.

"If he's going to use government resources - this is typical of the Conservative Party - and if he's going to be (going) about this, listen, come on, bring it on, and get out there and resign your Senate seat, and let's move on," Andrews said.

Manning, meanwhile, shot back at those comments, criticizing Andrews' record in Ottawa. He said Andrews changed his vote on the 2009 federal budget and a pending private member's bill to abolish the long-gun registry.

"I'm not sure whether it's an Andrews flop day or an Andrews flip day, so really I wouldn't be able to stand and take his advice on any of that."

Manning also noted that Andrews did not resign from his municipal council seat in Conception Bay South when he ran for Parliament in 2008.

"He didn't step down then, so why should I have to step down when the election may be a year, a year and a half, two years away?" Manning said.

Andrews won the Liberal nomination in January 2008. According to C.B.S. town officials, he took an unpaid leave of absence on Sept. 7, the day of the federal election call, and resigned Oct. 15 - the day after his victory at the polls.

Andrews was aided by Premier Danny Williams's so-called ABC campaign that helped vanquish all Conservative candidates in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Manning had taken the riding for the Conservatives in 2006.

After Andrews defeated Manning in 2008, the prime minister appointed Manning to the Senate.

If Manning opts to again run in Avalon, it would set up an interesting rematch.

In a minority House of Commons, an election is possible at any time.

Ultimately, said Andrews, it will be up to the constituents of Avalon to make their choice.

"The people will decide whether they want me or him there," he said.

rantle@thetelegram.com

Organizations: House of Commons, Conservative Party, Conservatives

Geographic location: Ottawa, Avalon, Conception Bay South Newfoundland and Labrador

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  • Ed
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    If I was Andrews I would be quite nervous right now, the ONLY reason he won was because of ABC Campaign, and I can promise you the NL folk have realised that got us no where, THERE WILL BE CONSERVATIVES ELECTED NEXT ELECTION!!

  • robroy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    the Pcs have already started the assult on Mr.Andrews. And will keep at it/ Mr Manning if you say Mr Andrews took unpaid leave should you not do the same. Mr Andrews got there on his own merrits. You sir is being carried by the government and being given millions of dollars to buy your job Be a man face Mr Andrews on a level playing field You once had guts and stood up for what you felt was right. do it again. show your merrits and not Harpers

  • Manuel
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    As far as im concerned they are both acting like preschool students fighting over the crayons.
    Both of these men should step down from their positions until they grow up. I mean who says as a child, I want to be a snotty childish politician who takes everything to the media and kick up a stink because someone wants my job and can probally do it better when i grow up.
    We need to kick all these idiots out of office and get new young blood in there. I am sick and tired of all the fighting in our government. If these highly educated stupid people would work together how much more productive could they be. We all know they wont work together. It will be continious fighting to see who can out color the other.
    I must appoligize to the preschoolers out there as im sure even they arent this childish.

  • doug
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    Mr. Manning, who do you think you are kidding??? There's no way in hell he would give up such a good job (which he didn't deserve). I am amazed that he ever got into politics. I bet he wouldn't make a good store manager! He's just using this to get his name in the papers. He betrayed NL. Stay in Ottawa and keep brown nosing Harper while he still has a job.

  • chrishelle
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    dec 2009 A year ago this month, mere weeks after his finance ministers emotional sermon on government thrift, Stephen Harper appointed a record 18 Senators. Senators, including top-spender Fabian Manning, who together have charged a staggering $1.08 million in travel and office expenses on top of their $132,300 salary in the first three months of 2009
    stay where you are my son

  • Felex
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Fabian ba I hope you are managing to keep that good 'ol federal money spent!
    At least you went to bat for the fishermen when Dictator and that clown from the Northeren Peninsula tried to pass the fishermen's quotas over to the plants.
    That puppet Felex is gettin off pretty good though, not a sound out of her.

  • Greg
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Mr. Andrews has not distinguished himself in Ottawa or in the eyes of Newfoundlanders.

    Just another bump on the parliamentray log.

    Andrews and Coady are the ones who are jeopardy and their slim majorities last time show that. The ABC campaign is the reason why they are currently there. Both were given a chance to prove themselves and so far neither has amounted to much.

  • Wince
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Scott hasn't been given a proper chance to betray the province yet. Give it time.

  • McManus
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Pete:

    You assume Ryan Cleary may be the natural challenger to Siobhan Coady.

    With no ABC campaign, the Conservative candidate would have a fair shot at it as the seat is traditionally Conservative.

    To date 3 prominent individuals are looking at running in St. John's South - Mount Pearl for the federal Conservative party.

    If you examine the election results from the last federal election which was affected by the Williams ABC campaign, the numbers from the Official Elections Canada results show that the Conservative vote collapse went almost entirely to the NDP.

    Siobhan Coady only gained about a thousand votes from her 2 other electoral challenges in that seat.

    If there is no ABC interference from danny Williams, St. John's South - Mount Pearl is in play for either a Conservtaive or NDP challenge.

  • Political Watcher
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    I am guessing that Mr. Andrews has a memory problem; afterall, his leader allowed him to vote against the last Federal budget in a ceremonial vote that meant nothing and he will remind you of that. When the real vote came that meant everything including passing of the budget and dtealing from Newfoundland & Labrador, Mr. Andrews and company stood in support.
    Two wrongs don't make a right but at least have the guts to stand up and accept you did it.

  • sniff
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    careful scotty.danny might shake you off his coat tail.

  • Victor
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    I thought the guy who made a seal clubbing game was foolish! But the thought of Coady in cabinet is hilarious!!

    Coady spends her time criticizing the crook Rahim Jaffer but proving he is a crook does nothing for Newfoundland or St. John's and Mount Pearl. Messed up priorities there.

  • William
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Let's see. Before the speaker for the house of commons was to rule on government ethics violations, the releasing of documents, a couple of things happened. Fabian floats the idea that he might leave his political 649 job and Danny is hastily invited for a meeting with Steve and his top guys. Scott if a deal gets done and Steve can tell Fabian to go home and stop worrying about the boogieman then thanks, your job is done. So the speaker ruled and now the polling starts ... how much does Steve really need seven seats?

  • Mr. Soundoff
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Accepting that seat to the House of Snooze will live with you forever Fabe b'y. Best to get a subscription to Readers Digest and sit back for the next 40 years up in Ottawa

  • Rusty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    The Liberals will form the next government? Now that's funny....

  • member of the 20%
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Ah Scottie, things might be different this time around if Dan doesnt interfere and give the instructions to his sheep followers to stay home and not vote. You'll be one of the Blue Liberals who will all be looking for a job after the next election. And, I wasn't sure you actually made it to Ottawa; have you been muzzled? You must have had a comment to say about something? No?

  • Huh?
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    'it will be up to the constituents of Avalon to make their choice.' And not much of a choice between these two - Manning using his Senate seat to campaign and Andrews against the AG from auditing his spending.

  • Chuck
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Mouseland: You have to vote for somebody. Scott Andrews has done nothing to represent the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. I would give Fabian my vote because he is a good man who made one poor political decision. He deserves another chance. Andrews ran his campaign and stressed the fact that Manning turned his back on Newfoundland. The first chance Andrews had to stand up for our people, he sat down!

  • Mark
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    Fabian,
    Give your head a shake man. Why would you ever give up the the cushiest job in Canada to attempt to re-enter the thankless, asinine world of Federal politics.
    If Canadians want to grossly over pay you for a part time job, take it with a grin and ride the wave.
    Trust me, Andrews would change seats with you (pardon the pun) immediately if he could.
    Stay the course; drink the gravy.

  • William
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    Mr. Manning is bluffing. It wasn't just ABC that won the seat. This seat is mostly the old Trinity-Conception & Bonavista-Trinity-Conception seat. Check out how many years since 1949 it has been PC and Manning isn't PC he's just C (Reform)

  • Chuck
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    I voted for Andrews last time because Manning turned his back on the province, but Andrews did the exact same thing when he had a chance to stand up for the province. Come back Fabian, you've got my vote!

  • Keith
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Yes Fabian, Scott was elected to Council unlike you who was appointed by your buddy Stephen Harper for betraying NL.... BIG difference!

  • Randy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Why do people give these deadbeats any second thought anyway?? Don't our people have enough common sense to understand that these bottom-feedrs are getting rich beyond our imaginations because us foolish Nefs are silly enough to believe their fruitless lies, promises, and other hretorical nonsense! How can anybody who listens to 10 seconds of Manning speak, give the hick a vote?? He's the ultimate bottom-feedr , a real parasitic leach! Don't vote for any of them!! They are the lowest of society, never doing an honest thing for anybody but themselves! Trash!!!

  • Polly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Mouseland ---- I love your logic .

  • Robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Andrews better be careful what he wishes for. With no ABC campaign, he's going to have to stand on the merits of his party and lame leadership.
    Good luck with that.

  • Pete
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Greg from St. John's, NL writes:
    Andrews and Coady are the ones who are jeopardy and their slim majorities last time show that. The ABC campaign is the reason why they are currently there. Both were given a chance to prove themselves and so far neither has amounted to much.
    ---------
    Hopefully the people of St. John's South-Mount Pearl aren't dumb enough to vote out Siobhan Coady, especially if it means electing Ryan Cleary. The Liberals will form the next government and why wouldn't a riding want to have a high-profile Cabinet Minister Siobhan Coady representing them?

  • Mouseland
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    I love your reasoning, Chuck: Manning turned his back on the province (which sector, you don't say) so I voted for Andrews, but he turned his back on the province, so I'm voting for Manning... Newfoundland logic at its finest. It reminds me of the story of the mice voting for the black cats. When they turned on the mice, they voted for the white cats until they too turned on the mice, at which point they voted for the black cats.... (Then didn't consider voting for a mouse).

  • Jordan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Andrews is correct! Fabian shouldn't be using tax payers money to fly around the country announcing money while he is in an unelected Senator, just to try and win back his seat. Trying to compare his cushy appointed job to an elected town councillor is ridiculous, he is also not one to talk about the way someone votes on matters that effect our province. He's a trader.

  • Ed
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    If I was Andrews I would be quite nervous right now, the ONLY reason he won was because of ABC Campaign, and I can promise you the NL folk have realised that got us no where, THERE WILL BE CONSERVATIVES ELECTED NEXT ELECTION!!

  • robroy
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    the Pcs have already started the assult on Mr.Andrews. And will keep at it/ Mr Manning if you say Mr Andrews took unpaid leave should you not do the same. Mr Andrews got there on his own merrits. You sir is being carried by the government and being given millions of dollars to buy your job Be a man face Mr Andrews on a level playing field You once had guts and stood up for what you felt was right. do it again. show your merrits and not Harpers

  • Manuel
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    As far as im concerned they are both acting like preschool students fighting over the crayons.
    Both of these men should step down from their positions until they grow up. I mean who says as a child, I want to be a snotty childish politician who takes everything to the media and kick up a stink because someone wants my job and can probally do it better when i grow up.
    We need to kick all these idiots out of office and get new young blood in there. I am sick and tired of all the fighting in our government. If these highly educated stupid people would work together how much more productive could they be. We all know they wont work together. It will be continious fighting to see who can out color the other.
    I must appoligize to the preschoolers out there as im sure even they arent this childish.

  • doug
    July 01, 2010 - 20:14

    Mr. Manning, who do you think you are kidding??? There's no way in hell he would give up such a good job (which he didn't deserve). I am amazed that he ever got into politics. I bet he wouldn't make a good store manager! He's just using this to get his name in the papers. He betrayed NL. Stay in Ottawa and keep brown nosing Harper while he still has a job.

  • chrishelle
    July 01, 2010 - 20:14

    dec 2009 A year ago this month, mere weeks after his finance ministers emotional sermon on government thrift, Stephen Harper appointed a record 18 Senators. Senators, including top-spender Fabian Manning, who together have charged a staggering $1.08 million in travel and office expenses on top of their $132,300 salary in the first three months of 2009
    stay where you are my son

  • Felex
    July 01, 2010 - 20:14

    Fabian ba I hope you are managing to keep that good 'ol federal money spent!
    At least you went to bat for the fishermen when Dictator and that clown from the Northeren Peninsula tried to pass the fishermen's quotas over to the plants.
    That puppet Felex is gettin off pretty good though, not a sound out of her.

  • Greg
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Mr. Andrews has not distinguished himself in Ottawa or in the eyes of Newfoundlanders.

    Just another bump on the parliamentray log.

    Andrews and Coady are the ones who are jeopardy and their slim majorities last time show that. The ABC campaign is the reason why they are currently there. Both were given a chance to prove themselves and so far neither has amounted to much.

  • Wince
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Scott hasn't been given a proper chance to betray the province yet. Give it time.

  • McManus
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    Pete:

    You assume Ryan Cleary may be the natural challenger to Siobhan Coady.

    With no ABC campaign, the Conservative candidate would have a fair shot at it as the seat is traditionally Conservative.

    To date 3 prominent individuals are looking at running in St. John's South - Mount Pearl for the federal Conservative party.

    If you examine the election results from the last federal election which was affected by the Williams ABC campaign, the numbers from the Official Elections Canada results show that the Conservative vote collapse went almost entirely to the NDP.

    Siobhan Coady only gained about a thousand votes from her 2 other electoral challenges in that seat.

    If there is no ABC interference from danny Williams, St. John's South - Mount Pearl is in play for either a Conservtaive or NDP challenge.

  • Political Watcher
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    I am guessing that Mr. Andrews has a memory problem; afterall, his leader allowed him to vote against the last Federal budget in a ceremonial vote that meant nothing and he will remind you of that. When the real vote came that meant everything including passing of the budget and dtealing from Newfoundland & Labrador, Mr. Andrews and company stood in support.
    Two wrongs don't make a right but at least have the guts to stand up and accept you did it.

  • sniff
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    careful scotty.danny might shake you off his coat tail.

  • Victor
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    I thought the guy who made a seal clubbing game was foolish! But the thought of Coady in cabinet is hilarious!!

    Coady spends her time criticizing the crook Rahim Jaffer but proving he is a crook does nothing for Newfoundland or St. John's and Mount Pearl. Messed up priorities there.

  • William
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    Let's see. Before the speaker for the house of commons was to rule on government ethics violations, the releasing of documents, a couple of things happened. Fabian floats the idea that he might leave his political 649 job and Danny is hastily invited for a meeting with Steve and his top guys. Scott if a deal gets done and Steve can tell Fabian to go home and stop worrying about the boogieman then thanks, your job is done. So the speaker ruled and now the polling starts ... how much does Steve really need seven seats?

  • Mr. Soundoff
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    Accepting that seat to the House of Snooze will live with you forever Fabe b'y. Best to get a subscription to Readers Digest and sit back for the next 40 years up in Ottawa

  • Rusty
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    The Liberals will form the next government? Now that's funny....

  • member of the 20%
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Ah Scottie, things might be different this time around if Dan doesnt interfere and give the instructions to his sheep followers to stay home and not vote. You'll be one of the Blue Liberals who will all be looking for a job after the next election. And, I wasn't sure you actually made it to Ottawa; have you been muzzled? You must have had a comment to say about something? No?

  • Huh?
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    'it will be up to the constituents of Avalon to make their choice.' And not much of a choice between these two - Manning using his Senate seat to campaign and Andrews against the AG from auditing his spending.

  • Chuck
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Mouseland: You have to vote for somebody. Scott Andrews has done nothing to represent the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. I would give Fabian my vote because he is a good man who made one poor political decision. He deserves another chance. Andrews ran his campaign and stressed the fact that Manning turned his back on Newfoundland. The first chance Andrews had to stand up for our people, he sat down!

  • Mark
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    Fabian,
    Give your head a shake man. Why would you ever give up the the cushiest job in Canada to attempt to re-enter the thankless, asinine world of Federal politics.
    If Canadians want to grossly over pay you for a part time job, take it with a grin and ride the wave.
    Trust me, Andrews would change seats with you (pardon the pun) immediately if he could.
    Stay the course; drink the gravy.

  • William
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    Mr. Manning is bluffing. It wasn't just ABC that won the seat. This seat is mostly the old Trinity-Conception & Bonavista-Trinity-Conception seat. Check out how many years since 1949 it has been PC and Manning isn't PC he's just C (Reform)

  • Chuck
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    I voted for Andrews last time because Manning turned his back on the province, but Andrews did the exact same thing when he had a chance to stand up for the province. Come back Fabian, you've got my vote!

  • Keith
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    Yes Fabian, Scott was elected to Council unlike you who was appointed by your buddy Stephen Harper for betraying NL.... BIG difference!

  • Randy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    Why do people give these deadbeats any second thought anyway?? Don't our people have enough common sense to understand that these bottom-feedrs are getting rich beyond our imaginations because us foolish Nefs are silly enough to believe their fruitless lies, promises, and other hretorical nonsense! How can anybody who listens to 10 seconds of Manning speak, give the hick a vote?? He's the ultimate bottom-feedr , a real parasitic leach! Don't vote for any of them!! They are the lowest of society, never doing an honest thing for anybody but themselves! Trash!!!

  • Polly
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Mouseland ---- I love your logic .

  • Robert
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    Andrews better be careful what he wishes for. With no ABC campaign, he's going to have to stand on the merits of his party and lame leadership.
    Good luck with that.

  • Pete
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Greg from St. John's, NL writes:
    Andrews and Coady are the ones who are jeopardy and their slim majorities last time show that. The ABC campaign is the reason why they are currently there. Both were given a chance to prove themselves and so far neither has amounted to much.
    ---------
    Hopefully the people of St. John's South-Mount Pearl aren't dumb enough to vote out Siobhan Coady, especially if it means electing Ryan Cleary. The Liberals will form the next government and why wouldn't a riding want to have a high-profile Cabinet Minister Siobhan Coady representing them?

  • Mouseland
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    I love your reasoning, Chuck: Manning turned his back on the province (which sector, you don't say) so I voted for Andrews, but he turned his back on the province, so I'm voting for Manning... Newfoundland logic at its finest. It reminds me of the story of the mice voting for the black cats. When they turned on the mice, they voted for the white cats until they too turned on the mice, at which point they voted for the black cats.... (Then didn't consider voting for a mouse).

  • Jordan
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Andrews is correct! Fabian shouldn't be using tax payers money to fly around the country announcing money while he is in an unelected Senator, just to try and win back his seat. Trying to compare his cushy appointed job to an elected town councillor is ridiculous, he is also not one to talk about the way someone votes on matters that effect our province. He's a trader.