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Quebec regulator rejects application; province to switch focus to maritime route

Quebec's energy regulator has denied one of this province's applications for access to its transmission grid.

The province was looking for capacity on the Quebec grid to transport power from the proposed Lower Churchill project to markets in the United States and the rest of Canada.

The decision of the Regie de l'energie came late Tuesday night and, according to Nalcor Energy, contravenes federal competition rules and those which allow Hydro-Quebec to sell power into the U.S.

Premier Danny Williams speaks with reporters Wednesday after the Regie de l'energie, Quebec's energy regulator, ruled against complaints filed by Nalcor Energy in relation to Nalcor's efforts to export power from the proposed Lower Churchill hydroelectric

Quebec's energy regulator has denied one of this province's applications for access to its transmission grid.

The province was looking for capacity on the Quebec grid to transport power from the proposed Lower Churchill project to markets in the United States and the rest of Canada.

The decision of the Regie de l'energie came late Tuesday night and, according to Nalcor Energy, contravenes federal competition rules and those which allow Hydro-Quebec to sell power into the U.S.

The decision incited the wrath of Premier Danny Williams.

"The inequity and the injustice of what's gone on here is horrendous," he told reporters outside the House of Assembly Wednesday.

"They came back and they basically whitewashed us, which ... again shows the arrogance and contempt that Quebec has for Newfoundland and Labrador," he continued.

But the premier suggested the bad news could be good in the long run.

He said the decision is so lopsided and biased it could come back to haunt both the regulator and Hydro-Quebec.

When Williams was questioned about what he thinks the decision will do to the Regie's reputation, he said, "I think they've serious damaged their credibility."

"The Regie dared to even suggest that Hydro-Quebec had some control or authority over assets that actually reside in Newfoundland and Labrador and are under the jurisdiction of (the province)," the premier said.

Williams also said he's informed the U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) of what's happened and will eventually launch a formal complaint with FERK once the province has exhausted all possible appeals under the Regie.

He said because FERC rules demand jurisdictions who sell power in the States to allow open and fair access to their grids, Hydro-Quebec could face penalties because of the Regie decision.

But Williams also said Wednesday the province will now shift it's focus to developing a Maritime route to transmit Lower Churchill power to the Island and on in to Nova Scotia and New Brunswick.

He said that has been his preferred option all along even though it is more expensive.

"I really felt Quebec were going to do whatever they could to try and block us along the way and they've done just that," said the premier.

Williams said he and the other Atlantic premiers will discuss that route further during a conference call next week, which the federal government may also be a part of.

When asked whether there is any political dialogue to be had with Quebec Premier Jean Charest on the matter, Williams said he's always open to talk.

"But we're not going to go into Quebec on our hands and knees under any circumstances," he said.

The province, through Nalcor, still has a second application before the Regie.

dbartlett@thetelegram.com

Organizations: Regie de l'energie, Hydro-Quebec, FERC U.S. Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

Geographic location: Quebec, United States, Newfoundland and Labrador Canada Iceland Nova Scotia New Brunswick

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  • Don
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    Don and Member of the 20% and dropping, you must feel proud today that Quebec won this battle. Antthing but having the province getting anything back that the liberals gave away. How can people cling to the liberals after all the bad decisions they made over the tears is behond human logic.i.e. The 65 year power deal and barring the A.G. from the govt. books, trying to sell off hydro. You people are nothing but jokes!!

  • Bones
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    Wouldn't it stick in Quebec's craw if Williams made it to the Prime Minister's chair? The feds would be involved then, lol, and something tells me Williams wouldn't be too worried about their squawking. Quebec has kicked NL in the guts time and time again and one thing I DID notice when Williams addressed the media yesterday: he didn't seem the least bit surprised and neither did the reporters. I think the single, biggest, difference that might ever be made with the relationship between NL and Quebec won't come from anywhere other than the PM's office. Money talks, and, quite frankly, Quebec's equalization money can be used to combat or prolong virtually anything, the pot is so full. NL won't be in a position for a long time to rival Quebec's resources and it's painfully obvious, with this recent ruling, that Quebec-based business owns Quebec-based courtrooms and judges. Federal involvement is the only thing that will ever mean a row of beans to Quebec, and for that reason alone, I think Williams should be involved in federal politics. We've been setup to lose billions and we're now being setup so the rape continues. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see some challenge regarding Labrador or the border. In fact, after reading the judge's comments, I expect it.

  • What else
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    W McLean from ON writes: ''The inequity and the injustice of what's gone on here is horrendous... shows the arrogance and contempt'' ----- Danny would know.

    Have to agree....'what ye sow so shall ye reap' and he got his in spades.......even IF it wasn't the right time....

  • Eli
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Hard for Danny to get financing when we don't have a market for the product.

  • Huh?
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    'has denied one of this province's applications'. Does that mean that the province has other applications before the regulator?

  • member of the 20%
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    While I don't support Quebec on anything from politics to hockey, the deal is done; it was done; and, it will continue as per the contract. Understand that Dan, please...if you weren't a lawyer, I'd give you some slack. And, there's reasons why neighbours, governments, provinces, countries, etc. all get along...compromise, deals, etc.
    You've burned too many bridges; you have no rapport or relationship with any province, any alliance, or the Feds. They all view you as the big mouth bully that you are. You go it alone for a very good reason Dan; please get out while we have something left.

  • Jordan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    Build the Maritime route and make sure that when the Upper Churchill contract expires we can put that electricity on the new grid and screw Quebec.

    Jack,
    I agree, the Quebec Government only allows Quebec companies to bid on projects in their province so we should do the same here or with our fellow Atlantic provinces.

  • Ev
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    What else can you expect from Quebec. They see themselves as a sovereign country, not a province of Canada. Expect nothing from them and you won't be disappointed.

  • John Smith
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    W McLean, if you are really from Ontario, which I doubt, why do you post on these forums? Why aren't you concerning yourself with all the problems going on in Ontario right now? Perhaps it is because you are just another Liberal troll? Anyway, anyone with half a clue knows why little tiny communities, on remote northern Labrador coast don't access power from high tension power grid lines. There is enormous costs involved in stepping down the power and distributing it etc. The costs to a little town of 200, or 400 people would be prohibitive, with substations transformers and on and on. As the province gets better financially equipped maybe some of the larger areas could benefit from the power. Anyway, I think you should turn your attention to the state of your own province...a have not province...we are doing fine here without you, thanks though.

  • Fintip
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    Yet once again, Cinderella has been reminded of her place in the Canadian household as the lowly downstairs maid. Whenever she protests her cruel and unjust treatment, she is severely reprimanded for her lack of gratitude and warned that upstarts will not be tolerated. She has persevered in the hope that one day her fairy godmother will wave a wand and a golden carriage will whisk her away to a wonderful new life. But there is no fairy godmother only a stepmother whose preoccupation is the welfare of Cinderellas big fat step sister. Cinderella is no longer the child she was when she was first indentured to the household by her own uncaring parents. She is beginning to lose her belief in fairy tales and realizes that, if she is to have a better life, she must rely on her own abilities, her own resources, and above all the courage of her own convictions. That means giving up the familiar surroundings and basic amenities that the household will provide as long as she accepts her place in it. Venturing too far afield scares Cinderella a little and yet, as each year passes, she grows more and more confident in herself and in her ability to make her own way in the world. Leaving she knows will be difficult. While there is little respect for her in the household, even a scullery maid has her uses and the stepmother will fight to keep her there. But Cinderella knows that if she doesnt leave now, when she is the strongest she has ever been, she might never have the opportunity again. Can she summon the courage and the will to see it through? Still angry and distraught at the most recent abuse by the upstairs crowd, Cinderella sits and ponders.

  • Daniel
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    I'am behind you Danny Williams, Lets go it alone, Who needs Quebec.

  • Hey Don
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Hey Don, why don't you tell us how you really feel. Williams must have pi$$ed in your cornflakes lately.

  • Keepin' It Real
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    I guess, as the saying goes, you give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

  • Tom
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Bones and John Smith. W. Mclean is originally from Labrador, hence his interest in this issue. People move out of the province to work. Happens all the time.

  • Bax
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    It pisses me off to see how Quebec can be so bloody pig-headed and still residents from that province can come to Labrador and slaughter our caribou and get away with it. Indians from Quebec hunt in the Churchill Falls area with little or no regard for hunting laws------just ask someone who has lived there.

    It's time NL smarten-up and not be so bloody soft .

  • Andrew
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Sound like a lot of jobs for construction and manufacturing for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador on our new transmission line to NS, NB & PEI. I love it.

  • Citizen of
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Why has Danny taken to dressing like a Godfather?

  • Robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    This is the best thing that could have happened. Now where are the feds on this issue? It is time for NL to tell Quebec to stuff it, do not allow any more Quebec companies to get contracts in NL and force Harper to take a stand on this issue.

  • Rich
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Danny Williams for Prime Minister !!!
    Put a cap on the number of seats any one province can have, and, Clean this mess up once and for all.
    Bones is right. Next its the moving of the border further East, until Quebec has its arms around the majority of Labrador.

  • J
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Pay the extra for the route because when the separation of Quebec is immenent NFLD won't have to worry about our assets and electricial transportation.

    It will be cheaper to build it now than in 10-20 years.

  • W
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Bones and John Smith, is Trevor Taylor also subject to your residency requirement?

  • P
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Mr. Williams, freedom of access problems ?

    Karma.

  • Jack
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    Now that the Quebec Government is choosing to act like jerks, the Williams Government should exercise the following options to provide power to the United States:

    1. Use an electrical corridor to Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and New Brunswick. Nova Scotia will benefit from getting access to renewable energy and meet their tough targets.

    2. Ban Quebec based companies, particularly Pomerleau, from bidding on civic and provincial government projects.

    3. Boycott Quebec campaign.

    4. Impose a ban from cheering on the Montreal Canadiens (though that might now work).

  • What else
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    Was there really any other expectation????

  • git er done
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    John Smith from NL, McLean is just another liberal cheerleader, you will find him to be antagonastic towards the government of this province because it is as easy to him as breathing. In fact he and his buddy over at Sir Robert Bond Papers are pretty much in lock step on most issues.

  • John Smith
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    I always have hoped that the Anglo saxon route could become a reality. I know that undersea transmission is being usd in other areas of the world successfully. The jobs for the island portion of the province would be a welcome boon to the Northern penn. Not to mention how this electrical supply would affect our ability to attract industry to the island. We could also use this transmission route after 2041 for the upper churchill, leaving PQ with nothing to put over their expensive lines. It would be an enormous project, but would allow us to hold our heads high, while giving Quebec the middle finger. I would choose this route even if it ment that we would have to use all the profits from the power for a number of years to pay for it. Just imagine what this could do for our children's, and grandchildren's lives.

  • Bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    What can you expect from the spoiled child of confederation. There isn't a federal party with aset of balls to line-up Quebec for the national interest. They should realize that kissing Quebec's behind for a few votes proves nothing. Time & time again Quebec proves it s the tail that wags the dog. The federal government can legislate rights of way for pipelines & natural gas, why not for electrical power? Remember when Quebec wanted to control Sable Island gas, but BRAVO to Nova Scotia when they said no & ran their own pipeline through New Brunswick to the eastern seaboard. I say good-bye to Quebec & good-luck on your journey to wherever you find yourself in the future as a third world country.

  • W
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Bones from NL writes: Wouldn't it stick in Quebec's craw if Williams made it to the Prime Minister's chair?

    = = =

    Bones, I would personally donate to Danny's leadership campaign within an hour of announcing his leadership bid, just to help ensure said bid would last long enough for him to do one media avail with the national political gallery.

    Totally worth the price of admission.

  • harry
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    How can anyone from nfld cheer for the habs once you read this?

  • don
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Dictator Danny rants about Quebec arrogance and unfairness. Talk about the kettle calling the pot a steamer! Dictator Danny got a taste of his own medicine. Danny knows how a kangaroo court or tribunal can dish out bad decisions that result in frustration and animosity from the aggrieved party. A Quebec based Regulator or Court with a bias and vendetta against Newfoundland ruled against Newfoundland. What a surprise! If the shoe was on the other foot, Dictator Danny would have seen to it that the Newfoundland regulators would have stuck it to Quebec. Try getting a fair hearing in Newfoundland. Good luck with that! The animosity and implacable divides between Quebec and Newfoundland are long standing and deeply entrenched. Danny should forget about trying to wheel hydro-power through Quebec. That isn't going to happen without Quebec's approval. Now that the Quebec- Hydro/NB Power deal is dead, Danny should seize that golden opportunity to start immediate negotiations to obtain financing and negotiate with partners amongst the other Atlantic Provinces to get the Anglo-Saxon sub sea route underway. Call the folks who bored the Chunnel between England and France and let's get this development moving. Oh, I forgot, Danny doesn't like to share the glory with partners and his Government doesn't have the $10 Billion that will be needed to make the Upper and Lower Churchill Anglo Saxon hydro line to the USA a reality. Maybe Danny can start a high interest savings account with a donation of let's say $100 million from his own pocket.

  • W
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    ''The inequity and the injustice of what's gone on here is horrendous... shows the arrogance and contempt''

    = = =

    Danny would know.

    His plan for the imaginary Lower Churchill project is to transmit the imaginary power everywhere Newfoundland, Quebec, Ontario, the Maritimes, the United States everywhere, that is, but Labrador, which will still rely in large part either on diesel generation or power imported from Quebec, even as imaginary transmission lines would run from central Labrador, bypassing Labrador communities on the way to industrial plants in Newfoundland or markets in the rest of North America.

    Inequity? Injustice? Arrogance and contempt?

    Look in the mirror, Danny.

    Look in the mirror.

  • Bones
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    McLean: Why would a Liberal sock puppet in Ontario care about these imaginary things? Is it because the Premier of Ontario wants 'in' on this imaginary power and you're trying to warn him? lol Upper Churchill was imaginary power at one point too, remember? So was Star Lake.

  • Johnny
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Good on you Williams. You screwed central nl with your bullying tactics, stole our hydro resources and in your greed for more power you screwed up the expropriation. Not only are you a lousey premier, but your a lousey lawyer too.

  • NL_Expatriate
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Deja-Vue http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~feehan/CF.pdf
    So much for NAFTA Reciprocity agreements or the free trade amongst provinces as enshrined in the Constitution.

  • Don
    July 01, 2010 - 20:25

    Don and Member of the 20% and dropping, you must feel proud today that Quebec won this battle. Antthing but having the province getting anything back that the liberals gave away. How can people cling to the liberals after all the bad decisions they made over the tears is behond human logic.i.e. The 65 year power deal and barring the A.G. from the govt. books, trying to sell off hydro. You people are nothing but jokes!!

  • Bones
    July 01, 2010 - 20:25

    Wouldn't it stick in Quebec's craw if Williams made it to the Prime Minister's chair? The feds would be involved then, lol, and something tells me Williams wouldn't be too worried about their squawking. Quebec has kicked NL in the guts time and time again and one thing I DID notice when Williams addressed the media yesterday: he didn't seem the least bit surprised and neither did the reporters. I think the single, biggest, difference that might ever be made with the relationship between NL and Quebec won't come from anywhere other than the PM's office. Money talks, and, quite frankly, Quebec's equalization money can be used to combat or prolong virtually anything, the pot is so full. NL won't be in a position for a long time to rival Quebec's resources and it's painfully obvious, with this recent ruling, that Quebec-based business owns Quebec-based courtrooms and judges. Federal involvement is the only thing that will ever mean a row of beans to Quebec, and for that reason alone, I think Williams should be involved in federal politics. We've been setup to lose billions and we're now being setup so the rape continues. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see some challenge regarding Labrador or the border. In fact, after reading the judge's comments, I expect it.

  • What else
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    W McLean from ON writes: ''The inequity and the injustice of what's gone on here is horrendous... shows the arrogance and contempt'' ----- Danny would know.

    Have to agree....'what ye sow so shall ye reap' and he got his in spades.......even IF it wasn't the right time....

  • Eli
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    Hard for Danny to get financing when we don't have a market for the product.

  • Huh?
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    'has denied one of this province's applications'. Does that mean that the province has other applications before the regulator?

  • member of the 20%
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    While I don't support Quebec on anything from politics to hockey, the deal is done; it was done; and, it will continue as per the contract. Understand that Dan, please...if you weren't a lawyer, I'd give you some slack. And, there's reasons why neighbours, governments, provinces, countries, etc. all get along...compromise, deals, etc.
    You've burned too many bridges; you have no rapport or relationship with any province, any alliance, or the Feds. They all view you as the big mouth bully that you are. You go it alone for a very good reason Dan; please get out while we have something left.

  • Jordan
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    Build the Maritime route and make sure that when the Upper Churchill contract expires we can put that electricity on the new grid and screw Quebec.

    Jack,
    I agree, the Quebec Government only allows Quebec companies to bid on projects in their province so we should do the same here or with our fellow Atlantic provinces.

  • Ev
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    What else can you expect from Quebec. They see themselves as a sovereign country, not a province of Canada. Expect nothing from them and you won't be disappointed.

  • John Smith
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    W McLean, if you are really from Ontario, which I doubt, why do you post on these forums? Why aren't you concerning yourself with all the problems going on in Ontario right now? Perhaps it is because you are just another Liberal troll? Anyway, anyone with half a clue knows why little tiny communities, on remote northern Labrador coast don't access power from high tension power grid lines. There is enormous costs involved in stepping down the power and distributing it etc. The costs to a little town of 200, or 400 people would be prohibitive, with substations transformers and on and on. As the province gets better financially equipped maybe some of the larger areas could benefit from the power. Anyway, I think you should turn your attention to the state of your own province...a have not province...we are doing fine here without you, thanks though.

  • Fintip
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    Yet once again, Cinderella has been reminded of her place in the Canadian household as the lowly downstairs maid. Whenever she protests her cruel and unjust treatment, she is severely reprimanded for her lack of gratitude and warned that upstarts will not be tolerated. She has persevered in the hope that one day her fairy godmother will wave a wand and a golden carriage will whisk her away to a wonderful new life. But there is no fairy godmother only a stepmother whose preoccupation is the welfare of Cinderellas big fat step sister. Cinderella is no longer the child she was when she was first indentured to the household by her own uncaring parents. She is beginning to lose her belief in fairy tales and realizes that, if she is to have a better life, she must rely on her own abilities, her own resources, and above all the courage of her own convictions. That means giving up the familiar surroundings and basic amenities that the household will provide as long as she accepts her place in it. Venturing too far afield scares Cinderella a little and yet, as each year passes, she grows more and more confident in herself and in her ability to make her own way in the world. Leaving she knows will be difficult. While there is little respect for her in the household, even a scullery maid has her uses and the stepmother will fight to keep her there. But Cinderella knows that if she doesnt leave now, when she is the strongest she has ever been, she might never have the opportunity again. Can she summon the courage and the will to see it through? Still angry and distraught at the most recent abuse by the upstairs crowd, Cinderella sits and ponders.

  • Daniel
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    I'am behind you Danny Williams, Lets go it alone, Who needs Quebec.

  • Hey Don
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    Hey Don, why don't you tell us how you really feel. Williams must have pi$$ed in your cornflakes lately.

  • Keepin' It Real
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    I guess, as the saying goes, you give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

  • Tom
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    Bones and John Smith. W. Mclean is originally from Labrador, hence his interest in this issue. People move out of the province to work. Happens all the time.

  • Bax
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    It pisses me off to see how Quebec can be so bloody pig-headed and still residents from that province can come to Labrador and slaughter our caribou and get away with it. Indians from Quebec hunt in the Churchill Falls area with little or no regard for hunting laws------just ask someone who has lived there.

    It's time NL smarten-up and not be so bloody soft .

  • Andrew
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    Sound like a lot of jobs for construction and manufacturing for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador on our new transmission line to NS, NB & PEI. I love it.

  • Citizen of
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    Why has Danny taken to dressing like a Godfather?

  • Robert
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    This is the best thing that could have happened. Now where are the feds on this issue? It is time for NL to tell Quebec to stuff it, do not allow any more Quebec companies to get contracts in NL and force Harper to take a stand on this issue.

  • Rich
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    Danny Williams for Prime Minister !!!
    Put a cap on the number of seats any one province can have, and, Clean this mess up once and for all.
    Bones is right. Next its the moving of the border further East, until Quebec has its arms around the majority of Labrador.

  • J
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Pay the extra for the route because when the separation of Quebec is immenent NFLD won't have to worry about our assets and electricial transportation.

    It will be cheaper to build it now than in 10-20 years.

  • W
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Bones and John Smith, is Trevor Taylor also subject to your residency requirement?

  • P
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Mr. Williams, freedom of access problems ?

    Karma.

  • Jack
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    Now that the Quebec Government is choosing to act like jerks, the Williams Government should exercise the following options to provide power to the United States:

    1. Use an electrical corridor to Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and New Brunswick. Nova Scotia will benefit from getting access to renewable energy and meet their tough targets.

    2. Ban Quebec based companies, particularly Pomerleau, from bidding on civic and provincial government projects.

    3. Boycott Quebec campaign.

    4. Impose a ban from cheering on the Montreal Canadiens (though that might now work).

  • What else
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    Was there really any other expectation????

  • git er done
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    John Smith from NL, McLean is just another liberal cheerleader, you will find him to be antagonastic towards the government of this province because it is as easy to him as breathing. In fact he and his buddy over at Sir Robert Bond Papers are pretty much in lock step on most issues.

  • John Smith
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    I always have hoped that the Anglo saxon route could become a reality. I know that undersea transmission is being usd in other areas of the world successfully. The jobs for the island portion of the province would be a welcome boon to the Northern penn. Not to mention how this electrical supply would affect our ability to attract industry to the island. We could also use this transmission route after 2041 for the upper churchill, leaving PQ with nothing to put over their expensive lines. It would be an enormous project, but would allow us to hold our heads high, while giving Quebec the middle finger. I would choose this route even if it ment that we would have to use all the profits from the power for a number of years to pay for it. Just imagine what this could do for our children's, and grandchildren's lives.

  • Bob
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    What can you expect from the spoiled child of confederation. There isn't a federal party with aset of balls to line-up Quebec for the national interest. They should realize that kissing Quebec's behind for a few votes proves nothing. Time & time again Quebec proves it s the tail that wags the dog. The federal government can legislate rights of way for pipelines & natural gas, why not for electrical power? Remember when Quebec wanted to control Sable Island gas, but BRAVO to Nova Scotia when they said no & ran their own pipeline through New Brunswick to the eastern seaboard. I say good-bye to Quebec & good-luck on your journey to wherever you find yourself in the future as a third world country.

  • W
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    Bones from NL writes: Wouldn't it stick in Quebec's craw if Williams made it to the Prime Minister's chair?

    = = =

    Bones, I would personally donate to Danny's leadership campaign within an hour of announcing his leadership bid, just to help ensure said bid would last long enough for him to do one media avail with the national political gallery.

    Totally worth the price of admission.

  • harry
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    How can anyone from nfld cheer for the habs once you read this?

  • don
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    Dictator Danny rants about Quebec arrogance and unfairness. Talk about the kettle calling the pot a steamer! Dictator Danny got a taste of his own medicine. Danny knows how a kangaroo court or tribunal can dish out bad decisions that result in frustration and animosity from the aggrieved party. A Quebec based Regulator or Court with a bias and vendetta against Newfoundland ruled against Newfoundland. What a surprise! If the shoe was on the other foot, Dictator Danny would have seen to it that the Newfoundland regulators would have stuck it to Quebec. Try getting a fair hearing in Newfoundland. Good luck with that! The animosity and implacable divides between Quebec and Newfoundland are long standing and deeply entrenched. Danny should forget about trying to wheel hydro-power through Quebec. That isn't going to happen without Quebec's approval. Now that the Quebec- Hydro/NB Power deal is dead, Danny should seize that golden opportunity to start immediate negotiations to obtain financing and negotiate with partners amongst the other Atlantic Provinces to get the Anglo-Saxon sub sea route underway. Call the folks who bored the Chunnel between England and France and let's get this development moving. Oh, I forgot, Danny doesn't like to share the glory with partners and his Government doesn't have the $10 Billion that will be needed to make the Upper and Lower Churchill Anglo Saxon hydro line to the USA a reality. Maybe Danny can start a high interest savings account with a donation of let's say $100 million from his own pocket.

  • W
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    ''The inequity and the injustice of what's gone on here is horrendous... shows the arrogance and contempt''

    = = =

    Danny would know.

    His plan for the imaginary Lower Churchill project is to transmit the imaginary power everywhere Newfoundland, Quebec, Ontario, the Maritimes, the United States everywhere, that is, but Labrador, which will still rely in large part either on diesel generation or power imported from Quebec, even as imaginary transmission lines would run from central Labrador, bypassing Labrador communities on the way to industrial plants in Newfoundland or markets in the rest of North America.

    Inequity? Injustice? Arrogance and contempt?

    Look in the mirror, Danny.

    Look in the mirror.

  • Bones
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    McLean: Why would a Liberal sock puppet in Ontario care about these imaginary things? Is it because the Premier of Ontario wants 'in' on this imaginary power and you're trying to warn him? lol Upper Churchill was imaginary power at one point too, remember? So was Star Lake.

  • Johnny
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Good on you Williams. You screwed central nl with your bullying tactics, stole our hydro resources and in your greed for more power you screwed up the expropriation. Not only are you a lousey premier, but your a lousey lawyer too.

  • NL_Expatriate
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Deja-Vue http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~feehan/CF.pdf
    So much for NAFTA Reciprocity agreements or the free trade amongst provinces as enshrined in the Constitution.