- A. Morris
- July 10, 2013 - 18:09
I was born in England during WWII. My mother was British and my father born and raised in the country of Newfoundland. Although I have a British Birth Certificate, I was considered by the British Government to be a Newfoundlander as was my mother the moment she married my father. We moved to Newfoundland in 1947. I have a very keen interest in history especially so after my father at one point, spoke of how NL entered confederation. Even though he voted for Confederation, he made a comment that the vote had been rigged. He said, "the vote was not 52% for Confederation but 52% for the return of Responsible Government and 48% for Confederation. After our union with Canada took place, he was not ever happy with his vote. He did not like the way Canadians looked down their noses at Newfoundlanders. This attitude was the attitude the Federal Government of the day took calling Newfoundlanders uneducated and stupid and lazy. Joey Smallwood who initially was against confederation continued to allow this third class opinion to continue. Joey Smallwood became the third person to designate Newfoundlanders as third class citizens and was the second dictator of Newfoundland behind Britian. My father to his dying day, always regreted his vote. He more than once said Newfoundland had been flushed down the drain with no respect either from Joey Smallwood nor the Government of Canada. Most irritating are those many Canadians who continue to say, "Newfoundland always has its hand out." Having lived on the mainland of Canada for 51 years and not ever having been detected as someone who had lived in Newfoundland, it is always surprising to people if I happen to mention, I lived in Newfoundland. "Where is your Newfie...Newfie being derogatory.... accent?" Mainland Canadians don't have any idea how many Newfoundlanders live in NL and just how many live in the rest of the country all working individuals contributing to the public coffers. It is most disheartning to hear several family members speak of Newfoundlanders in a disparaging offensive manner commenting Newfoundlanders "are always looking for something for nothing". I suggest every Canadian read a copy of "Don't Tell The Newfoundlanders". At least Canadians might learn how Newfoundland saved the Prairie Provinces from no wheat sales to Russia purchasing their wheat saving the Farmers in the early 1950's by the Canadian Government giving Russia unlimited fishing rights on the Grand Banks in exchange. Maybe then, Albertians and the rest of the country wouldn't be so qick to say, "Newfies go home"!
- May 24, 2013 - 16:20
Some of the documents cited in this book did indeed make my blood boil. It changed the way I view Canada. Both sides received benefits from confederation, but one party also lost something: its sovereignty. I feel strongly that what was done can be undone. If Newfoundland finds itself in a position to restore its sovereignty, we should do it.
- December 17, 2012 - 12:59
Bob, the heading of your article, The World " According " to Malone is appropriate--Incidentally, the Saturday edition of the Telegram also published a review of Malone's book by Ed Roberts. Roberts argues that Malone's assertions regarding a conspiracy are groundless and his contention that the second referendum count was fraudulent is simply incorrect. His cogent arguments, backed up by solid support, essentially debunk the main planks in Malone's work. The conspiracy theorists might also want to consult Harold Horwood's book " Joey "......On the second referendum ballot being fraudulent he wonders how this could happen " under the noses of scrutineers from the various responsible government parties, who sat in all the polling booths." And why does the fiction still persist that the second referendum result was so small as to be almost invalid? Confederation won over Responsible Government by 6989 votes or 4.67 percent. It was close but it was a decisive victory. Mackenzie King, who accepted Newfoundland into the Canadian Confederation, was in power for 22 years. Horwood tells us that in all of the elections he contested, " only once had he received a larger share of the popular vote than confederation had received in Newfoundland."
- Winston Adams
- December 16, 2012 - 10:58
Bob, why would you be shocked? The end justifies the means- what else would you expect from a country that was still engaged in promoting it's Empire? Wasn't this routine procedure? And if Joey was involved in conspiracy, where were you journalists in the 70s, 80s and 90s? This information first hand from the man's father who is alledged to have used names from headstones would have been much more valuable than hearsay evidence now.Many old people were and are willing to talk, if journalists were and are doing their job. And your uncle Joe Judge, the war vet, I beleive your prior columns stated he had several wounds from Beaumont Hamel? How do you feel about the cause he fought for? Was it not the cause of Empire foremost, wrapped up in language of democracy, freedom, truth etc, but as immoral in reality as the methods likely used to bring about confederation. And what about the corrupt means long practised by our government members that helped lead to our loss of responsible government? Much, but not all is documented in Peter Cashin's book. I had the good luck to get the story of an old lady who ran rum from Tor's Cove to St. John's in the 1920s. Her main customers: the prime minister, Sir Richard Squires and Sir Albert Hickman, the Chief Justice. And what business did Cashin do without government connections-- conflict of interest appears foreign to his morals. I can understamd those who beleived we were not capable of governing ourselves as had been practised. And given recent action; Bill 29, the secrecy act, and actions to bypass the PUB, and moves to railroad through the Muskrat falls project, our moral compass is still not working. The PUB of Nova Scotia and the restrictive terms of the federal loan guarantee are doing more to further transparency than our own laws. Perhaps it says something about us as a people?
- W McLean
- December 15, 2012 - 15:12
Actually, it's been some academics with too much time on their hands who've largely promulgated the myths. And had Malone footnoted his book, others could follow up and expand upon his research. For someone who spent so much time in archives researching, there's an astonishingly small amount of archival citation in the endmatter.
- Cyril Rogers
- December 15, 2012 - 12:31
Mr. Wakeham, while there is some merit to Mr. Malone's arguments there is ample reason for us to be grateful that we joined with Canada. I was born under the Canadian flag and, yes, I share the frustration of many in this province at our impotence in the Canadian Parliament but, on balance, one could easily argue that Confederation was a net benefit. I have never been less enamored of Confederation than in recent years but that frustration is tempered by the the realization that we have our own colonialists in this province. Simply look at the cavalier way Labrador resources have been exploited with minimal benefit to Labrador and the way outport Newfoundland is still at the mercy of the St. John's elite. Sure, money does get thrown around to some degree but it is meant to pacify as opposed to sustain and nourish them as viable entities. I am a proud Newfoundlander but I am personally ashamed of our own colonial past and present that exploits its own people for the benefit of the few. We need to look forward not back so better that people focus their anger on our own taskmasters instead of trying to deflect it to Quebec or Canada or any other imagined exploiter. There is plenty of blame with our own government....we don't need to look elsewhere.
- Doug Smith
- December 15, 2012 - 10:31
Mr. Wakeham, there is only one question anyone needs to ask about NL joining Canada and that is, were and are the people of NL better off financially by joining Canada. The answer, of course is yes. Did you not make your living from the CBC, and lets not forget the CPP and OAP coming your way all paid for by Canada so how can you agree with Mr. Malone? Doug Smith, GFW
- William Power
- December 15, 2012 - 09:06
Nothing new here. It was always know that the Confederation vote was was acheived through fraudulent means, Smallwood and his confederates using underhanded tactics that would make most third world dictators envious. Tactics such as people rising from the dead and showing up on voters lists; more people in a community voting in the election then actually lived there; that illerate people that voted had a person at the polling booth vote for them, that person coincidently being a confederate supporter; even reports that the last vote count was actually against joining Canada, but that the numbers were switched to change the result once and for all. Even the actual date for the signing of the confederation is in dispute. Everyone I ever spoke to from that period all said that the date was 01 April, not 31 March as Smallwood and his confederates claim. I guess it really was a terrible April Fools joke; one that just never ends. In any event, all old news. One of the things that amused me when the Quebec Sepratists almost won their last seoeration vote was that Ottawa quickly came out and said that there would need to be a much larger majority then 51% before Canada would even consider letting Quebec seperate; yet it was that same percentage that resulted in Newfoundland giving up it's independence and becoming part of Canada. I guess what's good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander. Maybe the Newfoundland government should open an investigation into the reports of voter fraud, etc., involved in the Canada vote, and if found to be true, declare that election null and void and hold a new one. In any event, it would clear up this long standing controversy once and for all.
- Unfortunate Son
- December 15, 2012 - 08:38
We should all give up one pogey cheque to fight this in court.