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  • Alan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    The Conservative is just like the B.C. Liberals,here i B.C. we have the p.s.t a carbon tax which goes up every two to three months and now the H.S.T which is going to jack everything up 7% more this is hard times still, to me it looks like the Conservatives do not want us here to get ride of all the working poor and the disabled, how about the governments pay come down to minimum wage and they can see what it is like to live on that.You guys care more about the 2010 game then the good people of Canada that pay your high wages.

  • Gerald
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    There is a point that all of you lefties cannot accept, and that is the Harper government IS the3 democratically elected Government in Canada. The Libs weren't elected; the dippers weren't elected. Why were they not elected? Because the electorate knows what it's up to. They have what they voted for and don't ever forget it.
    And furthermore, after the next election we will have another Conservative Government. And, of course, in your opinion, the people will be wrong again.
    When will you ever learn? The people are always right!

  • Eli
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Too bad this Lana gal is Canadian. She'd make a pretty good reporter in a English-speaking democracy like England.

  • Lewis
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Pierre Pharand,
    Excellent post-well thought out, informed and accurate.
    What a contrast with today's government taking such quick and decisive action in Haiti compared to Martin, Chretien et al and their pathetic actions in previous world disasters.


    Lewis

  • Ras
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    You people must have too much time on your hands. Two weeks of no parliament and you see the end of democracy? What a bunch of morons.

  • Bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Let's see .. Chretien porogued 4 TIMES! Where was the outrage then?? The media didn't blink! This is nothing more than a media-driven, politically motivated witch hunt. Chretien porogued once for 80+ days without causing a fuss. Harper's porogue amounts to 22 days. BIG DEAL - GET REAL.

    The opposition deserves to be shut out anyway - over their disgraceful, cowardly attacks on Canadian soldiers, acting as the mouthpiece of Taliban propoganda and using the detainee non-issue as disgusting low-ball slander targetted at the PMO.. and for what? To score political potty points? These weazels are beneath contempt - and that goes for the CBC - the main driver in all this rubbish!

  • Greig
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Firstly, we are talking about 17 working days here, not the 4 months that the lefys and MSM want us to believe. If this is what is required to slap down, the partisan self serving Liberal Senators, to allow passage of legislation that was supported by the majority of the MP's including the Liberals then it is worthwhile. The whole thing could have been avoided had Iffy shown some backbone and reined in his lefty Senator buddies. The Liberal party of Toronto is becoming more irrelevant it that is possible. Keep up the good work Prime Minister Harper!

  • J Bruce
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Spoken like a true Liberal...with no mention of Chretien's 82 day closing down parliament....or the majority of the 105 times ..mainly by the Libaral Party.
    How about Trudea's passing of many laws....with Orders in Counil- laws made or changed without debate!

    As Goebel's said.... If you repeat a lie often enough....it becomes accpeted as truth ( or words to that affect)

    JBW

  • Ruth
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    The truth is that what Harper has done is UNPRECEDENTED in modern times, not just in Canada but in every similar parliamentary system.

    The Conservative spin machine is telling you that Chretien prorogued parliament in 2003 to avoid getting the Adscan report. But the November to January, 2003 prorogue was done the day before Paul Martin took over as leader of the party, replacing Chretien. The purpose of prorogation is to finish one session of parliament so that the agenda can be reset. A new prime minister taking over is exactly the sort of situation for which prorogation exists. Read this article from the day of that prorogue:

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2003/11/12/liberals031112.html

    Read this article on the history of prorogation:

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Only+Canada+Harper+prorogation+Canadian+thing/2448571/story.html

    It says, in part: no other English-speaking nation with a system of government like ours not Britain, Australia or New Zealand has ever had its parliament prorogued in modern times, so that its ruling party could avoid an investigation, or a vote of confidence, by other elected legislators.

  • Wayne
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    Proroguing is a great idea. I applaud the Conservative party for preventing the socialist NDP and corrupt Liberals from using parliament as nothing but a way to level baseless accusations against the sitting government. If these parties do not end their attacks against the government, then by all means I believe the Conservatives should just never bother un-proroguing parliament and should rule indefinitely through the strong confidence that the voters of Canada gave them during the last election.

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    To paraphrase the late, great Pierre Trudeau: Parliament is just a talking shop, a rubber-stamp for the real government -- i.e., the Cabinet.

    Our Fuhrer, Stephen Harper, is living proof of the former prime minister's view. Sieg Heil !!

  • Laurie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Durward Saar from Coquitlam, BC writes....The Economist is not a respected magazine, it's a joke....

    Yeah, right! The Economist is one of the most respected magazines in the Western world! And, it's a conservative, right-wing magazine, I might add! This makes its criticism of Harper's actions even more outstanding. Your comments are about as rediculous as Harper's reasons for proroguing Parliament!

  • Ron
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Parliament has been prorogued 105 times, and each time it has been just as constitutional and legal as the last; this is a fact. To say otherwise is an outright lie just as saying that we are prorogued now is also an outright lie. (it starts Jan 25)

    Those like yourself who are against this constitutional power are the ones that are the real danger to our system because you want to change what has worked for Canada for over 140 years. Even Ignatieff admitted that he is not interested in taking this power away and he is right, but that wont stop the Liberals from the fake outrage crying out against something that they agree with, hoping that you don't notice.

    I like our constitution just fine thank you very much. Beware of those that want to change it and lie to you while trying to do so.

  • Townie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    I don't think that the current media has anything to do with democracy. They all seem to be minions of the Conservatives in particular Global and CTV and its subs. No one stands for anything anymore.

  • Jack
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Seems Canada is going towards a dictatorship.

  • Durward
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    I think your pretty stupid actually, and you prove it with this nonsense.
    The Economist is not a respected magazine, it's a joke to all but the math challenged, Just like East Anglia CRU is only respected by those who are science and truth challenged.
    Further-more the MSM has not been credible for decades and failing to cover Climate-gate showed just how disinterested they are in the truth, biggest story ever and they ignore it so as not to embarrass the Liberals.
    Sorry but yea IMO you are stupid and proroguing of Parliament starts Jan 25, it's still Parliaments holidays until then.
    PS your version of history is way off, the Liberals were caught first,then forced to hold a public inquiry that was so limited the Liberal elite walked free because it was made so they could not look at the real story, the politicians who still have not fessed up to what ridings got the money.

  • Pierre
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Manchild, your name is fitting, as well... is a man, but acts like a child. Your words are spoken like a true sore loser. You can't get over the fact that your leftist standpoint may be going the way of the dodo and that, finally, the left's ways are being exposed for what they are: immature and unsportmenlike (forgive the expression for I didn't have a better one).

    It seems that there is a conservative shift in the country, not conservative enough in my opinion, but conservative nonetheless. The Liberal Party seems to be imploding from the inside because the current roster seems to be those cut from a same, albeit tattered, cloth. All the former liberal all-stars seem to want nothing to do with the party nowadays. Examples of this are John Manley and Frank McKenna, to name a few.

    Thank God we have PM Harper who would rather deal with the issues our country has to deal with, rather than petty politics. Liberals and NDPers are experts in the aforementioned petty parts of Parliament and, therefore, are insignificant wastes of air in the House.

    Plus, Townie, saying that CTV and Global are biased is a far stretch. What differentiates them from the CBC is that they have a far less significant Liberal and NDP bias. In other words, real journalism (or the closest thing to it in Canada).

  • Bryson
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    I think everyone should go to the rally at Colonial Building on Saturday. Stephen Harper is pathetic, we need to stand up for our rights as Canadians.

  • Frank M
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    All of the parties and the politicians are alike.

    Jack harris and Jack Layton could have brought down the Conservatives in September but instead they chose to support the government.

    Ms. Payne, in all honesty, they are all alike.

    The Liberals prorogued parlaiment to avoid the Auditor General's report in Adscam and at the same time avoided questions from the Somalia inquiry.

    All politicians from all parties are alike.

    63 members of the Bloc Quebecois will be eligible for their federal MP pensions in mid June, so don't expect them to rock the boat anytime soon.

    They are all alike, so an attack on the harper Conservatives alone is devoid of any intellectual honesty.

  • D'Arcy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    We think you are pretty stupid down dere. After all you elect a lot of crooks provincially, & vote Lib/Dipper federally,
    Dumb dee dumb dumb

  • John West
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    I remember you most adored PM stating that once MPs got fifty feet away from Parliament, they were just a bunch of nobodies.

    I couldn't agree more, so what's the big deal if they are not sitting in the house acting like monkeys banging tables and shouting.

    Harper is the best PM we have had since I cannot remember when. He simply saw no reason to have a bunch of Leftist loons sympathizing ad nauseum over the treatment of our enemies at the hands of their own.

    No one really cares, but most do care about the safety of our troops. It's a war $hit happens, give it a rest.

    The country runs even more smoothly when parliament is not in session. Enjoy the Olympics and if you haven't have had your daily dose of empathy, check out the goings on in Haiti for awhile and stop complaining about nothing.

  • Taxpayer ll
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    35 or 40 million people and the best the Liberals could come up with is Iggy. if the liberal party had a leader the people could get behind, Harper would be toast.

  • Nerill
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Couldn't agree more. You are not alone. Everyone who disagrees with this attack on democracy should consider doing something about it. Join the Canadians Against Proroguing Parliament Rally
    Saturday, January 23, 2010
    Time:
    1:00pm - 2:00pm
    Location:
    Colonial Building
    Street:
    Military Road
    For details see - http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=254408292826&ref=mf

  • Wayne
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Fed up? Sign Fair Vote Canada's a href= http://www.fairvote.ca/en/civicrm/profile/create?gid=7&reset=1 / Declaration of Voters' Rights /a now!

  • Tuco
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    I was never interested in politics until Stevem Harper showed up.

    This man has balls, he makes things happen, sometimes right, sometimes maybe not so, but I would rather have 1 Harper sitting at any international table representing my interests then a dozen and half over-cooked, conceded, and self-interested mamby-pamby Ignatieffs and his bleeding-heart, brown-paper bag stuffing ilk.

  • david
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Let's follow Andrew Coyne's advice in his article in Macleans, Parliament: Who Needs It and stop electing individuals and start voting for a party so Parliament can be called just once a year. This would be known as a democratically elected dictatorship - one of a kind in the world - winner takes all and the losing political parties can go home and save a lot of money. Thanks for your brilliance, Andrew.

  • Margaret
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    The Economist is a very well-respected magazine; I'd subscribe, but it costs around $168 a year. It's packed with information, and has excellent writers. Trust someone from here to lump it in with gossip magazines.

    Try reading one sometime, Ronald J. If you can, that is. It's not light reading.

    Harper was very accurately portrayed in The Economist. They have it bang-on - absolutely right. Naked self-interest for sure -- and I think his power has gone straight to his head. He's now addicted to it - because he doesn't have a career as a lawyer, author, or professor - or even accountant to go to when he leaves (with a crowbar prying his hands off the doorknob) 24 Sussex. No more bodyguards, no more special car, no more paid trips all over the world, and no more hanging out with the glitterati of Europe.

    So - as far as I can see, he has found out how much power the PM of Canada can have, and he is addicted to it. He was TRUSTED with the combination to the safe, and he's used it for himself, and won't let anyone else see what's in there now.

  • dicky doo
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Tell harper and that lepracuan, hugging that pot of gold that they don't know what to do with, to get out of here and that we want canada back. I am glad Iggy was fortunate to see a smuggled over canadian newspaper and saw the shambled state the country was in, under going harpers reign. He came back because he knew canada needed, not only him and what he had to offer to canadians but something better and at least choice. He faced everything expect booby traps to get to where he stands today. Steve and the Gang had to break up a national party to do that, and further more he was hungrey for all this power and look now what he's done and his actions so far since he has gotten the JOB. I expect we'll have to go strongs lengths to avoid an election this year either harper and his sexy comrades are going on strike or they'll need to preform the first exorcisim in the house of commons. As for fabian, well, when he's on the tv, I like to mute it and every time he opens and closes his mouth, to answer a question, all I can picture is the senator puckered up and blowing kisses to stevie's back side. The same way a cod fish mouth comes together. What ever happened to a simple ear tug? Thats what ya get I guess, the fish always goes for the biggest worm. He'll soon have a few more elbows to rub in the senate playroom. Rumor has it that canadian tv personalities considered were both biff and bart, jesse from the beachcombers and the guy who played joe gumba from North of 60. I know now what the P stands for in PM. LOL..... prorogued?

  • Laurie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    We should consider the fact that our parliament has been prorogued 105 times before....

    Well, this is misleading. In all but 3 of those instances, Parliament was prorogued for legitimate reasons: 1) In advance of an election. 2) The legislative agenda was completed. 3) Prior to a visit of the Queen or King, so that her/his Majesty could re-open Parliament.

    On only 3 occasions has it ever been prorogued for partisen self-interests. Now, the Conservative have done it twice in a year! The Economist is correct - on both occasions, it was done out of naked self-interest . This government is a disgrace and makes makes a mockery of democracy and of those who have a right to hold it accountable.

  • Adscam
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    So this is where is the village idiots gather. Steve has got them right where they should be, in opposition or denial. All that's happening is a lot of hot air. Put your dukes up and get those leftist MP's to cause an election. Me thinks Steve will do just fine and then he might sing another song, this time by Queen, We are the Champions.

  • Ray
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    When the House of Commons is continually hampered by unimpotant issues and whinning brought on by the opposition and little important business is being processed it only makes sense to close parliament. Opposition blackmailing at every turn puts the more important issues on the back burner. So if the opposition wants to go to work, I suggest they change their method of doing business.

  • Stop the Racket
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    You dont really want to know how stupid we think you are Lana. Why dont you concentrate your efforts on our little dictator right here at home. Tell us how you think Danny measures up Lana. I have always said that in NL the NDP is a great party but as long as they have members like you in it that party will never amount to anything. If I could make a choice between Harper and Williams Harper wins hands down. The last session of the House of Assembly Williams wasnt even there most of the time he thought it was more important to be in Alberta bashing Prime Minister Harper just the way you like to do. If theres ant good in all this its that Jack Looser Layton will never be in a position of power and he will fade off into the sunset complaining about everything just like you do.

  • Manchild
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    I hope this grassroots movement on facebook can continue as a grassroots movement to defeat conservatives in the next election. At the moment the only way to defeat the conservatives is to vote for the strongest non conservative candidate, regardless of party, in conservative held ridings where the combined opposition vote was higher than the conservative vote last time. The opposition party's themselves won't agree to this so it's up to you and me. We grassrooters are our county's only hope. We have the power but do we have the will? Please look at Elections Canada's web site to determine which ridings are vulnerable for the conservatives and volunteer your time there next election. If you live in a hopelessly conservative riding where they took well over 50% of the vote last time then don't spend much time there. Please volunteer in vulnerable conservative ridings. But most importantly - talk it up. Get others to do the same. We have the power in what's left of our democracy to over ride the politicians partisan posturing. If we don't do this we are very likey to get Harper and the conservatives back in power again to continue their destruction of our democratic rights and our reputation as one of the best country's on earth. If we act together and vote strategically and work at convincing others to do the same we will prevail. The result of this movement will likely be a Liberal minority government with a stronger NDP element. We can all live with this at least until the conservatives get rid of Harper and select someone a bit more reasonable and balanced as their leader. We can do this.

  • sandy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    an election gets this pm a majority........

    so, harper is bullying the opposition, who are sporting ferocious daggers in their words, into a gunfight.

    the once-guard who should be crying out from their pulpits are, well, singing in their chains; the business man can't say anything because if he does, there is a good chance he does not get any of that bail out money which is coming to him, after all this time, shortly. .. and most have voted harper in there anyways.

    the senators even our own here from this north atlantic isle seem to be basking in their own glory and enjoying such a permanent position in the cold current of affairs.

    there is thus only the doings of facebook and other screams from the bloqsphere and bien sur writings such as yours which will undo the machiavellian at work ( augh, non-work ) on the Hill.

    protest is fertile.

    sf

  • Louis
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Well John West is misinformed for believing in Harper. Once a conserative always a conservative, same goes for most people - their respective parties can do now wrong. The real issue here is, do we really need a GG? She is in the end responsible for proroguing parliament - TWICE - as far as I am concern this position is redundant and a waste of tax payers money(along with the Senate).

  • Benito
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    I agree with Stephen Harper that democracy is detrimental to the efficient functioning of an economy. Let the captains of industry get on with running the country without the distractions of the mob.

  • TaxWatch
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Nerill, do you have the same concern for our House of Assembly in NL; open for only a few weeks. Do we have a need for Democracy ?

  • Pierre
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Puh-leeze! Harper is exercising the democratic rights of the Prime Minister. Chrétien did 4 times during his term and Trudeau did it 11 times. So, PM Harper is prorogue amateur.

    Plus calling him a tyrant or dictator says more about those who criticize him than it does say about him. He has constantly been for a democratically elected senate and is constantly being pushed in the other direction by current senators (mainly liberal ones).

    Most lefty journalists such as Ms. Payne (funny how the last name is fitting), should go back to school and learn about recent parliamentary history. Then, the criticism may be different. In fact, it may be more congratulatory, but, more importantly, it would at least be well researched and an educated opinion, not hearsay.

  • Cait
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Lana, your article has reinforced the reason we must take to the streets JANUARY 23RD! Fabulous article that hits at the heart of the Harper regime. Challenging Harper and his flagrant attack on democracy is a non-partisan issue, and regardless of one's political affiliation, we should all, in the end, stand on the SIDE OF DEMOCRACY!

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Lana,if the N.D.P was the federal government and Taliban Jack decided to prorogue government,would you really care?I think not.

  • Daisy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    We should consider the fact that our parliament has been prorogued 105 times before, thus it seems that this issue is being driven by those who are either ignorant of our parliamentary history, or for partisan reasons.EG Mr. Chretien prorogued parliament to escape the Adscam fallout when his Liberal government stole millions of dollars from the treasury, a far more serious situation than todays closing of parliament for five weeks longer than it otherwise would. In this instance the government will be able to appoint 5 more senators to give them a chance to pass bills that the previous Liberal dominated senate had blocked and will be able to reconstitute the parliamentary committees which will stop the oppositions games at trying to create scandals. In any case the issue of torture of prisoners in Afghanistan, is a major hypocritical one for the Liberals to be yapping about since their leader is the only Canadian political leader in a long long time (possibly ever) to have suggested (while as a Professor) that some forms of torture are okay with him.

  • Nerill
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Firstly, just thought I should point out that the majority of voters did NOT vote for the current Federal Govt. And I agree ANY party proroguing parliament, seemingly, to avoid being taken to task for their actions is wrong. Finally, Taxwatch, I agree. Mr Williams also does not seem to be running a Democracy: however a vast majority voted for him and you reap what you sow. Now Imagine that behavior at a National level should Mr Harper get a similar majority. Let's show him that the majority has a voice and join the rally on the 23rd of January.

  • Ronald J
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Economist magazine is right up there with the European tabloids that stalk the Royal's.
    Throw in the G&M, CBC, TorStar and few other lefties and you could sail a ship of fools.
    The opposition talks big but let us put it up to an election and see how many of these smart a$$es will have the guts to go for it.
    Thought so - None! A coalition of the non-willing.
    So endith the lesson for today.

  • Laurie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Seems like there are many Harper apologists commenting on this story. ;) Well, I'm sorry to tell you folks, the proroguing of Parliament has finally opened the eyes of many Canadians. Stevie is sinking in the polls.... The Conservatives will never have their treasured majority with Harper at the the helm. Hmm... time for a new leader, perhaps?

  • donald
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Reading the comments of those who support Harper, that is, and do not seem to care much if he is hastening our ongoing loss of democracy, it looks like that there are too many Canadian voters who simply do not understand what Harper is doing and seem happy to sit back and let this would be dictator ride roughshod over our traditions until we lose our democracy altogether.
    Those repeatedly pointing out that proroguing has happened so many times before overlook that Harper did it for no reason but to save his job and stave off embarrassment. It has been often pointed out, but apparently not often enough, that parliament has historically almost always been prorogued for good and legitimate reasons.
    Those reminding us that the Liberals did roughly the same thing are saying that if someone breaks the law, that makes it OK for anyone else to.
    Those making the crude complaints about the opposition caring more about our enemies than our troops are listening only to Harper's blame somebody, anybody else propaganda. As anyone paying attention knows, the opposition have voiced no complaint about our troops, but only about Harper's and his Cabinet's refusal to answer to parliament and disprove the accusations of irresponsibility and failure to uphold Canadian standards of conduct in war abroad and to uphold standards of parliamentary democracy at home.

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Lana and the rest of you two faced people: Jean Chretien did it 4 times, once for 70 plus days. Why is ok for the Liberals to do it but not the Conservatives? You have to explain that before you can write a column like this. What about the election Jean Chretian held just because Day dared him to? How much money did that cost us? But Lana, that is ok in your books? Why is that? Face it. You are a Liberal mouth piece who ignores the evils of the Liberals and attacks the Conservatives. Try being objective for once and look at the Liberals and the Conservatives. Oh, maybe you can do an article about all the jobs created when Chretian went to China. Where are they Lana? Just another Liberal make me feel good moment. The truth is hard to accept Lana.

  • Alan
    July 01, 2010 - 20:25

    The Conservative is just like the B.C. Liberals,here i B.C. we have the p.s.t a carbon tax which goes up every two to three months and now the H.S.T which is going to jack everything up 7% more this is hard times still, to me it looks like the Conservatives do not want us here to get ride of all the working poor and the disabled, how about the governments pay come down to minimum wage and they can see what it is like to live on that.You guys care more about the 2010 game then the good people of Canada that pay your high wages.

  • Gerald
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    There is a point that all of you lefties cannot accept, and that is the Harper government IS the3 democratically elected Government in Canada. The Libs weren't elected; the dippers weren't elected. Why were they not elected? Because the electorate knows what it's up to. They have what they voted for and don't ever forget it.
    And furthermore, after the next election we will have another Conservative Government. And, of course, in your opinion, the people will be wrong again.
    When will you ever learn? The people are always right!

  • Eli
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    Too bad this Lana gal is Canadian. She'd make a pretty good reporter in a English-speaking democracy like England.

  • Lewis
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    Pierre Pharand,
    Excellent post-well thought out, informed and accurate.
    What a contrast with today's government taking such quick and decisive action in Haiti compared to Martin, Chretien et al and their pathetic actions in previous world disasters.


    Lewis

  • Ras
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    You people must have too much time on your hands. Two weeks of no parliament and you see the end of democracy? What a bunch of morons.

  • Bob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Let's see .. Chretien porogued 4 TIMES! Where was the outrage then?? The media didn't blink! This is nothing more than a media-driven, politically motivated witch hunt. Chretien porogued once for 80+ days without causing a fuss. Harper's porogue amounts to 22 days. BIG DEAL - GET REAL.

    The opposition deserves to be shut out anyway - over their disgraceful, cowardly attacks on Canadian soldiers, acting as the mouthpiece of Taliban propoganda and using the detainee non-issue as disgusting low-ball slander targetted at the PMO.. and for what? To score political potty points? These weazels are beneath contempt - and that goes for the CBC - the main driver in all this rubbish!

  • Greig
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Firstly, we are talking about 17 working days here, not the 4 months that the lefys and MSM want us to believe. If this is what is required to slap down, the partisan self serving Liberal Senators, to allow passage of legislation that was supported by the majority of the MP's including the Liberals then it is worthwhile. The whole thing could have been avoided had Iffy shown some backbone and reined in his lefty Senator buddies. The Liberal party of Toronto is becoming more irrelevant it that is possible. Keep up the good work Prime Minister Harper!

  • J Bruce
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    Spoken like a true Liberal...with no mention of Chretien's 82 day closing down parliament....or the majority of the 105 times ..mainly by the Libaral Party.
    How about Trudea's passing of many laws....with Orders in Counil- laws made or changed without debate!

    As Goebel's said.... If you repeat a lie often enough....it becomes accpeted as truth ( or words to that affect)

    JBW

  • Ruth
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    The truth is that what Harper has done is UNPRECEDENTED in modern times, not just in Canada but in every similar parliamentary system.

    The Conservative spin machine is telling you that Chretien prorogued parliament in 2003 to avoid getting the Adscan report. But the November to January, 2003 prorogue was done the day before Paul Martin took over as leader of the party, replacing Chretien. The purpose of prorogation is to finish one session of parliament so that the agenda can be reset. A new prime minister taking over is exactly the sort of situation for which prorogation exists. Read this article from the day of that prorogue:

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2003/11/12/liberals031112.html

    Read this article on the history of prorogation:

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Only+Canada+Harper+prorogation+Canadian+thing/2448571/story.html

    It says, in part: no other English-speaking nation with a system of government like ours not Britain, Australia or New Zealand has ever had its parliament prorogued in modern times, so that its ruling party could avoid an investigation, or a vote of confidence, by other elected legislators.

  • Wayne
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    Proroguing is a great idea. I applaud the Conservative party for preventing the socialist NDP and corrupt Liberals from using parliament as nothing but a way to level baseless accusations against the sitting government. If these parties do not end their attacks against the government, then by all means I believe the Conservatives should just never bother un-proroguing parliament and should rule indefinitely through the strong confidence that the voters of Canada gave them during the last election.

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    To paraphrase the late, great Pierre Trudeau: Parliament is just a talking shop, a rubber-stamp for the real government -- i.e., the Cabinet.

    Our Fuhrer, Stephen Harper, is living proof of the former prime minister's view. Sieg Heil !!

  • Laurie
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    Durward Saar from Coquitlam, BC writes....The Economist is not a respected magazine, it's a joke....

    Yeah, right! The Economist is one of the most respected magazines in the Western world! And, it's a conservative, right-wing magazine, I might add! This makes its criticism of Harper's actions even more outstanding. Your comments are about as rediculous as Harper's reasons for proroguing Parliament!

  • Ron
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    Parliament has been prorogued 105 times, and each time it has been just as constitutional and legal as the last; this is a fact. To say otherwise is an outright lie just as saying that we are prorogued now is also an outright lie. (it starts Jan 25)

    Those like yourself who are against this constitutional power are the ones that are the real danger to our system because you want to change what has worked for Canada for over 140 years. Even Ignatieff admitted that he is not interested in taking this power away and he is right, but that wont stop the Liberals from the fake outrage crying out against something that they agree with, hoping that you don't notice.

    I like our constitution just fine thank you very much. Beware of those that want to change it and lie to you while trying to do so.

  • Townie
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    I don't think that the current media has anything to do with democracy. They all seem to be minions of the Conservatives in particular Global and CTV and its subs. No one stands for anything anymore.

  • Jack
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    Seems Canada is going towards a dictatorship.

  • Durward
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    I think your pretty stupid actually, and you prove it with this nonsense.
    The Economist is not a respected magazine, it's a joke to all but the math challenged, Just like East Anglia CRU is only respected by those who are science and truth challenged.
    Further-more the MSM has not been credible for decades and failing to cover Climate-gate showed just how disinterested they are in the truth, biggest story ever and they ignore it so as not to embarrass the Liberals.
    Sorry but yea IMO you are stupid and proroguing of Parliament starts Jan 25, it's still Parliaments holidays until then.
    PS your version of history is way off, the Liberals were caught first,then forced to hold a public inquiry that was so limited the Liberal elite walked free because it was made so they could not look at the real story, the politicians who still have not fessed up to what ridings got the money.

  • Pierre
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    Manchild, your name is fitting, as well... is a man, but acts like a child. Your words are spoken like a true sore loser. You can't get over the fact that your leftist standpoint may be going the way of the dodo and that, finally, the left's ways are being exposed for what they are: immature and unsportmenlike (forgive the expression for I didn't have a better one).

    It seems that there is a conservative shift in the country, not conservative enough in my opinion, but conservative nonetheless. The Liberal Party seems to be imploding from the inside because the current roster seems to be those cut from a same, albeit tattered, cloth. All the former liberal all-stars seem to want nothing to do with the party nowadays. Examples of this are John Manley and Frank McKenna, to name a few.

    Thank God we have PM Harper who would rather deal with the issues our country has to deal with, rather than petty politics. Liberals and NDPers are experts in the aforementioned petty parts of Parliament and, therefore, are insignificant wastes of air in the House.

    Plus, Townie, saying that CTV and Global are biased is a far stretch. What differentiates them from the CBC is that they have a far less significant Liberal and NDP bias. In other words, real journalism (or the closest thing to it in Canada).

  • Bryson
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    I think everyone should go to the rally at Colonial Building on Saturday. Stephen Harper is pathetic, we need to stand up for our rights as Canadians.

  • Frank M
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    All of the parties and the politicians are alike.

    Jack harris and Jack Layton could have brought down the Conservatives in September but instead they chose to support the government.

    Ms. Payne, in all honesty, they are all alike.

    The Liberals prorogued parlaiment to avoid the Auditor General's report in Adscam and at the same time avoided questions from the Somalia inquiry.

    All politicians from all parties are alike.

    63 members of the Bloc Quebecois will be eligible for their federal MP pensions in mid June, so don't expect them to rock the boat anytime soon.

    They are all alike, so an attack on the harper Conservatives alone is devoid of any intellectual honesty.

  • D'Arcy
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    We think you are pretty stupid down dere. After all you elect a lot of crooks provincially, & vote Lib/Dipper federally,
    Dumb dee dumb dumb

  • John West
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    I remember you most adored PM stating that once MPs got fifty feet away from Parliament, they were just a bunch of nobodies.

    I couldn't agree more, so what's the big deal if they are not sitting in the house acting like monkeys banging tables and shouting.

    Harper is the best PM we have had since I cannot remember when. He simply saw no reason to have a bunch of Leftist loons sympathizing ad nauseum over the treatment of our enemies at the hands of their own.

    No one really cares, but most do care about the safety of our troops. It's a war $hit happens, give it a rest.

    The country runs even more smoothly when parliament is not in session. Enjoy the Olympics and if you haven't have had your daily dose of empathy, check out the goings on in Haiti for awhile and stop complaining about nothing.

  • Taxpayer ll
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    35 or 40 million people and the best the Liberals could come up with is Iggy. if the liberal party had a leader the people could get behind, Harper would be toast.

  • Nerill
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Couldn't agree more. You are not alone. Everyone who disagrees with this attack on democracy should consider doing something about it. Join the Canadians Against Proroguing Parliament Rally
    Saturday, January 23, 2010
    Time:
    1:00pm - 2:00pm
    Location:
    Colonial Building
    Street:
    Military Road
    For details see - http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=254408292826&ref=mf

  • Wayne
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Fed up? Sign Fair Vote Canada's a href= http://www.fairvote.ca/en/civicrm/profile/create?gid=7&reset=1 / Declaration of Voters' Rights /a now!

  • Tuco
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    I was never interested in politics until Stevem Harper showed up.

    This man has balls, he makes things happen, sometimes right, sometimes maybe not so, but I would rather have 1 Harper sitting at any international table representing my interests then a dozen and half over-cooked, conceded, and self-interested mamby-pamby Ignatieffs and his bleeding-heart, brown-paper bag stuffing ilk.

  • david
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    Let's follow Andrew Coyne's advice in his article in Macleans, Parliament: Who Needs It and stop electing individuals and start voting for a party so Parliament can be called just once a year. This would be known as a democratically elected dictatorship - one of a kind in the world - winner takes all and the losing political parties can go home and save a lot of money. Thanks for your brilliance, Andrew.

  • Margaret
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    The Economist is a very well-respected magazine; I'd subscribe, but it costs around $168 a year. It's packed with information, and has excellent writers. Trust someone from here to lump it in with gossip magazines.

    Try reading one sometime, Ronald J. If you can, that is. It's not light reading.

    Harper was very accurately portrayed in The Economist. They have it bang-on - absolutely right. Naked self-interest for sure -- and I think his power has gone straight to his head. He's now addicted to it - because he doesn't have a career as a lawyer, author, or professor - or even accountant to go to when he leaves (with a crowbar prying his hands off the doorknob) 24 Sussex. No more bodyguards, no more special car, no more paid trips all over the world, and no more hanging out with the glitterati of Europe.

    So - as far as I can see, he has found out how much power the PM of Canada can have, and he is addicted to it. He was TRUSTED with the combination to the safe, and he's used it for himself, and won't let anyone else see what's in there now.

  • dicky doo
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Tell harper and that lepracuan, hugging that pot of gold that they don't know what to do with, to get out of here and that we want canada back. I am glad Iggy was fortunate to see a smuggled over canadian newspaper and saw the shambled state the country was in, under going harpers reign. He came back because he knew canada needed, not only him and what he had to offer to canadians but something better and at least choice. He faced everything expect booby traps to get to where he stands today. Steve and the Gang had to break up a national party to do that, and further more he was hungrey for all this power and look now what he's done and his actions so far since he has gotten the JOB. I expect we'll have to go strongs lengths to avoid an election this year either harper and his sexy comrades are going on strike or they'll need to preform the first exorcisim in the house of commons. As for fabian, well, when he's on the tv, I like to mute it and every time he opens and closes his mouth, to answer a question, all I can picture is the senator puckered up and blowing kisses to stevie's back side. The same way a cod fish mouth comes together. What ever happened to a simple ear tug? Thats what ya get I guess, the fish always goes for the biggest worm. He'll soon have a few more elbows to rub in the senate playroom. Rumor has it that canadian tv personalities considered were both biff and bart, jesse from the beachcombers and the guy who played joe gumba from North of 60. I know now what the P stands for in PM. LOL..... prorogued?

  • Laurie
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    We should consider the fact that our parliament has been prorogued 105 times before....

    Well, this is misleading. In all but 3 of those instances, Parliament was prorogued for legitimate reasons: 1) In advance of an election. 2) The legislative agenda was completed. 3) Prior to a visit of the Queen or King, so that her/his Majesty could re-open Parliament.

    On only 3 occasions has it ever been prorogued for partisen self-interests. Now, the Conservative have done it twice in a year! The Economist is correct - on both occasions, it was done out of naked self-interest . This government is a disgrace and makes makes a mockery of democracy and of those who have a right to hold it accountable.

  • Adscam
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    So this is where is the village idiots gather. Steve has got them right where they should be, in opposition or denial. All that's happening is a lot of hot air. Put your dukes up and get those leftist MP's to cause an election. Me thinks Steve will do just fine and then he might sing another song, this time by Queen, We are the Champions.

  • Ray
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    When the House of Commons is continually hampered by unimpotant issues and whinning brought on by the opposition and little important business is being processed it only makes sense to close parliament. Opposition blackmailing at every turn puts the more important issues on the back burner. So if the opposition wants to go to work, I suggest they change their method of doing business.

  • Stop the Racket
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    You dont really want to know how stupid we think you are Lana. Why dont you concentrate your efforts on our little dictator right here at home. Tell us how you think Danny measures up Lana. I have always said that in NL the NDP is a great party but as long as they have members like you in it that party will never amount to anything. If I could make a choice between Harper and Williams Harper wins hands down. The last session of the House of Assembly Williams wasnt even there most of the time he thought it was more important to be in Alberta bashing Prime Minister Harper just the way you like to do. If theres ant good in all this its that Jack Looser Layton will never be in a position of power and he will fade off into the sunset complaining about everything just like you do.

  • Manchild
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    I hope this grassroots movement on facebook can continue as a grassroots movement to defeat conservatives in the next election. At the moment the only way to defeat the conservatives is to vote for the strongest non conservative candidate, regardless of party, in conservative held ridings where the combined opposition vote was higher than the conservative vote last time. The opposition party's themselves won't agree to this so it's up to you and me. We grassrooters are our county's only hope. We have the power but do we have the will? Please look at Elections Canada's web site to determine which ridings are vulnerable for the conservatives and volunteer your time there next election. If you live in a hopelessly conservative riding where they took well over 50% of the vote last time then don't spend much time there. Please volunteer in vulnerable conservative ridings. But most importantly - talk it up. Get others to do the same. We have the power in what's left of our democracy to over ride the politicians partisan posturing. If we don't do this we are very likey to get Harper and the conservatives back in power again to continue their destruction of our democratic rights and our reputation as one of the best country's on earth. If we act together and vote strategically and work at convincing others to do the same we will prevail. The result of this movement will likely be a Liberal minority government with a stronger NDP element. We can all live with this at least until the conservatives get rid of Harper and select someone a bit more reasonable and balanced as their leader. We can do this.

  • sandy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    an election gets this pm a majority........

    so, harper is bullying the opposition, who are sporting ferocious daggers in their words, into a gunfight.

    the once-guard who should be crying out from their pulpits are, well, singing in their chains; the business man can't say anything because if he does, there is a good chance he does not get any of that bail out money which is coming to him, after all this time, shortly. .. and most have voted harper in there anyways.

    the senators even our own here from this north atlantic isle seem to be basking in their own glory and enjoying such a permanent position in the cold current of affairs.

    there is thus only the doings of facebook and other screams from the bloqsphere and bien sur writings such as yours which will undo the machiavellian at work ( augh, non-work ) on the Hill.

    protest is fertile.

    sf

  • Louis
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    Well John West is misinformed for believing in Harper. Once a conserative always a conservative, same goes for most people - their respective parties can do now wrong. The real issue here is, do we really need a GG? She is in the end responsible for proroguing parliament - TWICE - as far as I am concern this position is redundant and a waste of tax payers money(along with the Senate).

  • Benito
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    I agree with Stephen Harper that democracy is detrimental to the efficient functioning of an economy. Let the captains of industry get on with running the country without the distractions of the mob.

  • TaxWatch
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    Nerill, do you have the same concern for our House of Assembly in NL; open for only a few weeks. Do we have a need for Democracy ?

  • Pierre
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    Puh-leeze! Harper is exercising the democratic rights of the Prime Minister. Chrétien did 4 times during his term and Trudeau did it 11 times. So, PM Harper is prorogue amateur.

    Plus calling him a tyrant or dictator says more about those who criticize him than it does say about him. He has constantly been for a democratically elected senate and is constantly being pushed in the other direction by current senators (mainly liberal ones).

    Most lefty journalists such as Ms. Payne (funny how the last name is fitting), should go back to school and learn about recent parliamentary history. Then, the criticism may be different. In fact, it may be more congratulatory, but, more importantly, it would at least be well researched and an educated opinion, not hearsay.

  • Cait
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Lana, your article has reinforced the reason we must take to the streets JANUARY 23RD! Fabulous article that hits at the heart of the Harper regime. Challenging Harper and his flagrant attack on democracy is a non-partisan issue, and regardless of one's political affiliation, we should all, in the end, stand on the SIDE OF DEMOCRACY!

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    Lana,if the N.D.P was the federal government and Taliban Jack decided to prorogue government,would you really care?I think not.

  • Daisy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:47

    We should consider the fact that our parliament has been prorogued 105 times before, thus it seems that this issue is being driven by those who are either ignorant of our parliamentary history, or for partisan reasons.EG Mr. Chretien prorogued parliament to escape the Adscam fallout when his Liberal government stole millions of dollars from the treasury, a far more serious situation than todays closing of parliament for five weeks longer than it otherwise would. In this instance the government will be able to appoint 5 more senators to give them a chance to pass bills that the previous Liberal dominated senate had blocked and will be able to reconstitute the parliamentary committees which will stop the oppositions games at trying to create scandals. In any case the issue of torture of prisoners in Afghanistan, is a major hypocritical one for the Liberals to be yapping about since their leader is the only Canadian political leader in a long long time (possibly ever) to have suggested (while as a Professor) that some forms of torture are okay with him.

  • Nerill
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    Firstly, just thought I should point out that the majority of voters did NOT vote for the current Federal Govt. And I agree ANY party proroguing parliament, seemingly, to avoid being taken to task for their actions is wrong. Finally, Taxwatch, I agree. Mr Williams also does not seem to be running a Democracy: however a vast majority voted for him and you reap what you sow. Now Imagine that behavior at a National level should Mr Harper get a similar majority. Let's show him that the majority has a voice and join the rally on the 23rd of January.

  • Ronald J
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    Economist magazine is right up there with the European tabloids that stalk the Royal's.
    Throw in the G&M, CBC, TorStar and few other lefties and you could sail a ship of fools.
    The opposition talks big but let us put it up to an election and see how many of these smart a$$es will have the guts to go for it.
    Thought so - None! A coalition of the non-willing.
    So endith the lesson for today.

  • Laurie
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    Seems like there are many Harper apologists commenting on this story. ;) Well, I'm sorry to tell you folks, the proroguing of Parliament has finally opened the eyes of many Canadians. Stevie is sinking in the polls.... The Conservatives will never have their treasured majority with Harper at the the helm. Hmm... time for a new leader, perhaps?

  • donald
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    Reading the comments of those who support Harper, that is, and do not seem to care much if he is hastening our ongoing loss of democracy, it looks like that there are too many Canadian voters who simply do not understand what Harper is doing and seem happy to sit back and let this would be dictator ride roughshod over our traditions until we lose our democracy altogether.
    Those repeatedly pointing out that proroguing has happened so many times before overlook that Harper did it for no reason but to save his job and stave off embarrassment. It has been often pointed out, but apparently not often enough, that parliament has historically almost always been prorogued for good and legitimate reasons.
    Those reminding us that the Liberals did roughly the same thing are saying that if someone breaks the law, that makes it OK for anyone else to.
    Those making the crude complaints about the opposition caring more about our enemies than our troops are listening only to Harper's blame somebody, anybody else propaganda. As anyone paying attention knows, the opposition have voiced no complaint about our troops, but only about Harper's and his Cabinet's refusal to answer to parliament and disprove the accusations of irresponsibility and failure to uphold Canadian standards of conduct in war abroad and to uphold standards of parliamentary democracy at home.

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    Lana and the rest of you two faced people: Jean Chretien did it 4 times, once for 70 plus days. Why is ok for the Liberals to do it but not the Conservatives? You have to explain that before you can write a column like this. What about the election Jean Chretian held just because Day dared him to? How much money did that cost us? But Lana, that is ok in your books? Why is that? Face it. You are a Liberal mouth piece who ignores the evils of the Liberals and attacks the Conservatives. Try being objective for once and look at the Liberals and the Conservatives. Oh, maybe you can do an article about all the jobs created when Chretian went to China. Where are they Lana? Just another Liberal make me feel good moment. The truth is hard to accept Lana.