Why I've gone off 'Republic of Doyle'

Peter
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If there's one truth that has withstood the test of time - and the varying demands of societal mores - it is that sex sells.

That shiny car would look lonely without the blond in a slinky dress. Nothing goes better with beer than a flock of party girls in short shorts. And while he may be animated, Mr. Clean is every housewife's dream, right down to muscle-packed T-shirt and gold earring.

If there's one truth that has withstood the test of time - and the varying demands of societal mores - it is that sex sells.

That shiny car would look lonely without the blond in a slinky dress. Nothing goes better with beer than a flock of party girls in short shorts. And while he may be animated, Mr. Clean is every housewife's dream, right down to muscle-packed T-shirt and gold earring.

The theory is that even those who see through such tasteless stereotypes are still titillated on some subconscious level.

The same is true of television shows.

As the barriers fall with every new generation, we're inundated with more and more scenes of nudity, lust and unbridled boinkery.

"You wouldn't see that in my day," chorus the older crowd. "It's disgusting - shouldn't be allowed."

When I saw the inaugural episode of "Grey's Anatomy" several years ago, I thought I was hooked. The premise was clever: young interns stumbling through the pressure cooker of hospital life.

Then, it quickly lapsed into "Peyton Place." Who made whoopee in the linen closet? Who caught who in bed with so-and-so? A promising drama turned into a sex romp.

In fact, there's little else but sex romps on the tube these days - with marginal restrictions on network television, and pretty well no censorship at all on cable channels like HBO.

Parade of flesh

Now, I'm loathe to be judgmental about sexual voyeurism in itself, mainly for fear of being labelled a prude.

But even if you're desensitized to the parade of flesh on the screen, at some point you have to admit the stuff can get in the way of a good story. More so if the sexual exploits bear little resemblance to any reality you're aware of. After all, who watches porn for the plot?

Enter "Republic of Doyle."

Believe it or not, I was young once, and I can attest (from observation more than personal experience) that courtship and commitment were often considered unnecessary hindrances. People slept around, period.

So, when I see characters on "Republic" locking lips at every opportunity, there's a ring of truth in it. I've certainly known a few real-life skeets who, like the main character Jake Doyle, tried to hop in the sack with every long-legged looker they met.

The problem is, Jake Doyle usually succeeds. The women are all horny and indiscriminate; all but a couple of them exist for little other purpose than to throw themselves at Jake at least once every show. And some sort of "chemistry" usually develops with guest characters as well.

In a nutshell, the show is sexist.

Ironic preview

It took a few episodes to realize this. And there's an irony in the fact that a preview of it was so warmly received by patrons at last year's women's film festival in St. John's. I wonder whether anyone has since had second thoughts.

There are other reasons why "Republic" has failed to keep me hooked. One is the prevalence of a distinctly St. John's style of Irish romanticism. It's very much a "townie" show, and I wouldn't be surprised if it alienates many rural Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.

As well, violence - or threat thereof - seems to be another vice that's in no short supply.

"Republic" held promise of being a refreshingly new show, one that showcased the colourful character of St. John's and its inhabitants. To a great extent, it does.

It's unfortunate, then, that instead of standing apart from the usual shlock on TV these days, it has instead offered more of the same.

Much more.

Peter Jackson is The Telegram's commentary editor. He can be contacted by e-mail at pjackson@thetelegram.com.

Geographic location: St. John's, Peyton Place

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  • Walter J
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Though I disagree with Mr. Jackson, Nathan Drake is off his rocker.

    • Maureen E
      February 12, 2012 - 12:09

      I am falling out of love with Republic of Doyle. The repetitive plots (how many times must Jake get hit or be lusted after by every female he meets) and the gigantic holes in those plots are beginning to become stale. The forced, exaggerated Newfie accents are disconcerting and sound fake. Why can't they speak in their own voices? Most of them are Newfoundlanders anyway, aren't they? The storylines and acting are going to have to improve or I will have to exercise my option to not watch it. I had such high hopes for the show:)

  • IWantTOLIkeThisShow
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    I had high hopes for this show. I really wanted to like it. It is trying too hard and is in no way, shape or form even close to the Rockford files or Magnum PI. Find one show of the either of these series where the opening shot is of them having sex with a client?

    There is nothing wrong with sex but there is a problem with gratuitous sex.

    One other problem is the poor story lines.

    The biggest problem is that I just can not like the main character. He is not a rogue or a ladies man but a (ok put in a word here that rhymes with glut).

    Which is too bad as I like most of the other characters in the show. The father and his wife and Tiny and the Constable are great!

    I have really enjoyed the guest stars.

    I would love to see rating for the number of people from outside of Newfoundland that started to watch and have stopped after a show or two.

    Which is a shame as I love the views of the city as the camera work is excellent.

    I am hoping that the creator gets a lot less self indulgent and that the show improves and gets a second season after it has worked out the kinks!(double entendre intended)

  • Red
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    I think this is a fun show! By the way, skankiness is not limited to NL. ha~
    I'm a Newfoundland woman, and I can tell you there are plenty of offensive things to get all up in arms about in this world, but the characters on a tv series? Nah~
    Jake is a charmer. Haven't you ever met a Jake before? I don't think Republic of Doyle is going to give Newfoundlanders a bad reputation. What odds! The show will be great for tourism, fog or no fog!

  • Mandy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Why does everyone have a problem with the sexual content? Maybe you people should open your eyes.
    We are all having sex.
    Part of the hilarity of the show is that women throw themselves at him. Its part of his character and it's endearing.
    The show is written well, and it's clever. And how does sexual content in a show make a society vulgar?
    Do you watch any tv? there is sex in EVERY show. We like sex. We want to see. We want to talk about it. And we want to do it.
    And really, we want to do it with people who look like allan hawco, and act like doyle.

  • Polly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    BRAVO PETER----------- There is no substitute for good taste .It was suggested that R of D was loosely based on The Rockford Files ------ I was a great fan of RF and an even greater fan of detective novels .RF was notable for the quality of its writing .James or Jimmy to his friends prefered to talk ---- not resorting to violence . James' love life with Beth was more hinted at , unlike the explicit sex scenes of R of D. Sex is a poor substitute for quality writing today .Why leave a viewer thinking through a plot when you can so easily give them cheap thrills.

  • Corey
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Yeah, they could do without some of the nude scenes and that, I agree with that part. But I do enjoy the show, seems like it's getting better each week. Doesn't hurt for the province to gain some national exposure across the country either. So WHAT about the accents, it's what makes us unique I guess. BTW, they HAVE picked up the show for a 2nd season I hear. That must disappoint a few of you here I guess. Too bad LOL. Keep it up Republic Of Doyle!

  • Anna
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Peter if you don't want to see people locking lips go watch Land and Sea. I find the show very entertaining and I am delighted that there are no Newfie jokes or interviews with the village idiot.

  • Amanda
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    I totally agree with Peter here.

    I tried to give this show a chance, and 30 minutes into the first episode, I knew it was pitiful. Yeah, the scenery is lovely, but that's not enough to keep a plot interesting.

    What really bugs me is the Newfoundland music blaring during car chases, fights, and between scenes...just STOP it!!! Also, the exaggerated accents are so annoying. I live in St. John's, and the majority of people do not talk like that!

    And the inclusion of sex in the show is nauseating. As if Allan Hawco is George Clooney. This is definitely NOT a family show. The viewers are dwindling each week. In the end, just NL will be watching, and sadly, that's just not enough viewers. I will be surprised if it lasts one season.

    • Brian
      December 28, 2012 - 12:53

      Well, Amanda, you got that wrong, didn't you? Fourth season, here we come. Republic of Doyle is a breath of fresh air on TV nowadays, a TV schedule that is filled with reality TV crap and music shows where 16 year olds tell us about how they've "been dreaming of this for my WHOLE life". RoD is sharp, witty, exciting, has great chemistry and dialogue between the characters, and is original in its St. John's location (which is beautiful by the way). Whether it's in the same league as Magnum PI or not, I'm not sure. I've only seen a few episodes of the latter so I can't make any comparisons there. However, that is irrelevant. The show has a lot going for it, and it mixes drama and comedy excellently (though, I will admit, a little more of the drama side would be cool). I also don't agree the show is sexist. Rose, particularly, but also Tinny and Leslie, are powerful characters, all well capable of taking care of themselves. Keep up the good work, RoD.

  • Jim
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    I disagree Peter. I am from Central and I love the show. For the first time ever, NL has a quality drama to which I could compare the writing quaility to that of NCIS. I am proud of this show. Keep it up!!

  • ben
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    i had watched republic of doyle as i had heard it was a true NL made show. how disappointing i agree its done in terrible taste it makes the women on there look like wEEEEEEEEE's it has turned me off completely and i am very proud of being from NL but i can't stand to watch that show. i beleive its part of what makes our society vulgar.

  • Here we
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    The Telegram is worse then Open Line - highlighting what most Newfoundlanders do best... complain.

    I imagine if Peter Jackson had his way we'd be watching Star Trek, with Newfie accents.

  • Tim
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    This column raises some very legitmate points, and is much more pertinent to some of the social challenges we face than what is caused by 'religious nuts' or 'fat people'.

    Nathan Drake's 'comment' is simply an hour or so wasted putting together a rant which few will take seriously.

    Signed,

    A Stereotypical Religious Nut (apparently)

  • Heather
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    The only things that bother me about the sexual content of Doyle are: (a) I'm not the one having sex and (b) as a post menopausal woman (not by much!) the Jake Doyle's of this world are no longer interested in having sex with me!

  • being
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    To Start, i havwe to say, i enjoy the show, but two weeks ago i let the kids watch the show because a scene eas filmed in our area. the story began with a very vivid portrail of Jake having vigorous sex with the wife of a man he was hired to see if she was cheating on him. this was too graphic especially for kids, and before you say i'm a prude, if i want to watch this type of stuff i'll rent a porn. sex doesn't have to be into every tv show to make it good. thats put in because the writers know that their writing content is not enough to keep people hooked, plain and simple.

  • Liz
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Nathan Drake - are you 12 years old, developmentally delayed or just deliberately obtuse?

    All sexual representation is not the same. Some is smart and sexy, some is dumb and insulting, particularly to women. Some sexual representation tells us that women are here for sex and sex only and are not actual real human beings. A lot of TV sexism indicates that the writers think that the audience is entirely made up of adolescent males.

    The fact that many women now claim to enjoy degrading and insulting scenarios does not alter the fact of the insult and degradation.

    Your comment anyone who has a problem with this is too uptight or too unattractive to get laid is ugly and bigoted. I feel very sorry for any and all of the people in your life, especially the women, if this is how you see and value other human beings.

  • Liz
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Thanks Peter Jackson for calling this what it is - SEXIST and risking the inevitable name-calling that comes with pointing to insulting content like ROD.

    Folks, its NOT the sex, it's the fact that the women are all there FOR sex/decoration first and foremost, and that despite the fact that soe of the female characters are apparently competent enough to hold significant jobs - a doctor, a cop, they are all pathetically desperate to jump the sexless man-child, Jake.

    I gave up after episode 1. Too pathetic.

    Want on-screen sex without the sexism? Try Tell Me You Love Me or Hung.

    Calling Mr. Jackson a prude is ignorant and reactionary.

  • William
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    I enjoyed the first few shows but it is getting a little tired. Too much of the same thing now. Last week I lost interest half way through the show. The Jake character is just overdone, the father is quite good, the lawyer is superb, the cop detective isn't strong enough. It is great to see some our great comedians get work but give the comedy a break. It isn't that funny.
    Sexist? Maybe, but for me the show is becoming too predictable.

  • villergirl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    LAme LamE lAME..

    R of D is a great show.. not just for a newfoundland show. Its all around good, fun.. likable charaters.. whats the matter with you people!!!! Newfoundland Jealously i suppose!!!

    Jake it hot. The Constable is Hot. .Heck.. Even Jake's step mom is Hot.!! and you expect the show to be NOT sexual? Go watch Road to Avonlea.

    The show is set in St. John's. If they are going to bring up every community on the island its going to get pretty tricky. Get a life. when there is a show about your community you'll hear it then!

  • Angelica
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    I am a little concerned about the sexual content, but what's good about Doyle has me hooked - Go Jake!!

  • Neal
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Aren't PI shows like this supposed to have a certain amount of sex appeal to them? Did Thomas Magnum ever hook up on the island of Hawaii? Or would you have his character be more like Higgins ( a prude)? Peter for your sake I'm pretty sure De Ja View shows re-runs of Murder She Wrote on Wednesday nights so you can tune in there if Doyle is too much for you.

  • Sounding
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Agree on the point of the nauseating make-out scenes like we need to see them. Thought we were way past those ego chest pounding ape foolishness. I will say the show is well shot and produced but the editor could have pushed that fade scene button a bit sooner on some scene endings.

  • Sonya
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    I totally agree with Peter here.

    I tried to give this show a chance, and 30 minutes into the first episode, I knew it was pitiful. Yeah, the scenery is lovely, but that's not enough to keep a plot interesting.

    What really bugs me is the Newfoundland music blaring during car chases, fights, and between scenes...just STOP it!!! Also, the exaggerated accents are so annoying. I live in St. John's, and the majority of people do not talk like that!

    And the inclusion of sex in the show is nauseating. As if Allan Hawco is George Clooney. This is definitely NOT a family show. The viewers are dwindling each week. In the end, just NL will be watching, and sadly, that's just not enough viewers. I will be surprised if it lasts one season.

  • theshore
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    I like to call the show Republic of Romeo . The show is cheesy...and I laugh at the fact that Allan Hawco is a producer and that the character he has created for himself is such a ladie's man...how convenient (and annoying).

  • GAR
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    Hey, Here We Go From NL, right on. Betcha Peter Jackson can do that Vulcan thing that Spock does with his fingers. and keeps his Penthouse magazines under his mattress so mommy won't see. Probably spends too much time locked in the bathroom too.lol.

  • Leslie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    Republic of Doyle is sexist, absolutely--but I'm afraid Mr. Jackson's reasons for saying so are as stuck-in-the-20th century as the show. In this millennium, Canadian women actually can indiscriminately have sex with whomever; that Jake seems to meet an awful lot of mentally unstable sex addicts could just be a case of birds of a feather. However, I can't believe there hasn't been an outcry over the implicit sexism of this: when Jake refuses to sleep with his missus, she belts him one in the chops. Reverse the genders on that, and see how quirky and comical it feels.

  • briny69
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    nail on the head there nathan drake

  • Doyle Fan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    I say Rock On Jake Doyle!! The show is pure entertainment with this awesome city as the backdrop instead of being set in New York or Los Angelos like 80% of all the other shows on television.

    Hope to see you for season two ROD!

  • Sharon
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    I am not offended by the sexual content in the show, every channel you turn on there is something to do with sex, even some kids movies and cartoons have sexual innuendos that may go over the kids heads.. but it is still there. What I don't like about it is the over the top exaggerated Newfie-ness of the show. I don't know about the rest of you.. but I don't know when the last time I told someone they were on glue .. and I might be guilty of saying 'shag it' every now and then.. but it isn't part of my daily vocab, just because the show is in NL doesn't mean they have to fill it with silly sayings that people everywhere else will love to laugh at.. because they will be laughing AT us.. not WITH us. Maybe the characters should be able to talk with their own voice.. instead of trying to fake it and sounding really bad. It isn't even the accent which makes the people seem like they are backwards.. it is using phrases that make no sense and make people sound stupid. You can have a smart and witty show, while using proper english. I think we are just feeding into the mainland sterotype of NL. I am sick of people thinking that Newfies are stupid and you can't understand anything we say... and I think the show feeds into that. The sexual content is probably the only thing that makes the people in the show seem normal!

  • Cathy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    I agree, Yes, Peter you are a prude. Again, rather than positive feedback, the negativity remains steadfast. It's an hour of entertainment, shot here in Newfoundland with home grown actors. It's not the throne speech. Relax you pundants, relax....or blow it out your ear

  • don
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    The Republic of Doyle is just as stupid as that show Mary Walsh starred in about the family that owned the Funeral home and Ambulance service around the bay. We don't need any more stereotyping of Newfoundlanders on television or anywhere else. The Republic of Doyle is not even a lame attempt to spoof Magnum PI, a show which was based on another much warmer and more scenic Island. The Network should cancel the show as soon as possible before we become the butt of more Newfie jokes! I know some folks will lose their jobs, but television performance should be based on the talent of the actors and the and quality of the production and not on whether the show qualifies for tourism based Government grants!

  • Nathan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    The people who dislike sex appeal in pop culture fit into one of the 4 following categories.

    1.) Devoutly Religious People (ie. Crazies). Those who legitimately believe that if they don't have sex in the proper, religious way (Missionary, behind closed doors, In the dark, one and a half minutes in length and never to be discussed), then some giant, angry, bearded white dude will come and tear this planet apart.

    2.) Intimately Awkward People. Those who lack the personality and social skills to lure a woman or man into bed, no matter how good looking they may be. These people learn early on that they are terrible at being intimate, and therefore protest that sex should not be a part of anyones lives if it can't be a part of theirs.

    3.) Overweight and/or Ugly People. This one is pretty self explanatory. These people mope about through life upon realizing that they are unable to find someone who sexually desires them. Rather than doing something productive to change their bad situation (ie. going to the gym, better diet, ect), they usually end up making things worst by becoming depressed and more often than not, becoming even more undesirable and developing an Intimately Awkward personality.

    4.) Feminists and SOME (not all) Menopausal Women. Sorry girls, but this one is exclusive to women. These women feel that it is wrong to depict females as using their sex appeal to get what they want, although this is undeniably commonplace in todays society. They also usually fall into categories 2 and 3, but not always.


    Now, lets just all be thankful that pretty much everyone else loves sex. This is why it is so common in North American Popular Culture. My apologies to all the religious nuts, awkward people, fatties, uglies and feminists. The government may appeal to minorities, but media does not.

  • Christine
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Good Gracious people, it's television!!! If you don't like it, turn it off. Republic of Doyle is a comedic drama. Much of comedy comes from exaggeration. The drama - the whodunnit aspect of the show. I think its FANTASTIC that the show is shot in St John's, such a beautiful city. Peter by' lighten up!

  • Graham
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    It's interesting that everyone mentions the beautiful photography. Yes, that's its best, if not only positive, element. I wanted to enjoy this, but the cliché story lines, the bad writing, and the cliché, one-tensional characters -- none of whom are even likeable, make this uninteresting. Would we be so passionate if this series was set in Oshawa?

  • Kewe
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Finally, a kinded spirit! I too had high hopes for Doyle but have been left with disappointment and a little disdain for our new show. As a half-townie myself, I feel little in common with the characters and any premise in the show, including the accents and colourful shots of our beautiful city. Yes, she glows when the sun shines, but I wonder how production can continue if they continue to shoot only on sunny days! To capture the real essence of the city, a foggy day is in order! And sorry, but in episode 3 ( I t'inks) when the gentleman from The Pearl (the swanky end of Mt. Pearl that is) comes out to Jake and Malachy and calls them 'by's well, that just wouldn't happen. Correct me if I'm wrong Pearligans.
    One last remark from me... it was just two weeks ago on an afternoon call in show on CBC Mr. Hawco was crowing on the family aspect of the show, how clean it was, how proud he was they didn't have to use sex in the show to make it popular, how he wanted to produce a show he could watch with his grandmother and young niece/nephew in the same room with him. Well Allan, I'm glad my 11 year old was in bed during last weeks episode. So much for my new Must See CBC night (I'll continue to tune in to Jeopardy, Dragon's Den, and The Hour) Awww, shag it, I'll continue to tune in to Doyle as I do want to support our local industry. Now I ll just watch the show to see how many times I can laugh and shake my head at the ridiculousness of it. It does make for a good drinking game to drink whenever they say shag in one episode! Good luck, I'll tune it and hope you can make it one million viewers by's.

  • Joanne
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Regarding Nathan Drakes comment about overweight people.I am an overweight person and I despise this comment.Obvious he isn't so how can he comment on other people's feelings.I am a happy person and have been loved by my family and friends for 55 yrs.What have this got to do with R of D? Nathan Drake is obviously a pig and was dragged through life by very uncaring parents who taught him nothing

  • Walter J
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    The show is set in St. John's. It might alienate rural Newfoundlanders as a result? I suppose Beachcombers should have been shot in every nook and cranny of Canada so as to not alienate anybody. As for the show being sexist, I'm at a loss. The women are far from indiscriminate - Jake is perpetually shut down; I suppose he should be celibate entirely. It's possible for the show to depict Jake as a woman-chaser without approving of it. I don't watch Republic of Doyle to learn my manners; Jake doesn't need to be a faultless hero.

  • Ima
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    In the late 60's and early 70's they use to make spaghetti westerns , I see now that it has degraded to cheesy detective shows.

  • I. P. Freely
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Yes Peter, you are a prude...

  • (Another) Pete
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    As an NL Baby Boomer, I find it so entertaining that Television has become so serious, worse, taken so seriously.

    You are correct, the implied topics and attitudes are important and their portrayal deserving of criticism at times. But superficial, exaggerated theatre does have it's place.... non?

    What annoys me, is when the attempt at drama extends to youth. Teen/Post Teen soaps drain the life out the viewers - the characters live the lives of middle aged losers.

    When I was thirty something I used to watch THAT show. I did't know if I would make it to forty something with any happiness of living. The Seinfeld characters - show about nothing - saved my zest for TV serials. [although the stand up disasterous incident with the Kramer Actor broke my heart - no lie].

    I don't know Peter, sitting in front of HD, while Actors portray the emotionally graphic or literally graphic lives of human beings imploding doesn't qualify as entertaintment to me, acting or no acting.

    Foolishness with a GTO in the background, a hot chick cop, a love sick doctor and a neurotic PI breaks up an evening..... no harm done?

  • gulag
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Quit fretting. The show's gone from 900,000 viewers the first week to 400,000 after only five episodes.

    I heard this week is the last episode and it's cancelled after that.

  • Thomas
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    People, people, people - relax! It's TV. I was afraid it being the CBC it would end up being an awfully hind-end-retentive and that it would star Mary Walsh on an ongoing basis (does she have incriminating evidence on some of the top CBC brass or a lifetime contract or something? Geez...). I was happy to discover that it does not take itself too seriously, is a bit of mindless fun and had Walsh for only one episode (Only one episode, now that's it, right? RIGHT?)

    And Heather, not to worry - cougars are all the rage these days haven't you heard? Oops. Better not say cougar. Might offend someone... lol

    See? I'm a Jake Doyle of the world!

  • Walter J
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    Though I disagree with Mr. Jackson, Nathan Drake is off his rocker.

  • IWantTOLIkeThisShow
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    I had high hopes for this show. I really wanted to like it. It is trying too hard and is in no way, shape or form even close to the Rockford files or Magnum PI. Find one show of the either of these series where the opening shot is of them having sex with a client?

    There is nothing wrong with sex but there is a problem with gratuitous sex.

    One other problem is the poor story lines.

    The biggest problem is that I just can not like the main character. He is not a rogue or a ladies man but a (ok put in a word here that rhymes with glut).

    Which is too bad as I like most of the other characters in the show. The father and his wife and Tiny and the Constable are great!

    I have really enjoyed the guest stars.

    I would love to see rating for the number of people from outside of Newfoundland that started to watch and have stopped after a show or two.

    Which is a shame as I love the views of the city as the camera work is excellent.

    I am hoping that the creator gets a lot less self indulgent and that the show improves and gets a second season after it has worked out the kinks!(double entendre intended)

  • Red
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    I think this is a fun show! By the way, skankiness is not limited to NL. ha~
    I'm a Newfoundland woman, and I can tell you there are plenty of offensive things to get all up in arms about in this world, but the characters on a tv series? Nah~
    Jake is a charmer. Haven't you ever met a Jake before? I don't think Republic of Doyle is going to give Newfoundlanders a bad reputation. What odds! The show will be great for tourism, fog or no fog!

  • Mandy
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Why does everyone have a problem with the sexual content? Maybe you people should open your eyes.
    We are all having sex.
    Part of the hilarity of the show is that women throw themselves at him. Its part of his character and it's endearing.
    The show is written well, and it's clever. And how does sexual content in a show make a society vulgar?
    Do you watch any tv? there is sex in EVERY show. We like sex. We want to see. We want to talk about it. And we want to do it.
    And really, we want to do it with people who look like allan hawco, and act like doyle.

  • Polly
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    BRAVO PETER----------- There is no substitute for good taste .It was suggested that R of D was loosely based on The Rockford Files ------ I was a great fan of RF and an even greater fan of detective novels .RF was notable for the quality of its writing .James or Jimmy to his friends prefered to talk ---- not resorting to violence . James' love life with Beth was more hinted at , unlike the explicit sex scenes of R of D. Sex is a poor substitute for quality writing today .Why leave a viewer thinking through a plot when you can so easily give them cheap thrills.

  • Corey
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    Yeah, they could do without some of the nude scenes and that, I agree with that part. But I do enjoy the show, seems like it's getting better each week. Doesn't hurt for the province to gain some national exposure across the country either. So WHAT about the accents, it's what makes us unique I guess. BTW, they HAVE picked up the show for a 2nd season I hear. That must disappoint a few of you here I guess. Too bad LOL. Keep it up Republic Of Doyle!

  • Anna
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Peter if you don't want to see people locking lips go watch Land and Sea. I find the show very entertaining and I am delighted that there are no Newfie jokes or interviews with the village idiot.

  • Amanda
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    I totally agree with Peter here.

    I tried to give this show a chance, and 30 minutes into the first episode, I knew it was pitiful. Yeah, the scenery is lovely, but that's not enough to keep a plot interesting.

    What really bugs me is the Newfoundland music blaring during car chases, fights, and between scenes...just STOP it!!! Also, the exaggerated accents are so annoying. I live in St. John's, and the majority of people do not talk like that!

    And the inclusion of sex in the show is nauseating. As if Allan Hawco is George Clooney. This is definitely NOT a family show. The viewers are dwindling each week. In the end, just NL will be watching, and sadly, that's just not enough viewers. I will be surprised if it lasts one season.

  • Jim
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    I disagree Peter. I am from Central and I love the show. For the first time ever, NL has a quality drama to which I could compare the writing quaility to that of NCIS. I am proud of this show. Keep it up!!

  • ben
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    i had watched republic of doyle as i had heard it was a true NL made show. how disappointing i agree its done in terrible taste it makes the women on there look like wEEEEEEEEE's it has turned me off completely and i am very proud of being from NL but i can't stand to watch that show. i beleive its part of what makes our society vulgar.

  • Here we
    July 01, 2010 - 20:14

    The Telegram is worse then Open Line - highlighting what most Newfoundlanders do best... complain.

    I imagine if Peter Jackson had his way we'd be watching Star Trek, with Newfie accents.

  • Tim
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    This column raises some very legitmate points, and is much more pertinent to some of the social challenges we face than what is caused by 'religious nuts' or 'fat people'.

    Nathan Drake's 'comment' is simply an hour or so wasted putting together a rant which few will take seriously.

    Signed,

    A Stereotypical Religious Nut (apparently)

  • Heather
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    The only things that bother me about the sexual content of Doyle are: (a) I'm not the one having sex and (b) as a post menopausal woman (not by much!) the Jake Doyle's of this world are no longer interested in having sex with me!

  • being
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    To Start, i havwe to say, i enjoy the show, but two weeks ago i let the kids watch the show because a scene eas filmed in our area. the story began with a very vivid portrail of Jake having vigorous sex with the wife of a man he was hired to see if she was cheating on him. this was too graphic especially for kids, and before you say i'm a prude, if i want to watch this type of stuff i'll rent a porn. sex doesn't have to be into every tv show to make it good. thats put in because the writers know that their writing content is not enough to keep people hooked, plain and simple.

  • Liz
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    Nathan Drake - are you 12 years old, developmentally delayed or just deliberately obtuse?

    All sexual representation is not the same. Some is smart and sexy, some is dumb and insulting, particularly to women. Some sexual representation tells us that women are here for sex and sex only and are not actual real human beings. A lot of TV sexism indicates that the writers think that the audience is entirely made up of adolescent males.

    The fact that many women now claim to enjoy degrading and insulting scenarios does not alter the fact of the insult and degradation.

    Your comment anyone who has a problem with this is too uptight or too unattractive to get laid is ugly and bigoted. I feel very sorry for any and all of the people in your life, especially the women, if this is how you see and value other human beings.

  • Liz
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    Thanks Peter Jackson for calling this what it is - SEXIST and risking the inevitable name-calling that comes with pointing to insulting content like ROD.

    Folks, its NOT the sex, it's the fact that the women are all there FOR sex/decoration first and foremost, and that despite the fact that soe of the female characters are apparently competent enough to hold significant jobs - a doctor, a cop, they are all pathetically desperate to jump the sexless man-child, Jake.

    I gave up after episode 1. Too pathetic.

    Want on-screen sex without the sexism? Try Tell Me You Love Me or Hung.

    Calling Mr. Jackson a prude is ignorant and reactionary.

  • William
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    I enjoyed the first few shows but it is getting a little tired. Too much of the same thing now. Last week I lost interest half way through the show. The Jake character is just overdone, the father is quite good, the lawyer is superb, the cop detective isn't strong enough. It is great to see some our great comedians get work but give the comedy a break. It isn't that funny.
    Sexist? Maybe, but for me the show is becoming too predictable.

  • villergirl
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    LAme LamE lAME..

    R of D is a great show.. not just for a newfoundland show. Its all around good, fun.. likable charaters.. whats the matter with you people!!!! Newfoundland Jealously i suppose!!!

    Jake it hot. The Constable is Hot. .Heck.. Even Jake's step mom is Hot.!! and you expect the show to be NOT sexual? Go watch Road to Avonlea.

    The show is set in St. John's. If they are going to bring up every community on the island its going to get pretty tricky. Get a life. when there is a show about your community you'll hear it then!

  • Angelica
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    I am a little concerned about the sexual content, but what's good about Doyle has me hooked - Go Jake!!

  • Neal
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    Aren't PI shows like this supposed to have a certain amount of sex appeal to them? Did Thomas Magnum ever hook up on the island of Hawaii? Or would you have his character be more like Higgins ( a prude)? Peter for your sake I'm pretty sure De Ja View shows re-runs of Murder She Wrote on Wednesday nights so you can tune in there if Doyle is too much for you.

  • Sounding
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Agree on the point of the nauseating make-out scenes like we need to see them. Thought we were way past those ego chest pounding ape foolishness. I will say the show is well shot and produced but the editor could have pushed that fade scene button a bit sooner on some scene endings.

  • Sonya
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    I totally agree with Peter here.

    I tried to give this show a chance, and 30 minutes into the first episode, I knew it was pitiful. Yeah, the scenery is lovely, but that's not enough to keep a plot interesting.

    What really bugs me is the Newfoundland music blaring during car chases, fights, and between scenes...just STOP it!!! Also, the exaggerated accents are so annoying. I live in St. John's, and the majority of people do not talk like that!

    And the inclusion of sex in the show is nauseating. As if Allan Hawco is George Clooney. This is definitely NOT a family show. The viewers are dwindling each week. In the end, just NL will be watching, and sadly, that's just not enough viewers. I will be surprised if it lasts one season.

  • theshore
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    I like to call the show Republic of Romeo . The show is cheesy...and I laugh at the fact that Allan Hawco is a producer and that the character he has created for himself is such a ladie's man...how convenient (and annoying).

  • GAR
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    Hey, Here We Go From NL, right on. Betcha Peter Jackson can do that Vulcan thing that Spock does with his fingers. and keeps his Penthouse magazines under his mattress so mommy won't see. Probably spends too much time locked in the bathroom too.lol.

  • Leslie
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    Republic of Doyle is sexist, absolutely--but I'm afraid Mr. Jackson's reasons for saying so are as stuck-in-the-20th century as the show. In this millennium, Canadian women actually can indiscriminately have sex with whomever; that Jake seems to meet an awful lot of mentally unstable sex addicts could just be a case of birds of a feather. However, I can't believe there hasn't been an outcry over the implicit sexism of this: when Jake refuses to sleep with his missus, she belts him one in the chops. Reverse the genders on that, and see how quirky and comical it feels.

  • briny69
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    nail on the head there nathan drake

  • Doyle Fan
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    I say Rock On Jake Doyle!! The show is pure entertainment with this awesome city as the backdrop instead of being set in New York or Los Angelos like 80% of all the other shows on television.

    Hope to see you for season two ROD!

  • Sharon
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    I am not offended by the sexual content in the show, every channel you turn on there is something to do with sex, even some kids movies and cartoons have sexual innuendos that may go over the kids heads.. but it is still there. What I don't like about it is the over the top exaggerated Newfie-ness of the show. I don't know about the rest of you.. but I don't know when the last time I told someone they were on glue .. and I might be guilty of saying 'shag it' every now and then.. but it isn't part of my daily vocab, just because the show is in NL doesn't mean they have to fill it with silly sayings that people everywhere else will love to laugh at.. because they will be laughing AT us.. not WITH us. Maybe the characters should be able to talk with their own voice.. instead of trying to fake it and sounding really bad. It isn't even the accent which makes the people seem like they are backwards.. it is using phrases that make no sense and make people sound stupid. You can have a smart and witty show, while using proper english. I think we are just feeding into the mainland sterotype of NL. I am sick of people thinking that Newfies are stupid and you can't understand anything we say... and I think the show feeds into that. The sexual content is probably the only thing that makes the people in the show seem normal!

  • Cathy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    I agree, Yes, Peter you are a prude. Again, rather than positive feedback, the negativity remains steadfast. It's an hour of entertainment, shot here in Newfoundland with home grown actors. It's not the throne speech. Relax you pundants, relax....or blow it out your ear

  • don
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    The Republic of Doyle is just as stupid as that show Mary Walsh starred in about the family that owned the Funeral home and Ambulance service around the bay. We don't need any more stereotyping of Newfoundlanders on television or anywhere else. The Republic of Doyle is not even a lame attempt to spoof Magnum PI, a show which was based on another much warmer and more scenic Island. The Network should cancel the show as soon as possible before we become the butt of more Newfie jokes! I know some folks will lose their jobs, but television performance should be based on the talent of the actors and the and quality of the production and not on whether the show qualifies for tourism based Government grants!

  • Nathan
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    The people who dislike sex appeal in pop culture fit into one of the 4 following categories.

    1.) Devoutly Religious People (ie. Crazies). Those who legitimately believe that if they don't have sex in the proper, religious way (Missionary, behind closed doors, In the dark, one and a half minutes in length and never to be discussed), then some giant, angry, bearded white dude will come and tear this planet apart.

    2.) Intimately Awkward People. Those who lack the personality and social skills to lure a woman or man into bed, no matter how good looking they may be. These people learn early on that they are terrible at being intimate, and therefore protest that sex should not be a part of anyones lives if it can't be a part of theirs.

    3.) Overweight and/or Ugly People. This one is pretty self explanatory. These people mope about through life upon realizing that they are unable to find someone who sexually desires them. Rather than doing something productive to change their bad situation (ie. going to the gym, better diet, ect), they usually end up making things worst by becoming depressed and more often than not, becoming even more undesirable and developing an Intimately Awkward personality.

    4.) Feminists and SOME (not all) Menopausal Women. Sorry girls, but this one is exclusive to women. These women feel that it is wrong to depict females as using their sex appeal to get what they want, although this is undeniably commonplace in todays society. They also usually fall into categories 2 and 3, but not always.


    Now, lets just all be thankful that pretty much everyone else loves sex. This is why it is so common in North American Popular Culture. My apologies to all the religious nuts, awkward people, fatties, uglies and feminists. The government may appeal to minorities, but media does not.

  • Graham
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    It's interesting that everyone mentions the beautiful photography. Yes, that's its best, if not only positive, element. I wanted to enjoy this, but the cliché story lines, the bad writing, and the cliché, one-tensional characters -- none of whom are even likeable, make this uninteresting. Would we be so passionate if this series was set in Oshawa?

  • Christine
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Good Gracious people, it's television!!! If you don't like it, turn it off. Republic of Doyle is a comedic drama. Much of comedy comes from exaggeration. The drama - the whodunnit aspect of the show. I think its FANTASTIC that the show is shot in St John's, such a beautiful city. Peter by' lighten up!

  • Kewe
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    Finally, a kinded spirit! I too had high hopes for Doyle but have been left with disappointment and a little disdain for our new show. As a half-townie myself, I feel little in common with the characters and any premise in the show, including the accents and colourful shots of our beautiful city. Yes, she glows when the sun shines, but I wonder how production can continue if they continue to shoot only on sunny days! To capture the real essence of the city, a foggy day is in order! And sorry, but in episode 3 ( I t'inks) when the gentleman from The Pearl (the swanky end of Mt. Pearl that is) comes out to Jake and Malachy and calls them 'by's well, that just wouldn't happen. Correct me if I'm wrong Pearligans.
    One last remark from me... it was just two weeks ago on an afternoon call in show on CBC Mr. Hawco was crowing on the family aspect of the show, how clean it was, how proud he was they didn't have to use sex in the show to make it popular, how he wanted to produce a show he could watch with his grandmother and young niece/nephew in the same room with him. Well Allan, I'm glad my 11 year old was in bed during last weeks episode. So much for my new Must See CBC night (I'll continue to tune in to Jeopardy, Dragon's Den, and The Hour) Awww, shag it, I'll continue to tune in to Doyle as I do want to support our local industry. Now I ll just watch the show to see how many times I can laugh and shake my head at the ridiculousness of it. It does make for a good drinking game to drink whenever they say shag in one episode! Good luck, I'll tune it and hope you can make it one million viewers by's.

  • Joanne
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    Regarding Nathan Drakes comment about overweight people.I am an overweight person and I despise this comment.Obvious he isn't so how can he comment on other people's feelings.I am a happy person and have been loved by my family and friends for 55 yrs.What have this got to do with R of D? Nathan Drake is obviously a pig and was dragged through life by very uncaring parents who taught him nothing

  • Walter J
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    The show is set in St. John's. It might alienate rural Newfoundlanders as a result? I suppose Beachcombers should have been shot in every nook and cranny of Canada so as to not alienate anybody. As for the show being sexist, I'm at a loss. The women are far from indiscriminate - Jake is perpetually shut down; I suppose he should be celibate entirely. It's possible for the show to depict Jake as a woman-chaser without approving of it. I don't watch Republic of Doyle to learn my manners; Jake doesn't need to be a faultless hero.

  • Ima
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    In the late 60's and early 70's they use to make spaghetti westerns , I see now that it has degraded to cheesy detective shows.

  • I. P. Freely
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Yes Peter, you are a prude...

  • (Another) Pete
    July 01, 2010 - 19:47

    As an NL Baby Boomer, I find it so entertaining that Television has become so serious, worse, taken so seriously.

    You are correct, the implied topics and attitudes are important and their portrayal deserving of criticism at times. But superficial, exaggerated theatre does have it's place.... non?

    What annoys me, is when the attempt at drama extends to youth. Teen/Post Teen soaps drain the life out the viewers - the characters live the lives of middle aged losers.

    When I was thirty something I used to watch THAT show. I did't know if I would make it to forty something with any happiness of living. The Seinfeld characters - show about nothing - saved my zest for TV serials. [although the stand up disasterous incident with the Kramer Actor broke my heart - no lie].

    I don't know Peter, sitting in front of HD, while Actors portray the emotionally graphic or literally graphic lives of human beings imploding doesn't qualify as entertaintment to me, acting or no acting.

    Foolishness with a GTO in the background, a hot chick cop, a love sick doctor and a neurotic PI breaks up an evening..... no harm done?

  • gulag
    July 01, 2010 - 19:47

    Quit fretting. The show's gone from 900,000 viewers the first week to 400,000 after only five episodes.

    I heard this week is the last episode and it's cancelled after that.

  • Thomas
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    People, people, people - relax! It's TV. I was afraid it being the CBC it would end up being an awfully hind-end-retentive and that it would star Mary Walsh on an ongoing basis (does she have incriminating evidence on some of the top CBC brass or a lifetime contract or something? Geez...). I was happy to discover that it does not take itself too seriously, is a bit of mindless fun and had Walsh for only one episode (Only one episode, now that's it, right? RIGHT?)

    And Heather, not to worry - cougars are all the rage these days haven't you heard? Oops. Better not say cougar. Might offend someone... lol

    See? I'm a Jake Doyle of the world!