Sex versus seals

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Not having watched "Saturday Night Live" since the 1970s, I don't know whether it's true, as someone once told me, that when Pamela Anderson hosted the show, she stripped down to her bare essentials, to the mixed delight and disgust of the audience.

Say what you want about the world's most famous sexpot anti-sealer, she sure knows how to get in the news.

Not having watched "Saturday Night Live" since the 1970s, I don't know whether it's true, as someone once told me, that when Pamela Anderson hosted the show, she stripped down to her bare essentials, to the mixed delight and disgust of the audience.

Say what you want about the world's most famous sexpot anti-sealer, she sure knows how to get in the news.

Anderson made the newswires hum again last week.

She has filed Access to Information requests to find out how much money the federal government spends to support the seal hunt.

Opponents of Anderson's ongoing anti-sealing campaign might chortle and recite that reliable cliché about naked people living in glass houses not throwing stones - after all, she's in the acting and TV business, of sorts, an industry that over the years has received millions of public dollars.

Anderson and her favourite group, the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), are master newsmakers. They know how to make headlines and news clips.

Exploitation

And PETA's favourite tool is naked young women.

You've probably seen the images of PETA protests: nude young women wrapped in cellophane; a trio of half-naked Russian beauties baring their "blood"-drenched chests on a Moscow street; a half-naked woman lying on a Canadian flag, "blood" dripping from her body and from the Maple Leaf; scantily clad women crouching in a cage; topless women holding signs that read, "I'd rather go naked than wear fur."

OK then. Go naked.

It's a free world, mostly.

The people at PETA - not to be confused with PeTA, the People for T and A - sure know how to create an eye-catching image. That's why so many media - print and electronic - cover their events. Cynics might say the media is being manipulated. Others might say the media is getting free, easy content that is guaranteed to catch the interest of readers/viewers.

After all, who can ignore images of beautiful, barely clad young women? They sell cars. They sell beer. They sell anti-sealing slogans.

Whistle stop

Some months ago, two pretty PETA protesters were doing their thing in Calgary.

The pictures that circulated on the newswire added a new dimension to their efforts. Two construction workers, not surprisingly, took an interest in their activities. Apparently not satisfied with being mere stereotypes by whistling and hooting, "Hey, baby," the construction workers decided to get in on the photo-op.

While one worker took a picture, the other - still wearing his hard hat - draped a huge arm around the shoulder of one of the attractive young PETA protesters, who had on white panties and stockings and nothing else.

Looking at a photo like that, you have to wonder whether all the feminists really have broken through the glass ceiling in the boardroom, and no longer notice anything that goes on down on the street. Maybe the women's studies students and professors never leave campus, or follow the news. Their silence is puzzling.

A generation ago, there probably would have been shrill howls of outrage at such chauvinistic campaigns.

Perhaps in this era of postfeminism and neo-feminism, women really have attained equality with men, so using sex to sell is no longer an issue.

Or, more likely, the sexist PETA events aren't the target of criticism because they are promoting a greater good.

So what if they exploit young women, if they can use their bodies - willingly, obviously - to save seals, bunnies, chickens, cows, etc.

PETA is great with images, but less skilled with facts. Here's a fact for them: PETA members might tout vegetarianism, but they treat women like meat.

Brian Jones is a desk editor at The Telegram. He can be reached by e-mail at bjones@thetelegram.com.

Organizations: PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, The Telegram

Geographic location: Moscow, Maple Leaf, Calgary

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  • Tony
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Are their coats white??? No, of course not, but why do every animal rights group post pictures of fluffy WHITE coated seals?? To suck people like you, into donating to their cause . Weak minded sheep, who do not educate themselves, before getting the facts. Whitecoats are not being killed, period, end of discussion!!When you get your next e-mail from PETA with the cute snow white seal pup, as an attachment, open your wallet wide. PETA certainly appreciates it!! GOOD NIGHT!!!

  • mom
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    darryl from quebec - we don't skin baby seals alive for fur coats, but you are right about the violence against women here. It is a major problem which is not helped by the exploitation of women.

    Polly Pickford from NL - To say - Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making - is not exactly true. Their standards, or lack thereof, are formed by media influence and the permissiveness of parents who let children do as they please. Young people often make decisions that they regret later.

    B from NL - Your remarks are typical of many men that think that everything is the womans fault. I hope I never have to see you in a beer commercial or anywhere else for that matter.

  • mom
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    darryl from quebec - we don't skin baby seals alive for fur coats, but you are right about the violence against women here. It is a major problem which is not helped by the exploitation of women.

    Polly Pickford from NL - To say - Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making - is not exactly true. Their standards, or lack thereof, are formed by media influence and the permissiveness of parents who let children do as they please. Young people often make decisions that they regret later.

    B from NL - Your remarks are typical of many men that think that everything is the womans fault. I hope I never have to see you in a beer commercial or anywhere else for that matter.

  • Darryl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Oh like seal hunters give a crap about woman's rights.

    How about the incident a few months ago where a lone young woman protesting the seal hunt in St John's was thrown to the ground had her costume ripped off and a pie thrown in her face by a big fat neanderthal looking man?

    Woman should be able to do whatever they like with their bodies!

    I seen a female being pelted and the pup came out of her when they cut her open, the pup was dead. This seal was killed for a while. This was on the day we got one hundred and seventy. Someone passed the comment, 'If Green peace were only here to see this.'
    - Sealer's statement, taken by Fergus Foley, Department of Fisheries and Oceans

  • Polly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Here is another fact Mr. Jones , PETA is only one on a long list of groups that exploit women . Pubs and bars with their wet tee shirt contests , gentleman's clubs--- that is a misnomer--- , the many , many magazines like Hustler . Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making . You , Mr. Jones with your outmoded sense of morality , may be projecting your bias .

  • darryl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Actually they are being skinned alive, you can read it here the report link is at the end. It's funny that the sealers complain about us lying when we have facts about all the statements we make concerning the cruel slaughter. Their reasons to support the hunt change from year to year and are full of misinformation and government propaganda, such as they are eating all the cod which the dfo falsely claimed year after year and have now retracted although we still hear it from the sealers with absolutely no scientific facts supporting it.

    In 2001, a report by an independent team of veterinarians who studied the hunt concluded that governmental regulations regarding humane killing were neither being respected nor enforced, and that the seal hunt failed to comply with Canada's basic animal welfare standards. Shockingly, the veterinarians found that in 42 percent of the cases they studied, the seals had likely been skinned alive while conscious.
    Parliamentarians, journalists, and scientists who observe Canada's commercial seal hunt each year continue to report unacceptable levels of cruelty, including sealers dragging conscious seals across the ice floes with boat hooks, shooting seals and leaving them to suffer in agony, stockpiling dead and dying animals, and even skinning seals alive.

    http://www.scandinavianantisealingcoalition.org/Reports/Vet%20report%20march%202001.pdf

  • mom
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    darryl from quebec - we don't skin baby seals alive for fur coats, but you are right about the violence against women here. It is a major problem which is not helped by the exploitation of women.

    Polly Pickford from NL - To say - Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making - is not exactly true. Their standards, or lack thereof, are formed by media influence and the permissiveness of parents who let children do as they please. Young people often make decisions that they regret later.

    B from NL - Your remarks are typical of many men that think that everything is the womans fault. I hope I never have to see you in a beer commercial or anywhere else for that matter.

  • Polly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    I only said it once B from NL ----- someone at the telegram isn't doing their work . Mr. Jone's morality may appear to be outmoded, but, your attitude is downright dangerous .

  • mom
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Well said, Brian. I think it is a shame that women are being exploited so much in todays society. Are those who fought so hard for equal rights in the past afraid to speak out today?

  • Darryl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Now here Tony- a few men stripping for the cause and there are many many others if you would like to search for more.

    http://www.peta.org/feat/jennaethan/

    http://www.furisdead.com/feat_ami_james_anti-fur_ad.asp

    http://www.furisdead.com/buttons/DennisRodmanAd.jpg

    http://www.peta2.com/outthere/o-simpleplan.asp

    http://dev.furisdead.com/pics/BossModels72.jpg

    http://www.peta.org/feat/frankapotente/

    http://www.furisdead.com/feat-tommylee.asp

  • TONY
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    So in 2001, 42% of seals were skinned alive!! Oh Myyy . I see in this post you have dropped the word baby , another name for whitecoat, because no one has been allowed to hunt them for at least the past 25 yrs. That's a start Gerry!! Or maybe Im wrong, and you and PETA still think the white fluffy baby seals are being skinned alive!!!The seal hunt will continue, dispite the protests of the uneducated,self serving,money hungry,animal rights groups!!! You Sir, are one of many - PAWNS!! And of course I forgot to mention, those poor endangered animals number over 8 million and only survive because of the rich grass that grows on the ocean's bottom. Direct your energy to the starving children in the world , who would absolutely love ,a meal of protein enriched seal meat!!!

  • darryl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    98% of seals killed are under 3 months of age, and these seals can live to be over 35 years old. Most have not yet had their first solid meal or taken their first swimand they literally have no escape from the hunters.
    These are DFO stats, sorry 12 to 90 day old seals who havent had a solid meal and can not yet swim are babies!

  • TONY
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Hey Mom, Brian was commenting on how PETA are short on facts and how they use women sexually to get their misguided points across.You don't see PETA doing protests with men, half dressed,with blood all over their bodies. Valid points and true points!! I happen to love seal meat but Im not to fussy on French forced fed geese. Maybe Gerry is fond of it but Im sure not. Gerry's perfect stats - 1 of 2 women from NL will be subject to sexual or violent abuse is just as laughable as the comment about skinning baby seals ALIVE for their furs. Educate yourself Gerry about facts on violence against women in general and also about skinning baby seals alive. As for your comment on inflicting violence on humans - bring it up at your next PETA meeting, inside your thick glass house.

  • jean
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    The only reason SOME groups still show white coats is because it is illegal to film the slaughter unless you get a permit. The government doesn't want people to know what is going on out there because they know how barbaric it is - Sea Shepherd only has photos of the white coats because they were banished from getting too close! Second of all...most of groups are using grey seals in their photos now - yes grey baby seals- and some you cant tell the colour because its just their bloody carcas that had been left on the ice to rot - with the fur on the boat on its way to a warehouse to be stored with the pelts from last year and year before because no one wants to buy them. THIRDLY the colour of the fur does not make a difference to how much pain and suffering is endured by these innocent animals. I'm pretty sure a 12 day old seal and a 14 day old seal feel the most terrible pain when they have a hook stabbed through their jaw and are dragged across the ice while still conscious.

  • darryl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    I really hope this article helps NFLD get a grip on some serious provincial problems. Of course if you think skining baby seals alive for fur coats is acceptable it may make it a bit easier to inflict violence on humans too!!

    Of the 217,900 women over the age of 15 residing in Newfoundland and Labrador, approximately 108,950 (1 in 2) will experience at least one incident of sexual or physical violence throughout their lifetime.
    Between 1999 and 2004, the overall rate of spousal violence against women in Canada declined (a 1% decrease). Newfoundland and Labrador was the only jurisdiction during this five year period to show an increase in spousal violence against women (a 2% increase).

  • B
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Well you don't see me in any beer commercials, or scantily clad men rubbing a beer on their necks do you? Women are their own worst enemy, they are the ones degrading themselves for money, not us. If you kept your clothes on Polly, there would be nothing to talk about. Your attitude is downright outdated.

  • Darryl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Now here Tony- a few men stripping for the cause and there are many many others if you would like to search for more.

    http://www.peta.org/feat/jennaethan/

    http://www.furisdead.com/feat_ami_james_anti-fur_ad.asp

    http://www.furisdead.com/buttons/DennisRodmanAd.jpg

    http://www.peta2.com/outthere/o-simpleplan.asp

    http://dev.furisdead.com/pics/BossModels72.jpg

    http://www.peta.org/feat/frankapotente/

    http://www.furisdead.com/feat-tommylee.asp

  • B
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Gee Polly why don't you say it again, I didn't hear ya the first 3. Women are their own worst enemies when it comes to protecting their rights. Clubs and bars only offer up money for the women to do degrading acts, the women are the guilty ones who offer their bodies up for exploitation for money, in turn giving themselves and women a bad name. If women kept their clothes on, there would be no gentlemen's clubs, or wettshirt contests, or dirty magazines. It is the women who are a fault, we just watch the show.

  • mom
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    darryl from quebec - we don't skin baby seals alive for fur coats, but you are right about the violence against women here. It is a major problem which is not helped by the exploitation of women.

    Polly Pickford from NL - To say - Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making - is not exactly true. Their standards, or lack thereof, are formed by media influence and the permissiveness of parents who let children do as they please. Young people often make decisions that they regret later.

    B from NL - Your remarks are typical of many men that think that everything is the womans fault. I hope I never have to see you in a beer commercial or anywhere else for that matter.

  • Polly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Here is another fact Mr. Jones , PETA is only one on a long list of groups that exploit women . Pubs and bars with their wet tee shirt contests , gentleman's clubs--- that is a misnomer--- , the many , many magazines like Hustler . Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making . You , Mr. Jones with your outmoded sense of morality , may be projecting your bias .

  • Polly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Here is another fact Mr. Jones , PETA is only one on a long list of groups that exploit women . Pubs and bars with their wet tee shirt contests , gentleman's clubs--- that is a misnomer--- , the many , many magazines like Hustler . Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making . You , Mr. Jones with your outmoded sense of morality , may be projecting your bias .

  • Tony
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Are their coats white??? No, of course not, but why do every animal rights group post pictures of fluffy WHITE coated seals?? To suck people like you, into donating to their cause . Weak minded sheep, who do not educate themselves, before getting the facts. Whitecoats are not being killed, period, end of discussion!!When you get your next e-mail from PETA with the cute snow white seal pup, as an attachment, open your wallet wide. PETA certainly appreciates it!! GOOD NIGHT!!!

  • Tony
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Are their coats white??? No, of course not, but why do every animal rights group post pictures of fluffy WHITE coated seals?? To suck people like you, into donating to their cause . Weak minded sheep, who do not educate themselves, before getting the facts. Whitecoats are not being killed, period, end of discussion!!When you get your next e-mail from PETA with the cute snow white seal pup, as an attachment, open your wallet wide. PETA certainly appreciates it!! GOOD NIGHT!!!

  • mom
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    darryl from quebec - we don't skin baby seals alive for fur coats, but you are right about the violence against women here. It is a major problem which is not helped by the exploitation of women.

    Polly Pickford from NL - To say - Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making - is not exactly true. Their standards, or lack thereof, are formed by media influence and the permissiveness of parents who let children do as they please. Young people often make decisions that they regret later.

    B from NL - Your remarks are typical of many men that think that everything is the womans fault. I hope I never have to see you in a beer commercial or anywhere else for that matter.

  • mom
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    darryl from quebec - we don't skin baby seals alive for fur coats, but you are right about the violence against women here. It is a major problem which is not helped by the exploitation of women.

    Polly Pickford from NL - To say - Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making - is not exactly true. Their standards, or lack thereof, are formed by media influence and the permissiveness of parents who let children do as they please. Young people often make decisions that they regret later.

    B from NL - Your remarks are typical of many men that think that everything is the womans fault. I hope I never have to see you in a beer commercial or anywhere else for that matter.

  • Darryl
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    Oh like seal hunters give a crap about woman's rights.

    How about the incident a few months ago where a lone young woman protesting the seal hunt in St John's was thrown to the ground had her costume ripped off and a pie thrown in her face by a big fat neanderthal looking man?

    Woman should be able to do whatever they like with their bodies!

    I seen a female being pelted and the pup came out of her when they cut her open, the pup was dead. This seal was killed for a while. This was on the day we got one hundred and seventy. Someone passed the comment, 'If Green peace were only here to see this.'
    - Sealer's statement, taken by Fergus Foley, Department of Fisheries and Oceans

  • Polly
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    Here is another fact Mr. Jones , PETA is only one on a long list of groups that exploit women . Pubs and bars with their wet tee shirt contests , gentleman's clubs--- that is a misnomer--- , the many , many magazines like Hustler . Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making . You , Mr. Jones with your outmoded sense of morality , may be projecting your bias .

  • darryl
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    Actually they are being skinned alive, you can read it here the report link is at the end. It's funny that the sealers complain about us lying when we have facts about all the statements we make concerning the cruel slaughter. Their reasons to support the hunt change from year to year and are full of misinformation and government propaganda, such as they are eating all the cod which the dfo falsely claimed year after year and have now retracted although we still hear it from the sealers with absolutely no scientific facts supporting it.

    In 2001, a report by an independent team of veterinarians who studied the hunt concluded that governmental regulations regarding humane killing were neither being respected nor enforced, and that the seal hunt failed to comply with Canada's basic animal welfare standards. Shockingly, the veterinarians found that in 42 percent of the cases they studied, the seals had likely been skinned alive while conscious.
    Parliamentarians, journalists, and scientists who observe Canada's commercial seal hunt each year continue to report unacceptable levels of cruelty, including sealers dragging conscious seals across the ice floes with boat hooks, shooting seals and leaving them to suffer in agony, stockpiling dead and dying animals, and even skinning seals alive.

    http://www.scandinavianantisealingcoalition.org/Reports/Vet%20report%20march%202001.pdf

  • mom
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    darryl from quebec - we don't skin baby seals alive for fur coats, but you are right about the violence against women here. It is a major problem which is not helped by the exploitation of women.

    Polly Pickford from NL - To say - Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making - is not exactly true. Their standards, or lack thereof, are formed by media influence and the permissiveness of parents who let children do as they please. Young people often make decisions that they regret later.

    B from NL - Your remarks are typical of many men that think that everything is the womans fault. I hope I never have to see you in a beer commercial or anywhere else for that matter.

  • Polly
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    I only said it once B from NL ----- someone at the telegram isn't doing their work . Mr. Jone's morality may appear to be outmoded, but, your attitude is downright dangerous .

  • mom
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    Well said, Brian. I think it is a shame that women are being exploited so much in todays society. Are those who fought so hard for equal rights in the past afraid to speak out today?

  • Darryl
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    Now here Tony- a few men stripping for the cause and there are many many others if you would like to search for more.

    http://www.peta.org/feat/jennaethan/

    http://www.furisdead.com/feat_ami_james_anti-fur_ad.asp

    http://www.furisdead.com/buttons/DennisRodmanAd.jpg

    http://www.peta2.com/outthere/o-simpleplan.asp

    http://dev.furisdead.com/pics/BossModels72.jpg

    http://www.peta.org/feat/frankapotente/

    http://www.furisdead.com/feat-tommylee.asp

  • TONY
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    So in 2001, 42% of seals were skinned alive!! Oh Myyy . I see in this post you have dropped the word baby , another name for whitecoat, because no one has been allowed to hunt them for at least the past 25 yrs. That's a start Gerry!! Or maybe Im wrong, and you and PETA still think the white fluffy baby seals are being skinned alive!!!The seal hunt will continue, dispite the protests of the uneducated,self serving,money hungry,animal rights groups!!! You Sir, are one of many - PAWNS!! And of course I forgot to mention, those poor endangered animals number over 8 million and only survive because of the rich grass that grows on the ocean's bottom. Direct your energy to the starving children in the world , who would absolutely love ,a meal of protein enriched seal meat!!!

  • darryl
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    98% of seals killed are under 3 months of age, and these seals can live to be over 35 years old. Most have not yet had their first solid meal or taken their first swimand they literally have no escape from the hunters.
    These are DFO stats, sorry 12 to 90 day old seals who havent had a solid meal and can not yet swim are babies!

  • TONY
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Hey Mom, Brian was commenting on how PETA are short on facts and how they use women sexually to get their misguided points across.You don't see PETA doing protests with men, half dressed,with blood all over their bodies. Valid points and true points!! I happen to love seal meat but Im not to fussy on French forced fed geese. Maybe Gerry is fond of it but Im sure not. Gerry's perfect stats - 1 of 2 women from NL will be subject to sexual or violent abuse is just as laughable as the comment about skinning baby seals ALIVE for their furs. Educate yourself Gerry about facts on violence against women in general and also about skinning baby seals alive. As for your comment on inflicting violence on humans - bring it up at your next PETA meeting, inside your thick glass house.

  • jean
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    The only reason SOME groups still show white coats is because it is illegal to film the slaughter unless you get a permit. The government doesn't want people to know what is going on out there because they know how barbaric it is - Sea Shepherd only has photos of the white coats because they were banished from getting too close! Second of all...most of groups are using grey seals in their photos now - yes grey baby seals- and some you cant tell the colour because its just their bloody carcas that had been left on the ice to rot - with the fur on the boat on its way to a warehouse to be stored with the pelts from last year and year before because no one wants to buy them. THIRDLY the colour of the fur does not make a difference to how much pain and suffering is endured by these innocent animals. I'm pretty sure a 12 day old seal and a 14 day old seal feel the most terrible pain when they have a hook stabbed through their jaw and are dragged across the ice while still conscious.

  • darryl
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    I really hope this article helps NFLD get a grip on some serious provincial problems. Of course if you think skining baby seals alive for fur coats is acceptable it may make it a bit easier to inflict violence on humans too!!

    Of the 217,900 women over the age of 15 residing in Newfoundland and Labrador, approximately 108,950 (1 in 2) will experience at least one incident of sexual or physical violence throughout their lifetime.
    Between 1999 and 2004, the overall rate of spousal violence against women in Canada declined (a 1% decrease). Newfoundland and Labrador was the only jurisdiction during this five year period to show an increase in spousal violence against women (a 2% increase).

  • B
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Well you don't see me in any beer commercials, or scantily clad men rubbing a beer on their necks do you? Women are their own worst enemy, they are the ones degrading themselves for money, not us. If you kept your clothes on Polly, there would be nothing to talk about. Your attitude is downright outdated.

  • Darryl
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Now here Tony- a few men stripping for the cause and there are many many others if you would like to search for more.

    http://www.peta.org/feat/jennaethan/

    http://www.furisdead.com/feat_ami_james_anti-fur_ad.asp

    http://www.furisdead.com/buttons/DennisRodmanAd.jpg

    http://www.peta2.com/outthere/o-simpleplan.asp

    http://dev.furisdead.com/pics/BossModels72.jpg

    http://www.peta.org/feat/frankapotente/

    http://www.furisdead.com/feat-tommylee.asp

  • B
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    Gee Polly why don't you say it again, I didn't hear ya the first 3. Women are their own worst enemies when it comes to protecting their rights. Clubs and bars only offer up money for the women to do degrading acts, the women are the guilty ones who offer their bodies up for exploitation for money, in turn giving themselves and women a bad name. If women kept their clothes on, there would be no gentlemen's clubs, or wettshirt contests, or dirty magazines. It is the women who are a fault, we just watch the show.

  • mom
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    darryl from quebec - we don't skin baby seals alive for fur coats, but you are right about the violence against women here. It is a major problem which is not helped by the exploitation of women.

    Polly Pickford from NL - To say - Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making - is not exactly true. Their standards, or lack thereof, are formed by media influence and the permissiveness of parents who let children do as they please. Young people often make decisions that they regret later.

    B from NL - Your remarks are typical of many men that think that everything is the womans fault. I hope I never have to see you in a beer commercial or anywhere else for that matter.

  • Polly
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Here is another fact Mr. Jones , PETA is only one on a long list of groups that exploit women . Pubs and bars with their wet tee shirt contests , gentleman's clubs--- that is a misnomer--- , the many , many magazines like Hustler . Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making . You , Mr. Jones with your outmoded sense of morality , may be projecting your bias .

  • Polly
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    Here is another fact Mr. Jones , PETA is only one on a long list of groups that exploit women . Pubs and bars with their wet tee shirt contests , gentleman's clubs--- that is a misnomer--- , the many , many magazines like Hustler . Young women of today live by a set of standards of their own making . You , Mr. Jones with your outmoded sense of morality , may be projecting your bias .

  • Tony
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    Are their coats white??? No, of course not, but why do every animal rights group post pictures of fluffy WHITE coated seals?? To suck people like you, into donating to their cause . Weak minded sheep, who do not educate themselves, before getting the facts. Whitecoats are not being killed, period, end of discussion!!When you get your next e-mail from PETA with the cute snow white seal pup, as an attachment, open your wallet wide. PETA certainly appreciates it!! GOOD NIGHT!!!