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  • Brian
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    If the Maritime route was a real option, don't you think Danny and Jerome would have aggressively pursued that option instead of wasting millions and millions arguing with Quebec? Face the facts folks, the maritime option is not a viable option....it's just smike and mirrors.

  • S
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Lab12, I understand your sentiments towards the island portion of the province, I honestly do. I agree that too much has been taken out of labrador with only crumbs in return. (Ironically enough, this is the same argument many of the newfoundland nationalists make with regards to their place in Canada). And I would suggest it's not just the politicians who have the Cavalier attitude of just using Newfoundland when referencing the entire province. The average lay person on the street with no understanding that Labradorians have a distinct culture and heritage seperate from that of newfoundland, would have this attitude as well. Even Mr. Wakeham here showed the same line of thinking in his column. This mindset among many people that Labrador is just a piece of Newfoundland's property is a slap in the face to Labradorians, and I just wish people had more understanding of their entire province outside of their bay or cove. Having said that however, your statement that Labrador will have succeeded from amalgamation with the Island to become an independent and self sufficient territory is a pipe dream. You need people in positions of authority from Labrador to take up the cause and wage a public campaign to make this happen. And I really don't see the will being there. While Labradorians may rant in private about their unjust treatment, actually doing something about it is another thing.

  • Lab12
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    It is time those on the Island forget about Labrador and the Churchill Falls of past, present or future. The people of Labrador are fed up with the lack of return and abandonment shown by the Island Government. Before a shovel of dirt has been turned on the lower portion, the people of Labrador will have succeeded from amalgamation with the Island to become an independent and self sufficient territory.

    The Island has taken and taken from us from day one with nothing provided for the revenue generated. We will be far better off once the people vote to become independent and free from the restraints of backwards thinking politicians in St. Johns.

    How many times do we hear those in Confederation Building only referencing Newfoundland, and not Newfoundland and Labrador? The only time they mention us is when it is a benefit to them and the accountants. Enough is enough.

  • Barb
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Ed Hollett, Wakeham used an analogy of a hockey game to get his point across. Obviously, you didn't get it! Very apt analogy, Wakeham.

  • Danny Give It Up
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Time for Williams to give up Lower Churchill fight.

  • Ed
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Great column, Bob.

    Just one small problem: it never happened.

    You wrote (very colourfully): Most recently, the fruitless mission through the neutral zone by Williams/Lindros was to appeal to a regulatory agency in Quebec to allow power from the Lower Churchill, whenever it becomes a reality, to flow through Curly Charests valleys, and into the Maritimes and the Northeastern United States.

    Guess what?

    Quebec/Stevens was waiting once more, and dropped our premier to the ice; its a wonder he wasnt on the next jet to the States for medical treatment.

    The Regie didn't deny anyone the ability to wheel power through Quebec. And actually that isn't what NALCOR was looking for, either.

    They went looking to change the rules so they didn't have to option a block or even indicate that they wanted to option a block of power within the same 45 day rule that applies to every other company wheeling power in Quebec.

    Heck it's the same rule that NALCOR lived by to run power through Quebec a year ago. Not surprising you forgot that one: everyone seems to have had a touch of amnesia about that one.

    There are no bogeymen here. There is no great conspiracy. There are no thugs waiting to pummel poor little Newfoundland or whatever other pile of foolishness someone wants to peddle to keep from looking at the bare-naked facts:

    If NALCOR had markets and it had the money, the project would be on the way and the power would be optioned.

    But that's nowhere near as entertaining as claiming that some goon squad just smashed our collective heads into the ice at an imaginary hockey game.

  • Taxpayer
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    For all the touting of Danny as the great legal eagle and strategist I find it strange that in his fights with Ottawa and Quebec he is always on the losing end. Is it that they are so much better or that he has not planned ahead far enough? My feeling is that if he had looked further ahead he might have countered the oppositions moves more. Maybe he is just not a good chess player.

  • Brian
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    If the Maritime route was a real option, don't you think Danny and Jerome would have aggressively pursued that option instead of wasting millions and millions arguing with Quebec? Face the facts folks, the maritime option is not a viable option....it's just smike and mirrors.

  • S
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    Lab12, I understand your sentiments towards the island portion of the province, I honestly do. I agree that too much has been taken out of labrador with only crumbs in return. (Ironically enough, this is the same argument many of the newfoundland nationalists make with regards to their place in Canada). And I would suggest it's not just the politicians who have the Cavalier attitude of just using Newfoundland when referencing the entire province. The average lay person on the street with no understanding that Labradorians have a distinct culture and heritage seperate from that of newfoundland, would have this attitude as well. Even Mr. Wakeham here showed the same line of thinking in his column. This mindset among many people that Labrador is just a piece of Newfoundland's property is a slap in the face to Labradorians, and I just wish people had more understanding of their entire province outside of their bay or cove. Having said that however, your statement that Labrador will have succeeded from amalgamation with the Island to become an independent and self sufficient territory is a pipe dream. You need people in positions of authority from Labrador to take up the cause and wage a public campaign to make this happen. And I really don't see the will being there. While Labradorians may rant in private about their unjust treatment, actually doing something about it is another thing.

  • Lab12
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    It is time those on the Island forget about Labrador and the Churchill Falls of past, present or future. The people of Labrador are fed up with the lack of return and abandonment shown by the Island Government. Before a shovel of dirt has been turned on the lower portion, the people of Labrador will have succeeded from amalgamation with the Island to become an independent and self sufficient territory.

    The Island has taken and taken from us from day one with nothing provided for the revenue generated. We will be far better off once the people vote to become independent and free from the restraints of backwards thinking politicians in St. Johns.

    How many times do we hear those in Confederation Building only referencing Newfoundland, and not Newfoundland and Labrador? The only time they mention us is when it is a benefit to them and the accountants. Enough is enough.

  • Barb
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    Ed Hollett, Wakeham used an analogy of a hockey game to get his point across. Obviously, you didn't get it! Very apt analogy, Wakeham.

  • Danny Give It Up
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    Time for Williams to give up Lower Churchill fight.

  • Ed
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    Great column, Bob.

    Just one small problem: it never happened.

    You wrote (very colourfully): Most recently, the fruitless mission through the neutral zone by Williams/Lindros was to appeal to a regulatory agency in Quebec to allow power from the Lower Churchill, whenever it becomes a reality, to flow through Curly Charests valleys, and into the Maritimes and the Northeastern United States.

    Guess what?

    Quebec/Stevens was waiting once more, and dropped our premier to the ice; its a wonder he wasnt on the next jet to the States for medical treatment.

    The Regie didn't deny anyone the ability to wheel power through Quebec. And actually that isn't what NALCOR was looking for, either.

    They went looking to change the rules so they didn't have to option a block or even indicate that they wanted to option a block of power within the same 45 day rule that applies to every other company wheeling power in Quebec.

    Heck it's the same rule that NALCOR lived by to run power through Quebec a year ago. Not surprising you forgot that one: everyone seems to have had a touch of amnesia about that one.

    There are no bogeymen here. There is no great conspiracy. There are no thugs waiting to pummel poor little Newfoundland or whatever other pile of foolishness someone wants to peddle to keep from looking at the bare-naked facts:

    If NALCOR had markets and it had the money, the project would be on the way and the power would be optioned.

    But that's nowhere near as entertaining as claiming that some goon squad just smashed our collective heads into the ice at an imaginary hockey game.

  • Taxpayer
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    For all the touting of Danny as the great legal eagle and strategist I find it strange that in his fights with Ottawa and Quebec he is always on the losing end. Is it that they are so much better or that he has not planned ahead far enough? My feeling is that if he had looked further ahead he might have countered the oppositions moves more. Maybe he is just not a good chess player.