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  • sealcove
    March 29, 2012 - 09:46

    Peope still watch CBC get out of here

  • Ed Hollett
    March 28, 2012 - 21:40

    CBC missed lost of other things, Peter. The ground search had air support from the beginning thanks to the good fortune that a helicopter was in the area. The police contacted provincial fire and emergency services to get their air support, in keeping with the standard practice. According to municipal affairs minister Kevin O'Brien Universal couldn't fly because of weather. At that point FES called DND. Unfortunately, the one aircraft in Goose Bay that was supposed to be serviceable had a fuel line problem. DND fixed it and in the meantime Universal got a helicopter in the air. As CBC misrepresented information, you did as well with respect to Cougar 491. You wind uop perpetuating the myth that " no equipment was available" because they were on a training exercise. The only thing you didn't use was that vicious untruth that they were "off-station" whatever that is. The truth is that the aircraft were available and were despatched immediately on receipt of the call. As it turned out, the aircraft from 103 Squadron as well as the Hercules from Greenwood were in Sydney Nova Scotia, not Halifax as you stated. That did not add significantly to the flight time compared to an equally likely situation that the aircraft had been flying anywhere in Newfoundland on the west coast or the Great Northern Peninsula. Negative publicity can have a bad effect on morale, but here's the thing I can tell you from the time I spent as a military public affairs officer. When you are criticised for things you did or failed to do, the criticism is easier to handle. You can always fix that. But when the attacks are based on falsehoods, and those falsehoods keep getting passed around or morph into other falsehoods despite the facts being readily available, that's a whole other matter. That's the stuff that just tears down people and destroys everything in its path. The first thing it slaughters is the truth.

    • Townie
      March 29, 2012 - 08:36

      The truth is that CBC interviewed Geoff Goodyear who stated that they did not have the same abilities as DND, no special equipment and no spotters. And the fault during the 491 crash was that NO aircraft were left in Newfoundland in case of emergency. The brass at DND deserve every bit of criticism that they get.

    • Peter Jackson
      March 29, 2012 - 09:43

      Ed: The fact you were in military PR only explains why you immediately go on the defensive and even call people "ghouls" every time they dare question SAR. In fact, your rebuttal is a little threadbare. The Halifax/Sydney distinction is splitting hairs, My point is still valid. Being unavailable due to training or maintenance is vastly different than being tied up with another emergency. And I don't even understand your "clarification" about the civilian helicopter. Neither CBC nor I glossed over the fact that a smaller chopper was helping in the search. From my recollection, CBC did confirm it was a request from ground search. As for the weather, early morning was apparently still plagued with the same conditions that drove Winters off track, but it must have cleared up pretty quickly. Like CBC, I checked weather records myself just after the incident, and the poor conditions appear to have been pretty fleeting. Also, when you say "DND fixed it" do you mean that they got the Griffon in the air? If not, what is your point?

  • William Daniels
    March 28, 2012 - 20:38

    Mr. Jackson, "sensational conclusion" ? I disagree. I thought The Fifth Estate took it too easy on the feds. Following the tragedy the subsequent pack of lies was sickening. There is no defending this.

    • Eli
      March 29, 2012 - 18:01

      That Commander bold facedly lied!. There's no such thing as a "waiting for the call" protocol which he so pompously claimed. If nothing else there should be an inquiry into his conduct and competence in this whole affair.