- HOA tapes
- May 16, 2012 - 07:57
The HOA tapes could be critiqued at school as part of the social sciences curriculum. It's absolutely the perfect material for educating young people on the phenomenon of bullying. Of course it’s in no way suitable for small children but could generate a lot of interesting discussion among older students about the dynamics of bullying, where it stems from, what causes some adults to behave like primates, how it detracts from real work and how much money and resources are wasted because of it. What about the dynamics of it. Ask the kids how they think the bully’s behaviour affects victims, bystanders, and all the taxpayers the bully is supposed to be working for instead of being obsessed with bullying. Show the kids, in real life, the sort of characters their parents, teachers, aunts, uncles, and neighbours put in charge of governing the province. There is no better public example of the various aspects of bullying than the HOA tapes. They’ve covered it all perfectly. If bullying is the blight on society that everyone says it is, then why not bring it right out into the open and at least give our young people the opportunity to make better choices.
- Herb Morrison
- May 14, 2012 - 11:09
Well-said, Mr. Tizzard and Mr. Wangersky
- Thanks Mr. Tizzard for bringing attention to the uncivil way matters are conducted in the House of Assembly of our province
- May 14, 2012 - 10:57
The behaviors of the House of Assembly are deplorable. It seems that the MHAs have no control over their self discipline, so therefore we the electorate should make sure civility reigns in our Government's House. Without a doubt it is only the ruling party that can enact a law to put an end to the raw uncouth manners that are portrayed there, and I think stopping the nonsense should be the first motion of the day in the next setting of the HOA.
- Ron Tizzard
- May 14, 2012 - 08:56
Great artcle Russell. I had shaken my head so many times in disbelief about the behaviours of Members, during my infrequent visits to the House many years ago, I experienced migrain, and had to stay away...one of my better decisions. What does one do about it? Threaten Members not to vote for them! They cannot be shamed. Ask them outside the House about it, and they'll kiss it off as all part and parcel of the 'atmosphere of debate', ranting, roaring, and insulting! Of course, it's our fault...we keep voting them in, they are not held accountable. I think it was generally 'THOUGHT' that having a Lady Premier may clean up the behaviours a bit....really, I think they have plunged more deply. Of course, the bottom line, the rational is to 'DISTRACT' from the core value of insecurity...you would never, I mean never hear a secure person rant or roar...they believe in their values, in what they are saying....you want to listen ....fine, if not...also fine. They are secure with their own mind-sets...they do not have to brow-beat somebody into submission, or shout and stand so long to run 'available debate time out'. Really, there should be signs posted in and around the House of Assembly indicating 'NO CHILDREN, OR SELF-RESPECTING ADULTS ALLOWED'. Isn't it shameful that I, others, (you Russell) should even have to address this shameful issue. Members will always say 'it's part and parcel of lively debate'...CRAP! The behaviours are nothing but ELEMENTS OF INSECURITY, AND DETRATORS FROM 'THE OTHERWISE RAW TRUTHS. EVIDENCE - How often does one hear great orators sharing rational positions, opinions in an insulting, ranting, roaring manner. I rest my case. (Been there and done it.. haven't we all), but, it isn't right...and most certainly in the HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY. By the way, and I am very serious...signs should be posted outside the House....ADULT ENTERTAINMENT, NO CHILDREN PERMITTED; THE hORROR - WHEN SCHOOL KIDS VISIT THE HOUSE, NOTHING CHANGES. There have to be Members who are absolutely ashamed of the behaviours of 'most' their fellow Members. I suggest to them... WHY DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Very specifically right now, I am thinking of Paul Davis (he exudes respectfulness, and listens...he must be horrrified)...why don't you address the issue, Paul...the public, visiting kids and teachersand like-minded Members from whatever stripe will respect you for it.
- I am elated that Brad Cabana arrived on the scene in Newfoundland and Labrador
- May 13, 2012 - 17:21
First of all I like to say that I am elated that Brad Cabana arrived on the scene in Newfoundland and Labrador, he certainly has the electorate talking. Also if what Mr. Cabana said in his post that what we are witnessing is Danny and the boys killing off their own Party, and getting the ground ready for Dean... to take over, then that, in my opinion, represents a conspiracy against the people of our province and it should be nipped in the bud immediately. As I don't want our province and its natural resources to be continued to be controlled by the Ottawa Government for the benefit of the other provinces, I do not want our province to be controlled by a bunch of ex-politicians from this province who, it seems, have their own best interests at heart. After all these years of existence, it is time that Newfoundlanders and Labradorians be governed by persons with honesty, integrity and a desire by whoever will rule us in the future to see that the natural resources of the province of Newfoundland and Labrador generates the vibrant economy that should have been built here ever since we have been part of Canada.
- William Daniels
- May 13, 2012 - 12:48
Love or hate Cabana; it's a good post.
- May 13, 2012 - 08:46
Keep on fighting the good fight Mr. Cabana. We need more like you. (In case anyone is wondering, this is NOT sarcasm.)
- Christopher Chafe
- May 13, 2012 - 08:10
I always thought journalism was supposed to be bi-partisan, this article unless I am reading it wrong, is trying to drum up pity or empathy for the orange crush party. As for Copa Cabana, when are you gonna go and flourish in the florida sun for the rest of your life?
- May 13, 2012 - 09:05
Since when was deriding childishness in the so called House of Assembly bi-partisan CHRISTOPHER? It/they cost us big money and bullying and childish nonsense the likes of Darrin King last week is not what we're paying for. Oh, I forgot, it won't change simply because they make their own rules.
- May 12, 2012 - 21:01
Kathy Dunderdale is proving to be very incompetent as Premier. To bad. I supported her and thought she was going to do great things. I was watching the HOA last week and all I could here was Joan Burkes big mouth bullying Lorraine Michael. Then Burke could be heard having personal conversations with her colleagues saying at 5:05 PM on a Thursday " Ok I gotta go". Leaving while the house is still open. Talking while someone else is talking. I wonder how she is with her friends? Wouldn't want to be her husband. Bossy and rude that's how Burke comes across. Dunderdale is just as bad. The spend tons of money on antibullying and you can tune in to the HOA and see grown adults behaving little idiots. It is pathetic!
- Christopher Chafe
- May 13, 2012 - 08:12
and YVONNE JONES does not act like this?
- William Daniels
- May 12, 2012 - 10:11
" Which, by the way, makes her a … wait a second." A hypocrite. There. I said it. The rules of the house don't apply to me. Thank God.
- May 12, 2012 - 09:49
Excellent article. But I'd like to point out that "mob-rule behaviour" IS tolerated in office environments. The bullying is just not as blatant as what goes on in the House of Assembly. The abuse in office settings is perpetrated using sneaky, covert methods, and the boss is very often one of the perpetrators - perpetrators who are experts at feigning innocence to the hilt when the need arises. At least Ms. Michael has documented, bona fide proof that she's being bullied. If you're being covertly bullied in an office, odds are that no one knows about it except for you, the people closest to you outside of work and the sadistic bullies themselves. The bullies are comprised of A/ the ones perpetually stirring the pot B/ the followers who seem incapable of thinking for themselves and who believe whatever the person stirring the pot tells them to believe and C/ people who perhaps realize what's going on but jump on the bully bandwagon anyway for fear of getting on the bad side of the bullies themselves. When office bullying is in full-swing mode, what also happens is that the perpetrators fall all over themselves to be UBER friendly towards each other - as if to try to prove to themselves how incredibly!!!!!!!! wonderful they are; therefore if they are bullying someone, that person must darn well deserve it because they are just far!!!! to nice to bully someone without just cause. Workplace bullies are so far from being nice, ethical people, if it wasn't so disgusting, it would be laughable. But they seem utterly convinced of their goodness. Duh!
- May 13, 2012 - 15:55
PS I didn't invent the concept of workplace bullying. It is a very real, well documented and well researched phenomenon. It's not something that's only happened one single time in one single office. Far from it. Bureaucratic organizations really need to learn how to deal with it more effectively.
- Brad Cabana
- May 12, 2012 - 09:29
Right on the money Russell. Let me fill in the ... for you : hypocrit. What we are witnessing is Danny and the boys killing off their own Party, and getting the ground ready for Dean... to take over. It's all about control, and some people don't know when to let go...Danny.