- August 31, 2012 - 10:45
You can get zeroes in university.What about the students who hand every thing in on time ? Should a student handing in his/her work weeks or even months later get the same mark ? They could copy the work from other students.A student should get an incomplete as a grade if he/she does not complete the required work.If a student does not want to study for a test or do an assignment,he/she has to be given more chances.What about work ethic and responsibility for your actions? There is no research to support the banning of zeroes.
- August 30, 2012 - 06:39
The sad thing is, students lose out.When did teachers become social workers and try to solve the students problems.I thought parents did that.Dave you are right in what you said.Wonder if Rich,and Dave ever went to school!!
- Truth Be Told
- August 29, 2012 - 20:07
In theory, the policy makes sense; Cheating and passing in late assignments are behaviours that need to be dealt with through consequences that do not reflect the students' knowledge of the curriculum. In reality, the policy does not work because it allows students to manipulate parents , teachers and staff . This is the case because the consequences offered are not harsh enough to deter the behaviour (s) in question in many cases. As well, the policy creates a huge workload issue for teachers. Work hours are clearly determined in the Provincial Collective Agreement. If something is to be done sooner rather than later about this policy, teachers should ask when these extra duties need to be completed. There is not enough time, given the correcting, assessment creation, lesson planning etc. File a grievance. Also parents, please do not cease or desist in your resolve to let officials know that you do not agree with this policy.
- August 29, 2012 - 13:55
There is a very simple explanation and rationale for not giving zeros to students. If there are no zero's or for that matter failing grades, the average grades of the school and in turn the school district gets raised. Thereby either meeting or exceeding the national average in math, science and literacy. This can be the ONLY reasonable explantion for such a stupid policy.
- Dave Sullivan
- August 29, 2012 - 09:28
A grade is used as a measurement tool. Giving a child a zero is telling the child that they know nothing. If a child isn't passing in any work and is absent so much that obtaining work is impossible, then there are greater issues at play. Issues that can't be solved by telling the child that they know nothing.
- Robert Riche
- August 29, 2012 - 20:23
respectfully Dave that is not what a zero says, a zero can say, incomplete, didn't bother, could care less, parents were fighting, I forgot about it, and so on and so on ....it rarely ever means the child knows nothing
- August 30, 2012 - 00:42
Wrong, Dave. Teachers don't mark students. They mark tests and assignments. Giving a zero doesn't mean the student knows nothing. It simply means the work submitted is worth nothing. If a student does not submit work, or submits it long after the rest of the class has moved on to other work, or submits work copied from someone else, then that work is worth nothing and says nothing about the student, so it should get a zero. And if receiving a zero makes a student feel bad about themselves, then the student has an incentive to submit better, more timely and more honest work. That's the whole point.