- Foghorn Leghorn
- December 15, 2012 - 09:00
Unfortunately it is a sign of the times. One time people would leave their front doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition of their vehicle without giving a second thought. Increased security is just a cold hard fact of life. Anyone who thinks otherwise have their heads completely buried in the sand.
- December 13, 2012 - 18:54
The view of the harbour is the least of my worries, it's the mindset at City Hall. Transport Canada didn't require these changes and is satisfied that security at the harbour front is satisfactory.. This was spin (my polite term) by Council to confuse the public (and apparently some councillors) in order to justify spending money on an unnecessary project. Again, it's an example of decisions being made with our tax dollars at the whim of certain councillors.
- December 13, 2012 - 12:58
We have to remember that 9/11 changed everything, guys. Don't tell me your nice little view of the harbour is more important than stopping the threat to our freedom (which our soldiers fought and died for, thank you very much!!!!) When I see people get mad over this, I think one thing: homegrown terorism!!!!!! We need to start loving our country again...... (lest we forget...) Also it is the job of the gov't to protect people, we need to protect boats so boatsmen and boatswomen will come to NL with their $$$$$$!
- December 13, 2012 - 14:06
9-11 was eleven years ago. My heart is bleeding.
- December 13, 2012 - 16:59
World War Two was over 60 years ago, but we still need people to make sacrifices for the counmtry and its freedom!!!!!!! Move to Iran if you love their way of life...
- December 15, 2012 - 10:57
You're so far out I'd suggest you get help.
- December 16, 2012 - 15:16
Give me a break. I guess you are still looking for WMDs in Iraq!
- Beaches and Wharfs
- December 12, 2012 - 18:06
There is a lot more to the context of the fencing issue than just wrought iron railing or chain links. Normally one cannot fence without a survey – if only to avoid genuine errors and encroachments if not an outright claim. For example where does the City’s Harbour Drive easement end and the Federal Port Buffer Start. Then this wharf is only the Post Confederation wharf. Back in the day ships would enter the merchants finger piers right up to the back of Merchant’s buildings on the South side of Water St. “Public access” was probably informal and limited to several “Coves” including the original “Kings Beach”. Back further in the day, the original fishing rooms may have reached the North Side of Water St. Then again, fencing lore in the City of legends is unique. Some ecclesiastical land boundaries were granted by the Governors of the day as far as the Parish Could Fence in an afternoon. Rights are rights, liberties are liberties, but it may take a little more precise geometry to describe just what exactly is in question. Was this not part of the problem with the Grand Falls Mill fiasco?
- December 13, 2012 - 10:15
There's also more to this than precise geometry. There's a disturbing mindset evolving in council. It's "Let's tax them more, let's charge them more, let's regulate them more." This mindset too often seems to be directed at the ordinary taxpayer. While I'm not a big proponent of the "good old days" mindset. I sure wish we could get our city back from this crowd of empire builders at city council.
- December 12, 2012 - 07:41
Couldn't agree more, Patricia. If Transport Canada claims to be interpreting international agreements and thus setting a requirement for the Port Authority, why can't we see the actual order from Transport Canada? My suspicion is that there isn't a specific requirement for a permanent fence to cover a specific area. I understand there was a risk assessment indicating that perimeter security needed to be improved, but I am willing to bet that there are several options as to how that security could be improved. The fence is a significant one time layout of cash, but I'm thinking that the Port Authority sees it as cheaper in the long run than hiring extra security guards, extra people to monitor surveillance cameras, or whatever other options there might be. On top of that, they're getting the City to chip in. I think this is win-win for the Port, becuase they're making Transport Canada happy and they're getting a bargain on a fence from City Hall. I think a permanent fence is a choice that they have made out of an array of potential options to increase security. I also question the amount of real estate around the harbour which needs to be at this lockdown level of security. Yes, permanently fence certain areas, but the area along the harbour apron should continue to be fenced temporarily only when ships with heightened security needs dock there. This is St. John's, for God's sake, not Beirut, or even New York City.