‘Sorry Newfoundland, you are not what I expected’

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I am just finishing up my holiday here in Newfoundland. It is my first time here, and sadly, it is also my last.

I have been to numerous parts of the world over the years, and I’ve even been to Canada before … but I had never been to Newfoundland.

I have always heard of a beautiful land with untouched natural beauty and a friendly, generous people — a place called Newfoundland.

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I have even met Newfoundlanders before and they have always been wonderful. So, it was a no-brainer — I was visiting Newfoundland!

I have seen some wonderful natural beauty and, I have met some friendly individuals.

However, I am leaving this island with a completely different opinion now that I have spent time here.

I came to Newfoundland to take a long, relaxing break. So, I booked a house in a small, well-known town in Conception Bay North. I came to wake up in the morning to the smell of fresh air. I came to put on my walking trainers and stroll the small town. I came to shop at the small grocery stores and quaint shopping centres. I came to read on the patio and drink iced tea in the evenings.

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This, however, is what I experienced:

1.  I have overheard neighbours arguing over land. And, trust me, I’ve overheard some nasty stuff.

2. I have been rattled by all-terrain vehicles zooming around the streets. Is this allowed on streets here?

3. I have nearly been run over by speeding cars — several times. I am shocked at how fast people drive here. They speed along the small roads while talking on their hand-held device. I understand that there are not always sidewalks in small towns due to budget constraints. On numerous occasions, I have had to step into the ditch or wild bushes to avoid the speeding car coming towards me.  And, these speeding cars are not always being driven by 20-somethings either — they are being driven by soccer moms and middle-aged people.

Speaking of vehicles, does this province require inspections — because I have seen some vehicles that are definitely not safe for the streets.

4.  I have “attempted” to go into shopping centres, but the entrances are lined up with vehicles. Why do people not park in the parking spaces? They drop off/pick up someone at the entrance, but then they stay there reading the newspaper or just staring at everyone entering and leaving. I have even had to go around vehicles that are parked on the crosswalk in front of the entrance. I am not kidding. I can’t believe this is what is considered normal here. That is blatant disrespect for others.

5. Speaking of shopping, I have noticed something that is different here than anywhere else I have lived. When another cashier opens up due to a line-up, people at the back of the line run over to the newly opened cash. Maybe this is how things are done here, but where I come from, when a new cashier opens up, the next person in line (since they have been waiting the longest) goes to the new checkout. It’s no big deal to me, I’ve got lots of time.  However, I just found it strange since Newfoundlanders are known to be friendly, courteous.

As a matter of fact, I was at the back of the line once, and when the new cashier opened up, I offered that the person ahead of me go to that newly opened lane because that is what we do — it is called being courteous to others. The cashier even commented on this. So, obviously, she does not see that happen very often.

6.  Litter! I am shocked at how much garbage and litter are in these small towns. People obviously have no respect for their planet or the history of their quaint towns — if they did, they would keep them clean.

And this is what disturbs me the most — apparently, this area is also notorious for animal cruelty. This really saddens me.  I am an animal lover and a member of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals in the U.S.A. Animals deserve our love and respect.

I know that what I have experienced does not apply to every Newfoundlander. And, for those of you that are good, decent, friendly people, who are courteous, good to animals, and drive by the rules, then I am sorry that your fellow inhabitants are ruining your reputation.

I am now headed back home, and I am disturbed and sad for what I have experienced here. I will not be recommending Newfoundland to my friends, family and co-workers.

Sorry Newfoundland, you are not what I expected.

 

Gene Poole

North Carolina

Geographic location: Newfoundland, Canada, Newfoundland.I Conception Bay North

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  • Mike Orlando
    October 21, 2014 - 14:34

    I am from PA and have visited Newfoundland over 40 times. You sound as though you live in Stepford, USA. and live a Stepford life. (In case you didn't get it watch the "Stepford Wives". Everything you said that you experienced there I have experienced here and I live in an upper middle class area for 35 yrs. I enjoyed Newfoundland so much that I had a summer home built there on the West Coast in the Bay St George area. Newfoundland and Labrador have the lowest crime rate in Canada. The crime rate in NC is probably quadruple and the murder rate tenfold. As far as the people you heard arguing over land....In the states they KILL over land. Mistreating animals? Isn't MICHAEL VICK from North Carolina???? I assure you there are no dog fights, rooster fights and breeding farms on the island. Here is a great Newfoundland saying for you.. "Look in you own corners" Read about Delta airlines and what they experienced on 9-11 Signed: A screeched in Newfoundlander.

  • Karen
    October 12, 2014 - 12:54

    After reviewing these comments there is a imminent thread which is intolerance of others from other people as well as the obvious failure to look at our own probless many of which we accuse others of. Pathetic. We see what we wish. Our experiencesite are filtered through our sometimes distorted filters. The pettiness about problems in Newfoundland complained about is rather silly. It's a beautiful country. The same problems occur in the US.if you travel research. If it doesn't go your way suck it up. It's temporary. Enjoy it.

  • Suzette Hillier
    October 11, 2014 - 10:45

    Well,I have been in the United States a lot and The roads are not fit to drive on. Most of the hotels are not up to par. The people I have been around are not friendly. Also, you do not have to be in Newfoundland to hear people argue or even drive fast. So I do not know what your problem is but anyway people like you are not welcome in our beautiful province or Country.

  • Sue
    October 02, 2014 - 17:48

    I agree completely with this. I moved here a few months ago. I've never seen so many cars parked in fire lanes. There is garbage everywhere. I've never seen so much litter. There are no vehicle inspections here. Many vehicles are not safe for the roads. The people drive like maniacs and do not even consider pedestrians. It's like stepping back twenty years and losing your manners. It is nothing like I expected. I have lived in six provinces and enjoyed every one, but this one. I look forward to my contract ending so I can leave this island. I want to be in a place where people don't block fire lanes, they are kind to others and they pick up their litter. I'm very disappointed with Newfoundland and Newfoundlanders.

  • D
    October 02, 2014 - 15:57

    I visit the island every summer, it is spectacular! I've yet to encounter the kind of treatment this person is claiming, and I've travelled from Port Aux Basques to St. Anthony, Twillingate, Bonavista, St. John's and everywhere in between. Everyone has been welcoming, courteous, and willing to help. I tend to focus most of my time there on the west coast, though. I'm curious as to what community this person is referring to. Anyways, I'd move there in an instant if my situation allow it!

  • krista
    September 29, 2014 - 23:14

    First of all , i have never been to CBN but i think if you came to st. john's your outlook on Newfoundland would of been a lot better . From what i heard CBN is a beautiful place. I think you didn't take the time to look at the true beauty of Newfoundland . Maybe you think the glass is half empty instead of half full. Ive been to a lot of places in the states and there were a couple places that were so dirty and gross it was actually scary ... i didn't know if someone was going to shoot me . I didn't go to the local news paper and complain about how dirty or how their town made every hair on my body stand up because i didn't know if i was going to get robed at gun point , I kept it to my self because i knew that not ever place in that state was like that . It all depends on where you go. If you don't want to come back to Newfoundland that is your choice , but everyone i have ever spoken too that are not from here LOVE it here . I think you just had a bad experience . Newfoundland is one of the most beautiful places in the world and there are no other places like it.

  • Bob
    September 28, 2014 - 19:30

    me duck ye are so right. thei nufeys are soo dumb I live the me hole life and nun of then cant spek right me boy. nhe are so dumb

  • JC
    September 06, 2014 - 07:51

    I moved here 3 years ago and I can't wait to leave. I agree with all of Gene's comments. The service standard is awful here. I never get greeted in stores, we had to beg someone to help us buy an ATV . The sales persons all ignored us. I refuse to shop here anymore. I buy online or whenever I leave the province I plan a shopping trip. The people are not friendly and not welcoming at all. Litter, litter, litter. I can't believe how many times I have seen people driving along and dumping mcdonalds bags, coffee cups etc. who litters anymore? The rest of Canada is recycling and reducing garbage.....catch up to the rest of society. I also agree how cruel animals are treated here. It breaks my heart to see animals in small cages, tethered outside in horrible weather, hunting dogs treated awful...underweight, living in small open cages on the back of pick ups. I will say that the west coast of the island is much better. So to anyone visiting, stick on the west coast. Forget the Avalon. This area leaves a bad impression of Newfoundland to anyone visiting.

  • Raymond Norwood
    Raymond Norwood
    August 29, 2014 - 17:57

    Don,t think this "Gene Poole" is from away as they claim, in fact I don't think they exist. I believe this is a native Newfoundlander showing their disgust with the way they see Newfoundland changing. I am in fact from North Carolina myself , my wife and I spend our summers here in Newfoundland and have done so for the last fourteen years and we intend to keep doing just that. Times are changing for sure but the gene pool has not sunk to anywhere near the level it has in many areas of North Carolina. We love Newfoundland and recommend it to all of our friends.

  • Elizabeth O'leary Penney
    August 22, 2014 - 12:09

    Don't know what this lady from North Carolina is talking about, just came back from our home town St. John's Newfoundland, we where up in Conception Bay, thought it was breath taking. You can't find more friendlier people than Newfoundlanders. Our daughter was born & raised in Ontario, but her heart is in Newfie. If you want to find unfriendly people & a dirty City come to Ontario, one time it was a beautiful clean City but hasn't been for yrs, because a lot of the people who live in Ontario now are not taking pride in their property or City property. We've visited different parts of the United States never thought much of the places we visited. 1004

    • Rex Barrington
      October 06, 2014 - 06:50

      Your perspective is that of a local. :) It's easy to see a place's beauty when you come from there. The things she says about how we treat people are true and I'm in NS. The things she describes are real but we happen to enjoy the freedom of not being part of the high-strung rat race.

  • Kyle
    August 21, 2014 - 16:08

    The part about the drivers and the litter is definitely true. One of the most dangerous places I have ever seen to drive, and the litter is pretty bad. Many other mainlanders that I know here will go out every few months and pick up all the litter around their places because they cannot deal with it anymore. Not much else rings true though.

  • ian
    August 21, 2014 - 09:42

    PETA kills more animals per year than it saves. Talk about animal cruelty. Maybe you should read up on it Gene, if that is your real name. Warning the following link may contain graphic images. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

  • joe
    August 20, 2014 - 17:41

    you should have visited st.johns because they don't park right in front of the stores and if a new cash opens the person who is next in line is the one to go first also there is less garbage oh and way less yelling also if u speed you are mostly teens. just saying not all Newfoundlanders are the same some are modern and others are old fashioned now nothing against cbn cause I haven't been there but I think thet st.johns id the best spot to visit if u go to newfoundland

  • Jonathan Warren
    August 20, 2014 - 15:11

    Can you Newfs do anything bforever since confederation, it's always about the weather or your money, or something like mill or your healthcare or church, live you already and boo hoo hoostop listening to news propaganda

  • ian
    August 20, 2014 - 13:40

    I just got back from North Carolina as I had wanted to see what it was like visiting a place in America. Well the worst time of it. Obese people all over the place stinking up the air around me with the bod odor. Do these people know what bathing is? The massive amount of traffic everywhere. Wow how do you breathe with all that pollution spewing out all over the place. Lack of trees. People plant something other than a street sign. Oh the street signs that tell you to go nowhere and are so confusing to try to figure out where you are going and where you have just come from. Concrete as fr as my eyes could see. Bums, I had never seen so many bums in my life and I am not talking about nice ones in jeans. Constantly harassed for my change or asked if I want to buy crack about a dozen times in a ten minute walk. Haven't these people in N.C. realized that drugs are not good for them? The constant smell of rotting meat or something in the air. I still am trying to wash that out of my clothing. God how do you live in such a disgusting place. I will never return to such a horrid disgusting place ever again in my lifetime, nor will I suggest to anyone to go there ever. Just glad to be back home in good old Newfoundland.

    • Rex Barrington
      October 06, 2014 - 06:59

      This is part of the problem. Instead of saying "you're right, we have some tings te deal wit." we speak up with our false pride and say: "Look at you and your messes." Good grief, grow up and stop being a victim. We're not perfect. :P

  • Kelvin Krastel
    August 19, 2014 - 12:36

    I just returned from Newfoundland. Found it absolutely wonderful!

  • william
    August 18, 2014 - 09:48

    Try hanging out in a country bar the most racist people i have ever met

  • Carol A. Gauden
    August 17, 2014 - 07:24

    It's been 20 years since landing in Newfoundland for a road trip with my dogs. There was no traffic, no trash, and hardly any people. I could have bought a house beside the water for U.S.$6,000 but the only negative was a fairly close neighbor blasting his music which, after inquiring, I found to be the norm. So, it seemed pointless to buy a property and have no peace. Other than that, it was a non-eventful and nice time. When looking at property prices in Newfoundland lately, I've been astonished at the rise in prices. My observation is that, worldwide, when house prices rise uncontrollably, human behavior falls uncontrollably; it's a frustrated reaction to unfair and unreasonable economics that are promulgated by a very few who can profit from certain decisions. It looks like we're all suffering, one way or the other, from the same disastrous outcome. The good news is, the pendulum does swing if we're only willing to play the game and wait and want the good that used to be . . . it will surely return to us like a boomerang!

  • Matt guy
    August 13, 2014 - 21:03

    Whatever by, best place on earth. Ppl driving fast trash on the ground and having too wait in a line is a pretty weak thing too ruin a vacation. She's a beauty province with great ppl.

  • Sue Martin
    August 12, 2014 - 08:44

    So your first visit to Newfoundland was a bust. You are from NC. Well I was born in Montreal, married a Newfoundlander and in '79 moved to North Carolina. We now own a summer home in Newfoundland at the tip of Conception Bay and Trinity Bay. We spent 5 months here and the rest of our time in NC. I would much rather be here in Newfoundland than NC. You think they drive fast in Newfoundland - then you must not travel the roads in NC. 90% of them drive lying down in the drivers seat; 90% of them are rude and discourteous; and speed they invented. Shopping is a horror story with clerks very rude and half the time you cannot find any. You say NC people in line at a store are very decent and let the next one in line go ahead when a new cash opens - where is that one store located as I would really like to visit it. You base your opinion on one little town - very unfair to say the least. I suppose you never heard the story of Gander and how the people in that town took in all the people off the flights diverted because of 911. You should look it up and play the story which was done by Tom Brokaw. Hundreds of people opened their homes to these travelers, stores clothed them as they could not get their luggage, they were given drugs from the pharmacies as they could not get theirs, they were given anything they needed - at no cost. Their pets were taken care of - walked and fed by the towns people - given freely of their time. What a sad person you are Gene Poole - and to think you are from North Carolina.

  • perry
    August 04, 2014 - 12:55

    i agree with everything you said, i live here. newfoundland is not what its cut out to be at all, fill with poverty ,over priced everything, rude idiots , trash everywhere . on top of that there is nothing for the youth , and no jobs . best bet for anyone living there is to pack up and leave. that is if you can afford the hundred and something dollar ferry ride out of here, or the extra hundred or so for a plane ticket out of here

    • Dj
      August 15, 2014 - 08:35

      #perry, I live here as well and jobs are not hard to find if you are willing to work. If you are in the movie business you have no reason to be here but construction or business jobs are not hard to find. I agree with the trash, we need more bins but I lived in Toronto and sometimes you have to walk a kilometre just to find a garbage bin. Rude ppl are everywhere but in Newfoundland we have a hand full of those, in other places a handfull of good ppl.

  • Debbied
    August 04, 2014 - 08:31

    Did you visit western newfoundland, the Gros Morne area? If so, i think you would find it quite different than conception bay area. I have to agree, conception bay is the last place in newfoundland i would visit. Come again and give our part of the island a try. I promise you will love us here.

  • Kent Noseworthy
    July 31, 2014 - 13:17

    The experiences you have and how you react to them say a lot about yourself. It's common for some people to only notice things that bother them, while dismissing things that don't . Go anywhere, and look for bad things, you'll find them. If you are expecting bad things, the bad encounters reenforce your bias, while the good behavior, that doesn't support your negative view, goes unnoticed. If you visited Calgary during stampede week, for example, you'd think the whole metropolitan area was populated by ignorant drunk womanizing hicks and rednecks, all wearing cowboy hats. (confirming what many already believe). If you went to Calgary after stampede, however, you would realize you are wrong; Nobody really wears cowboy hats.

    • Pete Martin
      August 04, 2014 - 10:32

      Good 'ole Newfoundland. Can't wait to get back so I can roar around on me ATV drinking a beer and talking on me cellphone as I throw my trash at random American tourists. The only thing better is chatting in the mall door so no one can get in. And I loves cutting into lineups b'y, nothing like it. Makes me feel like a real Newfoundlander.

  • Rockey
    July 26, 2014 - 08:20

    When it comes to ones experience in visiting this province (or any place for that matter) it's simply a matter of opinion. One thing that I definitely agree with though is the driving. I've driven in most Canadian cities, many US states and even in the Caribbean. Without a doubt the absolute worst drivers that I have come across are fellow Newfoundlanders, especially in St. John's. The attitude is like, "This is my frigging street, you have no right to be on it, crossing at a crosswalk, leaving your driveway or driving the speed limit. If you disturb my path of driving, I will run you over!" I've experienced drivers driving onto sidewalks to pass another driver going the speed limit in a residential neighborhood. I've seen drivers pull out and pass another car stopped at a crosswalk to let children cross, missing them by inches. And giving someone a break to leave their driveway...you can forget about that. I live in a residential area and have watched traffic driving the streets. Everyone is speeding, from passengers cars, delivery trucks, taxis and even the cities Metrobusses. I have expressed these concerns to city official who have turned a blind eye to it. I guess they are waiting until a child is killed before responding. If you are a tourist, come visit this beautiful province it is awesome! However, be extremely careful driving. You will not be given any courtesy!

  • Margaret
    July 23, 2014 - 08:34

    I read with a little sadness your opinion of the Conception Bay town and your general findings of NL and her people. I live in Hamilton, Ontario, my province of birth is NL. Yes, I agree, the people and land have changed from the happy and caring place that it was, but then, hasn't the whole world? Try smiling at someone on the street the next time you step outside - that smile will be passed on and maybe this old world can become what gave Newfoundland the reputation that it once enjoyed. I know, I am a dreamer, but why not try?

  • Antlife
    July 18, 2014 - 17:16

    Gene maybe if you were drinking newfie beer in the evenings instead of iced tea you wouldn't be so negative about this beautiful island. It is what it is, if you don't like it then stay in the states and stop talking down on NFLD. Lighten up for Christ sakes

  • Lisa Brown
    July 16, 2014 - 20:45

    I live in Nl. I completely agree with Gene. The country is magnificent but there is so much wrong with this province it's truly astounding. I live in a place where I need different numbers for police, fire and ambulance. Oh, and I'd you didn't pay your service fees, the firefighters won't come to put out your fire. The house burns to the ground. What's with that? People are much more friendly on the mainland in Toronto of all places! There are kids about 8 to 10 zipping up and down public roads on quads and motorized scooters in the summer and ATVs and snowmobiles in the winter. Until 2 years ago it was acceptable to ride in the back of a pick up truck on roads and highways. Forget about forging friendships, everyone is in their own little clique. No one else gets in. Need something? Call a business and leave a message, as requested, and hurry up and wait for a response. No one calls you back. The entrance ways to most stores are clogged from people having a get together at the doors. Ask a clerk if they have anymore of the item you want? They tell you, "if it's not on the shelf, we don't have it". No one goes to check for you and sometimes they avoid you so. It's as if we should make way for them because they're working instead of the other way around. No lights on the highways and dark as pitch. No brush cleared next to the highway, encouraging moose to graze close to the road. Sometimes I feel as though I'm being held captive at home in deference to the moose. People don't seem to give a rats you know what for others. It's "me first" all the way. They don't observe rules of the road. Watch them pull out in front of you, slow down and hold up traffic for miles. I know of people who go out west, making the best kind of money then take the winter off on EI. Gives others a bad name. Someone please buy my house so I can get out of here.

    • Eva
      September 25, 2014 - 11:28

      Okay the retail thing? "If it's not on the shelf we don't have it." That's actually true. That magical place called "the back" isn't a portal for stuff you want. We have what we have, and no they won't go check because they've already checked ten thousand times for people who've asked that same question. Us retail workers know what we have, and if we don't we will say so. Stop being so entitled.

    • J B
      October 04, 2014 - 20:07

      Lisa - i could not agree more with everything that you said. I have lived here for 7 years now, and i can't wait to leave. Please email me - let's have a chat! suna22@hotmail.com

  • AL
    July 15, 2014 - 18:26

    I am from Newfoundland, and have lived in numerous places throughout Canada, the US, and Europe. I couldn't agree with Gene more. I hear on a weekly basis how "nice the people of Newfoundland" are. The only people saying this.....are Newfoundlanders. You visit any other city, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, New York.....the people are nicer. Especially in the service industry. It's unfortunate....but it's all true.

  • Tyler
    July 15, 2014 - 12:23

    Sure ye Americans don't gotta like da best place in da world haha, bikes goin down da road? Cars goin fast? Buddy dats just da way Newfoundland is, and das da way it's gunna stay by . Long live Newfoundland! Haha

  • Tyler
    July 15, 2014 - 12:20

    Sure ye Americans don't gotta like da best place in da world haha, bikes goin down da road? Cars goin fast? Buddy dats just da way Newfoundland is, and das da way it's gunna stay by . Long live Newfoundland! Haha

  • Heather George
    July 14, 2014 - 16:55

    Wow Gene ,you must live in a monastery, not to hear people grumbling over land, Land has been for numerous years, the start of many a war. Litter is everywhere, speeding cars while on their devices happens also. Animal cruelty is another happening, that takes place just about any place you visit(unfortunately). You don't like our beloved province, because you are seeing only what you wanted to see . Too bad, I would rather live here then the U S OF A.

  • Riley
    July 12, 2014 - 11:10

    I find this article completely full of ignorance with no intelligence to back up arguements. If you haven't actually realized, no matter where you on go, your always gonna find somewhere that has litter and are full of drivers that shouldn't be driving. You were also in one part of the province. When I visited there, we traveled pretty well a'll of Newfoundland (as much as we could) And every town/city was different than the last. You lack intelligence and are full of ignorance and truthfully the Province of Newfoundland doesn't need people like you there because you're there to bash the Province instead of looking for the amazing things about it

    • chaser
      August 16, 2014 - 17:11

      Lack of intelligence? She sounds quite intelligent. Your comment shows a lack of maturity. She had a bad experience. She wrote about it. Let me guess, you're from Nfld., pretending that you're not, and are throwing a fit. Grow up.

  • CARRIE GOSSE
    July 07, 2014 - 22:46

    sorry we werent that perfect world that you blindly expected

  • L
    July 06, 2014 - 22:50

    I was commiserating with you as I was reading your story....but you lost my respect and interest when I got to the part about you being a member of PETA! I am a NL'er and an avid animal lover..have 5 pets that are treated better than some children are! I support our local SPCA's and all but 1 of my pets are rescue animals. But PETA???? All I can say is I'm sorry you have fallen victim to their lies. I'm sorry you had, what you think of, as a bad experience in our beautiful province, but honestly....given that you have a PETA mentality I'm not surprised at all. From what I have seen, such small, closed minds and when they think they know something there's no reasoning with them..the FACTS mean nothing! I hope your next vacation ...wherever in the world it may be...lives up to your standards in all aspects.

  • pat
    June 27, 2014 - 01:54

    hello yes their are people like that in nfld but it is also in other parts of the world, and by the way alot of people that are in nfld are not from here but live here their hole life or half their life. they are from different parts of canada and usa.

  • Lii
    June 17, 2014 - 09:12

    I was born and raised in Newfoundland and I completely agree with you. It is not like it used to be, by no means. Also, if you had deviated from that small community you were in you would have noticed that there is rarely any customer service at any store, even in the small neighborhood convenience stores owned and operated by older people. There is rarely any respect and mostly everyone I meet, even relatives, have this "entitlement" attitude. I go back to my hometown every summer and I go to town once to buy supplies then I am back to my cottage and that's where I stay, hence I be stressed out by the contempt I feel for most of these people. As for the scenery, there is no where in the world I would rather take a vacation. You, my friend, were obviously in the wrong place. Perhaps next time you will do your research, just saying.

  • EH
    June 05, 2014 - 08:10

    This letter is a fake. Americans don't use words like 'trainer' or 'cash.' The author writes like a woman but uses a male sign off (Gene Pool? Really?). Many of these complaints could be made about any rural community in the US or Canada. Someone from NC would be used to seeing ATVs on the road.

    • Tom Hagen
      July 04, 2014 - 01:13

      I am not sure where YOU're from, but we American DO use words such as, trainer and cash. Helloooo……. wake up!! And Gene is also used for a female, it can be both male and/or female. Besides that, unless you are in an upscale/high income town/city/neighborhood, one can and WILL find people who are at the bottom of the food chain, everywhere. Take what is good of a place and leave the rest.

  • Jeff Kendell
    June 01, 2014 - 08:10

    can't please an 'merican. I witnessed it in Germany and again in Dominican Republic. American tourists are the worst. Heard complaints in Punta Cana that the locals didn't speak English. Christ, most u alls done don't speak English well. In Germany overheard an American tourist gushing about how loved American tourists are. Wonder why many buy Canadian tourist kits for safer travel. They sew Canadian flags on their backpacks. As for checkout line ups, that is everywhere. I travel to the US frequently and yes it is there too. No wonder this article is written by an American. Rudest most self centered people on the planet. Then again I wonder if the article is even true after noticing the authors name, gene Poole. I will agree with though the disgusting garbage. Such a beautiful landscape and it baffles my mind that people clean their cars by chucking everything out the window.

    • lilyjean
      October 06, 2014 - 14:17

      I agree with you there. Like the thing is the Americans are known for rudeness. I find it odd that Gene Poole is a name. who would name they're child after a scientific definition? But it is true about litter, but take NYC or anywhere else in the world. Not everyone is a tree hugging non-littering hippie.

  • Darren
    May 22, 2014 - 02:43

    You take your problems and issues with you no matter where you go and that will always color what you chose to see and experience in any place you visit---seriously...ticked off about cues in a store?? How about getting out of the mall and going for a walk in the forest?

  • J
    May 21, 2014 - 13:42

    I would say 96% of people in the entire world are self centred and ignorant anywhere you go. Newfoundlander's are nicer to people from away than they are to each other....

  • Chris s
    April 30, 2014 - 18:39

    You just described any big city anywhere in Canada. I'm totally blown away by that letter and Elizabeth's reply..your the one person out 1000 people who don't like NFLD..the problem here is not Newfoundland , it's ye two . I'm betting there's very little of anything that would please ye.

    • Elizabeth
      May 02, 2014 - 16:19

      I'm afraid you misunderstand, Chris. My impression was that Alison loves Newfoundland, as do I. (Maybe I'll have to go back and read her message again!) There are some things that could be improved here (as would be the case anywhere, as you say), but perhaps it is a result of changing demographics. And maybe people in Newfoundland have been more stressed in the past 10 years or so? They might as well be, everyone else in Canada has been! Times are changing. I think that if Newfoundlanders want to maintain their reputation for kindliness and friendliness, they'll have to do like everyone else...try a bit harder. Here's an example: If I ask a Walmart employee (politely) where something is, she's likely to just look at me with no expression on her face, and then wheel-about and walk away without a word. I'm never sure whether to follow or run in the other direction! But I follow, and she points to the item and says, "It's on the bottom shelf, m'love." I hear "m'love' and I think, "Whew! She doesn't hate me after all!" Maybe a lot has to do with perceptions and misunderstandings? I still say nobody lets you pull out onto a busy road in front of them, though. Why is that?

  • Elizabeth
    April 29, 2014 - 16:12

    Good for you, Alison Mercer! I've read most of the comments, and I like yours the best. I have to say that Newfoundlanders seem a little too self-congratulatory at times. They are no better and no worse than the rest of Canada, really, although they could stand to practice a little more driver courtesy. I lived in Ontario for 50 years before moving here. Ontarians, as a rule, will always give you an opportunity to pull out from a side street or parking lot onto a busy road. You don't have to wait more than a few seconds before somebody waves you out onto the road ahead of them. It's quite consistent. That doesn't happen here, and I was very surprised. Maybe people here are not used to high-traffic situations? As for looking after those people who were stuck in Gander during 9/11...who WOULDN'T have billeted and fed those people? I'd bet that any Canadian community would have done that. It was a nice thing to do, I grant you, but it was the only thing to do. I'd like Newfoundlanders to think about being a little more considerate to one another on a daily basis. This is a beautiful, unique place, with some very kind people. We all need a bit of work to put that into practice, I think!

    • Doug
      October 06, 2014 - 13:47

      Do your research before spouting off. The passengers from 911 were all over Canada, not one place offered free accomidations, food, trips, showers, their homes, clothing, and tried all ways possible to make the surprised guests comfortable. It's called "The Internet" and you can find all kinds of information on it. "It was the only thing to do"! Baloney, do some research, see what they did in Vancouver and other places. Ontario is more polite then Newfoundland! Yes by'.

  • Rick Haggett
    April 25, 2014 - 07:37

    I visited Newfoundland for the first time in 2008. One thing I found out just like you see on the map, that Newfoundland is one big Island. I arrived in St. Johns, spent the night there. Then I caught the rust bucket as they call it, and headed over to the Bell Island where most of the Newfoundlanders here in Ontario are from. I find it strange that Bell Island is so small compared to the Main Land, yet the majority of Newfoundlanders here in Ontario, seem to be from there. Maybe when the woman is getting close to birth time, they grab the ferry and rush her over there to keep the family tradition going? I then left the Bell Island after spending four hours there and visiting the mines, the Green, Dickes fish and chips and a few other places. I then headed west towards Port aux Basque. I stopped in at all the main places like Corner Brook, etc. I went down the bumpy road to Harbour Breton on the south shore. It is here back in the late 1800's that my GGGrandfather settled and reared up he's family. I visited the little village that was old time Newfoundland the way I always understood it. I then went west to where you catch the boat to Nova Scotia. Then up to St. Anthony where the Vikings settled. I saw me first Ice Berg there and that was something. Gros Morn park is some big and the moose signs are everywhere. I then headed back to St. Johns for the night before flying home. There is a lot to see in Newfoundland and I know I did not see it all again. I want to go back this time with a Digital camera. I have many relatives buried there and I plan to find out just where they are buried so I can visit their graves. I found the people to be the same here as just about anywhere else you travel. Some have the old Newfie accent, while others talk what I would call normal without one. The old painted houses near the downtown are nice and you can see them on the TV with the commercials they have. Of all the Newfoundlanders I know here in Ontario, not one of them would go back there to retire. Reasons? Nothing to do. Bad memories growing up. Bad weather. Everyone they knew when theys was younger is either dead or up in Ontario. It is a changing landscape with the people in Newfoundland as many today even the younger generations have moved away to find work. The Island will always be there with all the memories still being taught by the locals and the travel people. The weather can change in the blink of a eye. Old Newfie holds he's fingers up to the sky and can tell the weather for the next day. I enjoyed the visit. If there is ever a province in Canada where someone will pull over to help you out should your car break down it is Newfoundland. Although this never happened to me, I have no doubts that one would quickly do so. In closing I want to say that I hope to get back to Newfie and see what I did not see the first time. The little fishing villages take you back to the old days. See you soon, By I do say..

  • Sarah
    April 23, 2014 - 17:25

    Sorry, so you did not like your visit to newfoundland , I do understand what you are saying. I am a Newfoundlander and I have been away for 40 years .. I just move back to my home town and understand what you are saying , I find the same thing pople will run you over so they can be the first in line ,a parking space or even let the door close in your face , you are right

    • Lucy Hodge-Corrigan
      May 14, 2014 - 13:17

      I was dumb enough almost five years ago to pull up stakes in Whitby, ON...and move to Carbonear, NL..where we bought a beautiful old Historic Heritage home...being used as a B&B. Our first 'friendly' encounter. A Fire Dept..whom I can throw a rock, btw, and hit the fire house....wouldn't do a 'routine' fire inspection. After two weeks? I upped the ante and contacted then Premier Danny Williams. This drove the MHA for our area, at that time, off his wanker head, so all of a sudden? Our signs disappeared off the TCH...the incorrect information was put on the Town Website...and in their "Tourism" brochures....and VOILA...then the final pummel...'The Town" decided nobody's allowed overnight parking on the street from Oct. to May....which we were told was OK when we bought the place. People are BEYOND ignorant...they come from "Old Money" that's been spent MANY, MANY centuries ago...and they think they're God's answer to humankind. I grew up on the Burin Peninsula....and I thought I was 'coming home'. HELL is friendlier than Newfoundlanders are...and Newfoundland itself....and for the love of GOD....do NOT buy a business here, because they LOVE selling you stuff...and then, squashing you like a BUG! And they've done the same to a man who bought an old Stone Building here...SEVEN years ago...and he paid a LOT for that....and is STILL NOT OPEN! Meanwhile, OUR 'retirement dream' is now a NIGHTMARE...we're broke....our savings are gone...we have NO income except a pension, to try and maintain a 6000+ Sq. Ft. "BUSINESS" and home...and those stupid SOBS expect us to pay "Business Tax" along with Residential????????? I told them..."TAKE ME TO COURT!" I am SO ashamed to say I'm a Newfoundlander...and what you said about the drivers is TRUE...I've almost been T-Boned FIVE times.....and it's the same in the stores....either they're blocking the aisles GOSSIPING....and won't let you by..OR they DO what you said in the lineups. I only hope to GOD that I get OUT of this NIGHTMARE of a life I'm living...but I don't see it happening anytime soon. And we were DEBT FREE, with savings....and NOW owe $175K.....because it costs over ten grand a year in OIL to heat this place....and with NO income from 'business'...YOU do the math! I RUE THE DAY MY FOOT TOUCHED NEWFOUNDLAND SOIL AGAIN! THIS is NOT the Newfoundland that "I" grew up in and PROUDLY 'ambassadored' when I lived in ON!

  • Peddy
    April 08, 2014 - 15:58

    Come on Telegram The letter is a hoax, A Southern-American named Gene Poole? Gene Pool its a joke. As in "he swims in the shallow end of the gene pool". Don't worry about it, someone's having you on. How do you hurt a Newfoundlander? Speak ill about their home. This person has caused a fuss just like they intended to. UBU don't worry about the rest.

  • rattled
    April 08, 2014 - 06:19

    I can't believe the comments I'm reading on the telegrams site. You'd think this was an internet forum nobody ever visits where people can make wild accusations about whatever they feel like with no moderation. The Telegram should be ashamed for allowing such dirt and hate to be publicly available. Disgusting to say the least. As for this "review" of our province... Are you kidding? This is laughable at best. Missus I'm sorry you had a rough time, but you didn't pick the best place to visit. If you wanted scenery you should have gone to Gros Morne, quaint towns you should have visited an actual outport community, and sipping tea on a deck, maybe you should have stayed home because here we drink beer and are proud of it. Bottom line, you messed up your vacation by not planning it what so ever. Next time get in contact with a travel agent who knows what their doing. Or don't come back, bcause after a review like that, we don't want you to.

    • Elizabeth
      April 29, 2014 - 16:47

      This is to 'rattled'..."Gene" is a man's name. I don't care if it's a fake name, it's a man's name. HE probably won't like being called 'Missus'. And why would you say that "...here we drink beer and are proud of it"? I can't think of a single reason why anyone would be "proud" to drink beer, so you can leave ME out of your remarks in future. I drink beer sometimes, but I brag about it never. It's not on my list of personal accomplishments. And I think it's a good thing that the Telegram does not interfere with free speech. Censorship in an open discussion forum is evil. If you've got a rational, well-considered point to make, then make it. If all you're going to do is vent your spleen, all that the rest of us end up with is your vented spleen. And it's no good to me.

  • hahaha
    April 06, 2014 - 17:50

    as a newfoundland who has been all over Canada and the usa. I am positive newfoundland is a better place to live then anywhere else I have been. this is the place to be. don't come back you wont be missed lol

  • Patricia
    April 06, 2014 - 03:01

    I think MrPoole needs a reality check. Regardless of where one travel in this world of ours , one will have a negative experience if one looks for it. You wasted your money sir. Not because our Island had nothing of value to offer but because you are to tainted by negative life experience to value it's beauty. Your loss . Paradise exists only if you are able to embrace it regardless of where you travel.My advice to you dear man is " Learn to smell roses " Blessings

  • Joan De Jode
    April 05, 2014 - 11:59

    Dear Mr. Poole, I am so sorry to read how disappointed you were with Newfoundland and Newfoundlanders. I was always under the impression we were all perfect. I guess that's not the case. If I was to visit North Carolina, would I meet people who are ALL courteous, respectful, friendly, law abiding citizens, always keeping to the speed limit, who put their garbage where it belongs, and never a hint of animal cruelty! I no longer live in Newfoundland, but I consider myself very fortunate to have been born and raised there, and enjoy my return visits. I really encourage you to go back, visit other communities, other than Conception Bay North, and then base your opinions on a more realistic picture of our beautiful province. Newfoundland is unique! and has much to offer in beauty, tranquility, history, laughter and pride. You are one visitor, with one opinion, but you're opinion matters to those of us who love Newfoundland to our very heart and soul. Do yourself a favour. Go back and tour the whole island. Truly Proud Joan Croke De Jode

  • PATRICK FUSK
    April 05, 2014 - 10:44

    Next vacation, visit DETROIT and give us your opinion.

  • NNW
    April 05, 2014 - 09:49

    Born and raised in NL is an honour to me . Yes there are good and bad "newfies" , but travel anywhere and live anywhere and you will see good and bad , no matter what the culture is , as no one is perfect . I now reside in Toronto and i can safely say that NL is one of the most amazing provinces . The 19 yearsive lived there ive only ever saw one animal getting abused, needless to say my father showed this guy what abuse feels like . As for speeding , really ? Go live or visit a province when one town/ city has over two million ppl living and you will see what speed is and would wish you had that ditch to jump into . People fail to realize that NL is not a rich , snobby , classy place but it def is a friendly , welcoming place .You make ends meet , you drive an old car !!! Its an island people , and im sure most the population has all kind of "toys " to ride on . Go to any small town in the world and they will be doing the same . As for ignorance in the gocery store ? That apaulds me because visiting back home after 12 years living in a city with over 2 million ppl,i must say going to the grocery store is a breath of fresh air . Everybody knows everybody and everybody talks to everybody saying go ahead my love or giving others a helping hand .It really amazes me that people live in a narrow box and are oblivious to other parts of the world . Myself travelling to other parts of the world and seeing how they struggle with no healthcare, no clean water to bath in or drink , not even a working toliet and some not even having shoes toput on there feet makes me appriciate where i come from even more . Yes there is crime in NL but please tell me where there isnt crime ? Just the other day here in Ontario a guy goes to the court room and shoots a cop .. people get shot here all the time and go missing everyday .little petty crimes in NL are nothing compared to what happens in the rest of the world .Im sure this person who put the review up wasnt as open minded as they should of been , yes they had a bad experience and thats aweful but vacations are what you make them . If you're going to be a sour puss and be so negitive then expect the worse and expect to write such a bad review . If u see travelling as an opportunity then opportunity will happen .Proud to be Canadian

  • Pauline Rockwood
    April 05, 2014 - 09:20

    I am saddened to hear of this person's 'apparent' unfortunate experience while vacationing in NL. I do want to ad however, that the gentleman might want to retract his comment on how NL ers treat animals. I make note here of his reference, and I quote, "apparently this area is also notorious for animal cruelty". If this gentleman does not know first hand and specifically of cases of animal cruelty, he should refrain from making such a statement. To do so is nothing more than hearsay and, in doing so, he has lost all credibility for his entire recounted dismal vacation story. I, for one, am sorry if this person did indeed have a less than idillic vacation but I won't be sad to see him take his future vacations, and 'apparent' storytelling elsewhere.

  • newfie
    April 02, 2014 - 13:55

    none of this is true about newfoundland or the newfoundlanders. The people you've come by are obviously not the caring newfies I know. Maybe visit a smaller community where most of the older people live, they're definetly not like the people you encountered

  • Angry Newfoundlander
    April 01, 2014 - 07:39

    DBrandon, you do know there are Newfoundlanders that see this comment right! Yeah! Including me! Newfoundland is everything to me! I wouldn't wanna be born anywhere else and be stuck up like you! At least were nice and friendly! I don't live in Newfoundland anymore and I hate everywhere else I go! A bunch of ignorant assholes.... Anyways you think we're stupid! We're some of the most smartest people in all of Canada! At least we know how to be friendly! That's the smartest trait anyone can have cause we can make friends! You can't cause your so ignorant! And your the one that's being stupid thinking were gonna put up with that comment... Think again! Have some respect for people that will be friendly to you! Have a nice day.....

    • Elizabeth
      April 29, 2014 - 16:26

      I'm sure the "Angry Newfoundlander" was a joke, since it was posted on April Fool's Day, right? If it was serious, I'd like to say that you're adding nothing to this discussion, Buddy. If the original article seemed critical of Newfoundland and Newfoundlanders, you've just given the criticism a firm foundation in fact. But I can't believe that was a serious post. You have to be kidding, right?

    • Mary Joy
      October 08, 2014 - 12:48

      I agree with you krista.and you know i never been in Newfoundland,but because of my bf story about NFL,i feel so excited and i cant wait december 2015 to come to visit st.john.my bf is an awesome person.he respect me i love him so much the way he cares for me.he is treating me like a little child.he told me the story about his childhood and he has a lot of good experiences during his childhood.their house is close to the sea and i cant wait diving into the sea at my bf's backyard.ILovedNFL!!! Negative People i hated so much!i think for me,it is because I am a friendly person,I do smile to someone without expecting to smile you back,but I understand that.I dont give any comment about it!because i believe that if you are a nice person,you belong to a nice people too.thats it!thats it!SMILE! NFL i cant wait to see you :-) i hope i will meet a friend also there during our visit.

  • Kailey
    March 31, 2014 - 15:47

    You might want to rethink your involvement with PETA if you truly do love animals... PETA only facilitates mass murder of puppies/kittens, dogs/cats.. instead of finding loving adoptive homes for them. You really need to do your research, and lover of animals would not have anything to do with PETA, who are any animal's worst nightmare! But in regards to the rest of your letter, I hate to say it but you have merely touched the tip of the iceberg.. NL is not what it used to be. People are stingy and cheap, rude and ignorant, loud and obnoxious, inconsiderate and selfish where they used to be known for being generous, polite, humorous, and always of assistance to both people "from away" and our fellow Newfoundlanders. I'm a Newfie myself and I have to agree with you. HOWEVER, that said, if you were to go around the bay, around Princteon, Summerville, Southern Bay, Charleston & Sweet Bay area, I can assure you that you would find exactly the type of true Newfoundlanders you would have hoped to meet!

    • Rotten Johnny
      August 28, 2014 - 04:55

      Wow, did a bunch of people from Toronto recently migrate to Newfoundland? Sounds like it.

  • DBrandon
    March 31, 2014 - 01:17

    Are you that surprised? Newfs are some of the stupidest and most inbred people on the face of the earth. They believe their beloved rock is the centre of the universe. In fact, it is a poverty stricken shithole that has been piggy-backing off the rest of Canada since it joined the union. Just look at the spelling and grammar that the newfs are using in their comments on here. Most of these folks' progenitors were probably not finding their suitors outside of the nuclear family. People from shitty places are always supranationalistic about the dumps they come from....

    • Sheila
      April 05, 2014 - 14:29

      I am a newfoundlander and trust me, your comment is worthless just like your grammer and spelling . If i stooped to your level I could spend 15 minutes proofreading your stupidity!!!

    • nancy
      May 20, 2014 - 16:23

      Your close-mindedness is disgusting. You're claiming that we're inbred and stupid but your the one who thinks that thousands of people in this province are all stupid. It's the same as anywhere, there are stupid people and there aren't. Just like here there are close minded people obviously as there is where you come from. You're no better than us so take a look at yourself before judging thousands of people you don't know. People like you are what's wrong with the world.

    • Sarah Ledrew
      August 13, 2014 - 08:21

      I find your remarks very offensive. Have you heard about all the oil found off our coast and the million dollar projects in Newfoundland and Labrador? And concerning stupid people, in my family there are two teachers, an air conditioning/refrigeration technician, an accountant, a pilot, a diesel mechanic, a power engineer and another one with a good position in a waste management facility- not sure of his title. I am almost 60 years old and don't consider myself stupid even though I didn't go to university or college. I admit that was stupid on my part. I don't ever brag about my family's jobs but I have to now after seeing your comments . You should have the decency to apologize for your rude remarks.

  • Wayne Moulton
    March 23, 2014 - 20:35

    All this and you are from where? I am from Halifax NS and lived in Nfld twice. It is a beautiful province and like other provinces, has its assholes. Nfld is almost 2 and a half time the size of NS and only has less than 500000 people across the province. Lack of policing is the issue here. I hope you will feel better back in the land of the slave and the home of the crack. The US is notorious for being ignorant as you have just proven. On behalf of all of Nfld ,Gwan witcha by.

  • Renee Coles
    March 16, 2014 - 11:20

    Guys, this person isn't from North Carolina. Your arguing with a fellow Newfoundlander. Americans don't say line-up as a noun. That don't spell Neighbor with a U. There are a lot of instances that show he didn't visit Newfoundland, he lives there.

  • Renee Coles
    March 16, 2014 - 11:15

    Guys, this person isn't from North Carolina. Your arguing with a fellow Newfoundlander.

  • Brenda
    March 16, 2014 - 10:06

    I just read this letter.. and some of the comments and I am so lost for words. How cruel people can be.. Breaks my heart. It is not only nfld that has these problems look around and visit other places and you will see how some are all painted from the same brush. I spent time in the states florida and also New York, drove through from Canada right down the lines and I am here to tell you that it was the most awful experience in my life. WE had just bought a brand new van and when we got to New York we broke down as soon as we got over the overpass from the bronchs. We called for a tow truck and we waited a good four hours or more for him to arrive.. When he came he was so rude. He took the truck and my ex asked him if he would drop us off at a hotel and he replied no he does not make it a habit of taking people in his truck.. When my ex told him we were going to call his company he than said he would.. He drove us around the corner and dropped us off at a sleezy hotel. I was so tired at the time that I did not realize where we were until we went inside and the guy that was the hotel manager was behind a barred window.. I was shocked when my ex told me that we were not staying because this was brothel hotel.. We left and we walked at least ten blocks till we came to the Belvedere hotel. Very nice... Than for the next week we were stuck in New York and had to deal with very rude people for the auto repair shop. So Gene it is everywhere that you will get a bad taste for the place you are in.. I know I am a very friendly person and I try my best not to judge anyone but it is so sad when you say hello to someone and they just walk by you as if you do not exist. At least I can say that although you have found your stay in Nfld a bad experience if you went elsewhere you would also pick up their defaults. And I know coming from Cape Breton and having family in Nfld that we are friendly and we do not mind having outsiders come in. We have a lot of germans and americans that has bought up a lot of our land. Some of us may not like the idea that we had to sell to outsiders but we know that there was no other choice. And I am not making this statement to offend anyone .. I am just saying that a lot of people that had to give up their land and move across country for jobs would have loved to have had to stay in their own province but circumstances could not allow it. As far as having a bad experience while shopping and standing in line welcome to the real world because that is everywhere and I mean right across the WORLD not just Nfld. So to wrap this up I am so sorry about your experience and I hope you will take the good that you must have found in Nfld and erase the bad because I am sure that in your own town of North Carolina you could say a few negative things .. so smile life is life and you cannot change the way things have become.. My felocity in life is go with the flow.. have a wonderful day.

  • FRED MARCH
    March 14, 2014 - 17:16

    Gene - Nfld is among the cleanest places on the planet - I know that for a fact. (have you been to NY city- ? it's filthy) as are hundreds and hundreds of other places in the good ole USA. Ignorance is something you will experience everywhere in this world, even in the good ole USA, I know that for a fact as well and I bet you know that too. For you to imply that Nfld. is full of, and that everybody drives old run down cars and trucks is far, far, far from the truth - the complete opposite is the actual truth. I don't know what part of Nfld you spent your time in. Seems to me there were a bunch of Hillbillies living in that small area of Nfld. Probably, the off spring of American Draft Dodgers who fled North and South Carolina way back in the 60's

  • Matt
    March 13, 2014 - 12:54

    You sound like your 95. People arguing is going to happen in any city. Smh, im still going to go visit and probably have a great time since im not a snob!!

  • Cheryl
    March 13, 2014 - 08:52

    Newfoundland is a very BIG Island consisting of smaller islands, I think if you really wanted "A true Newfoundland" experience than you should have visited the smaller rual areas instead of being so close to the Capital. Maybe you should have traveled more of the island before passing judgement.

  • GTK
    March 12, 2014 - 19:56

    Understand this... If you go to the US or Canada, people line up in order. If you go to Europe, no one lines up. It is a free for all. If you go to NL or experience a NL resident, no one is more entitled than they are. They call disabled or first class...da noofies get right militant. There will be a mob that will force their way through. If you have never seen this...go to any airport.

    • Deb
      April 08, 2014 - 18:02

      Agreed! I've never encountered people with such a sense of entitlement in my life. It's a rare occasion that I go to the grocery store and see someone who is disabled using a disabled spot or pregnant and using the "mum-to-be" spot. They park wherever they please. I also have to fight my way through Newfies crowding the gate when parents with young children are called to board the plane. This wasn't written by an American. It was written by a Newfie who knows exactly what's going on here.

  • Iva
    March 05, 2014 - 04:31

    CBS is basically a small suburb of St. John's. Suburbs can be just as hectic or even moreso than the city, in my opinion (and without the culture). If you want the "cottage life" getaway, try some of the truly far flung destinations around the south coast or Fortune Bay. Sorry your trip was such a bust. I've had similar experiences travelling around British Columbia. Thought nearly everywhere on Vancouver Island would be easy going, slow moving, with friendly faces but it didn't turn out to be the case. The ones that were or that even weren't really what I expected were worth it overall though. When a much needed trip turns into just stress, it is always disappointing. Hope you do decide to come back sometime. The "animal cruelty" thing you speak of. You may want to elaborate on that. I cannot say that I have seen this. We don't dress our dogs in Burberry sweaters ....I can assure you of that! ; )

  • Natalia
    February 23, 2014 - 10:19

    Lol I had every intention of apologizing to you for whatever reason it was you had that made your trip bad but it seems your awful pessimistic about the whole thing. My small town is very clean, and half the stuff you said about alterrain vehicles and stuff I just found funny to read, it's funny because your so shocked. Like oh my gosh look at that soccer mom driving sixty around the roads in a ol beat up Chevy truck. Hahaha you must re read this and see the humor I see.

  • Dianne
    February 22, 2014 - 19:05

    Well... First of all.. I have to ask you GENE... Did u rem. to keep all off ur Receipts from the purchases that you made here while you were visiting "OUR Terrible Province"? I can see that You werent Pleased with ur Visit, But I can Bit My Bottom Dollar.. you were pleased with ur little Treasures that u managed to take back home..."Tax Free"! Our Province is Very well know for their Hospitality . I am sickened to see that Just One Person who comes here to Visit, can go back home & make a complaint, dragging All of Us Newfoundlanders down! And for you to come back & say that all off us Newfies are up in Alberta... Steeling Jobs!! Sweety... Try rasing a family & living in Newfoundland ... There are families up there that wish that they could come home... BUT ..Thanks to Our Government & PPl like YOU they have to go away for Work.. We dont STEEL Jobs, We know what it is to Work, & thats why there are so many off us up there trying to make a better life for their families down here. Hey I have an Idea... "For ur Next Holiday" Rent a House In CHINA! Then come back on here & write ur Comments... You may get Published as a "BOOK"!

  • alison mercer
    February 15, 2014 - 23:01

    yes I am FROM nl and you have been the victim of tourism bs. nl is unique in the way any other place is unique. funny how offended people are by the truth . every single thing you said is true . and to the person who denied animal abuse ok either you are an abuser or you really have your head up yer arse so to speak., and this person said they met many nice people from nl so they weren't painting a bad picture they were being honest seems to me . well guess not everyone looks through rose colored glasses . I love nl but the people here are no nicer than anywhere else , no meaner either if you could measure, I am sure there are places in this world I would find very cold or formal but also places i could find super friendly and welcoming so places are different but humanity is humanity in the end . people do dump trash and litter everywhere people are often extremely abrupt and mean under the guise of being honest(not truth just petty and unproductive insults meant to hurt not help really ) and there is a lot of abuse of women too , very accepted in my experience and to deny these things is a lie nl has its share of issues social problems etc and very few groups to address these problems . no you are not living in a fantasy world you were just exposed to reality(how could we really live up to that myth of the most friendliest province in the world anyway really lol) and some of the comments directed at you are as petty and fantasy land as can be . there are surely good people and bad people here and in other places as well. of course it must be like that and would seem closer to reality of it all. and well how dare you tell the truth about your experience hey if you don't say all was perfect well I would say you are right not to come back as you might be lynched by an extreme group of patriotic very friendly and open to the truth newfoundlanders lol.. If your remarks were prejudiced or unfairly judgmental I would be defensive too I hate that kind of stuff with a passion and growing up in a small very our way or you are fucked, small minded town(of course not everybody ) maybe shaped those feelings for me . (and maybe all small towns anywhere are the same without the bonus of the natural beauty there was for me so I would guess worse yes . But it seems you just related your experiences, politely and oops they weren't all those silly nl tourism ads claim. and yes I love nl. guess i shouldn't have my real name here but I will . not so afraid anymore of the arrogant bullies who claim nl is perfect while beating their dog or raping their family if I may be even more honest. Not unique to nl either but it exists no doubt about it . peace oh and the town with horses and no stores sounds like a nice place to me even with only about a hundred people lol sounded like a comment from one of those stereotypical truly nice friendly Newfoundlanders you expected of everyone. no we are just people like everyone and of course you are going to find meanness spite ignorance and cruelty here . welcome to the world at large but also welcome to nl .

  • MotherGaia
    February 15, 2014 - 16:30

    It's because we have allowed ourselves to stoop to a low level conscience over a long period of time and as long as we are being polarized conditions will only get worse. Nowhere in the earth is *safe* from this and if a place seems like it isn't having issues it will soon as the difference between light and dark becomes more noticeable and we can actually reach the point of destruction. We are at the tipping point now and pollution is only a small part of it. That's just a physical excuse to distract us from what's truly wrecking the planet's eco system which is our way of thinking causing vibrations in the atoms to be arranged in certain ways that reflects who we are currently. Most of history it is usually the *10 percents* who have the greatest will power to change the course of humanity for better or worse. Now we are in a stagnant phase of humanity waiting for the next group of 10 percents that will either make conditions better or we will go past that *tipping point* in humanity overall and I don't mean the clothes you wear either.

  • Lindy Brophy
    February 07, 2014 - 23:02

    You're living in a fantasy world. I have travelled in many parts of your country. I choose to embrace the positive characteristics and experiences. There are smaller islands just for you. Consider buying one where you don't have to interact with people or society in general. In the meantime, before you hibernate for a few years on your own private island, take a couple weeks and explore your own state, NC. Maybe you will then realize the positive experience that could have been yours here in Newfoundland and Labrador. Be happy. Be thankful. You'll sleep better.

  • Frank Torres
    January 27, 2014 - 19:42

    Sounds like someone fell victim to false Tourism Advertising.

  • gordon white
    January 11, 2014 - 13:41

    I am from the island of newfoundland born there. left there in 1948 never have I gone back because of the outstanding price to go .we are the only Canadians that have to pay this price to visit the province we were born in .this is the reason I have never visited my own province (THE ISLAND OF NEWFOUNDLAND).

  • gordon white
    January 11, 2014 - 13:39

    I am from the island of newfoundland born there. left there in 1948 never have I gone back because of the outstanding price to go .we are the only Canadians that have to pay this price to visit the province we were born in .this is the reason I have never visited my own province (THE ISLAND OF NEWFOUNDLAND).

  • J
    December 30, 2013 - 10:40

    How can you tell a vehicle isn't safe for the road just by looking at it? Are you a mechanic?

  • JF
    December 16, 2013 - 05:46

    Hi, Mr. Poole and averyone else. I do not want to get into detail or long comments, but I just think that it is very wrong of Mr. Poole to stereotype an entire population, a whole province for that matter, based on a one-time-one place experience. Also, we should all learn to "look at ourselves in the mirror" before criticising; perhaps, your own hometown and/or homecountry has a few things, maybe a couple or maybe many of them, which it should not be proud about Mr. Poole?. I come from another country too, but I have not seen one thing nor have I experienced situations that I would have not seen or experienced back at home, in the same manner or maybe worse. I am an outsider and I must begin by remembering that before thinking that I have the right to criticise; nobody forced me to come here, and if I do not like it, I just leave, but I do respect the fact that I have been allowed to be here in the first place. Moreover, call me "lucky" if you want to, but so far I have found nothing other than wonderful people here. I would say, go Newfoundland and Labrador, go Canada, "hurray Canada" for you are a beautiful country, full of wonderful sites, cities, provinces and people. Thank you

  • Andy K.
    December 04, 2013 - 16:52

    We lived in Newfoundland for nearly four years, and a lot of things that Gene pointed out are pretty spot-on. People litter, abuse animals, and aren't courteous. People were often really selfish and customer service was awful. And when you criticize them, they turn it back around on you and say it's your fault for being so ridiculous and inflexible.

    • FRK
      January 17, 2014 - 03:34

      Yup and ....YUP!

    • melanie
      February 22, 2014 - 12:50

      They get very defensive if you say anything critical to the point of insulting you. This place will never grow or change if that attitude persists.

  • jc
    November 28, 2013 - 17:08

    Newfoundland is the only province in Canada where pedestrians are at fault if there was a collision involving automobile, which means drivers are automatically assumed innocent when they hit you. You have to provide proof to the judge that it wasn't your fault that you got hit.

    • Lisa
      December 08, 2013 - 06:31

      Hahahaha! Gotta learn to chill me son! You wanted natural newfoundland why pic a town outside the city? Next visit you seek for freedom try a tow with horses and population of 100. We've got plenty of them! But we warned no stores to speak of.

  • jc
    November 28, 2013 - 16:58

    Newfoundland is the only province in Canada where pedestrians are at fault if there was a collision involving automobile, which means drivers are automatically assumed innocent when they hit you. You have to provide proof to the judge that it wasn't your fault that you got hit.

    • Dan
      February 10, 2014 - 01:14

      You're actually completely wrong on that one, and I'm really curious about your source, and your motivation behind that comment. It's outlined clearly in the highway traffic act that pedestrians have the right of way. In the meantime, the justice relies on proof, so the part about needing to provide proof that it wasn't your fault is true, just as the same burden of proof falls on the driver. HOWEVER, in Ontario, this is not the case. Ontario is ACTUALLY the only province whose highway and traffic act does not REQUIRE motorists (or people operating any sort of vehicle, because somehow bicycles, skateboards, scooters, etc. all count as automobiles in Ontario) to stop for pedestrians at mandated crosswalks, or anywhere for that matter. If you carefully read the laws for all the provinces, you'll find you made an error, and I'm sure you'll be more than happy to retract your ignorant and misinformed statement. Cheers.

  • Anthony
    November 23, 2013 - 18:03

    I am sorry to hear about your bad experience in nfld ? i am from Ireland and have moved to a small community near Gander ,i have travelled quite a bit and i have found heaven here in nfld so maybe you should take another trip back here and really open your eyes and heart and embrace the people here as they did when 911 happened , nf is a great place to live and the people are great , like i have said come back and try it again but this time travel around and really get to know the island and the people , thank you

  • Sarah
    November 11, 2013 - 19:27

    Please NL is nasty - child rape and incest are RAMPANT. When you meet the victims, your heart breaks. When you hear about a mom scolding her husband to stop fondling the daughter in front of company or the neighbor kids, you feel a loss of hope. :-(

    • Wow...
      December 04, 2013 - 10:30

      Sarah I don't know what little hole you visited, but that's some nasty accusations to place on an entire people.. Sounds like you heard about some crazy family with major issues. Very ignorant of you to insist that all Newfoundlander's are like that..

    • Jessica
      December 10, 2013 - 21:17

      I am a newfie reading these pieces of turd (what comes outta butts) and I've never heard anything like this brfore. Did you know that we've been through hell and back? That we went from a have not province to a HAVE province? That if it wasn't for us, they wouldn't have discovered the big fishing place? Go on Google and look up what happened to us in 1990 when a lot of people lost their jobs, their ways of living because of the cod moratorium. If you ask how many people in Alberta grew up in Newfoundland there'd be a lot. Look up Newfoundland History, Captain Bob Bartlett, Signal Hill, Placentia, and once we were a Country, and 1/2 the pictures, we are smiling because we're happy. Look up Newfoundland songs, bands like Buddy What's his Name and The Other Fella's and Big Red Sea, and The Ones. Look up Peter Street, Saltwater Joys, and Muscles In The Corner. I'm a newfie, and proud to be. It's god awful what people say.

    • speechless
      December 14, 2013 - 18:38

      Sarah, I have lived in NL for 30 years and what you a speaking of is complete garbage. Not saying it does not happen but it is not rampant. Those horrible things happen everywhere.

    • Jamie
      February 15, 2014 - 12:59

      Lady where do you get your information , it's almost too outlandish to even comment on, how uneducated can one person be , wake up you ignorant human being

    • Jamie
      February 15, 2014 - 13:01

      Lady your uneducated and a extremely ignorant person!

  • Oisin
    October 30, 2013 - 17:45

    All of the comments here failed to notice that the name is 'gene pool'. I believe that this letter is a prank and is of no merit. I don't know why anyone would choose people quadding through their small towns as problematic. Just saying.

  • born and raised
    October 29, 2013 - 16:26

    sorry you feel that way everybody has their own oppinion about nfld you were better of going to the jungle seems you would have enjoyed it

  • Rebecca
    October 28, 2013 - 01:14

    I just stumbled across this article and I am shocked by it. However, the only comment that I can make is this - if this person thinks this about Newfoundland, I cannot imagine what they would say about the other provinces. In Newfoundland, it is a pleasure to phone the government, and be called, 'Honey' or "Me dear." Phone the government in other provinces and you can be certain that you are met with an abrupt person on the other end. My second thought when I read this article was this - did the person go to small town Newfoundland? Go out around the bay! Visit the outports! Don't spend your time in the mall - all malls all across Canada and the US are the same. Sad. . . sad. . . sad. I pray that Newfoundland is not like this!

    • Helen Campbell
      January 26, 2014 - 17:36

      Don't know where all this Crap is coming from.Newfoundland is Beautiful. I know Because I am from there.I have never seen Animal Abuse there and I love Animals. This Person Gene Poole should stay where she/he/it Belongs. She/he /It Really has a lot of Issues.Don't believe a Word Really!!!!! How Dare Her or He,,,Now North Carolina is Nothing to be Proud Off!!! Been there Moved On...I can see where this is Coming From. Ignorance is a Bliss..

  • hazel
    October 20, 2013 - 00:19

    Sad, I'm a Newfoundlander and it's all so true; I'm also an animal lover and the animal cruelty goes beyond any words that I can say. I have also met some beautiful people here who would do anything to help any of those animals & I'm so thankful that we do have them.

    • chergood
      November 03, 2013 - 16:56

      Yes - I have a dog that was rescued from that neck of the woods from terrible conditions. As a former farm kid - I am ashamed at the freaks in this province that seem to think it is ok to abuse anything - let alone a dog in a wire cage. Too bad they can't be put in one with their spouse, kids, ATV and hunting gun.

  • AYoungNewfie
    October 17, 2013 - 13:25

    You stayed in CBN? The CB area is considered one of the rougher areas, even to townies, such as myself. However it is not fair to completely and utterly judge Newfoundland and it inhabitants by your experience, that's just your biased opinion. Newfoundland is more rural than NC or most other places, and we are proud of that, if that upsets you, then sucks to be you, my ducky. Unlike up in the more urban places, land IS important here, there are people who make a living off of farming. Just because you overheard them arguing, and yes, Newfoundlanders have a colorful vocabulary, there's no denying that, it doesn't mean you know the whole story. As for animal cruelty, there's very little in NL, maybe once, rarely twice a year, some years there's none. Comparing this to other places, makes your point kind of irrelevant, majority of Newfs love animals, and I've never once heard of animal fighting or anything like that. The condition of our cars and drivers vary. Some people can't afford lambos, or Mercedes, some can't afford to get mantinence done, it's not your place to judge them, If their cars axel is squeaky, so what. That's extremely rude to judge. So coming from a 17 year old Newfie girl, it's not yours or anyone else's place to judge us. Once you had the mindset, it stuck and you viewed Newfoundland as a thing of violence instead of beauty and exploration. If you ever decide to come agian, we'd be more than happy to have you here, but try and view it differently. You'll never want to leave! --AYoungNewfie P.s. don't forget to get screeched in !!

  • Fred
    October 11, 2013 - 12:37

    Have you considered that you unfortunately picked the absolute worst part of the island to visit? Also, much of your rant involves you complaining about how things are different than where you call home. Why do you bother to travel if you can't handle change?

    • Sanne
      April 05, 2014 - 14:35

      No, the absolute worst place in Newfoundland is Grand Falls Windsor. There are more disrespectful unfriendly people there than in the rest of Nfld.

  • Cleary
    October 03, 2013 - 17:46

    I'm moving to St.John's in the new year, first time ever. It's interesting because I've heard polar opposite remarks about the place. The description above sounds like my rural home town in southern Ontario and many other ones I've been to. If bad driving and littering are the only problems, that sure will not deter me from visiting. I can't believe these topics are even noteworthy. Hilariously, whenever I visit the states the first thing that takes my attention is the amount of garbage blowing around the highways and streets. I think you may need to get out more.

  • Newfoundlander
    September 29, 2013 - 19:16

    1. Neighbors fighting? I didn't know that was something that was rarely experienced. You are silly. 2. Speeding vehicles? Well my goodness SOMEONES SPEEDING. Maybe like everywhere else in the world. 3. You must have a real hate for speeding vehicles. You are using speeding vehicles to make a point about Newfoundland being a bad place to be? That's hilarious. 4. Oh you have to avoid a car and go around it to get into a shopping center? THE HORROR. 5. People butting in line? Its just SO dramatic. Like when someone butts in line it just makes me want to write a blog about a province as a whole and bash them! 6. I would love to know how many small towns you went to. I'm from a small town out around the bay and its just lovely. Did you even leave CBN? I've lived in Newfoundland all my life and have never heard of animal cruelty. Even so, The amount here is miniscule to the amount that would be larger places. Its everywhere and can't be avoided no matter the place you go. The first mistake you made was thinking that you could escape the reality of the world by coming here. Everywhere is the same no matter what the people are like. You will always find and see the bad things because they will always be there. I suggest you come back. Go to a different community. Go around the province and learn more. You know nothing of the people that live here. And assuming that one little town makes up the whole of what Newfoundland is is even more ridiculous. I'm sorry you had a poor experience. But please stop making us all sound like horrible people. You are making it sound like we all beat our dogs and run over little children in the streets. We are good people and its a shame you didn't explore our wonderful province more to learn and see that. Kind Regards

    • gene poole alta
      December 08, 2013 - 00:01

      newfoundland should be nice and quiet, THEYRE ALL OUT IN ALBERTA WORKING AND STEALING JOBS

  • Siah Ali
    September 24, 2013 - 14:24

    I am an Immigrant came from India and live here enjoying diverse population, though small, with a sikh gurdwara, hindu temple and muslim mosque and feel no different from anyone else because of their friendly behavior and welcoming attitude, i think newfoundlanders live naturally and no artificial and show-off ettiquettes exist here thats why some one coming from some where far away from newfoundland way and style won't recognize it until he or she himself or herself hold atleast sense of those values (if not values) what newfoundlanders got... some one coming to newfoundland and going disgusted means something is wrong with tha person itself as surprisingly even self centered and egoistic people leave a bit changed after visiting newfoundland and its people, loveable and unforgettable people live in newfoundland.... LONG LIVE NEWFOUNDLANDERS it's people who make the place..

  • Siah Ali
    September 24, 2013 - 13:50

    I am an Immigrant came from India and live here enjoying diverse population, though small, with a sikh gurdwara, hindu temple and muslim mosque and feel no different from anyone else because of their friendly behavior and welcoming attitude, i think newfoundlanders live naturally and no artificial and show-off ettiquettes exist here thats why some one coming from some where far away from newfoundland way and style won't recognize it until he or she himself or herself hold atleast sense of those values (if not values) what newfoundlanders got... some one coming to newfoundland and going disgusted means something is wrong with tha person itself as surprisingly even self centered and egoistic people leave a bit changed after visiting newfoundland and its people, loveable and unforgettable people live in newfoundland.... LONG LIVE NEWFOUNDLANDERS it's people who make the place..

  • pat ebbitt
    September 21, 2013 - 14:45

    sounds like you are a miserable loner. for your next holiday you should go to a deserted island but I am sure you would complain about that too. Do the world a favor & just stay home with your miserable self. I have been to North Carolina-you have nothing to brag about.STAY up in the hills!

  • Bill Murphy
    September 21, 2013 - 09:40

    Good! Don't come back. Stay in NorthCarolina; be a self-righteous Yankee (oops, pardon me) red neck Southerner. I'm from Philadelphia, born and raised. There is no other place in this WORLD like Newfoundland.

  • Wildcovefalls
    September 18, 2013 - 22:27

    Some of you were wondering if this guy, Gene Poole of North Carolina was real or not. Well, I just checked for any names of Gene Poole in NC....and yes, there are several. I say to him, look in your own mirror and back yard before criticizing Newfoundland. Obviously, you seem to be looking for all of the negatives you could possibly find. Why dwell on the negatives? Look at all what is so good about our beloved Province. I wouldn't want to live in the USA if you paid me a million dollars. You talked about a few things that really irritated you. Well, what about the negatives in North Carolina? I forgot though, everything is just PERFECT there. Sorry, about my memory loss. Why don't you come back and visit Gros Morne National Park, Trinity, Bonavista, Twillingate, Fogo, and on and on I could go. Newfoundland is HEAVEN on EARTH compared to some USA cities. We can sleep at night, not having to worry about guns in every household. Eat your heart out, Mr. Poole! Maybe you should have stayed home, and tried to fix the wrongs in your own state.

  • Amanda
    September 13, 2013 - 21:21

    I just came across this by accident and I am so ashamed to agree with everything being said but it is all true. I live in st. john's but from labrador and I moved here years ago. Since living here in st.john's, I have encountered some of the worst people, worst drivers, and the lack of disrespect as mentioned is sickening. I love nl and I've been all over canada from bc to here living in most places for some time but never have I encountered such horrible people then I have in st. john's. Now not all are like this, but the majority that I have come across are. SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE.

  • Chris Van
    September 10, 2013 - 11:35

    There are rednecks of the type who don't give a f about anyone except themselves everywhere in Canada - except perhaps in a few major cities. City folks can drive just about anywhere in N. America and get riled by rural idiosyncrasies. Having visited NL twice, my experience was totally different - no complaints. I enjoyed the lack of 'nanny state' provisions, the lack of perfect lawns, the chaotic parking, the laid back service. And my family experienced the kind of generosity that is really out of style in urban centres. I didn't expect rednecks to have been legislated off the Rock. There's enough of them in Ottawa to preclude that. And yes, the letter is clearly a smear from a single-issue zealot - and probably one with a few obsessive compulsive 'issues' too.

  • Allen
    September 05, 2013 - 21:36

    Regarding the comments posted about the drivers, lineups etc. Many times I have found that some of the people in certain areas of the province seem to be in denial or find it hard to believe that these comments mentioned seemed sadly to be coming true even more so. Some areas of the province are now experiencing a growth like never before and of course with that progress goes the bad side along with the good. I think the problem with the drivers as well is that a lot of them just aren't road savy, by that I mean there's a certain nitch or art to driving, thinking ahead , positioning yourself out of possible trouble on major roads while driving before something happens etc. Many Newfoundlanders just don't drive a vast amount in a day or week to gain more experience behind the wheel over time. I am previously from Alberta and drove sometimes as much as 600 miles or more a day. With that much mileage under your belt you become atoned to the road watching out for the other driver to make a mistake and not assuming they will do the right thing. That in itself has kept me accident free for many years. All in all though the province is now progressing more economically and I would hope that Newfoundland can keep it's people's friendly attitudes alive and learn to cope with the coming changes it will face just as Alberta did in earlier years. I have lived here in Newfoundland 12 years now and have loved it.

  • a newfoundlander
    August 29, 2013 - 13:29

    i moved away in the mid 80's and decided to move back to my small outport town 2 years ago, boy oh boy was i ever in for a culture shock!! This province has not changed one bit in decades. Growing up here as a teen, we would sometimes go for a drive to the TCH just to kill time, you get to know the roads that lead to the TCH and you remember where all the bumps and potholes are. Well after 30 years have passed most of the same bumps and potholes are still there in the same place. I would have to say that the roads leading to outport NL are some of the most dangerous roads in this country. From what i see here in NL everything gets done in drip drabs.....heres a little bit over here for you my love....and yes my doll heres a little bit for you....here you go my sweetheart heres some for you too.......and we wil be back in 5 years to give you a little bit more. THATS THE WAY IT IS HERE........its time that this province catch up with the rest of the country.

  • Dennis
    August 20, 2013 - 12:22

    I am disturbed that our American visitor feels this way about our beautiful province. We are not all perfect like the "holier than thou" Americans that come to visit. I think they should look in their own back yards for a change and clean up their act before slamming others. All these self-proclaimed perfect people really piss me off when they come here and expect us to cater to their every whim. Maybe they should stay at home where everything is so, so called perfect. I have visited several American cities over the years and have seen many areas of these cities that are not so perfect either. Remember “those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”. Maybe your negative attitude would explain why you didn’t find the people in the area that you stayed friendly. And my last word on this is maybe the next time you visit someplace that you didn’t enjoy you keep your nasty opinion to yourself. Thanks

    • suanne
      November 21, 2013 - 11:56

      I have been to NFLD several times and I absolutely love it. Please do not lump all of us Americans in with your comment. I have never encountered an unfriendly person in all the times I have been there and have nothing bad to say about the Island.

  • xsfpns
    August 19, 2013 - 10:48

    The funny thing is I have lived in Newfoundland all my life and as I was reading the story I could relate to everything. It is shameful. I did wonder though, did this person visit all of newfoundland? or just the east coast. I believe this is more of a east coast thing. When I visit parts along the western coast of the island things tend to change.

  • Don II
    August 16, 2013 - 10:22

    The truth hurts and the reaction is to abuse the messenger!

  • canadafirstaid
    August 13, 2013 - 17:24

    The comments Gene P. made and all these over-reactions are what you may call 'crap'. Why? Because of the waste of time taken to write and read this 'crap'. Time well spent is watching "Honey Bo Bo", dem dar "Swap Boys" plus others similar shows via American TV. Now, dat dar's classy stuff. So, fire up the tely and learn how the other half live. Right? Right on. cfa

    • John
      August 15, 2013 - 04:17

      The author only scraped the surface. I have travelled near and far in the world and the thing that bothers me the most is the service in NL. There just isn't any! Most wouldn't recognize it because that's all they know, but Nl has absolutely terrible service to customers. Just go to any big box store in Stephenville or Corner Brook. In the small towns watch people open their car windows and clean out their car as they drive, leaving beer boxes and everything else on the side of the road and the list goes on. The author is right!

  • Whatryaat
    August 13, 2013 - 11:00

    I am proud to be a Newfoundlander and Love the beauty and potential this province has to offer. I am glad that my husband and I were able to find work and stay here to raise our family. Having said all of that, many of the things that Gene (real or not) mentions are things that I have discussions with people almost on a daily basis. The driving and the garbage mostly. I fear for myself and my children to cross the four lanes of Topsail Road even on a cross walk with a walk signal as I have seen so many close calls. Don't dare rush to get out as soon as the light changes because there are many cars trying to beat the light. There are days I fear being rear ended coming to a full stop at a stop sign as I see the car speeding behind me and frustrated that I actually came to a full stop. Other days I stress having stopped to let someone cross on a crosswalk and see a car about to swerve to go around me because they have to slow down. I think much of this is due to lack of enforcement. If people figure they can get away with it they will. We live in such a selfish time and people are so caught up in their own little world that they aren't paying attention. The number of people driving while on phones is still insane and definately a factor in the poor driving. I hate driving around after the snow has melted as the medians and corners are very littered with garbage. We all have a responsibility to play - I can't believe I still see folks throwing garbage out of their car windows. While there shouldn't be as much litter around the fact that there is calls for a better municipal clean up system. We all pay taxes and keeping our communities clean should be a no brainer. Government needs to come up with a better plan. Line skipping is also a beef of mine. If I see a cash opening I will always let the folks ahead of me have the opportunity first but often they don't get the chance because of the folks at the back of the line running over. It often depends on how the cashier deals with it. Regardless of all of these things I still love it here. There will be issues no matter where you go. Everyone has a bad day and I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt. However folks we will never fix things if we all walk around with our heads stuck in the sand and don't acknowledge the problems we do very much have here - it's not getting any better unless we all make the effort!! Remember to pay it forward and a smile can really boost another persons spirit!

    • Gotitright
      August 13, 2013 - 14:08

      Congratulations Gene Poole. You have stated things accurately and for that I am most appreciative. Newfoundland has had a major backward slide in the past ten years or so to the point of embarrassment. Where our once considerate, helpful, respectful and all around good-natured people have gone is a mystery to me. For some reason we find ourselves now surrounded by rude, inconsiderate loutes who are absolutely consumed with their own selfish interests and the saddest thing about it all is that plain and simply they just don't care. You have raised the ire of some whose backs have arched like camels to have someone from "away" point out our shortcomings speakes volums about themselves. May I saw that the disrspect shown every day in every way is atrocious and offends not just friendly visitors from North Carolina and other places but those of us who choose to conduct ourselves as our forefathers did much to their credit. What is going on now is mind boggling.....the disrespect at every turn; the highway driving; atv's going mad; shopping mall behaviour; litter (just see the boardwalk area in Bay Roberts in the morning or the streets of Spaniards Bay......sickening) ...One exception to the driving problems is Stephenvillewhere the most respectful ,knowlegeable and incredibly considerate people live. Thank you again Gene Poole. I have had the pleasure of visiting your beautiful state and found it to be a most friendly clean and courteous plce to visit which I plan to do again. You have done our province a great favour by bringing our shortcomings to our attention. Perhaps the mayors of St John's and Conception Bay North will heed your well thought out piece and the comments given.

  • Troy Lingor
    August 12, 2013 - 21:52

    Sorry but I live hear and have literaly visted every town and plce in mewfoundland and trust me it nothing like that Gene this is home to me and a lot of other and some who move here for the pure beauty of this island you don't need to start bad rumors about this island its an amazing place and you need to take in what you got thanks

    • Dean
      August 15, 2013 - 21:49

      Im with gene pool 100 percent and im q newfie who lives in newfoundland people think there too good is the problem and wants to be taken down a notch and anyone one who says different is lying who u tryin to kid

  • John Verville
    August 12, 2013 - 15:45

    So sad to hear comments like this...I suggest you spend your money visiting places like Boston where my mother was born or Detroit where I had the displeasure of visiting a few years back. Here you can take a walk at night and enjoy the fresh air wearing jewelry or leave your car parked on the street and come back with all 4 tires still in place! I understand some of your comments were adequate but every province or state has to deal with idiots...Had you taken the time to admire beauty this province has to offer like the Northern Peninsula which I consider one of the top 10 wonders of the world, or have a conversation with some of countrymen and women who were amazed by the hospitality they received during their 9/11 stay, maybe being served out of turn at a store would not be such a big thing after all and showing how it's supposed to be done would serve as an example but, to use this as a detriment to come here..... As for you people borned here and approving those comments, you should take a good look at yourself in the mirror to see if you have any backbones left!

  • I AGREE TOO
    August 12, 2013 - 12:12

    I lived in Ontario for a dozen years or so and came back "home" because of my job. I was also appalled with the way we as Newfoundlanders treat each other when I came back from "away". I could not simply drive somewhere without getting upset, now I have just come to accept the rude drivers here. Sadly, I have also become a rude driver to fit in with the "local crowd". This place is a downer when it comes to public interaction, unless you are intoxicated.....which I guess explains George Street's continued success . Maybe we should start a new magazine called the "Homedowner" for us folk that agree with Gene Pool. I was once proud to be a "Newfie", now I am just proud of where my family comes from, the old school fisherman who was a proud honest and respectful hardworker that helped his fellow man. Now we just try to step on each other here, a disheartening dilemma we have created in this society. For the people that don't agree with Gene, maybe you should go spend sometime "away" and step out of the bubble you live in. This place is not the "friendly" place that it was before. Courtesy and respect for others went the same way as the fishery, down the tubes. Ignorance is bliss as they say, if you don't know the difference, then you might think this place is really great.........NOT!!!!!! I think I'll be moving back to the "mainland" as well one of these days and maybe I can drive from point "A" to "B" again without having to curse my fellow man for his ignorance and stupidity.

    • david jones
      August 12, 2013 - 21:21

      In many ways, I must agree with some off the comments shared by Gene Poole. I moved back to the province after 14 years living "up-along". I too have been taken aback by the attitudes of people in my out-port. I am referring primarily to the under 30 crowd; entitled, self-centered, socially inept and uncaring. I could tell stories that most people would not believe as they seem so far-fetched to be true. Can you imagine someone calling you a pedophile simply because you are openly gay? Can you imagine a group of colleagues dumping you off on the side of a road while you were having a severe asthmatic and allergic reaction and then not even contacting a member of your family? Can you imagine being labelled as unfit to work in a preschool setting because you are a single mother of three? Can you imagine your 16 year old daughter being asked why she applied for a job in a community that was not her place of residence? Can you imagine being served a notice to appear in court on a peace bond application because you spoke during a public forum and your ideas and opinions were then labelled as being threatening.? All of these scenarios may seem absurd, but unfortunately, are true. Well my fellow Newfoundlanders and Labradorians; welcome to our new reality! We have succumbed to the capitalist way. We are a "have" province. It is too bad that adhering to the golden rule is not included in the definition of being "have". The sad truth is, we have simply "caught up" to a world which is motivated by nothing less than self-satisfaction and personal gain. Us "Newfs" have joined the club! Long live capitalism!

    • Shar
      April 05, 2014 - 16:59

      I left Nfld a few year back. It is absolutely the best move I've ever made. This writer is talking about the east coast but he hasn't experienced attitudes in Central Nfld. I would describe this area as snooty, unfriendly, ignorant, disrespectful, boring, and attitudes of it's just too much trouble. The small businesses run the towns. I guess that's why very little has changed in 20 years or more. I NEVER promote Nfld as a place to vacation. Nfld businesses soak tourists.

  • C roses
    August 12, 2013 - 09:34

    Well I am sorry " Mr. Poole" experienced the things he describe. yes what he stated I am sure is true. I live here and experience these things on almost a daily basis. However I try to do my part and pick up trash from those left behind on my walks etc. please do not paint all with the same brush. On the contrary ....most are not . I bet of he sat down to write his story from the other perspective he would have come up with 10 positives for every negative he described . "What you want to see....is what you are going to get " wake up and smell the roses ....mr Poole. The world is in a mess .......someone skipping a grocery line is moot!

  • Anonymous
    August 12, 2013 - 08:39

    Honestly, I have lived my whole life in Newfoundland and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Everywhere you go, you're going to run into problems- no place in the world is perfect. I'm sure if I went to North Carolina there would be some things I could complain about. I think you should have kept your feelings to yourself and not attack Newfoundlanders the way you did. It makes me feel like everything was my fault because I live here when it could easily have just been your negativity that "ruined" your trip. There are some very kind and generous people here, it just takes the right person to find them.

  • Rhoda Breede
    August 11, 2013 - 22:24

    If I defend myself I am weak.

  • Labrador and Proud
    August 11, 2013 - 17:52

    I understand how you feel Gene Poole, most of Labrador feels the same way!

  • California Pete from NFLD
    August 11, 2013 - 14:38

    Hep - Hep - Hurray. So right Gene Poole I am all for what you stated. So true.Oh yes so true sorry to say. I have been goen for over 50 years and only been back twice and I have no intentions of returning. It is a mess, filthy, and unconsidered, un polite people and a drivers nightmare. Thank you for your artical I never had the guts to write it that way as it IS TRUE

  • Reflections Onus
    August 11, 2013 - 13:17

    The writer from North Carolina got it right. We have been on a rapid downward slide this past ten years so much so that our forefathers would be shocked to see what has happened. Generally speaking,no longer are we the kind, helpful, caring people we once were but are now the outrageous obnoxious society described in the article. This did not just recently happen but is a reflection of a new society whose god is the almighty dollar......elders are no longer respected and the expression "old school" implies something outdated and out of touch with the new techno age....the much wants more insatiable quest and at any and all costs is what is pushing this societal decay. People will run over you to get it at outlandish speeds because you are invisible to them. A mirror on our province was held up for us to see what we presently are and the sight is as shocking as it is absolutely true. A new expression these days is "nobody cares any more" and it is a sad commentary on where we have slid....for the most part we are absolutely a bigoted and intolerant people. We feel it is perfectly fine for us to be able to go out of province to find work but absolutely hard done by if people from outside the province come here to acquire employment. Anyone coming to live here from away whether or not they were born here and are now choosing to return are without question treated with contempt and suspicion, more a reflection on our own view of ourselves rather than any shortcomings on the part of newcomers. Yes, I can speak with authority having lived away and was welcomed there and not treated with distain. Fortunately I was able to return to this beautiful place to create a job for myself and raise a family. We need to examine our attitudes towards others and make adjustments. We are not under attack from others.........we are our own worst enemy. The province is with doubt a specular scenic paradise whose inhabitants for the most part have lost touch with its moral, tolerant, and admirable roots. To view the feedback of those whose backs arch like a camel's and bristle at the truth speak volumes regarding their "high water mark" of social conduct. Perhaps some of them are those who litter the sides of the street immediately after people like myself and others pick up the most recent dumping of coffee cups, fast food containers, empty cigarette packages, drink cans and bottles, and insta-win lottery stubs. North Carolina is a beautiful place too. Perhaps those who haven't done so should visit that state and perhaps it can be a place to start the climb back to a more admirable society once the envy of those from away.

  • CathyS
    August 11, 2013 - 12:52

    I am proudly married to a Newfoundlander. Due to work, he had to move away15 years ago. I have been to NL many times, coast to coast. My husband is from the Avalon and we love it there. If I was looking for the experience the author initially was (small quaint shops, quiet solitude, etc), the West coast, especially Gros Morne area would be my recommendation for mainlanders. I do not believe the author was looking to degrade Newfoundlanders or lump everyone together. I believe he was simply stating his experience. Perhaps if he had done his homework/research, prior to leaving on his trip, he may have chosen a different part of the island. In my opinion, and whilst I believe he had a less than perfect experience, I think stating that he will NEVER be back due to one experience, is sad and misguided. However, he is entitled to his opinion. I have travelled many parts of the world and lived all across Canada, and without bias, I maintain NL to be one of my favourite destinations for the experiences I seek. Are ALL Newfoundlanders friendly? No. (in fact my MIL, born and raised in Central, will proudly will tell anyone, that she is NOT a friendly Newfoundlander!) Are ALL Americans pompous, rude and arrogant? No. There are exceptions to any place. To ALL Newfoundlanders, be proud of your heritage and your wonderful province. Leave any defensiveness at the door......You are better than that!

  • From one Coast to the other
    August 11, 2013 - 09:10

    We moved to St Johns 3 months ago now, and have been enjoying our time here. However we too have noted a few things that were less than desirable about our new home. We come from a busy city out West, with a much larger population and more traffic than here. However the way people drive here is alarmingly terrible. As Gene noted these are not kids and 20 somethings driving this way, these are adults! I saw a middle aged woman come down the hill, rounding the corner, tires sqealing, with a light and crosswalk right in front of her that she totally ignored. This could have easily been a fatality for someone walking there. It made me shutter to think someone could have been crossing that road like a mother with her children perhaps!!. This is not a one time ordeal either, we point out the terrible driving habits here daily!! As both drivers and pedestrians we have witnessed this on a regular basis. We love you Newfoundland, you have much to offer, and for the most part the people are friendly and kind. You will find bad and good where ever you travel, and we are both well traveled, and find a generally kind population here. However the driving is not good. So Bad in fact that it was the first thing to jump out at us upon arrival. Disgraceful actually, as it is a matter of time before someone else dies due to shear negligence and disregard for traffic laws and speed! Slow down already!! We live in a residential neighborhood and people drive through here like it is the TCH! Where are the police to patrol this problem, maybe cameras on lights would help slow this down?? Time to wake up to this deadly problem St. Johns. I thank Gene for writing this letter and bringing this particular problem (and others), to the forefront as it is something we deal with daily here, and have grown very intolerant of.

  • Snidley Whiplash
    August 10, 2013 - 17:48

    My wife is a Newfoundlander and you could not ever get her to go back to the place.

    • dakota
      August 26, 2013 - 11:54

      and with a name like whiplash who would want her here anyway.All you Mainlanders and people from the U.S A. are just jealous of our beautiful province,

  • NewfieBoy
    August 10, 2013 - 14:41

    I could not agree with Mr Poole more !!! I have lived in NL all my life and to behonest NL should be divided in half. East of the overpass and West of the overpass. Unfortunately for Mr. Poole he visited the wrong half on NL , the eastern half of the overpass. For some reason , and it starts with the politicians , those East of the overpass feel they are ENTITLED to everything NL has to offer. Well guess what YOU ARE NOT and NL actually starts west of the overpass. True genuine and caring people do exist in NL and if MR Poole had visited this side of the overpass he would have felt the same way. Its unfortunate he now heads home with a sour taste in his mouth. Its time for the attitudes in the BIG City to change and it all begins with those at the top. TIME FOR A CHANGE NL !!! if not pretty soon , no one will want to visit our beautiful and friendly (outside the overpass) province !!!!!

    • Ron
      August 12, 2013 - 10:02

      To Newfieboy, Your rant against St John's was far from justified as Mr Poole visited WEST of the overpass. I believe he stated a community in Conception Bay North, meaning the Bay Roberts area. Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, because he is talking about YOU.

    • NewfieMan
      August 12, 2013 - 12:57

      @NEWFIEBOY. I do believe Mr. Poole was staying in Conception Bay North. Now ... if my memory serves me correctly ... waiiiiit ... yup, there it is on the map ... West of the overpass/outside the overpass/the beginning of Newfoundland and Labrador.

  • EX-Newfie
    August 09, 2013 - 17:22

    backfromaway, I agree 100%. When I left newfoundland 10 years ago, I thought Newfoundland was the best place in the world to live. Now I could never imagine living there with people who want to cut you down if you are doing better then them. Heaven forbid, you do well for yourself. In my Opinion, alot of the people in Newfoundland are some of the worse I have ever met and known in my life. The province may have beautiful scenery but the people make it a terrible place. If it were not for people trying to keep others from having what they do not have , newfoundland would be a lot farther ahead. As for animal cruelty, probably the worst place in canada, if not North America. So many people keep dogs chained on outside, it is deplorable the conditions some animals are subjected to there.

  • Pam
    August 09, 2013 - 15:27

    I share two of the complaints that Poole made- one that small children are driving noisy ATV's on my road and it is allowed by the police. The second is that squatting on privately owned land is quite common here and there appears to be no law or protection against it- I have someone practically in my kitchen now who is steadily appropriating my land as I am away for 10 months every year working (I am only here in the summers). My cousin had someone build a house on her land when she didn't return for two years. We have both been forced to initiate cases in the Supreme court to recover our property that we both legally purchased. Apparently if you don't stand guard over your property in NL it is communal and anyone can move in and you get to pay 10 to 20 thousand dollars to remove them. I have never heard of this anywhere else except the wild west.

  • Jack
    August 09, 2013 - 13:28

    Newfoundland is the most beautiful province in Canada. However, everything said in this editorial is true. I am not originally from here (St. John's) and it was immediately clear that this is not a friendly place. After a short period of time it became clearer that a lot of people in this city have a a very entitled, impatient and discourteous attitude. I spend most of my time out here enjoying the beautiful nature this province has. I was lucky enough as well to meet some honest, good, warm, caring people the likes of which I have never met in my travels. I was also lucky enough to have meet an absolutely wonderful Newfoundlander woman who defines everything people want to believe the people of Newfoundland are like. She also comes in a beautiful package. Her alone will always make me love Newfoundland and I will always support Newfoundland and will always encourage change for the better.

    • Dan
      August 10, 2013 - 11:17

      It is always difficult when our initial impressions of a chosen vacation spot fail to meet expectations. While "Gene" makes some relevant points, he is off base in some of his concerns. Allow me to address these one-by-one. 1. Neighbours may argue anywhere on the planet. This is not unique to Newfoundland, and not a reason not to come here. 2. All-terrain vehicles: Newfoundland lifestyles are based in the outdoors. Hunting and fishing is huge, and trail access through towns is tolerated in small communities, though it is not acceptable to drive dangerously or to drive without intent to access the trails. ATV use is quite rampant in many small towns in the US as well. Not unique to Newfoundland and not a reason to never come back. 3. Speeding cars: I have travelled the world extensively and have been in worse places in the US. Crazy drivers are everywhere. We are not unique as drivers. 4. Cars in the fire lanes: I fully agree. Ticketing and towing has got to happen, however this is petty as a reason never to come back to Newfoundland. 5.Discourteous shoppers in the store line-ups: True, people at the front should be the first to go to a newly opened cash, but I have seen this in the US too. In fact, I have seen door-crasher sales where people get into fist fights over merchandise, and trample each other nearly to death. This is a US phenomenon. I have never seen the like of that here. Again, the line-up thing is a petty reason never to come back. 6. Litter: True. This bugs me too, but I have been in many clean NL municipalities. It is up to each municipality to initiate policies that ensure a clean environment. I was recently on a trail in Harwich, England which was littered with garbage. There was also a sign nailed to a fence (posted by a disgruntled resident) complaining about all the dog excrement. Bottom line: Newfoundland is no worse than anywhere else. All places have their good and bad points. The points Gene made pale in comparison to the problems I have seen in the US.....try not to get shot in your local McDonald's Gene.

  • T. Sleeveen
    August 09, 2013 - 11:23

    To all you whiners who dislike NL, leave and don't come back. If these complaints are your biggest worry , then you have nothing to worry about. I've lived here all my life and have not run into the people you are talking about. Yes, there are issues with some people, but if your saying where you came from is better, you are dillusional. Go back to your perfect little town and contribute to your own "Gene Pool" At least come up with a better name.

  • John McLean
    August 09, 2013 - 11:11

    Whether Gene Poole exists is a moot point. I agree that action needs to be taken. First, the garbage along our rural streets/schools/shopping malls, etc. is disgraceful and should be picked up by town or municipal crews, or even volunteers or students. Second, there needs to be greater enforcement and improvement of ATV laws - these machines are loud and smelly with no mufflers and anti-pollution emissions. There used to be a time in rural areas when you could open your windows in the evening and the only noise was the ocean!!! This is a wake-up call everyone.

    • Anne
      August 09, 2013 - 11:59

      John McLean, I am very proud to be from Newfoundland and I love everything there is about it, but I agree with what you said, it doesn't matter if the person is real or not, you did forgot one big thing, the drivers. Whether we like it or not, it is the truth. And yes, every city has drivers that go through red lights, through stop signs, and speeds, BUT, there are MORE laws broken in NL than anywhere where I have lived or been. As my brother said, the red lights and stop signs are only a suggestion in NL. The first instinct is for us to get defensive and write nasty things, but before we do that, why don't we hear from people that speed, go through red lights and stop signs. Are you in a life threatening situation where you need to get to a medical facility???? OR do you think you are on a raceway OR is it that you can't stand the fact that someone is ahead of you???

    • Daisy
      August 09, 2013 - 14:09

      Mr. Poole, come back and go beyond the over past, you are sure to experience everything you wanted for your relaxing vacation.

    • p.spears
      August 09, 2013 - 15:06

      I have also experienced the joy of a small child riding back and forth on my road on a motorized ATV. I thought that the law said that a driver had to be sixteen years old to do this. It does drown out the sound of the ocean and inhibit any thinking or peace. Also if you leave land that you have purchased for your use for any amount of time you are likely to find a squatter on it when you come back! There appears to be no law or respect for other people's boundaries literally here! The first commenter is telling the truth!

  • Kathleen
    August 09, 2013 - 07:37

    I agree with everything he said. I daresay he's not the only CFA to experience the likes of this, but probably the only one who posted it. My apologies Mr. Poole.

    • PaulNorthRiver
      August 09, 2013 - 10:21

      I cannot believe that people actually think this letter is from a tourist named "Gene Poole" . To me, it is obvious that this letter was written by a resident pretending to be a tourist for added impact. And I'm not the smartest one in the gene pool.

  • Colin Burke
    August 08, 2013 - 17:48

    I for one do much hope the day will never come when Newfoundlanders will refrain from quarrelling even over land ownership for fear some tourist will overhear them and be upset.

    • David
      August 12, 2013 - 18:35

      Paul N., whether it is a real name or not is a moot point. I have to say that for many years my wife and I have had the same experiences. Be it litter tossed everywhere, or atvs almost everywhere and it seems any time of the day. As someone else posted earlier, it seems to have been a long time ago when I could open a couple of windows in the house and NOT hear at least 1 usually 2 off in the "back 40". Yup, many of his concerns I have seen and heard. Can't say I didn't toss a cola can out the window when not on a main road..

  • C Eastman
    August 08, 2013 - 17:20

    The writer Mr. Poole, makes a lot of true observations, and like the commenter Backfromaway, I agree that Newfoundlanders should really wake up to certain negative habits too many people seem to have here. But first of all, let me address the animal cruelty Mr. Poole mentioned. I am not so sure what he meant by that in his letter. Was he referring to the seal hunt, which is as humane as his neighbourhood slaughterhouse, and probably more humane. If there are incidents of animal cruelty, like there unfortunately is everywhere, then those found guilty ought to be brought to justice. Ok, on driving habits.. Yes, here in St. John's itself, drivers are constantly breaking the laws.. going through red lights is an hourly occurrence. I see it constantly and have witnessed accidents in front of me. Many people do drive like savages, they will pass you about 15 km over the limit, and then take the next right turn 200 feet away to a shop. Never, never take a green for granted here folks. It is the worst I have seen here in 30 years. On littering.. Yup, you got it Mr. Poole. However, for the most part, most people are pretty conscientious about keeping the area clean, and reclcling is on the increase. But, there are too many just lazy and inconsiderate folks around who will dump everything from household garbage (Middle Cove lookout today), to car tires (near the roadside on the way to Cape Spear), to bed mattresses (by the pond near the old ski hill, on the way out to the Marine Lab). It is the heights of inconsiderate laziness and irresponsibility. Every level of society here, communities, schools, governments levels, business, individuals and media need to stress pride in our place, and remind the public to do their own part, but also to remind those who are caught, that they will be charged, and also suffer the stigma that comes with this behaviour. On "friendly" Newfoundlanders, well, there are friendly and unfriendly people everywhere.. We do not have any more than most other places.. As a matter of fact, you'd swear that so many drivers were out to get you. It is a myth, but it does not have to stay that way. Our whole society needs to simply learn to drive, be courteous on and off the streets, and have some more pride in where they come from. It is a lesson to be learned. There is no perfect society here or in North Carolina, but at least we can and should try to improve things that are currently not good. As many others have also said, having said my piece, there is a wide amount of beauty in our province, history, fantastic beaches, hiking trails, parks, coastal scenery, and mountains, not to mention many pretty towns and communities. So Mr. Poole, thanks for your observations, and you're welcome to come back again, and feel free to check out many other places, in addition to the otherwise beautiful area you previously stayed.

  • Allan Campbell
    August 08, 2013 - 14:24

    I never put any stock into comments from people who are afraid or ashamed to use their own names. A lot of what he/she said is true...but same as when I went Europe and US....I didn't judge the country on a few pre-conceived notions. When you say this place has a reputation for animal cruelty; remember; it is everywhere...and less animals are tortured and killed than people in your country. We welcome constructive criticism; but, coming from one of the most hypocritical organizations anywhere....stay away and tell your PETA friends to stay away.

  • Roy
    August 08, 2013 - 14:13

    I am American I lived at Pepperal afb in early 6os I returned for vacation in 2003 and loved every minute of it. 10,000 americans being killed every year at gun point.... Well it helps for a better Gene Pool!!!!!

    • david
      August 11, 2013 - 15:54

      On a per capita basis, I'd guess more Newfoundlanders die from being stupid than Americans do from guns....driving something while drunk (our provincial sport!), being morbidly obese from Tim Horton's and Jigg s Dinner and dying of heart disease, or cigarette-caused cancers. We just get neither the media coverage, nor do we ever clue-in to our own, stupid reality. Et voila....

  • Debbie
    August 08, 2013 - 14:12

    I am also a native Newfoundlander, and I am embarrassed by the nasty feedback that Gene is receiving. Wow!!!! I think the first thing we should note is that Gene's letter was not written in a malicious way. Gene, in a clear and concise manner, described the difference in what was expected and was actually experienced. He/she did not use nasty language or stoop to name-calling. I, however, cannot say the same thing about the Newfoundlanders who responded. Shame on you all. I see this as Gene trying to help the island and it's residents. Newfoundland and Newfoundlanders are NOT living up to our image!!!! So, get over yourselves, stop bullying the tourist, and smarten up!!!! The next thing to note is that Gene did not say that the comments applied to everyone or every place. Gene even stated, "I know that what I have experienced does not apply to every Newfoundlander. And, for those of you that are good, decent, friendly people, who are courteous, good to animals, and drive by the rules, then I am sorry that your fellow inhabitants are ruining your reputation". Did you all skip that part of the letter???? Also, Gene never, not even once, said that N.C. was a better place than here. You all put those words in Gene's mouth. Take a minute to think about this - maybe that is why Gene came here for holidays - to get away from that same crap that is back in N.C. But, unfortunately, Gene saw that it is now around here in our province too. I, for one, would like to apologize to Gene and any tourist that has experienced the awful side of Newfoundland. I also thank Gene for bringing it to everyone's attention. One final note, fellow Newfoundlanders, everything that Gene said in the letter is 100% fact. Open your eyes people. Newfoundland is riddled with problems and issues - major problems and issues. There are even more I could add to Gene's list, but rather than bring them up here, and have all of you continue to embarrass yourselves, I'll shut up now. I think it's time I also got out of here!!!!

    • t maddox
      August 08, 2013 - 17:57

      Gene's opinion is well founded - I am a proud Newfie, but I have seen everything he relates. I live in a small rural CBN town - maybe the one to which he refers, and i can't offer a rebuttal to his words. The Garbage is ridiculous - Just get out of your car and examine ANY ditch along any road or highway - Cans pop bottles or nevada tickets and coffee cups or alcohol beer cans are everywhere. Speed is the word - ATV's are everywhere and people cut in line - Just drive the CBS highway any day - I like our folks - we are friendly - but things are changing - St John's is #4 in Canada in violent crime stats .... wake up people -

    • sanne
      April 05, 2014 - 15:38

      BRAVO, you certainly said that well. Newfoundlander's do not want to hear anything but positive about their province. That gets less likely to happen each year.

  • Sean
    August 08, 2013 - 11:07

    Yes, because Americans are so kind and caring and mannerly!!!! Whatever!!!!! He lives in a country plagued with gun violence and drugs, murders, etc... If we are as he states, I would rather be this way than the way his country is, anyday.

    • Elite MtPearlian
      August 08, 2013 - 11:42

      This letter was obviously written by a disgruntled Newfoundlander as 'only' another Newfoundlander would understand 'in what context' to write such a letter in the attempt to make us feel as ashamed as possible. Also some of the key points are either entirely fabricated, or are things that only 'other' newfoundlanders would actually be able to refer to in our daily lives and not something that a 'tourist' would particularly notice or pick up on. Don't worry people. Aside from 'ourselves' and maybe a few in Alberta, the world still loves and respects us.

    • Kent
      August 09, 2013 - 08:53

      @ Elite MtPearlian... Who are you? Sigmund Freud?? The author of the letter is is simply just another person who observed what everyone from outside of this backward place observes when they come here.... The only difference is that he choose to write about it...Oh, and by the way, "Elite MtPearlian" is an oxymoron is there ever was one...

    • hockeyfannl
      August 09, 2013 - 09:56

      For the most part most of the Americans that I have met have been really nice and friendly people who would go out of their way to help anyone.

  • JJ
    August 08, 2013 - 10:13

    Here is my take on this letter by 'Gene Poole'. I believe this is merely a copycat drive-by smearing on Newfoundlanders prompted by a letter sent to the Calgary paper on July 28th by a person by the name of Shawn Mitchell. "Gene Poole" is obviously a pseudonym created by a person who is quite likely not from North Carolina. In fact the person who submitted this to the Telegram, is what we would consider in the world wide web as a troll. Many of the points brought up by this fictional person are true to life events that anyone of us may see in our daily lives, but hardly occurances that are exclusive to this part of the world. I am sure that anti-social behaviour is just as common in any province of Canada or state of the union. When it comes to neighbours arguing, why would anybody want to listen in on the sordid details of an argument? Would Gene also stop to look at the gruesome result of a fatal automobile accident in order to titillate his/her curiosity? Regarding the improper use of all terrain vehicles on streets, I would have to agree with "Gene". This is a problem in many rural parts of the province and I wish it was not so prevelant. With respect to speeding cars and people using hand held devices while driving, I seriously doubt there is any more of this occuring here than in any other North American jurisdiction. And on roadworthy vehicles, again I don't believe we have any more of this in this province than anywhere else. I would agree that people stopping in front of shopping malls is definately a problem, but I would hardly see it as epidemic. I have been in many checkout lines and can say with great confidence that people I encounter are very well mannered. Countless times I have been urged to go ahead of a person in a line who had a full cart of items when I had merely a few. When it comes to neighbours arguing, why would anybody want to listen in on the sordid details of the argument? Would Gene also stop to look at the gruesome result of a fatal automobile accident in order to titillate his/her curiosity? Unfortunately, I would agree with the remarks on littering here. I find it to be a provincial embarrassment. As far as animal cruelty goes, any amount of it is plain wrong, but I do not believe there is any more occuring here than in any other place in Canada or the USA. This fictional person claims to be a member of PETA. I doubt any card carrying member of PETA would bother vacationing in a province where there is a seal hunt. The only reason I could fathom a PETA member coming here would be to protest or take part in civil disobedience. In closing, I can't help but wonder if "Gene Poole" is related to "I.P. Nightly"?

  • Just think what Newfoundland and Labrador could have amounted to if its natural resources hadn't been exploited by Ottawa for the rest of Canada.
    August 08, 2013 - 09:34

    ME, ME if Newfoundland and Labrador's natural resources hadn't been given away in the "Raw" state to satisfy the other province's needs for industry, employment and augmentation of their population, our province would have had the Number One Economy in the whole of Canada from its own natural resources and great strategic location from 1949 forward. Imagine how our location saved North America during the Second World War, it was the location where the allies flocked to keep North America safe from falling into the hands of the enemy.

  • Extreme Peta
    August 08, 2013 - 02:47

    As soon as you see "member of PETA" you know you have a winner. Animal cruelty? Yes cause we spend all summer out on the ice pans clubbing seals. The biggest joke is his name "Gene Poole" cause we all know Americans are at the top of that list. Extreme Peta is the only good Peta, LoL

    • Joey
      August 08, 2013 - 08:28

      Wow. I am so disheartened and embarrassed to read so many of the comments here. Many of you are the same regressive, rude people Gene was referring to. I've lived on the Southern Shore of NL my entire life and am proud of where I come from in many respects, but the litter, chained up dogs, and insane drivers make me angry every single day. Maybe if you stopped hastily defending yourselves and trashing other parts of the world that are worse than us, you would take the criticism and use it to make our home better. I'm sick of cleaning up litter after people who are too lazy and ignorant to bring it the hell home. I'm sick of seeing dogs chained up 24 hours a day. And I'm sick of drivers who can't get out of bed five minutes earlier to go to work. To those of you who apologized to Gene for the poor experience, thank you. For those too lazy to learn from it, hopefully you won't be reproducing.

    • T. Harris
      August 08, 2013 - 10:19

      It is very obvious, a no brainer, that all the encounters he/she ran into is very much what I , born and raised in a small outport of this BEAUTIFUL province have seen too. While I respect each and every comment about our province, it brings a lot of things to light. The neighbours you heard arguing over land were on the patio the next day having a beer together and laughing at what they said to each other..lool The guys that rattled you on the terrain vechile were the guys going to get the beer for the neigbours. The speeding cars were trying to get out of the way of the terrain vechiles so that they could get to the beer store. As for the people sitting in their cars at shopping centres??? O.K. I will admit that we do have some lazy people here too. This thing about standing in the line up and new cashier opening was very obvious Genie Poo .The people ahead of you were newfie's and the one's that ran to the cashier were obviously mainlanders.Why I know this is because WE NEWFIE'S were curtious enough to let the people in the back of the line go first. So there it is GENIE POO . Have yourself a very pleasant trip back

  • JC
    August 08, 2013 - 00:42

    The Newfoundland way is to give you examples of what is bad with parts of other countries to justify what is bad with their.

  • Sara
    August 07, 2013 - 23:24

    I recently moved back here to NL after being away 25 years. It is not the NL I remember. It is obvious now that it is now a "boom town". Oil and money have gone to peoples heads. It compares to Fort mac in that sense, the money, the oil, the drugs, the crime, the money hungry people who probably grew up with nothing and now have to prove themselves with their BIG houses and BIG trucks. Its the only province where people will announce how much they have paid for something. Ive seen this nowhere else and I have travelled and lived all over the world. My husband, who happens to be the best and most careful driver in the world recently had two accidents, both times, people let another car out into a two lane out of "courtesy" while that car couldnt see what was coming in the other lane...crashing into my husbands and others cars of course. Thanks for being kind NLers and thanks for almost killing my husband. Did any NLers learn the proper rules of the road?? Would somebody like to post an article in this paper about "what to do at a four way stop"??!!! i recently had a guy give me the finger for not going through the stop when he should have went before me then the person across from me.. as they were there first. He looked disgusted because well...he was being "kind". Who cares about rules of the road, speed limits, using signal lights and passing lanes. I guess this all helps with the big auto lotto that we are now famous for too hey. I volunteer in a junior high and had a student tell me that her mom was going on a cruise out of her car accident money and that her mom hopes someone else bangs into her again because they want to go to Florida!!! I thought this was absurd but when my husband had to go in to report his first ever accident due to a NLers generosity, he overheard two women in the waiting room of the RNC station talking and laughing about how they have to make sure to say their neck is hurting and heard that this was one girls third accident where she had a fender bender but hurt her neck. No shame, its the norm, and women benefit from it and then crowd the over crowded parking lot of the mall. Who shops that much?? On a monday morning, the parking lot is full. What are you buying? Everyone is wearing the same thing here, afraid to find their own style..if Sally gets a jean jacket, Jenny gets a jean jacket. And whats with the Canada Goose jackets??? I had one ten years ago, for the cold in Northern BC, but here the women think its a status symbol. Its dumb girls, you look like sheep following each other. You all look ridiculous with these and your silver jeans. Think you might want to just buy something that "you" decide to like? And to say us NLers are friendly?? I think people have changed over the generations. People here are by far the rudest people I have ever met. I've never met people who brag so much and I do know alot of people in high society ( they never felt a need to tell me how much their car was ). Everyone here is trying to outdo each other and sadly enough, no-one seems genuinely happy. We built our house in our little old community. A house big enough for us and for friends when they come to visit. We own several rental properties in Ontario and Orlando ( no-one knows this nor is it anyones business ) and a neighbour of mine recently stopped by our house and said " wow, this is so small, id never be able to live here now that we built our BIG house". They, by the way have no kids and built a house big enough for 10. She then asked me if I wanted the telephone number for her cleaning lady. Cleaning lady? Wait now, why would I need a cleaning lady? She doesnt work as well, so why does she? Oh for the BIG house or is this a fad here now too just to keep up with the Jones??? I remember seeing her mother empty their pail in the river some 40 years ago. And you know what? Her mother seemed alot more content than what she seemed. Funny about that isnt it? I think it upsets people here that we dont tell people how much we make, how much we paid for stuff and where we go to vacation in the winter. I also noticed that I dont fit in with the other women as well when I dont gossip about the lady next door and what she did or bought recently. Im trying to hold onto old Newfoundland and the way I remember it. I'll keep smiling at the neighbours, I'll be kind to everyone including animals, grow some of my own vegetables because I like to, wear my 15 year old parka because its still warm and not hurt, and will breathe in the salt air and think back to old days. Because these new days are not what newfoundland was, the people are not the same, the culture is not so prevalent and the laugher and fun is replaced with high speed and jealousy. Remember what really made us happy as kids Newfoundlanders!!!! And get back to your roots!!! "Gene Pool" saw it all for what it is now. Its unfortunate, but it is all true. Oh and by the way, we are thinking about keeping our house now as a summer house and moving back to Ontario. Love our time to ourselves here to keep our roots, but not big fans of boom towns! and what they bring!!

    • Robin
      August 08, 2013 - 11:36

      Agreed. I agree with you 100% Sarah. I moved back after living away for many years, and I am also shocked at what this place is like. I figure I either didn't see if for what it was before I moved away and now I do OR it has changed drastically - for the worse. I am also getting out of here again....as fast as I can. And, it is just a matter of time before the world sees it for what it is too.

    • Jen
      August 12, 2013 - 13:27

      It was not always like this. I have been living away for 16 years and every time I go back I am saddened by the changes. We have become a greedy self-absorbed group. It is kind of like the USA still saying there are the greatest nation in the world and they are oblivious to what the rest of the world really thinks of them as a nation. As Newfoundlanders we still like to say that it is great province full of kind and generous people. We are oblivious to the reality.

  • Johny
    August 07, 2013 - 22:16

    There is alot more to this province than the Avalon Peninsula. You visited about the worst spot on the island and judging everyone else outside of the Avalon on your experience. I bet if you visited the West coast or central you would have written about a different experience. We are grateful that you are not coming back and if I ever visit North Carolina I better expect it to be as perfect as you think it is or I will be doing a negative review of your hometown. I have a feeling that you are just a negative person and doesn't look for the positive in anything. I have been in almost every city and community on this beautiful province and the people here are amazing. You're complaints are about Parking, Arguing, Speeding, Grocery stores, and litter, You must have spent all your time on Walmart parking lot. At least we don't settle our differences with guns. I googled A couple NC towns and the reviews I found were: Fayetteville - Hot miserable military town. High Crime and Low everything else. Kinston - Poor economy - Awful health care - Crumbling Infrastructure Grifton - Same as Kinston only worse. Conetoe - Have you really been there? The worst kind of rural slum. Rocky Mount - Ugly - No personality - Downtown dead. Tarboro - Dying economy - Racially intolerant. Columbia - Nothing there but pine trees and fire towers. Robersonville and Williamston - Backwater Redneck Havens This was a post from someone in North Carolina So you should have a look at some of your own towns before you criticize someone else's Hometowns

  • Duffy
    August 07, 2013 - 21:04

    I find in odd that someone who lives in a country where there are 50,000 gun deaths a year, is always at war with someone else, uses drownes to kill an enemy regardless of innocent by-standers, has the highest crime rate in any developed country and the highest incarceration rate finds a small Island of 500,000 distasteful. Do we have our problems - sure we do - litter everywhere, speeding (because there is ZERO enforcement) but unfriendly people ? This is a beautiful place and we all know it so (Gene Poole) I suggest you look at the Gene Poole and DNA where you live. I have been to the Carolinas several times where there are poor people in shacks, blatant discrimination, no medical care unless privately insured at extremly huigh costs, high crime and prison rates, high school drop-out rates.............and it could go on. I am however sorry if your visit was not good but I suggest you do not exist. If you do then you are the person who would complain about the Garden of Eden because the apple tree was forbidden!

  • UNKNOWN
    August 07, 2013 - 20:38

    When I first began reading this letter, I assumed the worst. As a Newfoundlander from St. John's, I believe everything in it is true and is based on ones own opinion and experience. This is true when traveling anywhere. Things will happen to certain people, while others may not. It's apart of traveling: not everyone is friendly, garbage is more apparent in some places, and others sometimes rush. I've been fortunate enough to travel many places including parts of Europe, Canada, US and Latin America, and cannot say that my travels didn't include some form of criticism. It's just all apart of traveling and people should expect both negative and positive aspects of their trip.

  • bee
    August 07, 2013 - 20:19

    well if any of you expect to go home after years of being away to find things the way they were is crazy . no matter where you come from and all your memories things do change . Its a good thing . Change has to be . there are always good things and bad where ever you go . But the one thing you can always count on when arriving in Newfoundland is the friendly people . When I get of that plane every year in nf and hear someone say something like , how are you today honey or someone talking to my husband or daughter like they have known them forever .... that warms my heart .There is good every where and newfoundland is by far one of the nicest places I have been .

  • niki
    August 07, 2013 - 19:49

    Well I am disgusted but your letter I am a proud Newfie and no we are far from perfect which Im sure your not perfect either or wait your American off course you are. I have lived in several Canadian Provinces which are way worse than Newfoundland. I have lived in many Newfoundland towns and some are worse than other but thats the way it is. Maybe you should have visited more of Newfoundland than just one part CBN is only one place. I have seen many stores in other provinces that when someone opens the next cash the person behind goes there first which Im sure happens in the states. As for arguing that happens everywhere at least they aint out shooting or pety things, and animal cruelty I am an animal lover as well and it happens so much everywhere including the states its well more known there as well. So Please do not generalize all of newfoundland and newfies because of a few people and who knows maybe these people aint even from Newfoundland they could just living here. All newfies are far from like this you need to visit more places and actually see what we are like. Oh and btw in case you didnt notice in the states Im sure they litter there as well I definitely dont agree with it but its life and how people are. So as the saying goes get a ladder and get over it relax a little more and enjoy the ATV's driving the roads no they aint legally allowed to do it but hey what laws havent you broken or someone you know lol...

  • Qallanaat down under
    August 07, 2013 - 19:43

    Talk about throwing a cat in amongst the pidgeons

  • Gerald
    August 07, 2013 - 19:15

    Ummm..... his name is Gene Poole? Really? By using this fake name he/she is just being cruel commenting on the perception of a limited Gene pool that Newfoundlanders are often teased about. I am surprised the Telegram printed the letter.

  • Henry
    August 07, 2013 - 17:19

    Mr Poole, I regret your experience in Newfoundland. I reside in Western NL and I would like to inform you that eastern NL has always been the wrong side of the tracks, so to speak. Though pretty, it is a virtual cesspool of lunatics scrambling around like ants to get through their sad lives. I guarantee you would love the west coast, it's more beautiful, more friendly, and a totally different world than the east coast. Try this side sometime..I assure you the reputation we have as Newfoundlanders came from this side of the Island..tell your friends, the west is best!

  • stephen short
    August 07, 2013 - 16:59

    I cannot believe so many people took this arcticle seriously. GENE POOLE this is an hoax to get a rise out of people. If you had to jump in the bushes to avoid speeding cars,how would you even have time to see who was driving. lol Since the article in the Calgary Hearald last week,people such has GENE POOL,{ priceless I might add} is just some sad loser in his or her publicly funded 1 bedroom apt,angry at the world.. GENE POOLE .

  • Buddy
    August 07, 2013 - 16:37

    really? I don't think Gene even addressed whether he found the time to sip iced tea on the patio or put on the walking trainers or inhale the fresh NL air...he wanted to shop at the small grocery stores and 'quaint shopping centres' === what is a quaint shopping centre?? really...there are tons of friendly people and lots of natural beauty in Newfoundland still...what were you expecting?...Disneyland?...Heaven? - there are hicks and hillbillies and rednecks everywhere, and rude people too - could you have stayed at a hotel, inn, B&B or cabins, maybe? - I can decide to visit the US (in any state) or mainland Canada, if I simply rent a house on a given street in a given neighbourhood without doing due diligence on neighbours, amenities, any reputations or information that locals might know, then I could end up anywhere...next to flop houses, crack houses, whore houses, you name it...who am I going to blame?? ...everybody who lives in that state or province I would assume from your attitude and comments - so I go somewhere to see the scenery or local sights or to relax on the patio of where I'm staying and I complain about lineups in the malls, shopping centre parking lots and (presumably) 2 loud people in a residential neighbourhood...(oh, yeah, & speak to a 'supposed' notoriety for animal cruelty - so, what is your source for information?)...I say give me a break...I, too am sorry...sorry you made the choices you did, and that you choose to spread such negativity...(so, let's try to end on a positive note, I like your nom de plume "Gene Poole")

  • Look at the big picture
    August 07, 2013 - 16:29

    When you consider the sacrifices that Newfoundlanders have made so others can be free, these complaints become trivial. 911 showed the world the true Newfoundland spirit and that spirit is still alive and strong today. Newfoundlanders wil define themselves and not let others define them.

  • Batman
    August 07, 2013 - 16:26

    I'm from the CBN area, and I certainly agree with all of his points... Especially with #2. I am completely drove nuts by 5-12 year old boys driving their ATV's/Bikes all-day long... Their bikes are so loud it's annoying the hell out of me. And who gives kids this age motorized bikes/ATV's anyway? It's ridiculous!

  • Carolyn Evans
    August 07, 2013 - 15:51

    So sorry to hear this was your experience. Newfoundland is changing. Technology is happening. People are becoming socially awkward. The simplicity of our land is being paved over to become shopping centres and such. It is becoming rare to even see signs of the simpler days. Respect for the land is disappearing. I am saddened. But in saying all that, I still want to live here rather than any other province in Canada. Bias opinion I guess because I am a Newfoundlander. But there are a lot of things that make me embarrassed to admit this at times. Welcome to the human race! We will eventually destroy ourselves and the beauty of our land. In the meantime, chin up.

  • Scott M
    August 07, 2013 - 15:20

    Well I just visited NL for the first time this year and it was awesome I'm coming back next year. A Vacation is as good as you make it, if your waiting for the good times to come to you that ain't going to happen anywhere. I have been to most every state and Province and 1 Territory in N America and nowhere compares to what newfoundland has to offer. See you guys in 2014

  • Dee N Hay
    August 07, 2013 - 14:41

    Gene Pool has some valid points and we can learn from the critical comment. Crime rates have become much higher and people are not as polite as they used to be. In NFLD the "lobster pot" syndrome is more evident than just about anywhere else - if someone looks to be getting ahead then he/she is pulled back immediately. Discrimination against outsiders and even between communities esp. larger ones against smaller ones is common. NFLDrs can be very narrow and small minded. Normally a few years "away" conditions this out of most!

  • diek
    August 07, 2013 - 13:22

    Argument going along, going along then wall. "apparently, this area is also notorious for animal cruelty." How to sink an argument in one blow. John Doe, or as he prefers Gene Pool, choose to pick such a hypocritical topic. John Doe is a member of PETA. PETA killed 89.4 Percent of Adoptable Dogs and Cats in its Care During 2012. Poor John failed to see a single instance of animal cruelty, and from all indications came to Newfoundland knowing it. How can we really take his word for anything? The only thing I can agree with is the garbage and driving. It needs to be fixed. As for those Newfoundlanders responding by insulting Conception Bay North, sad, sad, sad. Together we stand divided we fall.

  • Concerned Newf
    August 07, 2013 - 13:18

    Sad to hear of your one and ONLY experience from ONE SMALL area of Newfoundland. I was born and raised in Central Nfld., have lived in Ontario for many years, but look forward to my visits "back home" very much. There's nowhere else in the world like it. We have our faults, as do everyone, but in general we DO CARE AND TAKE PRIDE IN OUR SURROUNDINGS. I invite you to try Central and Northern Nfld. You will surely walk away with a completely different experience that will meet and/or exceed your expectation. Hopefully you will see the many responses your letter has generated! As you will see, we are people who do care. Your letter is degrading and you did not even have respect enough to sign your own name. Offended Newfie

  • Selena
    August 07, 2013 - 12:57

    Ok...there was only one thing I had bad to say in the months I lived in NL.Yes the SPEED is frieghtening.I remember some days trying to save our own lives to stay up to SPEED as we had to.Yes truckers have entitlment they'll run you off the road ,yes By'e !! They will if you don't keep yer ass in gear on TCH you'll be moose lunch.You do have to consider in NL they dont drive our short quick city streets full of polution.They drive very long stretches of hilly mountain gorgeous highway that is not exactly a hop skip an a jump to any our your next destinations.If NL had more in between coffee shops or mini malls the traffic wouldnt be near as fearce,but also if they OPENED !!!! all year round there information booths rather then just having them there vacant,people would make more stops.You see my point is if you want beautiful scenery stop pushing on SPEED issues...yes they need to slow down but try to understand why the speed is maxed !!!!!!!! it's a Newfoundlanders life on the road,they know the weather changes wuick they know it takes X hours to next destination....see ???? what do you want to make NL start looking like a cluttered highway city everywhere or do you want Newfoundland beautiful land to enjoy.....Otherwise I loved it there...luvs ya NL an miss most of you dearly.

    • Randy
      August 08, 2013 - 05:59

      HAHAHA!! Wellsaid!1And by all the rude , nasty, rebuffs, I guess the truth hurts!1Ignorant, illiterate, lazy newfies!!!

    • Samantha
      August 08, 2013 - 08:48

      @Randy - I question why you have come to a Newfoundland-based newspaper's website if you are just going to post rude comments... Was it really just for the purpose of insulting our population and our apparent "illiteracy"? It's really too bad that you also seem to be illiterate, considering that Selena was commenting in the defence of Newfoundlanders. Yes, the drivers speed a lot of the time, but you'll be hard-pressed to find a place anywhere where everyone always drives exactly the speed limit. Yes, some people abuse animals and throw litter on the ground, but again, that happens everywhere. I am personally ashamed of the fact that it can happen in a place full of friendly, loving people such as my home, but these crimes are most certainly committed by a minority, and completely frowned upon and abhorred by the rest. I am very curious as to why you harbour so much hatred for us. If you could articulate your reasons for thinking that we are an "Ignorant, illiterate, lazy" people it would be very helpful for those of us who would like to break down the barriers that other provinces seem to have up against us. I am going to be honest, I don't think you have any particularly good reasons for this - no one ever does - but it would still be very interesting to hear them if you do. As for Mr. Poole, I have to agree with some of your points, especially those about drivers in Newfoundland. It's really too bad that you didn't get to see the good aspects of our province and people. I hail from CBS but I will be the first to admit that the best scenery is on the west coast! So if you do happen to give us a second chance, head that way to the mountains and the fjords. It's quieter and more beautiful.

  • Cynic
    August 07, 2013 - 12:43

    A PETA member? And anyone expects an objective assessment of Newfoundland from a PETA worker? It is highly likely that this person has never been here, we all know how the animal rights industry makes things up to exploit us. And look at the things he found fault with. The unspeakable horror of not being able to shop at WalMart? In all likelihood, this is a stunt by PETA to get attention and this guy has never even been to this country.

  • J
    August 07, 2013 - 12:29

    Your expectations seem totally unrealistic to me. It's as if you expected a trip to Newfoundland would have brought you back to the early 1900s where people didn't lock their doors and everyone drove around in a horse drawn buggy. Sorry you found Newfoundland to not meet your early colonial era expectations but this is 2013 and we have evolved along with the rest of the world

  • Andrea
    August 07, 2013 - 12:28

    If these are his only complaints about our beautiful province then I think we are ok! I for one can come with a list of more serious complaints in regards to the USA. he certainly won't be missed I'm sure!

  • Chelle
    August 07, 2013 - 12:22

    Interesting letter to say the least but unfair to think all of Newfoundland is like this. There are crazy drivers, crazy arguing neighbors, and ignorant selfish butting in-line people EVERYWHERE in this world...even in North Carolina and Newfoundland! May be before you judge a whole Province you should just revisit some of the recommended places. The Baie Verte area has some really beautiful scenery and things to do....boat rides, whale and ice berg (in season) watch! There's a little town called La Scie that has spectacular scenery and an RV park and the people are very friendly around there!!!!!! I do hope you decide to revisit Newfoundland and check out the many, many other places and once you have done this and seen all of the beautiful Island and met many more people then say what you think of it. Happy travels!!

    • need better roads
      August 29, 2013 - 14:31

      you forgot to mention that the road to get to La Scie is very very dangerous to drive on. to tell the truth it is disgusting and shameful, nothing has been done to the road in 40 years.

  • Theresa L
    August 07, 2013 - 12:21

    Yes Tom Bonavista Bay came to my mind too, what a wonderful place. Mr. Poole, I'm sorry for your experience BUT please don't judge all of Newfoundland or Newfoundlanders because of that. I have just one more thing to say...... 9/11 :(

  • newfieaway
    August 07, 2013 - 12:08

    I am a Newfoundlander who has lived away for over 20 years. I think a lot of people away idealize Newfoundland. They see the pretty pictures and gorgeous tourism commercials and paint an unrealistic picture in their minds of Newfoundland. Yeah Newfoundland is pretty, sure. But there is more to a place than the land, there is the people. The issues the American spoke of exist everywhere. I guess he thought Newfoundland was above those problems. One thing about Newfoundlanders though, that might offend is how direct we are. I had to learn when I moved away that most others don't come out and say what they mean. They are not socialized that way. It is just a different culture. I guess to people who are socialized to be passive aggressive, that forthrightness might be a put off haha. For me, I used to get frustrated on the mainland because people would rarely say what they wanted to say, instead you have to read between the lines. Anyway you can't please everyone who visits. But one issue that he raised offended me a tad, that is that Newfoundlanders are cruel to animals. Americans are cruel to animals! Shall we go into how you slaughter your animals? How you treat your livestock? Americans are not superior. As well, Americans have gone into numerous nations killing innocent civilian people (who to me, are more valuable than animals) for wars of greed. But I don't want to open up that can of worms, my point is-- Americans... you can hardly point a finger at anyone else for the issues raised. However that doesn't mean we ignore the critique altogether, how can we learn from those points? How can we improve so that tourists don't go away mad. That is harmful to the tourism industry. Even with all its faults, Newfoundland to me is a paradise on earth.

  • Brittany
    August 07, 2013 - 12:03

    I'm sad to hear you had such a horrible time here. Maybe if you would have went elsewhere besides the Avalon you would have thought much better of us. Everyone else NOT from the Avalon are much better to get along with. Hell, I once had a friend from away visit and my family whipped up a big ol' scoff just because they were here and loved the company and meeting new people. Not being from the Avalon, but having visited and spent sometime there, I feel as if I went to a completely different part of Canada when I see how things are there. Dirty, gross, and people drive like maniacs. But, we are not all like that, and if you would have visited other areas, you would have seen. I grew up in a very small community and I knew who all my neighbors were and there was no hostilities and if we were short an egg while baking we could borrow one from newt door until we got a chance to go to town and get more eggs and then we would pay them back for it. Big cities scare the shit out of me because people seemed to have removed themselves from everything else and are so busy and caught up in their own lives they don't slow down when they drive or at lease show kindness and respect to other people. Where I'm from, I know many people in my town and even if i don't know someone I will always smile at them and greet them with a hearty hello in passing. When I go to stores to buy anything, there are times where the person ahead of me got a cart load of stuff, and I only have 1 item, and then they are kind enough to let me go ahead of them. All of these things happen on the same island, the same place with the same group of people called Newfoundlanders. So it's not all of us, just people who live life to big for their britches so show kindness to others. It don't help historically the demographics and population over time of all the different areas of Newfoundland. The Avalon has always been the most densely populated part of the province and so the kind of live in places like that vs places like smaller towns in the rest of the Island where you know most of the people in your town, and we have always had to help each other out. The smaller the place, the more friendly it is. As someone who have lived here all my life and I study tourism for the sustainable, economic growth of our province, I just wish you could see the rest of the island, and in my opinion the better part of the island, before you judge us all as a whole.

  • Grant
    August 07, 2013 - 11:55

    Sorry my love, sounds like you booked the wrong flight, you where looking for disneyland, not newfoundland. However, I will agree with you on one thing, the litter. The litter in NL is brutal and I think the government should lay out some stiff fines to people but more imp businesses. Over at the Village mall the litter is just disgusting, time to step it up people, no point in living in a beautiful place if you are too lazy to find a garbage can to put your crap. The rest of you comments, I mean really. Couldnt get into the mall could ya, well go to the parking garage. People skipped you in line, bo ho. thats the difference with your gun happy people and ours, we dont sweat the small stuff, if somenody skips un in line, who carees, we are next, its 90 second out of your life, if you are really in that much of a rush ask to cut in, get over it. If you dont want 4 wheelers around, dont go to rural NL. You heard somebody get in a fight about land, welcome to the 21st century, land is gold, and thats a conversation that you would hear all over the globe. If you friends are anything like you, we would rather you pass on NL, your are not well suioted to this place.

  • Joanne Roberts
    August 07, 2013 - 11:47

    I am sorry that your experience was not good. We travel to the US and spend time in AZ. When we tell ppl where we are from, NL, they ask, where is NL. I am shocked that they don't even know where NL is located in Canada. A lot of ppl that knew about NL think we still ride horse and buggy and use outdoor toilets etc and when they come they are shocked. We were little communties that grew up together and there was trust. We have been left for 10 yrs., living in Ontario where you have to make an appointment to go visit neighbors and friends. We live in Gander through 09/11 and you will not get ppl in places I visited in the US to come up to you and invite you into their home like they did . They trust ppl. It has changed over the yrs and I agree there is beauty all over Gods creation. I still like the "come on in and have a cup of tea" without an appointment and even strangers are welcome.

    • jim
      August 08, 2013 - 15:58

      I remember my stay in 64-66 and most ppl were very nice but not all that I met and yes most had no Idea where my town in Maryland was. My point is 9/11 was terrible and Nfld was a good host, but seldom is it mentioned by Canadians of how WELL paid the locals were who took in travelers.

  • Jon
    August 07, 2013 - 11:28

    Read through all of the comments, and you will see that you have just proved his points. I have lived across Canada for the past 20 years, and as much as I hate to say it, he is right. That being said, I think society has changed in general. I remember growing up before the internet, and all of the outside influences. I remember when you would never disrespect an elder, whether they were your family or not. Times have changed. It's a sad reality. The last few trips home from Alberta, I have experienced exactly what Gene experienced. Part of the problem is that whether you know it or not, we are held in high regard by people around the world, but they have usually met one of us in isolation, and they love our easy going, funny attitudes towards life. It's just too bad that the real experience doesn't live up to the expectations.

  • jim johnston
    August 07, 2013 - 11:15

    I would say that this person is one of those Americans who treats animals much better then he treats his fellow Black Americans as I witnessed while living in the USA-they are usually the first to complain and he didn't mention the over 10,000 people his fellow Americans murder just by guns every year-We are not perfect but some here may argue too much for him but we don't shoot first and think later

  • Moika
    August 07, 2013 - 10:57

    To say that I am shocked is an understatement! I also think that maybe your negative attitude attracted the same from others.... Why don't you tell us stories of the perfect place you live in...... How many guns do you own? how many deaths per year when a neighbour pulls a gun over a land dispute and shoots instead of "yarning" about it at the local restaurant? Believe me when I say that there hasn't been one of those in Newfoundland! How many of your kids drop out of school and join gangs? Oh wait.... Lets send them to Newfoundland to pick up the litter! Why don't you speak to one of the many thousands of Americans who we put up on 9-11 and in the days that followed? What's wrong, no one offered you a shower or meal in their home? Please don't come back!

  • LOVENEWFOUNDLAND
    August 07, 2013 - 10:30

    Mr. Poole, You obviously robbed yourself of a wonderful Newfoundland experience. Gros Morne National Park is the best part of our Island, I visit there as often as I can. If you would have picked Norris Point / Rocky Harbour area as your relaxation vacation, you would have left with a totally positive attitude towards Newfoundland and certainly would recommend others to come. I have met some of the friendliest people here and it by far has the best scenery and tourist attractions. I feel very sad for you that you chose the area you did.

  • levelheaded
    August 07, 2013 - 10:13

    Hey Newfies, you might want to spellcheck before hitting 'submit' on these comments... you really aren't helping your case with your spelling mistakes and ignorant misuse of words and phrases. Just sayin.

  • bro
    August 07, 2013 - 10:04

    Open your eyes people...this place is not what it was.i am from a small town and sad to see the changes

  • Nfldman
    August 07, 2013 - 09:50

    With the exception of arguing over land and the ATV usage, and maybe the line cutting thing. The rest of this happens everywhere in Canada, I have seen and witnessed it, and almost been killed many times over it. This person is destined to never have a good vacation if this stuff upsets them.

  • Linda
    August 07, 2013 - 09:34

    We only seem to want to hear the good feed back regarding visitors to our great province. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss the bad experiences as well, If you were seeking what you described in your letter I believe you were in a populated area, The more rural area you visit, the higher like hood of a great NL experiences. We are not perfect in our patience on the road, line-ups, littering etc. I feel I speak for my fellow NL's when I say we love this province and it's people. If we have the miss fortune of have to up root and live anywhere else in this world, we are very sad, misplaced and counting the days for our return. I don't want the province to change, and it seems the more we become a have province the more we are loosing what make us unique from the rest of Canada

  • Tracy
    August 07, 2013 - 09:27

    Wow, The Telegram knows how to post a story to get some attention!!! Mr. Poole, if you're reading this, I'm sorry you had such a bad experience, but we have parts here in Newfoundland that have rednecks, just like in your part of the world. Please don't judge the rest on the actions of these people. I think you went to the wrong town which may be heavily populated with this type. You should have stayed in a quaint B&B in downtown St. John's...I'm sure you would have enjoyed yourself. I would like to extend an invitation for you to come stay with us and I would take the opportunity to show you some beautiful people and places. Please ignore some of the comments above...they were probably posted by rednecks. :)

  • Julia
    August 07, 2013 - 09:13

    Being a born and bred Newfie I totally agree and have experienced all of the things mentioned when I lived in NL up until 2009. Now, I live in NB and guess what? It's the same thing here! I also agree with the defence article, but no matter what, I'm still PROUD TO BE A NEWFOUNDLANDER! The reputation and experience that comes from the island known as "the rock" is far greater of a feeling than anyone can describe. And thats one thing you cannot take from us. "Haters gonna hate"

  • Lyn
    August 07, 2013 - 09:12

    Sorry that you have seen the worst of NL,but we are not alike. I'm sure if I came to your area I would find faults.1 bad apple spoils the bunch! NL is a beautiful province with crime,litter,fast car ,and some that are unfit to be on the road.. . But we are kind ,considered people and we are HUMANS! Some day I'll come to your neck of the woods and point out the faults of "Your People" See how you like that!

  • Native Newfie Lady
    August 07, 2013 - 08:57

    Fellow Newfies: You make me sad and ashamed. Gene was not attacking our province or our people. Gene was just describing his/her vacation and how it was not what was expected. His/Her vacation was planned with a certain image in mind. However, what Gene received was NOT the image portrayed by our ancestors, by our ads, or by our reputation. Unfortunately, poor Gene received 'reality Newfoundland' - the terrible place our province has become. Then, to make matters worse, many of you attack Gene - telling Gene to go back home, not to visit again, tell friends not to visit, and one of you even threatened our tourist. Seems like to me that you just proved some of the points of the letter. Gene even said, and I quote: "I know that what I have experienced does not apply to every Newfoundlander. And, for those of you that are good, decent, friendly people, who are courteous, good to animals, and drive by the rules, then I am sorry that your fellow inhabitants are ruining your reputation." That proves that Gene is NOT saying that everyone here is like that. Didn't you people read the entire thing!!!! Gene is not being malicious or hurtful. Gene is trying to help us. C'mon people, let's be honest here - the points in Gene's letter - I see them EVERY DAY!!!! And, if you people would get over yourselves and take a long hard look in the mirror and around you, then you would see them also. This province is NOT a great place. I am ashamed to be a Newfoundlander right now. And, to Gene, I am sorry you had an unpleasant experience here in our province. I also thank you for bringing this to our attention. You're letter was well-written and honest. It is clear that Newfoundland needs to re-group and get back to what we once were.

  • Vanessa
    August 07, 2013 - 08:12

    This guy is a typical mainlander. You heard someone arguing? Get over it. You were almost run over by an ATV? Get off the road, loser. You're going to complain about someone going ahead of you in a line-up? Are you five years old? Grow up. Lastly, there is litter all over Canada... Not just Newfoundland. That is absolutely a petty statement. I'm originally from southern Ontario and I could argue about the many disadvantages of living there but, I don't like to nag. Trust me, Newfoundland doesn't want you as a tourist. Stay home.

  • Ex-Newf
    August 07, 2013 - 08:08

    The way all the "resident" Newfoundlanders have commented on this article just goes to prove how deeply ingrained in the people these problems are. You are all a crowd of mean ,jealous, nasty, 'holier than thou", entitled, backwards, odd people who obviously can't see past yourselves or take honest criticism from an "outsider". Go back and read these comments again,,,.even Newfoundlanders are agreeing ....and you all think there's no problem? Time to get your heads out of the cod's arse by's and have a good, realistic look at what you've become. Newfoundland is not what it used to be, it is deteriorating by the day, your young people are leaving in droves, drugs are rampant, crime is going through the roof. It's sad. I have wonderful childhood memories feom the 60's and 70's...large families, quaint coves, garden parties, Regatta and much, much more. Newfoundland was like those commercials back then.....and I can't even tell you the disappointment I felt after deciding to move back to Idyllic Newfoundland in the 80's...boy did I get a shock. You're losing your reputation....fast.

  • Cindy
    August 07, 2013 - 08:03

    Sorry your experience was not a positive one to our beautiful province but you can't please them all! By the way nice name 'Gene Poole' - how's all that in-breeding going for you? Y'all come back now ya hear! lmao

  • Jan
    August 07, 2013 - 08:01

    I couldn't agree more! I have been talking about the rude drivers, and the litter now for the past few years. Just try walking around the streets in the spring before the grass hides the litter and you will be shocked, and it's getting worse. As well, don't get me started about the rudeness in stores: Just try going to Costco on the weekend - where there are so many people not paying any attention where they are pushing their cart. So many times folks will just cut you off, bump into you, and basically think they are the only ones in the store and without even an "excuse me". But it wasn't always like that. Did anyone stop to think that because of the economic boom here on the Avalon that there are a lot of non-Newfoundlanders here now? Newfoundlanders in general and historically have been kind, caring folks and that could not have changed overnight. Just think about it. It wasn't like this 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago. So many people coming from all over. Maybe some Newfoundlanders feel that they had to learn to be rude just to survive. I'm just sayin'. There has to be some reason for it!

  • Dan
    August 07, 2013 - 07:50

    Couldn't agree more with "Mr. Poole." This province is filled with ignorant, backward people. If you don't fit in, they don't like you. If you have any interest in sciences or proper art (Non-Newfoundland Landscapes.) You are outcast. If you show any interest in science or culture, you are outcast. If you show any interest in anything besides being a skeet, you are outcast. If you aren't Catholic or Christian in any way, you are outcast. If you drive safely, you get flipped off, or hauled over by speeding RNC officers. If you call the police to report anything, you are ignored. If you work in retail, you are bombarded with people asking for discounts, and if you don't give it to them, they flip out at you. The province is FAR from the "Friendly:" Newfoundland I read about in elementary school.

  • Tanya
    August 07, 2013 - 07:21

    Wow...reading though the comments left here, the author's point of view is completely validated. Regardless of if it's a fake letter or not, these ARE problems here in NL that should all be addressed. The people being rude and snarky are probably the same people being talked about, so they have their backs up. My father is in the Armed Forces, so I was raised all over Canada, and I have to say that we are no longer the "Most Friendly" people in the country. The Newfoundland I remember visiting when I was a youngster is vastly different from the Newfoundland of today, and not for the better. Whoever wrote this, I'm very sorry you've had bad experiences here in our great province, and hopefully your letter will be a wake up call for some of our residents.

  • Doris Colliins
    August 07, 2013 - 07:08

    Doris - August 7, 2013 Good Lord, I lived in four different States for sixteen years, in my younger years, and I saw a lot of wonderful sites and met a lot of wonderful people, but trust me, I saw everything else also - unfriendly people, nasty shop personnel, prejudice galore, hatred of tourists even though they bring in a big chunk of their dollars which provide a lot of jobs, ghettos, poor communities with washers and dryers on the front porch, cars speeding and drag racing on the roads, etc. etc. I've also been to North Carolina, and they have their own problems when seen through the eyes of an outsider - enough said. I could go on and on, but I have family and friends in the USA, and I am intelligent enough to know that all people and all places do not fit into the same category. As an example, when I visit a small place like North Conway in New Hampshire, I know that all of New Hampshire is not exactly the same and as lovely as North Conway. This man should have spent a month going around Newfoundland and Labrador instead of sitting in his little rented house watching, criticizing and finding fault. He could have stayed at home and found all the same things to complain about.

  • Margaret Ayad
    August 07, 2013 - 04:17

    Gene Poole - so funny!! I did not get that until someone mentioned it. Makes a person read the letter in a total new way.

  • lisa
    August 07, 2013 - 02:23

    Really,,shocking,,NFLD is just like every other city in the world !! Im stunned!! And we dont just exist for tourists? Im appalled,,,Please,,go where u want,,petty complaints get u know where. Last to be served in a line up,,all terrain vehicles in the country? umm yeah,,if u wanted ppl to kiss your ass you should have stayed in st johns

  • Chan
    August 06, 2013 - 22:52

    I've lived in nfld for a long time now, and also travelled. And from what I seen, everything you named out refers too any other town in the world. Maybe you should of went too another place in nfld before you judge us all!

  • Garge
    August 06, 2013 - 22:24

    Next time try Iraq for a vacation. After all you guys done most of the landscaping over there yourselves. Not many ATV'S but a lot of Tanks and you can be the first in any line there. Most tend to hang behind because the guy in front expires.

  • Newfie Villager
    August 06, 2013 - 22:02

    Why is everyone getting s worked up about some guys opinion... I'm pretty sure no matter where you go in the world not EVERYONE is going to have something nice to say all the time, if you love Newfoundland then that's all that should matter, if some people don't then that's their problem. We have our own way of life, which is completely different from the rest of Canada and just because someone has a negative opinion on us doesn't mean we have to let it affect us!

  • Seen-it-from-all-sides
    August 06, 2013 - 21:37

    Oh so true. Sad, but true. Newfoundlanders (not all) have the impression that God himself gave them the right to; drive ATVs on the road / throw garbage wherever they want / park wherever they want / use other people's property for their own use / etc / etc / etc...I have travelled extensively and have found people from all over are just as (if not more) friendly as your average Newfoundlander. I was all over New York State a couple of years back and was shocked by the friendliness of the locals (especially in "The Big Apple", amazing people). We aren't "all that". Oh, and I've driven in some of the largest cities in North America along with interstates and local roads from multiple states. I often comment that I feel safest when I'm outside Newfoundland. I don't care if Gene Poole is a fake name or not. Gene Poole is right.

  • Leah Sweeney
    August 06, 2013 - 21:34

    After reading this letter, I have to say he's right about a lot of things, but did he ever get shot? stabbed? or robbed? I lived in Newfoundland most of my life and never got shot by drive by shooters, never got stabbed, and never even seen or ever heard tell of people dressed like the KKK burning crosses in lawns owned by blacks or anyone of a different race. Those things he complained about is nothing compared to the crime rate and the horrific stuff that goes on in the states. That is only my opinion.

  • Kate
    August 06, 2013 - 20:56

    Well, I just spent a very lovely week and a half in NL. I was very pleased by the beauty I saw everywhere. I thought people were very friendly and helpful; in fact, it was a vast improvement over what I have seen traveling other places. I too am an American and will say that every place in the world had plusses and minuses. I know we certainly do in the US. I saw so very little trash compared to what I see at home that I can't imagine how the impression that the land was well cared for came from. I spent most of my time down in the coves of the Avalon area and then drove the Island. I saw great beauty in the Bonnievista Area and the Gros Morne park. I can't wait to go back!

  • Dale
    August 06, 2013 - 20:26

    I am from Newfoundland and prowd of it .....Yes everything he has put in this is probably true...I have visited many many cities and countries and I don't care who you are or where you are you will find all the issues you have listed above where ever you go....So if you heard stories and imagined in your mind what they would be like and that obviously did not happen ..then thats your problem.....You seem to be a closed minded person and live in your own little world....I'm sorry you did not have the experience you were expecting but in the real world most things don't always happen the way we want them to....

  • Penny Osbourne
    August 06, 2013 - 19:56

    Sorry YOU had a bad experience! YES there are rude and impatient people in NL, YES there are Newfoundlanders that have no respect for Mother Earth, and spread their garbage everywhere, and that really annoys me. BUT having said that -- THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE IN THE WORLD I WOULD RATHER BE.

  • Grace
    August 06, 2013 - 19:47

    Your complaints are only "minor". I suspect you mus've felt really safe here as we don't walk around with a 'loned gun" in our pockets!!!!

  • Wendy
    August 06, 2013 - 19:31

    Yes Gene, I do realize some of your issues are warranted but are you really judging an island of inhabitants because someone didn't let you go in the grocery line first?? Animal cruelty?? Have you looked around this province and noticed the number of Animal rescue organizations and volunteers who give their time, energy, love and tears to help abandoned and abused animals. I do agree there is an erosion of morals and values weeding through our beautiful island. I directly contribute this outside negative influence to our neighbors from the south good ole US of A. I say don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!

  • Rose
    August 06, 2013 - 19:29

    I am a Newfoundlander and very proud to say. We mind our own business and don't sit around listening to others argue, We don't walk on roads, they are used by cars, we walk on the side,We treat others as they should be treated I am so glad that you are not coming back, We are hoping that our government make a RULE and keep B...... Like you away from our Beautiful Place

  • Jane
    August 06, 2013 - 19:18

    You went to CBN? And judged a whole province on that? Good riddance...

  • Dee
    August 06, 2013 - 19:11

    Holy cow...generalize much? Yes, neighbours may argue. Guess what? They didn't settle it with a gun. They felt safe enough to argue. Try that in North Carolina. And getting upset over how checkout lines move? How petty can you be? Seriously. You go to a rural area, you're going to see ATVs. I don't care what country you're in. They are everywhere. Seems to me that your comments say more about you than they can ever say about Newfoundland.

  • K
    August 06, 2013 - 19:10

    Sorry for your unfortunate experience, Gene Poole, but I can assure you that Newfoundland is not what you think. I've never been to the area you've spoken of, but I live in Corner Brook on the west coast. Though we do have many crazy drivers and many rude people, there is still good in this place. I've lived here for all of my seventeen years, and when I finish high school I plan on leaving, but that's because Newfoundland is not for me. Any time you go somewhere drastically different from where you live, you're going to find a few things odd. I realize fully that we've got bad drivers, mean people, animal abusers, etc, but there are people like that everywhere you go. I'm assuming there is a big culture difference from North Carolina. We're a different type of people but you need to realize that we're still human and we make mistakes. Newfoundland is a beautiful place if you go to the right places and talk to the right people. Like any place, there are going to be terrible people. Some people forget that Newfoundland is not just a glorious forest land where everyone will greet you with a smile. I've met many mean people (working in retail, especially) but I have also met some of the most kind, giving, personable people in the world here. I would consider myself fairly well traveled, as I've been to Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Vancouver, and I've also been out of the country to Florida, and even though I don't personally get along with Newfoundland, even I can admit that it's a place that I would come back to no matter what home I find, and that's because of the handful of people that I've made a home with. They're fantastic people. If you ever decide to give Newfoundland another chance, I suggest checking out Gros Morne, the Arches, the Man in the Mountain hike, skiing at Marble Mountain, experience the West Coast, visit some small outport communities, go fishing, take a trip to St. John's, go to George Street, shop in downtown St. John's, and experience the true spirit of the island. It's worth another shot. Maybe you were just in the wrong spot. :)

  • JK
    August 06, 2013 - 19:05

    I write as a CFA who has lived here for over 30 years. Three points. First, Newfoundlanders are, fundamentally, no different from anyone else in the western world, for all the self-congratulatory comments to the contrary. Second, traffic discipline and enforcement here is,as the writer says, atrocious. Third, the writer is quite right to draw attention to the amount of litter and garbage which adorns our streets and open spaces. Mr Poole took the tourist advertisements at face value. Quite obviously , they portray an idealized,not a real place - like many tourist blurbs from elsewhere.

  • david
    August 06, 2013 - 19:05

    Go to a Harris Teeter grocery store just once in your life....you'll be cured of any grip on you by this place forever. No joke.

  • kim
    August 06, 2013 - 18:56

    Thats why im proud to be a newfoundlander,"We eat,drink and be merry.we are loud cause we love to party and we are not afraid to speak our minds or tell someone what we think of them.we dont need gun to prove our point,we can b "LOUD"..."NUFF SAID"

  • John
    August 06, 2013 - 18:48

    Wow, NL is just like any other place. Take off your blinders "Gene Poole" and come join us in the real world.

  • Bonnie
    August 06, 2013 - 18:47

    I'm a CFA, having moved here a little over six years ago from BC. I've been all over Canada over the course of my life and nowhere is absolutely perfect. I've dealt with rude people everywhere I've lived - rude people happen. Arguments over land happen. Bad drivers happen. While I agree with some of what is mentioned in the letter, I do not agree with all of it. What did the letter writer expect when he came here? Some version of an idyllic backwards Eden? It sure sounds that way. Yes, Newfoundlanders can be a bit cautious when dealing with an outsider - I dealt with some of that as well, but not anymore. Most people don't even realize I'm a CFA these days, but then I don't get my nose twisted out of joint by coming across things that don't jive with my pre-conceived notions of what this place is like. St. John's, like any big city, has traffic issues. It had dirt and garbage issues. It's being worked on - the influx of people from out around the bay and from other provinces and countries has been a bit of a shock. Even in the past six years that I've been here there has been a population surge and that takes a bit of time to adjust to. Heck, I've lived in Vancouver BC - you want dirt, garbage, and horrible drivers try driving from one end of Hastings Street to the other and you'll get to see all that and then some. I think the letter writer's main issue is that he came here with some pre-conceived notion of what Newfoundland and her people are all about, forgetting that we're just as human as the rest of the world. Perhaps it coloured his dealings with the people he met here if he was not treated as well as he expected to be. It's hard to say because I never witnessed first hand what he is writing about. That being said, I have found - having worked downtown in one of the shops that tourists flock to - that Americans, especially from the Southern states, tend to be harsh and over-critical of Newfoundlanders. I had one tell me off because she found Newfoundland music to be too Irish-sounding! I guess she was expecting something that one would expect in the Appalachians or something - sorry lady, but we aren't fish-loving hill billies, if that's what you're expecting.

  • Sarah
    August 06, 2013 - 18:25

    Seriously? What did you expect? This is not a magical place. We are human just like the rest of the world. I can't understand or sympathize with people who think that any place in the world is filled with perfect people who do no wrong and then let their vacation be "ruined" when the place they are visiting did not meet their sky high expectations. Complaining about grocery store line up courtesies? Really? Obviously the residents of this community weren't warned that a tourist was coming so they'd better be in their best behaviour! Give me a break...this is not a Disney fairy tale land! We are real people who live and struggle on a daily basis. Clearly you forgot you were not in dream land.

  • Agree
    August 06, 2013 - 18:17

    Sadly, I have to agree with every word you say. I've lived in NL all my life, 43 years. I find people have no respect here. Not all people, there are still wonderful people but so true about the cutting people off while you are driving and the speeding is outrageous! On a lane of about 10 houses where I live, it's the mother's who speed the most on this 30 km/hr street. In a hurry to get nowhere after picking up their kids while having no concern for the walking kids under 10 years old. You can't go to any store without seeing the complete firelane blocked off with parked cars. Understandable if someone has trouble walking and needs to be dropped off, about 5% of people, but then move your car. Sames goes for handicapped and baby spaces. Totally self-absorbed people with no respect for the people these are reserved for. This next is line thing at the cashes should be a rule! It happens to me all the time and the customers at the end of the line jump on the newly opening cash like they'd fight you if you tried to get in front of them, even though you have been waiting the longest. Obviously, cashiers need some proper training as well as the ignorant people. The town where I grew up and still live was great but it was outsiders, not from other provinces but from our own province, that turned it into the way it is today. Took away the pride of heritage and took over our small community making it into a city of total lack of respect for others and their property. As for littler, it's disgusting. I keep a supermarket bag in my car which I bring in my house and it goes with the garbage once a week. Not a big job and at least my litter isn't all over everyone's property unilike what I end up with on mine. Not a hard thing to do just to keep the place from looking like the dive it's turning into with the mess. It's unreal the scrapped vehicles and left over pavement, etc that gets just dumped in the woods everywhere. We do have recycling and there's seriously no need. I can't even get started on how much I am in agreement with you.

  • ramona
    August 06, 2013 - 17:39

    folks, what you are reading above (the article) is merely a promotion for PETA......trying to discourage people from visiting Newfoundland.

  • Mark
    August 06, 2013 - 17:22

    your points are dumb, you had a bad experience cause you had to wait in line a bit longer? and you had to walk around cars at a shopping center?and you had to listen to land disputes? as far as im concerned if thats what caused you to have a bad experience, i can speak for many newfoundlanders and say dont come back

  • Kyle Anderson
    August 06, 2013 - 17:12

    Honestly, why would you go to any place and stay in one little town? Conception Bay is notorious for being a bit of a rough spot as it stands right now anyway, so go explore the province. To enjoy Newfoundland, you need to enjoy the outdoors and travelling. Things like hiking, camping, four wheeling, goin for cruises along the coastline, visiting small towns and their cultural/historical sites. Sitting in a little shack in Conception Bay North is no way to experience Newfoundland. Just Saying.

  • Mainlanders as I'm called here in NL
    August 06, 2013 - 17:09

    Sorry to say I agree with everything that was said. I moved here from from a nother provience11 years ago. I have experienced every thing that was said and yes it's all true. Weather you believe it or not. I have no close friends not one person to go for a coffee with let alone any where as a couples date with my husband. I have never felt so alone in a providence. We moved here to have a better life beacuse my husband is from here but I will tell you We have been ripped off so many times from people that you think you can trust , they talk behind your back as soon as you walk away . Mind you . You can't hear what they are saying but you just know. We have tried so hard to adjust to the ways here but now we are selling our home. Forget about getting a job here unless you know the owners personally or a family member that works with the company or are one of there friends .I have tied so hard to get a full time job over the years .My husband has been traveling out of providence for work even with his three trades. My son just graduated this year work for him would be in a fast food restaurant or a food store . So what life will he have here. I'm not knocking nL or the people here . It's all true and I'm sticking to it. I fel sorry for new comers I really do.

    • Zakaria
      October 03, 2013 - 15:17

      Hi, Me(Bangladeshi) and my wife(Mauritian) are planning to come and live in NL. My wife will be studying in Memorial University. She wants to work as a teacher after finishing her degree. I don't have any friends or relatives in NL. So, according to you, it's not the best idea to get jobs and settle down in NL.....i am kinda worried now.

  • Someone
    August 06, 2013 - 16:59

    Itès so unfortunate that you are basing your opinion of Newfoundland on Conception Bay North. That is where you decided to stay.... seriouslyÉ Clearly didnèt do your research before visiting. And you claim to be a world traveler. Pfft!

  • Eileen
    August 06, 2013 - 16:52

    People ,,,,,,,,Why be bother to defend our beautiful provience,,,,if 50 people as a problem with our beautiful Island there's thousands that love @ see the beauty ,,,,,,don't fret people we will be always be BEAUTIFUL OUR ISLAND & US PEOPLE ......

  • Noel
    August 06, 2013 - 16:46

    He does have a few good points but I figured this guy out, too, when he said "Walking Trainers" & "PETA". Good luck satisfying a guy like this anywhere. I bet $20 he's a Sierra Club member, too, but was just barely smart enough to withhold that one. I've been to Charlotte, North Carolina. GORGEOUS. Just 20 miles outside that? Trailer Park Boys with ATVs, guns, mouth breathing and jutting lower jaws. He's absolutely right, but either not very well traveled or a self important troll. I'm guessing there's more to his story but it doesn’t cater to his crushed ego to publicize it.

  • L
    August 06, 2013 - 16:45

    I cannot believe the Telegram published this fake letter. "Gene Poole"?! Give me a break telegram. Losing your credibility here. The disgrace here is not the letter itself but rather the Telegram publishing such garbage.

  • Lena
    August 06, 2013 - 16:41

    "Gene Poole"? Come on -- this letter's obviously bogus. It was probably written by a discontented Newfoundlander who's trying in his or her own lame way to make a point.

  • J
    August 06, 2013 - 16:40

    Gene; your just another ignorant American that did not do proper research when you chose your destination. CBN would not have been on my list of the thousands of nicer places to spend your vaycay here in NL. Its unfortunate u had a less than desirable time but I have no idea who recommended CBN to u to spend more than overnight there and move on. Its a real shame u didn't see and experience more of our beautiful Island. Thanks for your tourist dollars though!

  • Miranda
    August 06, 2013 - 16:38

    Wow.. This hit close to home and is 100% true ... Even in St. John's, so don't feel alone, buddy! I moved here in 2010 and have finally decided to leave .. This island is no place for 'Non Newfoundlanders' ... The people here are a disgrace.. Even the employers here need their wrists slapped for treating us like shit. Good riddance, province. Maybe get your damn premier to stop focusing on oil and more towards the province's lifestyle.

    • tom
      August 11, 2013 - 22:38

      Agreed Miranda. Everything in the letter is true. Good luck.

  • Don Coast
    August 06, 2013 - 16:37

    I agree with Mr.Poole, only I think he did not go far enough but some of our people's opinion here have corrected that. Go to a store and the person serving you do not speak,only to the person she/he is not serving. You have to remember Mr. Poole thought he was coming to a place with nice people because we say we are nice. I have lived in other parts of Canada, and all over this island. In most of the towns I have lived in people have put us through a period of finding out "what we are like" and boy you better start being like them or you are made very uncomfortable. We are like the Sunday church goer who turns into the devil from Monday til Saturday night. People need to get manners and as some here have said we are the most jealous and hurtful people around. Take them in to your home and treat them nice and they leave and judge you and what you have in every way. We treat the clergy, the police, and other workers this way. Stop being so hurtful and act like the good person you say you are.

  • Noule
    August 06, 2013 - 16:30

    You had me at "Walking Trainers" & "PETA". What a pretentious Obamanaut hipster. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Sorry our normally amorous people weren't impressed with your rare music playlist. You best kiss my butt today for tomorrow I shower.

  • New to Newfoundland
    August 06, 2013 - 16:13

    I recently moved to Newfoundland with my famlily and I read the letter that was written and I had to laugh not because his view is not valid but when he mentioned the fast drivers... Well I have had the opposite experience your all slow drivers !! Driving slow is not such a bad thing but sometimes it's really a safety issue merging in front of some one on the highway doing 40 is unacceptable ! I do find there is a bit more rubbish in the ditches but that can be found anywhere. I too was under the impression that Newfoundlanders are the friendliest people in Canada well who wants to be friendly all the time I will sadly admit that I have encountered a high number of very ignorant, rude people since i've come here but you take the good with the bad. Not everyone is ignorant or rude, However with all that said, Newfoundland is the prettiest place to look at and my children are breathing clean air most of all I find that I don't worry as much with my children stepping out the door to play but a few extra sidewalks would be nice funny though your on vacation and your hanging at the mall fun times lol

  • Marilyn
    August 06, 2013 - 16:03

    So sorry that, according to you , you vacation was not a pleasant experience! However, please do not paint all of us with the same brush! If in fact, you are a genuine tourist, then this is a sad commentary about our beautiful province. That being said, NL is not alone in the descriptions you outlined. I have travelled inside and outside our country and extensively in the USA were many people we pleasant and courteous, while others left a lot to be desired! And by the way North Carolina is certainly not excempt from what you described! I spent three weeks in Durham and Raleigh, I was too scared to go shopping alone!

  • Rhonda
    August 06, 2013 - 15:59

    Dear Mr. Gene Poole.... I have to say that I was glad to read that you are not basing your rotten visit to one community in Newfoundland on all of Newfoundland... but realistically that IS what you are doing. If you wanted tranquility then you should have done more research before you visited. If I were looking for tranquility for the 'real' Newfoundland I would go somewhere like Twillingate... where people are friendly and are true Newfoundlanders.

  • Perry
    August 06, 2013 - 15:56

    This is one of heck of an article....basing your opinion about such a great place on what you experienced in one town is sickening. You should be ashamed about writing such an article! What you experienced isn't an anomaly, I bet you could hear and see exactly the same thing in any rural town. Why not travel to St John's, Grosse Mourne, Twilingate??? In what other province would you get invited to dinner, to shower, to sleep in a strangers house while touring the island on your harley? None, Newfoundlanders are the most hospitable people in Canada! Here is a perfect example... http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/148775.The_Day_the_World_Came_to_Town You should never ever ever be allowed to write ever ever again and should be ashamed for writing such an ill article about a great place.

  • Megan - Paradise
    August 06, 2013 - 15:54

    While readin this article, I'm nodding my head in complete agreement. I'm born and raised in rural newfoundland and now live in Paradise. While , yes I agree there are rude people world wide - I am sick of hearing how there is no place on earth life newfoundland, the people are like no other - friendly and hospitality second to none. My partner and myself are well travelled an spend much time in the states, and let me tell you my experience with people in general there is a thousand times better than here. You have people working for less than $3 an hour at restaurants who go above and beyond for you, and genuinely enjoy serving you. You can tell they take pride in their work. Even as simple as the Starbucks drive through, it's all yes mam thank you mam and have a great day! Here , the majority ( not all) of workers in the service industry act as if your annoying them and couldn't give a crap how your day is. Seeming miserable and just wanting their shift to be over. So all you Newfoundlanders getting all defensive, open your eyes - next time you walk in to a restaurant , look around I bet there are at least a few other patrons glaring you up and down, and then turning away without a smile. I'd imagine Mr Poole isn't the first tourist to be shocked by the lack of friendliness here - I'm a local and it blows me away at times. Just my two cents.

  • G
    August 06, 2013 - 15:53

    I find it very unfortunate that you feel this way about your visit to Newfoundland. However, I think it is important that you recognize that the expectations you had for NL were somewhat unrealistic. While Newfoundlanders are, in my opinion, some of the nicest people you will ever meet, that is not to say that each and every person will be the kindest, most generous person you've ever met. While Newfoundlanders are a wonderful group of people, we still deal with day to day challenges and issues that will at times result in arguments where things become heated. This is human nature. You may have heard neighbors in a disagreement, but you do not know the circumstances or the history behind this. People are emotional, and even the best people can say things that are inappropriate in the heat of the moment. I think it is unfair that you would judge others based on an argument you overhead in the short time you were on vacation. You do not know these people or their circumstances. In making this point, and some other points in your article, you were simply being picky, searching for anything you could find to judge and cast a negative light on what you hoped would be a dream vacation. Next, I'd like to discuss your issues with the shopping centres. You may think it is uncourteous when customers in the back of the line move to a newly opened register. In Newfoundland, this doesn't bother us because people are very laid back. We believe it is perfectly okay that our friends and neighbors standing behind us in the line move to the next register. We are doing them a favor; the next time we are in the back of the line and a new register opens, our neighbors will do the same. You have been looking at this scenario from the wrong perspective. You view those at the back of the line as being rude and uncourteous. I, being a Newfoundlander and feeling that I know my culture, recognize those at the front of the line as being kind and easy going individuals. Another thing you will find no matter where you go in Newfoundland, especially in smaller communities, is that people will park in front of the entrance. This idea is foreign to you, but common for us. If I went to the shopping center and found that no cars were parked in front of the entrance, this would be strange. Once again, this is a cultural difference, and hardly a reason for Newfoundlanders to be judged. It can always be a challenge to understand and appreciate cultures that are different from our own, however I don't think this merits the assumption that Newfoundlanders are uncourteous or unkind. I agree with you that trash and garbage can be an issue in our beautiful province, and I can understand your frustration at the noise cause by ATV's. Keep in mind though that you only visited one community in Newfoundland, a place where many residents probably get from point A to point B via ATV. This is a reality, and though it was unfortunate for you (you were expecting a quiet and peaceful vacation), it's what you find in many communities. Do people drive motor cycles in North Carolina? With regard to vehicle inspection laws. Yes, there are vehicle inspection laws. Not everyone is made of money in NL, and some people struggle to make ends meet. Did you ever think about the particular circumstances that lead to these individuals driving these cars? Do you think they prefer and old vehicle to a new one? I think it is very sad that you felt the need to point that out. Finally, animal cruelty?? Newfoundlanders as a group, as a province, as a culture are against animal cruelty. Like I said, "Don't judge a group based on few bad apples". To me, it is evident that you looked for any and every little issue you could possibly find to condemn Newfoundland because your vacation didn't live up to the utopian dream. Newfoundland is an amazing place - it's beautiful and scenic, it's filled with culture and passionate people who are kind and generous. I hope that you will give Newfoundland a second chance to live up to reasonable expectations. I believe that if you come in with a positive attitude and take the glass half full approach (instead of half empty) to viewing things, you will truly begin to appreciate the beauty of the province and the people. Keep in mind that you will experience cultural differences and it important that you don't judge or discriminate based on these differences. We may not be perfect, but Newfoundlanders are pretty great!

  • Catherine
    August 06, 2013 - 15:48

    BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a Publicity Stunt from PETA!!! Peta have an anti Newfoundland Campaign. The purpose is to deter tourists from visiting newfoundland due to the yearly Seal Harvest. They are trying to mess with another NFLD industry. Do not share or comment further!

  • Jenn
    August 06, 2013 - 15:37

    I'm sorry, have you ever been outside North America? Canada is an extremely clean place compared to most of the world, Newfoundland included. You also are generalizing Newfoundlanders like crazy. The select people who litter don't mean that the entire province hates the planet. You can't use "apparently" in an argument. If you don't really know anything about the alleged animal abuse, then don't say anything at all. Lots of the points you have are valid, but nowhere is perfect. Maybe if you got out of your own head and put aside your negativity, you could see the many, many beautiful things that Newfoundland has to offer. Just because something is different than you expected it to be, that doesn't mean it is doomed to be a terrible place.

  • Bonita
    August 06, 2013 - 15:32

    Very sorry for you experience,, it's terrible you had to experience the worst of Newfoundland,,,, you must have been at the wrong places at the wrong time,,,... BUT YOU DID NOT GET SHOT BECAUSE WE DON'T CARRY GUNS!!! that's a blessing. ,,,,

    • Henry
      August 06, 2013 - 18:06

      I guess Gene for all the travelling you have done & places you've been to ,you had your eyes closed.Your experience in Newfoundland & all you complain about happens everywhere,I venture to say even in North Carolina.Don't tarnish people & communities for a few assholes.

    • Kathy
      August 06, 2013 - 18:20

      Hey , "You went to Newfoundland not Disney land". What every you were dreaming off, wake up , give you head a shake. Shit happens in every province, maybe you were there at the wrong time and the wrong place. Hellooooooow. if you wanted peace and tranquility maybe you should have gone to Gilligan's island. seeeee ya

    • david
      August 06, 2013 - 18:52

      Exhibit A.

    • MCLOVIN
      August 06, 2013 - 20:22

      It's funny you should mention the fact that we do not carry guns, therefore, leading to less violent crimes so you think. You must be looking past all of the armed robbery cases in St. John's, and not to mention the story out of Corner Brook today with the shooting that killed 3 people. Everything said in this letter is valid. Do not forget that Mr. Poole stated at the first of the letter that he has seen some natural beauty and met friendly people. Also, he states at the end that he knows everyone is not like this. People argue, especially after a few beers in the evening. Like he said. ATV/dirtbikes/snomobiles all take over the streets at different times of the year. People definitely speed. Inspection only happens once a vehicle purchase and again if sold. Other than that, they can drive the vehicle until the wheels fall off. No PUN intended. People sit out front of shopping centres until their friend is done shopping. Lines are as well a problem. And last, but certainly not least, is the litter. You must have noticed the Mary Brown chicken boxes all over the place! Take a look around. I know people want to stand up for their Province. But certainly not every province is like this.

    • mitchell brooking
      August 06, 2013 - 20:36

      I been here all my life and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I don't know where u come from exactly but its in the US and from bombs to shoots its the norm for you. But a little speed and two people agruing frighting u off then saying good bye is probally the best. But one thing you didn't see the truth of what this island and the people that live are all about.

    • Laughing Gal
      August 06, 2013 - 21:05

      Hi Gene, You are funny. Thanks for the laugh. I assume the pun is intended, Mr Gene Poole. What part of the gene pool are you from anyway???? Ciao babe,

    • Nancy
      August 06, 2013 - 21:26

      I roared when I read this. Zing! A Newfie, now in Ontario.

    • james macdonald
      August 06, 2013 - 22:05

      Ahhh drat that's disappointing to hear. We live and try to learn from our mistakes. Everyone deserves a second chance and forgiveness is divine. I don't believe a second try would leave you disappointed.

    • Newfie
      August 06, 2013 - 22:24

      I would say of all the tourist that visit Newfoundland you are one of the few with negative comments. Poole isn't that a Newfoundland name. Probably you are a wanabe newfie. I don not believe all the bs you say happened if you did not like the place where you stayed why didn't you go somewhere else. North Carolina is no walk in the park so don't come to Newfoundland complaining about of people.

    • Kris
      August 07, 2013 - 09:18

      I am so sorry to hear what you have experienced. The beauty of nature you seek will not be found so close to out capital unfortunately. Its the small quaint towns that aren't connected to the "city" that will give you the experience that you are looking for. I live in a little town on the Burin Peninsula, and places like this little town my friend is where you will find the kindness and beauty. Reconsider your decision to re-visit our provience, and if you decide to come back, travel out and about away from out capital, and find what you are looking for, I assure you, it is here!

    • Dianne
      August 07, 2013 - 10:16

      I don't suppose you have time to listen to all the bad things about the states. There isn't enough time. I think this person is very rude and really not a nice person. There's all kinds of people in the world and all kinds of places. I dare you to show me one. I think you were the problem not everyone else.

    • sherry
      August 07, 2013 - 10:41

      i am so sorry for yourexperience but please don't let this detour you from our beautiful island maybe you should come back but this time stay on the west coast i promise you will love it and all it's beauty.

    • gp
      August 07, 2013 - 15:19

      "Gene Poole" really . Writers at the Telegram are hilarious. However way too many of these points hit home and those of us who live here know it. Stop pointing fingers folks we need to all do a little bit better. Get back to our roots and try to be kinder to one another. You may think that you can read this and not take it personally, but it truly is. This is our home. Lets try and do better. Regardless of the "fictional" source of this criticism.

    • Mary
      August 07, 2013 - 16:23

      Pleased to hear you and the people, who by choice associate with you, will not visit us in the future!

  • cPaul
    August 06, 2013 - 15:28

    Some time ago -- following Dr. Doug House's 1990 Crown Study recommendations on developing/diverting the NL economy away from a dependance on fish and welfare, the NL Department of Tourism, Culture and Recreation -- together with it's well-paid consultants -- created an ongoing advertising campaign which has projected an idealized "porn-version" of Newfoundland, in order to market what is now a thriving tourism industry. While distant folks who view ads may imagine that apple-cheeked Irish descendants such as Effie or Mable will be on the other end of the line to helpfully take their reservations... the truth -- and resulting vacation may not be so "special". Insane airfares; wet sleet showers in July; fog-socked harbours; Insane cracky dogs chasing rental cars down dust-choked back roads; saucy youngsters puking up lungs on George Street -- are all part of the "charm" of home... but maybe not quite what is advertised. That being said, a beautiful day in Newfoundland is worth 100 elsewhere.

  • Greg Lyons
    August 06, 2013 - 15:23

    I really wouldn’t give this moron’s opinion too much energy, he is so full of himself he isn’t capable of learning from another’s opinion of him anyway. If Poole wants to know why he was treated so poorly, then perhaps he should purchase a mirror; I too have traveled rather extensively and have found almost universally that people anywhere will welcome travelers who are courteous, unassuming and non-judgmental. But, I have little but distain for Americans who visit another country, and look down their noses at other people's habits and ways of living - Poole needs to read the "Ugly American", that assumes of course that anyone hailing from North Carolina is capable of reading. For myself, I have visited CB often and without exception, I have found the people there to be as warm and friendly as anywhere I’ve traveled. People here in the states remember the stories of the kindness of Newfoundlanders while the world crashed on 9/11. That is your legacy, Newfoundland – your people and their innate sense of good. Do the rest of us a favor Mr. Poole, stay home and keep your opinions to yourself.

  • David Barry
    August 06, 2013 - 15:20

    I stopped reading when I read that she was a member of PETA. People were probably caught wind that she was a member of PETA and were purposely trying to run her off the road. Moral of the story: If you're a member of PETA we don't want you here anyway.

  • JamesW.
    JamesW.
    August 06, 2013 - 15:15

    "To act with common sense, according to the moment, is the best wisdom I know; and the best philosophy, to do one's duties, take the world as it comes, submit respectfully to one's lot, bless the goodness that has given us so much happiness with it, whatever it is, and despise affectation." - Horace Walpole

  • Sarah
    August 06, 2013 - 15:13

    It's a shame you had such a bad experience. I suppose there's always some people who just happen by chance to experience the bad parts. I'm obviously biased because I'm from here and quite proud of my province and I understand you don't have many positive things to say but you shouldn't discourage people from visiting, because your experience is not the norm, it's the exception. Most people who visit here have a quite good experience, and usually come to the conclusion that mostly we are a friendly province but attitudes can change from town to town. There are of course some towns that are more friendly than others. Obviously, it's unlikely you are to travel back here, but if you did I highly doubt you'd have the same experience and if you did, then you're either the unluckiest person in the world, or it's not us, it's you.

  • TerriLynn Rimmer
    August 06, 2013 - 15:13

    I'm from Newfoundland. I'm really sorry you had this experience. And I agree with you. People do not know how to drive, and it's dangerous. I have no idea how everyone with half a brain gets their hands on a car. Sometimes I have to wonder if they even have a license. I understand the whole old Newfoundland friendliness. Me and a friend use to go down-town during the summer, grab a coffee, and walk around until we found lost tourists. We're after leaving restaurants early to take people to a different restaurant. We'd randomly show people around, tell them stories, or walk them to their destinations (and not accepting anything they offered later of course). Some of them may have gotten some unwanted exercise to moomoos icecream for turtle cheesecake icecream lol. If I knew you were here I would have taken you on some exceptional hikes full of refreshing berries. But with the town getting bigger and bigger, I've come to meet a whole lot of ass holes, too. They're everywhere, you're going to hear fights, unfortunate that you as a tourist had to witness it, many don't. I have neighbour who is always delusionally yelling at someone, everyone else is fine, but I know how you feel. I've very rarely heard of this animal cruelty you speak of though. If you heard of something please let the authorities know, that's for sure. I'm an animal lover. My uncle has a farm and keeps goats...and they are his babies. If he gives one away, it's as a pet. They are so so friendly. And yep, there are people out there who are seen around the town with their single pet goats now lol. I have however seen someone try to hit a cat with a shovel once. I immediately went up and grabbed the shovel, the person ran, and so I threw the shovel at him. Animal cruelty erks me to the point of people cruelty, apparently.

  • me,me
    August 06, 2013 - 15:02

    So what if it isn't his real name but he has hit the nail on the head !! I am very sad that u had to experience this ! we r all not like that !! I have lived away from Newfoundland for many years & moved back here a few years ago & find that most of the newfoundlanders r very rude & inconsiderate of others !! if u r not born here (my husband is what newfoundlanders call a mainlander) u r treated very bad & always told that he is taking jobs away from newfoundlanders !! (where the heck do u think most of the Newfoundlanders r ? not here, they r in other provinces WORKING !! & for all of u people that don't see what he has mentioned in this article !! OPEN ur EYES because i have experienced it myself....SAD,SAD,SAD our province is gone 2 the dogs :(

  • Marshall Art
    August 06, 2013 - 15:00

    I have to agree with every one of Mr. Poole's criticisms. I reside in Mount Pearl and, at 4: P.M. on Aug. 6, a man roared down our residential street on a quad. I called Municipal Enforcement to report it and got an answering machine. Walk on a sidewalk with your back to all the speeding vehicles and you're risking your life. At supermarkets, when a cashier opens his/her cash and says ' next in line ', there's a stampede by people behind you to get to that cashier's counter. Placing pylons in front of supermarkets so vehicles won't park in ' NO PARKING' zones ?. That doesn't stop the lazy slugs who simply move the pylons.

  • Samuel F Cole
    August 06, 2013 - 14:59

    I am a Newfie living in London Ontario, and even though I have not been home for a few years, I can not believe how much things can change in just a short time. For instance, as Newfies, one of our greatest attributes used to be the ability to pick out phonies and spot fakes, and with the exception of 1 or 2 people here, you have all been duped into wasting your energy on an obvious bogus commentary. If the name does'nt at first give it away then ( Gene Poole ) LMAO, then just look at every single comment made by this poser. If this piece of hogwash WAS NOT written by a Newfoundlander then time for us all to jump back into the Gene Pool...............Ha Ha Ha!

  • Neisha
    August 06, 2013 - 14:46

    Having decided this year, after viewing a picture of Newfoundland and researching MUN thoroughly that Newfoundland is the place I want to live, I find these comments and realities shocking. I am not however deterred. I still think its a beautiful place and the whole world is messed up and filled with selfish people. You will never find utopia. I am twenty and already I am disenchanted with the world. Everywhere you go, even here in Jamaica, my parents, my grandparents talk about the past. How good it was, how they never had to lock their door etc. how it as all changed. From the beginning of the article I figured more or less Gene Poole was an American. The self righteous and uppity comments is typical of their society. You notice it all the time when they visit the island and seem to think we are all backward and uneducated because Jamaica is a third world country. I know it's not really my place to comment but I had to. Here in Jamaica we have a saying 'no where is better than yard' and there isn't. At home no matter what you will always be accepted. However, despite how patriotic we are to our countries, we should always remember we are human beings first. Not the land mass we live on.

  • Agreed
    August 06, 2013 - 14:42

    I have to somewhat agree with this fellow. Newfoundlanders have no respect for their environment. The Avalon Peninsula is a dump and closer you get to St. John's the worse it is. I live CBS and while land disputes aren't often heard any more the rest of the stuff is true. Although there was an occasion a year or two ago where one "friendly neighbour" called the RNC because mowed grass blew over on his driveway. I've visited other provinces and they are far more beautiful than here when it comes to cleanliness. As for the people? I have yet to meet people from other places that are not as friendly as here. People here may talk more to strangers, but I've encountered more rude people here than any other province when it comes to basic manners and respect.

    • Doug
      August 06, 2013 - 16:34

      We visit NFL and met a freindy people !we went from stjohns to Corner Brook Stayed in Bed & Breakfast .Gros more park .We had a ball. I would love to go back and are planning to soon .On our travels we had no traffic problems . Other than a bull moose.I would tell everyone to go there .

  • Unknown
    August 06, 2013 - 14:40

    Don't base the rest of Newfoundland on your experience in one area... you did go to the worst spot here. Just saying!!

    • Jamie
      August 06, 2013 - 20:15

      Seriously?? And you're from............................................????

    • Mary
      August 07, 2013 - 13:42

      Really? Are you kidding me? All that happened to you and you didn't even get shot at? I guess that really threw you off! Did you think you were going to heaven? This is a beautiful place with wonderful people but it is not perfect! You are always welcome to come visit again, but with realistic expectations!

  • Sheri
    August 06, 2013 - 14:34

    I know we newfs like to think we are the most polite generous couteous people around but wake up people we all live in that fast pase world with the rest of them! Even if this is a fake letter its an eye opener to the fact that we forget when we rush into that store to grab milk cause we're out, that old Mrs.Hawco is trying to get in the store with her walker, or Mrs.Clarke with her three kids under 5 are tying to make their way by on that sidewalk and you parked your car acoss the sidewalk! And take a look around-Is your town clean? plan a clean up day if it is.have your neigbors donate old garbage cans and or collect money or buy some cans have them wired to the posts along the other streets! Have speed reduced for ATVs that are making their way to a trail. Everyone should Take a look around and if you all do some part then you've made it a better place for sure

  • Mary Carole
    August 06, 2013 - 14:13

    You do have valid points. I'll give you that but what your experience seems to be lacking is our ability to whine down... Yes we work and get caught up in the day to day like most folk but our talent, unlike most....is what we do after.... I think because of your inability to see and your high expectation, and like most people around you are destine for failure. Not because of who we are but because of who you are. No "Kitchen Party" for you.... Ya' know why? Cuz ya' don't fit in or belong.... P.S. Thanks for your "Tourist $$'s"

    • Embarrased
      August 07, 2013 - 05:40

      If your objective here was to validate the article completely...mission accomplished congratulations!

    • hockeyfannl
      August 07, 2013 - 10:46

      Your response proves his point to a tee.

  • Dawn Butt
    August 06, 2013 - 14:13

    I have been to north Carolina also and to many places throughout the world , let me tell you there are parts of North Carolina that is no walk in the park and people are rude, aggressive and ignorant just as Mr. Poole described here. But wherever you go in the world you are going have a "few bad apples". It seems to me that Mr. Poole was looking for paradise, I hope if he ever finds it that he lets the world know because I don't think its attainanble. I think Mr. Poole is not a very optimistic person and finds fault with a lot of things. Maybe if he took the time to look past the way people lived or troubles they were having and really looked around our beautiful province, he would have seen what everyone else raves about. A place where your kids can roam free, with no cares. Where you can sleep at night with your doors unlocked, where you can go next door and say hello, have a cup of tea and a bun. I think he should have spent more time saying hello to people and being friendly than complaining and making snide remarks. Sorry that you didn't like our province, but here's a common saying, "if you don't like it, there's the door". I don't think anyone here is going to miss you

    • Lori
      August 06, 2013 - 16:04

      I agree with Dawn Butt... I think Mr. Poole went looking for fault and not relaxation, and I'm pretty sure he didn't spend he's time walking in the ditches because of speeding soccer moms or anyone else. I do suspect however that Mr. Poole had he's mind made up about Newfoundland before he came here and he was on a mission not a holiday. I have been all over this great country of ours as well as many parts Stateside and believe me there are places far worse than our beautiful province; like Dawn politely put it " there's the door" and may I add "don't let it hit you on the way out "

    • christine
      August 07, 2013 - 15:26

      I didn't read where (Gene Poole) get it? was saying that NC was better then Newfoundland. simply stating that Newfoundland isn't what they had expected from stories they have been told. As far as rude people I can see that you must have been one of the Newfoundlanders they were talking about.

  • A Maritimer
    August 06, 2013 - 14:12

    There are NO Gardens of Eden just tourist traps spouting illusions everywhere. If you are looking for PLANET PERFECT it ain't this one hunny. Try any place after Labour Day or in winter to get the real feel of a place. When the cash registers slow down reality appears.

    • david
      August 08, 2013 - 07:51

      The Garden of Eden is PRECISELY what we have always told people, what our TV ads say, what everyone here believes without one ounce of information for comparison. It is a GD lie, in fact the exact opposite of the truth.

  • Anne
    August 06, 2013 - 14:11

    I have traveled over most of this gracious earth and found all these things wherever I've been. Don't take things so stiffly. I've yet to see or hear of someone traveling and not come back with 'horror stories' because it's not what you expected. No place is going to be able to compare to your ideal spot. I see the atrocious events that happened, but none of the good things. What did you expect to find here? Hippies living off the land!? Everyone argues. Just because we don't agree or get along with our neighbor, doesn't mean we don't get along with everyone else. At least we're not judging all Americans' land disputes by gang-related turf wars.

  • Laura
    August 06, 2013 - 14:03

    Mr. Poole, I am saddened to hear of such a horrible overall, experience. I am not sure if you experienced more of the island than the little house you rented- but if you did not, I would plead with you to come back and experience more places. NL is no different than any other place sometimes- we cannot disregard those things which you've witnessed. In fact, we should learn from this. I will say, that I would recommend many-MANY- places all around this beautiful island where I have been . I am a Newfoundlander and I CHOOSE to travel the island as my summer vacations. Each community and area is different and diverse in its beauty, climate and culture. Overall, we are certainly a culture of many beautiful things. Just this past Summer I recall driving the 'boot' and passing through communities where everyone waved to you as you drove along. I stayed in a community where the locals actually made me cancel my dinner plans and join them at their houses. A store lineup where those at the back of the line head to the new checkout- think outside the box here- The people at the FRONT of the line figure they're already close enough to the cash, let the other people get a bit of a break. A different perspective on the way in which we do things is not something you should title us all with in a negative manner. I thank you for being so passionate and taking the time to write this, and as an intelligent man, I hope you would reconsider your thoughts on returning to NL. One should never judge something as a complete entity until they have truely experienced and encountered all that it has to offer.

  • McLovin
    August 06, 2013 - 13:58

    I'm a Newfoundlander, lived her my whole life, I've done A LOT of travelling around the world and after reading the comments on this story, I have to say that I have never understood this province's dislike/bias toward Americans. As a whole, I find Americans to be much more friendly and accepting (especially towards NL) than our Canadian "friends". We make fun of Americans for not knowing anything of the world outside of the USA but if you asked many people from here, they probably wouldn't be able to tell you who our own Prime Minister is. In the meantime, I doubt the author of this letter is actually legit.... "Gene Poole"? Really? come on, there's no way that's real but that doesn't mean what's being said is not true because I actually find it bang on. Go to Costco on any given day and you'll experience almost everything that is pointed out in this letter. Try driving on the highway, you wont have to go very far before you experience deliberately attempting to block you from entering/exiting traffic, speeding up or slowing down to block you from passing, etc. The truth is that Newfoundlanders are a friendly bunch when they know you are a tourist or a friend of so and so from down the road, but the minute you turn your back the friendliness stops. There is even a divide amongst ourselves......Look no further than they Baymen/Townie rivalry....the fact is that we are an extremely jealous and nosey type of people and we would rather see other people not experience success if we are not experiencing it ourselves...The minute anyone proposes anything that is out of the ordinary in this City, people are looking for excuses to block it from happening, and the Telegram, VOCM, CBC they completely 100% support the negative and continually give these SAME naysayers a voice over and over and over again. People are still complaining about that stupid Harbour Fence.....get over it, it's a fence and it needed to be put up to protect people from their own stupidity!!! It's a very sad way of life for some people living here.

  • Lorna
    August 06, 2013 - 13:56

    Sorry Gene that you had a bad experience in Newfoundland. While I have seen and experienced some of the things you talked about, I do hope you realize that not all Nflder's are like that.

  • Wendy
    August 06, 2013 - 13:49

    I am a Newfoundlander and proud of it. I have always thought that we were the politest and most hard working people in Canada and maybe the world, we have lived with that distiction and have heard it for years. But think....are we really? Most Newfoundlanders are consumed with the almighty dollar and the me attitude that it is almost a crime really. We can hardly respect the laws of the province or the rules of the land when most of us do not respect ourselves!! Newfoundlanders do not take the time to appreciate what is their's and what is offered in their own province. We want everything yesterday and will run someone over to get it......sad really. I think we need to take a step back and make sure our guests are treated with respect, and yes they will have opinions on our island, negative or positive, as you have opinions of places you have been. I do tend to agree with some of the negatives he has posted (ATV's, speeding, littering) It is because there is no respect and we have to start respecting or we will loose alot. There are quite a few communities and towns that depend on tourism to get them through the year so they do not end up in the poor house or have to move away. But if we do keep the way we are going with the bad attitudes and lack of respect, it will happen. Show respect and be good natured like we have been taught and have been. Live in the real world not a reality TV show. We know better then that, God Guard Thee Newfoundland

  • Living outside Newfoundlnd
    August 06, 2013 - 13:43

    WOULD PREFER NOT TO MAKE ANY COMMENT- NOT ENOUGH SPACE AVAILABLE HERE:

  • Terry
    August 06, 2013 - 13:43

    It's true. We were recently voted as the second most unfriendly province in Canada, the first being Quebec. We are the most judgemental people that Canada has to offer. We constantly ridicule everything and everyone out of the ordinary and socially outcast almost anyone with an IQ over 100 or anyone who expresses the capacity to accept and understand new ideas. We are obsessed with status and rank and feeling superior to everyone around us. Those in small towns are so bored and feel so small and insignificant that they will do or say just about anything about someone or cause as much drama as possible just to feel like they lead worthwhile lives. But they don't. I actually hate thinking about it. Makes me ashamed of my roots.

  • Maria Rebecca
    August 06, 2013 - 13:35

    haha I have to laugh at all of you that are so quick to defend our wonderful "friendly" people here in Newfoundland. Makes me kind of wonder if you too have displayed some of the behavious Mr. Poole encountered here on his "vacation" and are now just embarrassed. I am a Newfoundlander born and raised in St. John's, and consider myself to be a very caring,freindly and compassionate person. Unfortunately, I have experienced first hand what Mr. Poole has experienced. Drivers here do race around like crazy lunatics who are always in a hurry to go somewhere, and will go to extremes to get there...and you people cannot deny that. As for the lineups at shopping centers...nail on the head...i have seen people at the end of the line knock people over to be the first in line at a new register...although I have noticed that cashiers now are starting to ask for the "next person in the lineup". and i also have had to walk around cars parked on crosswalks because people are either A-too lazy or B-too fat or C-too fat and lazy to find a parking spot and walk to the entrance...shamefull! I love my province and the people in it, but I have to say that there are a hell of a lot of people here that are giving newfoundland a bad reputation. I work at a restaurant in the city where people from out of town love to come and their ignorance amazes me! snapping their fingers, raising their glasses at me with a mouth full of food, instead of asking" may I please have a refill",it's disgusting! No, please no thankyous,sometimes I dont even get a head nod....and it makes me laugh to think that people call us the friendliest people on earth....when,as you can clearly see from most of your comments how ignorant we can be and how quick we are to judge people. The point Mr. Poole made about the litter is also very true, everyday i drive the outer ring road and everyday i see garbage on the on and off ramps that people had thrown out of there cars...mcdonalds bags, tim hortons, even garbage bags full...i have even had people in my car that have thrown wrappers of some sort out of the window and have I been appauled by it. ridiculous! I have reported more people than I can count for animal cruelty in my own neighbourhood here in st. john's and no one can disagree that there have been more and more animal cruelty cases here in newfoundland than ever before. Mr. Poole is just simply stating a fact! There are always people racing up and down roads in my neighbourhood on their dirtbikes and i'm scared for their lives and the people around them! I have even had freinds that have been issued citations for this act...it is absolutely disgraceful! and no,mr. Poole, this is not allowed in our province! so, finally I have to say that instead of lashing out at what Mr. Poole had to say about his short visit to Newfoundland, maybe we should take it as a wakeup call to what our province is becoming and fix the problem...take a moment to think about your behaviours, your words and your actions. this is what our province is becoming. so instead of firing back at Mr. poole with these nasty comments, why dont you stop being so ignorant to what is actually going on around you. smarten up! p.s Mr. Poole, I apologize on behalf of newfoundlanders for your horrible experience, but I have to agree with Jennifer and her comment on where you had travelled in our province. Gros Morne is amazing and so is western. St. john's does have some pretty freindly people too :)..i have to say. So, I hope you will consider revisiting and maybe hitting the right spots the next time :)

    • Paul
      August 06, 2013 - 13:49

      all these things are true, but to write off the whole province and the people, based on these complaints is to simply focus on the negative...while fuming about these negatives, this person probably missed a lot of positives.

    • Nikki S
      August 06, 2013 - 13:53

      I cringed at the first part of this because I read "Conception Bay North". No wonder it was such a bad experience. I have been all over Newfoundland and lived in a few different areas of NL, mainly St. John's. I lived in Bay Roberts for about 7 months while my man was taking a trade out there at the Canadian Training Institute. My experience was EXACTLY the same. People out there are not only rude, but neighbors can get extremely nasty, for no reason. I don't get why of all the places in the province, this person chose the worst area. It sucks for the rest of us. Townies are absolutely the description of friendly Newfoundlanders. I just moved away, a few months ago for work and living in Edmonton right now and I find most people here can be quite rude, I can't wait to go back home to St. John's! And as for the butting in line, I've lived all across Canada and it's the same everywhere I've been in that regard. Anywayyy, it sucks that a lot of asshole Newfies are ruining our rep.

    • Linda Palfrey
      August 06, 2013 - 14:27

      I have to agree I moved here last year from Ontario and really to go into a store and the one in fronte of you just let's the door go twice I have nearly been hit by a door and just like been state they parked anywhere right in fronte of the door at the store I am sorry put the younger generation have no manners most of them are just down right rude

    • Maureen, a displaced Newfoundlander.
      August 06, 2013 - 20:24

      I agree with Maria, I am from Newfoundland but I have not lived there for quite some years, I think we need to see these types of comments has "Wake up Calls". In the last couple years I have visited my home community, along with some surrounding areas and even the "Sin City" itself - "St. John's, AKA Sin Jawns". I have to say that when I was growing up the smaller communities had a movement where they started to take pride in the communities and clean up, Students were even hired on summer jobs to clean up the community and beaches; now when I head back it looks like something I remember from my early teens (littered with fast food cartons and junk food rubbish); I can certainly say I was disappointed. I still go back and plan another trip this year, I just hope that someday when I go back the pride in a clean, healthy, happy community is reinstated we no longer have to be concerned about comments like this from Mr. Poole.

    • Dave
      August 06, 2013 - 21:37

      You are so correct. I am embarrassed when I hear things like this, however, far too many Newfoundlanders will simply brush it off and say something really ignorant and arrogant instead of trying to change their behaviour. Let's face it...we are rude, we are dirty and have no consideration for the place in which we live, and sadly, we are NOT as friendly as we like to think.

    • Dave
      August 06, 2013 - 21:49

      You are so correct. Instead of criticizing this man for his sincere comments we should listen to what he is saying and take heed. Sadly, many Newfoundlanders are dirty (Look at all the recent stories on illegal dumping!), rude, and NOT as friendly as we like to think.

  • Steve
    August 06, 2013 - 13:35

    At first this article made me a littley annoyed. But take a step back and ask yourself....this is a POV from someone from the outside so therefore, they will notice behavior that we as locals will come to accept as the norm. There are a lot of societal norms that I find dissapointing. 10-20 years people were not lazy, disrespectful....nowadays it's becoming more commonplace. Take the criticisms and ask yourself, what can I do to improve myself or community. If you see people acting out in ways as described, don't just shrug your shoulders. Confront the issue. People don't hold anyone accountable anymore. We just complain or phone the police or whine on telegram message boards. No one has the stones to take action to call out those who behave in rude, disrespectful, dangerous or ignorant manners. You want to live in a good community, you need to root out idiots otherwise their behavoir will only spread and will be accepted as normal / tolerable.

    • PaulNorthRiver
      August 06, 2013 - 14:06

      "this is a POV from someone from the outside" I seriously doubt it. This was likely a letter written by a resident posing as a tourist for added "impact". Gene pool, indeed.

  • Terry
    August 06, 2013 - 13:34

    It's true, in fact we were recently listed officially as Canada's second most unfriendly province, the first being Quebec. I'm an optimist, but even I notice what it's like here. We are an extremely judgemental and nosy people borderline obsessed with status and rank, trying to feel superior to others in order to have self-esteem. A visiting psychologist called this "Big Fish Small Pond Syndrome". Basically it's a kind of cabin fever where we know we are constantly being observed and judged and after a while we will do anything to come out on top. Well, those who aren't very intelligent anyway, which I'm sad to say is most of the people here, in all reality.

    • Unknown
      August 07, 2013 - 07:43

      I am not sure where you receive your facts but when I googled Newfoundland for being the second most unfriendly province I found this link with this information: http://abacusinsider.com/marketing-advertising/canada-best-worst-provinces-2013/3 Most and Least Friendly People 2013 Most Friendly: Newfoundland and Labrador (22%), Quebec (16%), Nova Scotia (12%) Least Friendly: Quebec (46%), Ontario (29%), Alberta (8%) 2012 Most Friendly: Newfoundland and Labrador (26%), Quebec (14%), Nova Scotia (11%) Least Friendly: Quebec (45%), Ontario (27%), Alberta (12%) Place Canadians Would Most Like to Visit 2013 Most Like to Visit: British Columbia (33%), PEI (13%), Newfoundland and Labrador (12%) 2012 Most Like to Visit: British Columbia (29%), PEI (17%), Newfoundland and Labrador (16%) We are however ranked third for the worst managed province.... Best and Worst Managed 2013 Best managed: Alberta (35%), Ontario (21%), British Columbia (14%) Worst managed: Quebec (43%), Ontario (23%), Newfoundland and Labrador (7%)

  • Glen
    August 06, 2013 - 13:31

    There are many ugly things that are found and heard no matter where you are visiting or staying on a holiday and if you live in North Carolina...I am pretty sure there are people racing down the streets, butting in ahead of you in line at the shopping center and acting overall like someone crazy...and if you tell me otherwise then...You must be living in North Carolina Heaven - It must be a gated community you live in Sir and YOU DON'T GET OUT MUCH!...because if you were looking for the good times and experiences here in Newfoundland ...YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND THEM and there wouldn't be NOTHING to complain about...but people like you always got your ears and eyes open for STUPID letters like this one...Thanks for the visit but WE ARE GLAD YOUR NOT COMING BACK! :)

    • Mary
      August 06, 2013 - 14:07

      I have to agree with you Glen.

    • Kelly
      August 06, 2013 - 14:39

      I agree with Glen. There are ugly things and inconsiderate people everywhere. We are human beings. Do things need to improve in certain areas? Yes, of course they do, but no person, community, town or city is perfect. When pointing a finger at someone else there are 3 pointing back at you. I'm sorry you had a bad experience here Gene, but there are so many wonderful people and beautiful places to visit. Do some research and give us another try. As for everyone jumping on the bandwagon to criticize Newfoundland, go live somewhere else for a few years, you'll appreciate Newfoundland a whole lot more.

    • Wendy
      August 06, 2013 - 14:44

      " Thanks for coming " " Thanks for leaving " !!!!

    • Jean Rose
      August 06, 2013 - 18:44

      We Newfoundlanders are just HUMANES like everyone else .I am sure where you come from everyone is not perfect .

  • Crystal
    August 06, 2013 - 13:25

    Being a NL myself, I became a little sour when I first starting reading this article, and once I finished reading a couple lines I knew right away you were from the US because of previous experiment with people from the US. I honestly have to agree with the some of the points you made, but feel really sorry that you decided to stay in the one area during your vacation. You really should have visited the West Coast especially areas such as Gros Morne National Park. I still think its quite disrespectful of you to be writing articles of such in out Newspaper!!!! But then again I wouldn't expect any differ from you!

  • Pam Rose
    August 06, 2013 - 13:20

    I was wondering where this rude person writing their point of view was....then I saw you are American. That explains it. Brainwashed from cradle to grave. If you have ideas on how to make tourists more comfortable, say so. I agree the things you experienced were wrong, but they are not limited to this beautiful, friendly land. As for things that are just cultural differences, accept and move on, better yet stay in your racist, garbage ridden, neglected children, grovelling government, abused animals, dwindling education, deteriorating infrastructure, white money rules, waring nation. I hear Detroit is lovely this time of year.... take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZxjb4gB93A I love Canada, especially Newfoundland! Sorry American, you are not what you think

    • cavell
      August 06, 2013 - 15:11

      agree with you pam

    • Debbie
      August 06, 2013 - 17:25

      And you just proved how judgemental Newfoundlanders cam be. You're upset about him making assumptions based on a few people, yet you're doing the exact same thing. Bravo.

    • hockeyfan
      August 06, 2013 - 20:58

      Have you ever been to the USA? With what you have said my guess is no. Everything this man has said in this letter is bang on. I have been to the USA quite often and for the most part Americans are the nicest people on the face of the Earth. No wonder so many NLers moved there years ago. No racism in NL? What in the name of God do you call the townies putting the baymen down and vice versa? All of the problems you mentioned America has NL had them too. Believe me NL could take A LOT of lessons from Americans when it comes to tourism especially in light of that fiasco of a Salmon Fest last month.

    • NewfieGirl
      August 06, 2013 - 20:59

      That is quite the eye-opening video Pam Rose. Thank for posting that link. It really is too bad that the person who wrote this letter did not visit better parts of NL. I have always viewed Newfoundlander's as salt of the earth ppl who would give you the shirt off their backs. One good example would be the generosity that was extended to the Americans in Gander when they were stuck there on 9-11. Many friendships were forged as a result. I agree that its not like the good old days when everyone would help out the neighbor if they were going through hard times, or needed help launching a boat or repairing a roof. I no longer live in a tiny outport but have all good memories from when I did. All I remember is the community working together as one. I know times have changed. This generation is faster and a lot look out for number one. Its like this all over the world but that does not mean its the right way to be. This persons experience is unfortunate but it does not reflect what all of Newfoundland is like.

  • Danny Boy
    August 06, 2013 - 13:16

    A lot of bias people in this comment thread. I am from and live in Newfoundland, I would agree with him on some points, but I would have to say he made a mistake on the "Location of Choice." I haven't been as far as western Newfoundland yet, but I think central Newfoundland is fairly good for a getaway for a week or two. St.John's(Where I live), is getting worst and worst every year, it is probably why they do not show it in the tourism ads. If I was "Gene" I would have done more research on the best spots to stay but other than that I could agree with him on almost every point.

  • Jean
    August 06, 2013 - 13:15

    Having moved back to NL about 13 years ago, I have found most Newfoundlanders friendly but mostly to me and not my husband as he is considered a CFA (come from away) . The comment the lady made about her daughter is true, they are friendly if you are a tourist or just visiting for awhile but live here and it is a different story. Also the speeding is terrible especially through the small towns. Unfortunately we do not have enough police to be able to monitor this. I have known people who have moved here from other provinces only to leave because they are not accepted. I think Gene hit the nail on the head on a lot of the things he spoke about. When shopping in other places if there is a long line up and a new cashier opens up, they say could I help the next person in line, here everyone at the back rushes to the new cashier, not considering that they have not been waiting as long as #2 in the line. We do have some things to fix in this province but it is still beautiful.

  • Andrew H
    August 06, 2013 - 13:12

    Initially when I read this I thought wow that's terrible that he didn't have a good time in NL... But as I thought about it more and more, I said to myself "what a whiney little b***h". You mean to tell me that because some people drove a little over the speed limit or because you got the impression that normally people didn't be courteous in a grocery store line up, or that you overheard someone fighting over land with a neighbour, or because a few people were lined up with their cars outside a grocery store, or you noticed a bit of litter.... that ultimately those factors would deter you from spending THOUSANDS of dollars on a vacation to NL...? Those factors? Really? No mention of hotel amenities, or that maybe the sights weren't what you expected from the advertisement on tv... or the the cost of stuff in the area... You know, real stuff people talk about after their vacation... I'm not even acknowledging the animal stuff because that's ridiculous. I wonder what kind of conversations you might overhear in Mexico... Not gonna stop me from going back. Or what about North Carolina, where this guy is from. I'm sorry you didn't feel we were progressive enough for you... Meanwhile, back at the ranch a gay couple can't get recognition, can't adopt and as a state has no discrimination protection laws for sexual orientation in 2013. I also don't feel comfortable that you feel you should just be able to own a gun. That puts North Carolina on the top of my vacation to-do list... Not. You won't be coming back, Gene? We don't want ya back.

    • Cindy
      August 06, 2013 - 14:10

      Wow, you just proved Gene's point. You, sir, are a rude bully.

    • lori m
      August 06, 2013 - 17:34

      i have to agree with Cindy, you certainly proved the point of the editorial!! What is ABSOLUTELY more amazing to me is how many of you were so quick to jump all over the comments made without so much of a thought of using your brain and REALLY reading the editorial in the way it was written!!! Surprised to see how many can't see past their own ignorance to realize it is nothing more than a method of pointing out how quickly and easily we can all get caught up in our own little world and forget about anything else than what WE feel!! it is a HUGE WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! it isn't even a REAL letter!!!! so many are so quick to judge and get all indignant that the whole purpose of the article just whizzed past your brain!! We here in Newfoundland used to be thought of as kind of the land that time forgot! i always thought of that as being a great thing because back in the day life was a LOT simpler, not so much hustle and bustle, not so much technology taking over our lives..our priorities were different and people seemed so much happier for it! This article was supposed to be a reminder that some of us have lost our focus on what is important, our sense of direction and what it is we want to leave behind as our legacy! really Andrew H, Glen and all the other commenters who could only take from this an opportunity to criticize, insult or make reference to the nationality of the poster, is THAT the kind of thing you want to be remembered for?? if everyone who read this took a second to think about it and look inside to see if they see any of these behaviours in themselves and if they do, correct them, can you imagine how much better our lives could be??

    • Andrew H
      August 07, 2013 - 11:58

      @ Cindy: OH yes what a awful bully I am... For pointing out that Gene hasn't mentioned anything that normal people talk about when on vacation, and for pointing out that North Carolina isn't Gay friendly and they feel they should have guns. YES WHAT A TERRIBLE BULLY I AM. lol lol lol. Get a life Cindy.

    • Andrew H
      August 17, 2013 - 14:01

      The only disturbing thing for me was to learn that Cindy isn't the only person not bright enough to read my post and understand what I was saying. Wow, you learn something new every day.

    • Andrew H
      August 17, 2013 - 14:11

      Some people forget how big Newfoundland is. It takes 9-10 hours to drive from Stephenville to Fortune. Each town is so different. Different accents as well. Someone from St. Anthony does not have the same accent as someone in Grand Falls. So how can you judge ALL OF NEWFOUNDLAND by one little visit to CBN. It's unfortunate Gene Poole hasn't taken the time to explore the rest of the island... But given his quick judgement, i'm not sure it would matter.

  • Fred
    August 06, 2013 - 13:10

    check this site out! http://www.city-data.com/forum/north-carolina/20673-worst-towns-north-carolina.html

  • SB
    August 06, 2013 - 13:05

    I was born and raised in Newfoundland. Moved away after I got married. I have to agree with this man. After living in other parts of Canada and then moving back here about 4 years ago, I must say that there are alot of rude people here. Drivers are horrible, nobody obeys any rules. I have to walk my 8 year old to her bus stop across the street (literally, across the street) because nobody will stop when she is waiting at the crosswalk. I'm not saying all Newfoundlanders are this way, but maybe if people saw what it's like elsewhere, they might too realize just how bad it really is here. Hopefully moving out of Newfoundland soon...personally, I can't wait!

    • arthur osmond
      August 06, 2013 - 20:13

      Reading the comments about this and that, but I was always thought to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Some people get taken up to much on the things in life that do not and will not matter in time to come. It starts with your inner self . greed causes a lot of heartache in the end, so give with a willing heart and expect nothing in return Mr Poole and things in life will seem and be quite different for you. take a walk in the woods or go out on the water and thank God that you are breathing again this day. don't grumble be thankful, and I'm a Newfie living in BC those people are here to but I don't dwell on that.i'm proud to be a Newfoundlander but that is not determined by others . Home town Birchy Bay ,NL, Thank You.

  • Maria Brain
    August 06, 2013 - 13:04

    He is right. Simply put, but doesn't every place have people who argue? Butt in line? Drive fast? I'm saddened to hear your trip wasn't what you were expecting. Hopefully this negative will turn into a positive and the people that have read this will take more effort in changing bad habits and be more respectful. This could be applied to every town, city, province, country or state. Safe travels.

  • Chris
    August 06, 2013 - 13:00

    What other places did this person actually visit besides Conception Bay North? If they actually stayed on the Eastern parts of the island for the entire visit they obviously limited themselves and are making some very sterotypical remarks. I have recently visited Florida and had a horrible visit there, ie. ignorance, impatient human beings, litter etc. however Im not going to base that visit on my entire perception of the state of Florida. Obviously an uneducated human being with a disheartened outlook on life in general. I too have visited North Carolina and I would never give up any more of my holidays to ever go there again!!! In my case though, I'd never write about it and share it on the internet. Thank goodness this person will never be revisiting!! lol

  • Rod
    August 06, 2013 - 12:55

    Back in 1990 CBS had busy roads, been gone myself for 15 years so I would imagine its like the outskirts of any city now. In the Government commercials they show the real outports. The poster if he wanted peace and quiet should have got over is fears and went further from the city, LOL If your staying next to Tim Hortons your in a modern society next to a busy highway!??? As for the land dispute he listened too, was their and guns involved? Had he been in is home town he probably would have been caught in the crossfire. The poster is entitled to his opinion, don't forget, even if it is wrong. Come back again OP, but next time don't be afraid to get away from the major centres and I'm sure you will have a much better experience!

  • Jim
    August 06, 2013 - 12:51

    Big talk from a person from the most regressive state in America. I guess voter's rights aren't for everyone.

  • RubberBoots
    August 06, 2013 - 12:47

    oh my heart bleeds for him. from the sounds of it he got what he deserved. I have traveled the globe and still come back to Newfoundland twice a year sometimes 3 if i am lucky. from the sounds of his petty complaints - if he broke a fingernail he would cry. Newfoundland is a beautiful place, and full of great people. I do agree It is changing people money hungry - that's the younger crowd. too much influence from American TV. Also, How many Newfoundlanders moved away to the mainland and were treated like dirt for their accents and being a "newfie" made fun of.. only difference is we didn't go crying to mommy and daddy. There is always one.... In the words of a great radio presenter - Oh The Crowd He Died For!!

  • Elizabeth
    August 06, 2013 - 12:44

    I'm so sorry that you've had an unpleasant time here. I also apologize that you've received such negative remarks and responses to your very honest, and refreshing letter. Thank you for that, sincerely. You're right in understanding that not all of us are harsh-mouthed, or disrespectful of what and who we have around us. The fact of the matter is that we're growing, and there are some growing pains that accompany that. Some people cling dearly to the reputation that precedes our generation, most crave to move forward - but at what sacrifice? There are some parts of us, as Newfoundlanders, that we might be wise to cling to as morals - like compassion and kindness and open-heartedness. I think we can move forward without compromising who we are at heart, despite the new rush of 'the real big city' way.

  • Amanda R
    August 06, 2013 - 12:42

    I had a "not so pleasent" visit to the u.s.a. I did not sit and dwell on it long enough to write their newspaper, lol. and if I did, I'm pretty sure they would not have published it! Everywhere you go, you could find something to complain about. I am a proud newfoundlander! I wouldn't dream about raising my kids somewhere else! Some people are NATURAL complainers, which we see here. I agree with some points, yes. BUT, judging a whole province by your experience here is unfair and just puts you in that group of unfriendly people. Yes, people are nosey, ignorant and self centered. And you will meet people like that where ever you go. Also people who OVER exaggerate........

  • linda
    August 06, 2013 - 12:40

    What you have said maybe true. I grew up In Newfoundland and I think its a wonderful place to live and raise your children. Also, I would like to say when I finished high school I went to Ontario. so I have met my share of people. What you have said is everywhere. Only difference about Newfoundland we will not kill you when you walk down the street or will we rob you of everything. Yeah we all have our differences and our difference of opinion. But don't get there and critique us when where you come from is no better. Also, everywhere you go in Newfoundland is different. Just because you had a bad experience in Conception Bay don't mean that's the same all over. Its obvious to me that you did not travel when you were there. Us Newfoundlanders do not appreciate you coming here and then rag all over us because you had a bad experience in one small town. Don't you think you should get to know someone before you judge. But its just a matter opinion and I don't think that your opinion really matters to us Newfoundlanders, we will carry on with our lives the same has if you never visit. So whatever you experienced would be the exact same everywhere else.

    • Sonia Harvey- st. John's
      August 06, 2013 - 22:02

      Then I must be living in the best part of Newfoundland! People don't cut in front of me when a new cashier is open, people in my neighborhood don't fight. Yes, on the highway there are cars that want to speed ahead of me - They can by just moving into the fast lane. I have traveled a lot and I find my own people, friendly and caring. Also, we don't have to worry about someone shooting our heads off if they don't like the way we drive. I consider Newfoundland and it's people beautiful. I have been to the States and traveled Europe. When I come home it delights me to see the friendly faces of my own Newfoundlanders. They will have a chat with anyone. Listen to the problems of complete strangers in supermarkets - they care. I love my province and my people.

  • paulSt.John's
    August 06, 2013 - 12:27

    This letter is not from a tourist, it is from a resident and Gene Pool(e) is a fake name. How long was Gene visiting us to be nearly run over by speeding cars "several times"? Get real.

  • Mary M
    August 06, 2013 - 12:24

    Wow! Seriously? Was this guy really in Newfoundland? I've been to Newfoundland. It's absolutely glorious! The people are so kind and friendly and generous! The landscapes and seascapes are amazing. The food...OH MY GOD...the food! Granted, I didn't go to "the mall" when I was there. Who the he** goes to the mall when they're on holiday? But I shopped in any number of tiny shops in out-of-the-way (and not so out-of-the-way) places, and again...kind, friendly, generous. I travelled from one side of The Rock to the other, and one of the things we (my 2 sisters, my mum, and I) commented on, repeatedly, was how CLEAN it was there.

    • Newfie Proud
      August 06, 2013 - 19:21

      Glad you enjoyed your visit!

  • paulSt.John's
    August 06, 2013 - 12:20

    Stay calm folks...this is not a real letter from a real tourist. This is a fake letter from someone pretending to be a tourist (for a bigger impact perhaps). "On numerous occasions, I have had to step into the ditch or wild bushes" Gene Pool (ha ha ha ) was here so long that this happened "numerous" times? "I have noticed something that is different here than anywhere else I have lived. When another cashier opens up due to a line-up, people at the back of the line run over to the newly opened cash." How often did this happen to you Gene? It must have been quite often for you to notice it. You aren't fooling this Newfoundlander.

    • lori m
      August 06, 2013 - 17:48

      if those are the only things you got from this then obviously they are fooling you because the whole point/purpose of the article went right by you warp speedit!!

  • Marg
    August 06, 2013 - 12:08

    Gene should have visited Central Newfoundland. Talk to any of the Americans and people from various other countries of the world who were strained in Gander when their airplanes were forced to land here during 9/11. I doubt if you would find one with a negative comment about our town, our people and the way they were treated during their stay here.

  • Nancy B.
    August 06, 2013 - 12:04

    Clearly, Gene Poole...you come from a negative, critical Gene Pool. Yeah, I don't believe that is your name, first of all. If you are going to say something so negative, stand by it with a real name.) Pfffft. Secondly, I hope you take the time to write positive letters too so that your terribly bad energy is balanced somehow. It must be sad to feel the need to dump your negativity all over us here in Newfoundland. Glad you're out of here.

  • Billy
    August 06, 2013 - 12:03

    Who cares what you think....56 murders 218 rapes and 1600 robberies in Charlotte N.C. last year not including the rest of the state, clean your own house before you complain about ours.

    • Sonya
      August 07, 2013 - 11:24

      Good one , but I really do care when someone leaves our province with such a negative opinion .

  • Brittany
    August 06, 2013 - 12:01

    So sorry you had such a terrible experience. Most of what you said is completely true, people are becoming more rude all the time, not just in nfld. The only thing I didn't understand is that you stated you were a member of peta, one of the most cruel animal 'rights' groups out there. They kill like 90% of the animals they bring in! Also, from my own personal activism I have noticed that the Carolinas have the most high kill shelters in your country, competing only with California. There's animals cruelty everywhere, I don't find NFLD any worst except for the lack of funding, rescues and resources in place to help. Please really research PETA, I supported them at one point until I did further research. They're truly evil and do WAAAY more harm than good.

  • V.
    August 06, 2013 - 11:58

    Yeahhhh...because NC is sooo much better. Stay home out of it, NL doesn't want or need you.

  • Janine
    August 06, 2013 - 11:55

    It seems like Gene is the kind of person who looks for all the bad things and remembers those. I imagine Gene's experiences throughout the world are the same as this negativity is more a reflection of Gene than of Newfoundland and Labrador. Judging an entire province on one small community is small minded. We're glad to see you go, Gene...good riddance, I say.

  • Claudine Prosper
    August 06, 2013 - 11:54

    Maybe you should have gone to a travel agent. You have missed the great part of Newfoundland when you did not visit the West Coast. If it was majestic beautiful you were seeking then you should have gone to Gros Morne Park, up the Great Norther Peninsula. You apparently did not do your homework or you just do not know how to research you travel!

  • Kerri
    August 06, 2013 - 11:51

    God forbid you had to walk around a few cars. And for your information, there are thousands of volunteers across NL in all regions who work with animal adoption groups with a no kill policy. When an animal is in need, the people of NL dig into their own pockets to pay for their vet bills, etc. you cannot judge NL by staying in one community; I'm sure that not every square inch of North Carolina is perfect! No matter what head of lettuce you buy, there are always some bad spots; there are many more positives than negatives in this province! Please start focusing on the good things around you; if not you will lead an unhappy life. That's my advice, take it or leave it!

  • Jennifer
    August 06, 2013 - 11:50

    Who invited you? I guess you stayed where you could get the cheapest rate for a room!

  • doug
    August 06, 2013 - 11:48

    I totally agree with the author of this article, terrible drivers, they don't stop at stop signs, pass on the right or stop in the middle of the road talking to a buddy. In my town you could sit 10 minutes trying to make a left turn due to people leaving church on sunday, kinda ironic when you think of it. The hospitality industry's manners are very poor, people! there is nothing wrong with saying "thank you" or "your welcome". The amount of garbage on the roads (macdonalds, kfc and tims is staggering, guess its the refuse of an OBESE society. If you are a visitor here and are touring around the bay don't expect gourmet meals at rest stops, one would think that considering the island is surrounded by ocean that fresh seafood would be abundant, but is usually frozen fare, very disappointing and can only imagine what visitors think.

  • Donna
    August 06, 2013 - 11:40

    Our daughter moved to St. John's several years ago, first to go to MUN, and then she found (so she thought), the job of any young person's dreams. My husband and I flew out 2 years ago, for a holiday, to visit her and see the sights. We stayed in the city, rented a car, and drove to all the touristy spots. We had a good relaxing time. On our last night, our hotel had several locals from the area, come in, sing and play their instruments, while we had a late supper. They were terrific. We did not encounter any negative sights, staff in the hotel, stores or restaurants, either in the city or while driving out to the country areas. Why I am responding to this article, is because of the way my daughter has been treated. The majority of students at the University, being from the area, were not friendly, or receptive to welcoming a newcomer, she being from the Mainland. She loved her job to begin with, but as time went on, she was made to feel unwelcome - jokes at her expense, sexual harassment, etc. etc. There was nobody to turn to, as her boss treated her just as bad. She gave it her best, and is not a complainer, but a young lady can only take so much. I certainly believe her now, when she tells us that there seems to be rules for the tourists (for the most part), as the island wants their dollars, and other rules for those who live there - not being a "native", she was constantly put down for her "accent", her clothes, hair style, etc. She is moving from Newfoundland in the near future, and I know she will be less stressed and happier for leaving. I have lived and worked in different provinces, and although we had a very good time being tourists, it is a different story when you work there, and not being "from there".

    • Emily
      August 06, 2013 - 12:57

      That actually shocks me to be honest as I'm a MUN student myself and I've had quite the opposite experience. I can believe that there are some students and staff somewhere on that campus that would treat her like that, and I'm sure that there's some employers out there who do the same, and it's very unfortunate that she seemingly got both out of bad luck. About half of my friends that I've made since starting University are from the mainland, but none of us look at each other any different - we're just decent students who get along and don't judge each other. We don't view each other as "Islanders vs. Mainlanders." Also, this is not just a characteristic of Newfoundland, it happens everywhere in the world you'll ever go, so please don't label a province for it for goodness sake. I was at Queen's University a couple month's ago for a temporary internship and I had a very similar experience to your daughter's. I was alienated as an islander, my degree program was not considered to be a "respected" source of knowledge because I wasn't from a "top school" in Canada, and I was constantly bullied for my Newfinese accent both to my face and behind my back (when they didn't know I was in earshot). Does this mean I think all of Queen's University and, as an extension, all of Ontario is like that? NO! I have to agree with many other posts on here as well, being from the St. John's area. If you want to see the quaint, untouched part of Newfoundland with valleys and rivers and icebergs and whales, your best bet is the West Coast and the Northern Peninsula - an area that few people visit compared to the Avalon but that I've never heard a complaint about. Of course Newfoundlanders and Labradorians are proud. Of course our province, as with any place in the universe, there are good sides and bad sides. People need to stop focusing on the bad sides of every place, because every place has something beautiful about it that only positive attitudes will allow you to experience.

    • Kay
      August 06, 2013 - 12:58

      I am close with quite a few people who have had quite the opposite experience. They came for school/work, fell in love with the province/career and are quite content to stay put. Not every employer will be great, in ANY city. I wouldn't be so quick to assume that your daughter's experience is the norm. Please try to step outside her individual experience.

    • Marie Harnum
      August 06, 2013 - 13:15

      Well, I for one am a native islander that has moved away from the province a decade ago. I moved to Alberta where I have had the exact same problems and it is only now that it doesn't bother me to listen to the ridicule that seems to happen when you are not a native of the place you are inhabiting. If your daughter is stressed now then she is going to have a very hard life in the future! Everywhere has its "nice" and "not so nice" people, that is a fact of life. Please remember this and tell your daughter to focus on the positive. What she thinks of herself is what matters ONLY! I have since revisited the province and have experienced things that I never did when I lived there! I have grown to love and respect the province more and more with each trip back. I love the feeling of being a tourist in Newfoundland. You experience things differently. The culture, the history, the beauty, the friendly people, the food, it is all wonderful. Like anywhere, there are always negative or unfriendly people. People will be people! Don't judge a place on the negative, look for the positive. The longer you spend in an area, the flaws will always appear! That is a fact of life. We are human and humans are certainly not perfect!

    • david
      August 06, 2013 - 16:07

      Amen, Donna. It is a different place, a different welcome if you're a short-term tourist. People can put up a very good act, a front, for a day, a week, even a month. But not a year. Not 5 years. To be blunt, this place's reputation is today a fraud, a myth, a complete and utter disingenuous lie. How it came to be, I have no idea....maybe at one time it was true. That's the most rational explanation. But either other places got better, ort this place got worse...or both.

  • jon
    August 06, 2013 - 11:37

    The people on here who are offended by Gene's comments are more than likely the ones doing the speeding and parking in fire lanes , etc , whether or not this letter is "real" there have never been truer words spoken. Until police get out and ticket the lazy bastards who park in fire lanes it will continue to happen. Ive seen the cruisers drive up to the cars and tell them to move along , i'm sure they won't park there again ,right?

  • Real Newfie
    August 06, 2013 - 11:31

    You have based your entire article on a trip to the wrong side of the island , if you wanted peace , quiet and a nice visit , then you should have moved off the avalon penn. You got the trip you deserve , oh and exactly where are we from Mr High and Mighty ???

    • David Roche
      August 06, 2013 - 16:32

      You just proved the author's point. Congratulations.

  • George
    August 06, 2013 - 11:27

    Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of what he says. The Avalon has been caught up in the 'mighty buck' and has become more like the big city. Everyone is chasing the buck, or their credit card payments. As for people bickering about land; I saw the same thing a few years back when I was home. There were people going to court over a few feet of land that a fence had crossed.....SAD

    • Yvonne
      August 06, 2013 - 12:04

      If Gene or anyone else wants the "Newfoundland" experience that they have heard so many speak of he should have stayed away from the area with so much development. The Northern Peninsula is obviously what he were looking for, and where he would of had the trip he dreamed of. With literally thousands of things to see and do, all connected with our culture and history, Gene needs to really plan a new trip and see the island we are all proud of!!

  • Kerri
    August 06, 2013 - 11:24

    I don't agree with your experience in one, single community being the basis of an overall opinion of Newfoundland. Just because one community didn't live up to your expectations doesn't mean another wouldn't have. It's kind of like going to an all inclusive resort in a sense....some are good, others are not. You get what you paid for and if you decided you wanted to seclude yourself to rural areas only and have that be the defining conclusion of your opinion that I'm sorry, you have sadly missed out on ALL that Newfoundland has to offer. Ignorance is bliss I guess. You won't find many people who agree with you on this one unfortunatley because most people who come here, come here to get the FULL experience to form an opinion and one they've had it they come back then for their RELAXATION. When you go to Paris for the first time do you just stay in your hotel? No, you go out and see everything there is to see. No different anywhere else you travel. Perhaps a little more planning is required next time. Sorry for your loss, cuz that's truly what it is, a loss of a true Newfoundland experience.

    • Kayla
      August 06, 2013 - 11:51

      Kerri, I could not have said that better myself. I agree 110% with you, well said!!

  • Peggi Girvan
    August 06, 2013 - 11:23

    Suck it up Butter Cup , Newfound land is OURS , & we love it & the people too . I feel sorry for you :( LOL

    • Ryan
      August 06, 2013 - 11:40

      You must be blinded. If you can not see what the person is talking about you either need to leave your house and take a look around or broaden the right hemisphere of your brain, well in laymans terms, open up your mind. I live in NL born and raised but have been other places in the world and know that I have com to dislike it here very much. People here are not like they used to be, everyone is in competition with their neighbor, will to cut your throat to become one of the elite on the social chain, saddening actually.

  • Craig
    August 06, 2013 - 11:23

    Gene Poole is it?? Interesting! Since the poole from which your genes came is obviously missing those that enable a reasonable level of social skills most of us Newfoundlanders will overlook your imbecilic rant. Good luck in your future travels. If you ever consider returning to NL please write another letter and let us know when you will be here and where you will be staying. We guarantee you that your second visit with us will be just as memorable as your first.

    • Doug
      August 06, 2013 - 11:48

      Excellent job of proving his point exactly. You along with another few people spewing crap at this man. I'm a proud Newfoundlander, love my province. Love our reputation as the nicest, best looking, best drinking, best time-having, most hospitable Canadians, always willing to open our homes to any in need. The province has changed, more money more problems. You can't call the man an imbecile for talking about the personal experiences he had. Then ending off with a loosely veiled threat ? Seriously? What a proper Newfoundlander would do would be to ask "Mr. Poole" to come back again, show him a proper time. Some real hospitality. That's what your grand parents would do. Before we all decided we needed to make $100 an hour in Alberta in order to have 3 cars, 4 quads and a boat to make ourselves feel important and look down our noses at everyone we can. You know.. basically act like a bunch of mainlanders.

    • Sarah
      August 06, 2013 - 12:46

      Way to publicly threaten someone and try to sound superior while doing it - you have proved this person's points and made your self look awful. Spewing about unreasonable social skills in such a rude manner - does not make you superior - in fact - it makes you unreasonable.

    • Sarah
      August 06, 2013 - 12:57

      To help your daughter feel a little less singled out - it is not just outsiders made to feel bad in their workplace. Workers that work harder than others are singled out for making others look bad. Workers that are honest and work hard to maintain their beliefs are alienated and gossiped about. If you don't choose to be friends with every single person you are working with you will be called anti-social - even if you have chosen not to be friends with them because you have witnessed what they do to their so-called-friends when they are not around. You have a different style, you are labelled (even though as a province we don't exactly have a remarkable fashion sense - actually it is people who do follow fashion that are shunned) - you have a different accent or lack thereof, you are a snob, which makes their snobbish behavior even harder to tolerate. I have worked in many places - in this province and throughout Canada - here is the worst. So tell her to chin up - it will get better - hard work does pay off in an environment that is professional.

  • MrA
    August 06, 2013 - 11:21

    The Shire, hahahahahahahahaahahaha

  • Hillary
    August 06, 2013 - 11:20

    St. John's has changed and not necessarily for the good. While home in April I found the drivers totally aggressive, unheeding of their surroundings. Maybe insurance costs are cheaper as compared to Ontario. No doubt if Gene had been in a smaller populated area it could have been a different experience. Totally agree with the garbage issue, maybe people think the salt air will decompose the waste faster. Hopefully those who have a sense of conscience can help make change to those who've lost the sense of ownership.

  • WhyDidIComeHome?
    August 06, 2013 - 11:18

    I shouldn't be surprised about half the comments on this letter. I just moved back to NL from Montreal this spring and I simply can't believe what this place has become. "Gene" is correct on every account and for those of you that disagree with "Gene": you need to stop living in a 20 year old bubble. I still remember vividly what growing up in NL was like 20 years ago. These days the entitled attitude of people here is now unbelievable (the government and others do NOT owe you anything), the way people treat the land by littering is shocking, and the general rudeness that I see every single day is mind-numbing. Any of you that disagree with "Gene" (real person or not) needs to either open your eyes or start looking within yourself. If you want NL to be the way you see it with those rose colored glasses on then it starts with YOU!

    • me.me
      August 06, 2013 - 13:50

      I totally agree

    • brig
      August 16, 2014 - 17:13

      It's lost its quaintness.

  • david
    August 06, 2013 - 11:16

    Bile and venom. I might be the only one on here that's spent any time in NC, but that doesn't stop the hoardes of irrational, thin-skinned, ignorant Newfoundlanders from spewing their vitriolic dung. Point proven, Mr. Poole. ( BTW --- "Gene Pool" --- seriously folks...woooossshhh !!) Regardless, 'Mr. Poole' has been here though, so his opinion should count more as he's one of the precious few with any context for comparison. And honestly, it isn't even as close as you 'think'....NC is much, MUCH more than Newfoundland even pretends to be (heck, almost anywhere is). The people are nicer, the infrastructure is better, the weather is great, the eduction levels show uo in people's discussions. As for the most vocally vicious of you: "methinks you do protest too much."

    • Chris
      September 10, 2013 - 12:09

      Methinks you DOTH forget one's education too, David.

  • Cindy Rowbottom
    August 06, 2013 - 11:16

    I just visited Newfoundland for the fourth time in July, I have to say it is a beautiful province, but I have to agree with some of the points mentioned here, my friend lives across the street from the police station and they drive worse than anyone, they hop in their cars to go get Tim Hortons and they squeal coming out of the parking lot and then floor it and the speed limit there is 50 KM so they sure aren't setting any examples for the locals, some of the towns people are just rude and not very friendly at all, and twice I've had the worst waitress I've ever had in my life, one stomped her foot at me for wanting to place an order and the other had a fight with my friend and stomped away saying "Whatever", if a wait staff did that in Ontario they'd be fired on the spot, but no took ownership of their actions at all. Some of the places I visited were wonderful and very friendly but I guess in every place you will find some that are not, my only other complaint would be the signage, it's terrible, so hard to find places, I have lost more times in your province than I have been in mine and I'm 56 yrs old so that tells you a lot, please post better signs so people who do not know the areas can find them. All in all I would come back again though, I just love the scenery.

  • Kerri
    August 06, 2013 - 11:14

    I don't agree with your experience in one, single community being the basis of an overall opinion of Newfoundland. Just because one community didn't live up to your expectations doesn't mean another wouldn't have. It's kind of like going to an all inclusive resort in a sense....some are good, others are not. You get what you paid for and if you decided you wanted to seclude yourself to rural areas only and have that be the defining conclusion of your opinion that I'm sorry, you have sadly missed out on ALL that Newfoundland has to offer. Ignorance is bliss I guess. You won't find many people who agree with you on this one unfortunatley because most people who come here, come here to get the FULL experience to form an opinion and one they've had it they come back then for their RELAXATION. When you go to Paris for the first time do you just stay in your hotel? No, you go out and see everything there is to see. No different anywhere else you travel. Perhaps a little more planning is required next time. Sorry for your loss, cuz that's truly what it is, a loss of a true Newfoundland experience.

  • Sue
    August 06, 2013 - 11:06

    I totally agree with every point that Gene has made! I was born and raised in the St. John's, NL area, but moved to the CBN area a few years ago. I see these things every day...ATV's zooming past you on the roads, cars speeding and not obeying the rules of the road, behavior at the malls is anything but courteous, disrespect for animals, especially beagles, and very few people are friendly or helpful. No one holds a door for you anymore...they will let it swing in your face, you say "Hi" to anyone...they look at you like you have ten heads, have gotten the finger several times while driving...even though they were the ones that ran thru the stop sign, even had shoppers grab the last special item from my hand at the supermarket! Quite honestly, I thought that only the people in CBN behaved this way, but I have come to realize that on the few days that I have spent in the St.John's area, these things occur there as well. St. John's may not get the ATV's on the road, but the people are just as self centered and self absorbed with no respect for others What have we become? We used to be a friendly and courteous people in NL! I'm not saying that everyone is this way, but be honest with ourselves! Look around...when was the last time someone helped you with your packages, opened a door for you, or even stood up to let someone with a handful sit down on public transit? I totally blame society for this change in our behavior! The population rates are going up in NL, especially in and around the surrounding areas of St. John's. This in turn has increased our crime rate...people are afraid to help other people because we no longer trust the other person. How long would someone be stranded on the highway waiting for someone stop to help? Quite a while, I would think! We are also over crowded! It takes so long to run an errand or to get from one place to another because of the increase in population...everyone is in a rush and getting irritated because of the slower pace. Why are we always in a rush? Money! We work all day long to pay the bills and probably in a rush to see the doctor before he closes, or get to the store before it closes, or to pick up the kids from daycare because both parents are working. Society has become money driven...we want that big house, that brand new car, new cellphone that is on the market, the new internet ready TV, vacations, etc. We want to look better off than our neighbour! Come on people! Let's get back to our old ways! I'm not saying that we have to stop and pick up a stranger...as that could have dire consequences, but be friendly and courteous! Say "Hi" as you pass someone on a stroll, hold the door for the next person, or even let that person in the checkout, with only a couple of items, go ahead of your big cart full. A simple smile will do wonders, as it may brighten someone's day! As I always say....you never know if the next person may be going through something really tough in their life and a smile could make a world of difference to them! We are all here for the same reason and we all have some sort of concern or problem...there is no need to be rude to our fellow men. Slow down, enjoy life and the beautiful landscape that our province has to offer, and treat others as you wish to be treated yourself! Tomorrow is another day!

  • Michelle
    August 06, 2013 - 11:05

    First off, Gene Poole is not a fake person. Yes, the name certainly is quite funny, no doubt. But He is a real person. In my opinion, some of what he says - is true. Such as the grocery store line... How many times has that happened to me. People in the back of line rushing to the newly open check-out while I had been waiting longer. It definitely boils my blood. I think some of us, including me, haven't REALLY at least considered what he says about our precious Newfoundland. We are patrioits and we love our province but if we want tourists to keep visiting then maybe we should - clean up our communities and stop driving like maniacs. At the sametime, I don't think anyone can come and do and stay where he did and somehow say that he will never recommend our province to his friends. It's a shame that there are people in this world with such closed minded thoughts as him. Until someone takes the time to get out and see our beautiful province as a whole instead of judging us on one town, then your arguments are invaild. I don't think Mr. Gene Poole would appreaciate it if one of us were to visit a small town in whichever state he is from and judge the entire state based soley on one town. I don't think so. and PETA?? pfff. Don't even get me started on that topic. That is all.

  • Nickersinaknot
    August 06, 2013 - 11:04

    Way to rile up a bunch of newfies, Gene! I, for one, could give a rodents bottom about your opinion of our lovely province, but perhaps you set the bar too high before you even came, by imagining a vacation in paradise with simple-minded country folk? This isn't the shire, Gene. You're going to have to spend a bit more cash for a holiday THAT far removed from modern society.

    • Geoff C
      August 06, 2013 - 11:11

      after living in Gambo, Gander, for three months this year nickers, i wouldn't exactly call them modern society. I live on Irelands east coast btw ;-)

    • Karen Kelly
      August 06, 2013 - 11:28

      Its pretty sad that just because Gene had a bad experience she's labelling the whole Island. Nfld is a great place and the people are as well. But its not a fantasy land, no matter where you go you will find garbage, and people fighting, but you will also find beauty and strength of the land and the people, it all depends on what your really looking for. Wake up Gene don't ruin the reputation of a wonderful place because of your one bad experience!

  • April
    August 06, 2013 - 11:01

    Oh scared Newfoundland, where people pray together on Sunday only to hang each other on Monday, where people sit on their front steps and bitch about the garbage only to leave it there, where dogs and cats go hungry while the welfare bums buy new cars. I am so proud to be born and raised here but I am not blind. And maybe this stuff happens evrywhere but not everywhere gets the opportunity to fix it. Stop defending your wonderful province and open your eyes and change it. Thanks Gene Pooke for stating the obvious, lets hope some people step up to the challenge to improve their ignorant ways!

    • Jay
      August 06, 2013 - 17:50

      WELL SAID APRIL. Gene Poole only talked about what he saw and experienced. Instead of complaining and moaning about his comments, do something about it. Smarten up people and use the negative for a positive outcome. I love NL and was born there, but, it's time for a change for the better. Let's get it back to when our grandparents were young.

  • S dominaux
    August 06, 2013 - 11:00

    I agree with some of the statements and disagree with some statements but you certainty are not an Animal lover if you are a member of PETA!!!

    • Yonkers
      August 06, 2013 - 13:39

      I bet you wouldn't say that to Tommy Lee....to his face!!

    • Tee
      August 06, 2013 - 13:59

      I, too, am a person from Newfoundland, and I also agree with Gene. I think this province is a mess. It's dirty with litter everywhere. The roads are a mess with no one driving with courtesy and safety in mind. Animal cruelty cases are endless and that is tragic and sad. Friendliness is now non-existent. And, there are more and more people on social assistance. And, don't misunderstand me, I think SA is a great social program FOR THOSE YOU ARE ON IT FOR LEGITIMATE REASONS. However, look around, most of the SA recipients are young, overweight, lazy people who have 3 and 4 children for several men. Those poor kids!! I was born in Newfoundland and lived here until I was 28, then I moved away for 12 years. While away, I always wanted to find a job back home, and I finally did - so I accepted it with glee. However, I now regret that decision every single day. I am sad and sickened by what this province has become. It is wonderful to be back near family, but his province is an awful place to live now. To Gene, I'm sorry you had such a terrible experience. And, I'm sorry that many of these comments have only proven your point by showing that when many Newfoundlanders are met with criticism, rather than have a healthy discussion and apologize, they attack like a bunch of bullies. You clearly were just being honest in describing your experience. And, instead of taking a long look at themselves, many of the people of Newfoundland attack. I understand because I have also been a victim of the bullies in this province since moving back too - all because I have different ideas/opinions than those around me here. So, yes, I am hoping to get out of here again....SOON!!!!

    • Tee
      August 06, 2013 - 14:43

      Would you say that to Tommy Lee???? To his face???? Didn't think so.

  • Steve
    August 06, 2013 - 10:58

    I guess I have to keep this somewhat civil, well I already commented here but it wasnt posted, I guess I painted too clear of a picture of the way things are here and the reporters don't want that cause they can't paint that picture. Hey it's my opinion I am entitled to it.

    • Ray
      August 06, 2013 - 11:32

      Well don't come back. I have been to NC, believe me you have no room to talk!

  • Newfie moved back home
    August 06, 2013 - 10:58

    The complaints in this letter are pretty much the typical things that most locals (in St. John's) complain about daily. Actually, I am surprised that the quality of the roadways had not been mentioned seeming we commonly complain about them as well. I chose to move my young family back to NL a few years ago. It isn't the friendly NL that I grew up in, but t is home and there is still lots of good to be found here! I've visited Gene Poole's state of North Carolina before and it is beautiful. Its unfortunate that Gene had a negative experience while visiting our province and it worries me that there are potentially others with the same legit complaints who may never return to our province. Perhaps we should all take this as a wake up call and in our every day life remember the courtesy and hospitality that we were raised with.

  • Wendy Allen
    August 06, 2013 - 10:56

    No one likes a critic. Specially a critic from away. Newfoundland is like most of Atlantic Canada, largely rural, some centers, never enough services and plenty of poverty and social problems to go around. It is a province that has known every hard time that can be imagined and yet Newfoundland remains. This is also the province that has welcomed strangers into their homes, time and time again in times of crisis. A province that donates the most per capita, has the lowest birthrate in Canada and has to beg and plead it's government to help it's own people. If she wanted a picturesque vacation, she should've rented an island. Newfoundlanders know what's wrong with us, we make fun of ourselves all the time. But it's that collective mentality of "we've been through all this before" that keeps us coming back. Besides, didn't she hear the budget cuts? How can a province with a government who doesn't value education be expected to learn anything?

  • Bayman
    August 06, 2013 - 10:52

    While you do have a point, these are minor nuisances that are common the world over. I know this, because I grew up not far from CBN, and have travelled around the world. ESPECIALLY in the US. So you'll never come back? Fine. Your loss. If you confined yourself to one dirty little town, which prevented you from seeing the bigger picture that is the rest of the province, that's no-one else's fault but your own.

  • Not Surprised
    August 06, 2013 - 10:51

    Yeah, the rose-coloured view many hold of this province is quite silly. Having traveled widely and lived in both the states and BC I can tell you that this province is filled with ignorant rednecks, litter, and poor form. It is only accentuated by all the local rednecks arguing "should have gone to bonavista" or "this doesn't happen on the west coast". Gimme a break. We are effectively the Alabama of Canada. Or whatever backwater redneck state has that dubious distinction now.

    • wow
      August 06, 2013 - 11:10

      REDNECKS? That is a little harsh don't you think?

    • Kev
      August 06, 2013 - 11:32

      Redneck just about captures it.

    • Rod
      August 06, 2013 - 14:19

      I agree with you NOT SURPRISED. I moved back to the island (native Newfie) after living away for several years and I too agree....Newfoundland has definitely become the 'white trash capital of canada'. Sorry fellow Newfies - the truth hurts!!

  • Sarah
    August 06, 2013 - 10:49

    I can see why this person is disappointed - I am a local and I am disappointed with how we treat one another and our province. We have bullying in our schools that is ENCOURAGED by teachers. We have cliquish behavior in all age groups - in work places and extra curricular activities. We are openly rude to people in the service industry. There is a plague of backstabbing and a huge lack of loyalty to one another (this shines through in our politics if you are looking for a direct example). We drive recklessly and dangerously on our small streets and highways - which cause countless unnecessary injuries and deaths. And - even though most of us are aware of all of these things we ignore them or participate in them. The amount of litter is notable - having traveled around the world there is only one other place that has worse litter than us - and it was a place of poverty. Our Province is beautiful - and has beautiful people in it - just unfortunately - those beauties are outshone by a behavior that is becoming more and more prominent in our society.

  • MegO
    August 06, 2013 - 10:48

    I have to agree with Gene. This is not the same place that I grew up in. While the friendliest, nicest people in the world are still here, their presence and actions are overshadowed by too many others. There is so much crime and we give our understaffed law enforcement hell for doing their job. I'm sure some tourists may get a great experience but I truly worry for most!

  • sh
    August 06, 2013 - 10:47

    So nice of him to tar us all with the same brush. If he wanted the touristy stuff he shouldn't have stayed so close to town. Animal cruelty? Because there were a few incidents that made the news in recent years. It happens everywhere. Just because the tourism ads paint pretty pictures doesn't mean this isn't a real place with real people and real problems, just like everywhere else in the world. I think Mr.Poole should have done his research and picked somewhere better to stay other than CBN. He obviously has a chip on his shoulder and was too bitter to look up from his notebook to notice what Newfoundland has to offer. Personally I'm sitting here on my deck in the sun, surrounded by nature and wonderful neighbours and I wouldn't want it any other way. I can think of a million other places I wouldn't want to be. I've read some of the comments as well and I find them to be disgusting. This self-entitlement foolishness? Bad attitudes? Truly letting a few bad apples spoil the bunch. I'm proud to be a Newfoundlander, we're not perfect, we're just people

  • kassje sharpe
    August 06, 2013 - 10:47

    Well now, and this person lives in usa? Where you pay to see the damn doctor.. Everyones going to have their own opinion about Newfoundland... hey if you want to give us a bad name,then by all means do so...less people we get visiting here bickering,the better!! I love it here...you judged our provience by the few people that are cruel here....and where you come from its perfect? My love,open your eyes...nowhere is perfect! & thats a fact (Proud to be a newfie)

  • gina
    August 06, 2013 - 10:46

    To: So True! I am from here, moved away for 12 years and came back in 2007. I 100% agree with you. The employers here treat everyone like shit! My last job, the trainer was calling me stupid, a liar, doing half ass work, blaming me for her mistakes, ect. I told the owner about it and he said maybe it was better if I quit! I was only there for a few weeks. I know how you feel!!

  • Paul
    August 06, 2013 - 10:39

    You are 100% correct. I have also lived abroad for many years and was shocked when I returned to St. John's in January. The people are rude, impatient, and angry. Even when I say hi, some people just glare at me like I am a freak. I'm leaving again in the Fall to move back to BC; who are, in my opinion, much friendlier than my fellow St. John's residents.

  • Jon
    August 06, 2013 - 10:36

    Growing up just outside of St. John's, and working in small towns all over the island, it's clear that their are indeed a lot of newfies who are backwards, to say the least. Small towns in Newfoundland are either excellent, or terrible, there seems to be little middle ground. The issue I think is that small town Newfoundland now is dying, the youth simply leave these towns when they get out of school and populations are consistently aging. A lot of backward and bigoted idea's are held by our older generation, and it really requires you to gingerly sidestep a lot of social situations that would normally be fine. Many of the people I've lived around have been amazing people, but you're only a few doors away from a guy with car and atv parts and wrecks all over his lawn who's getting hammered all day on a Tuesday on welfare money, who doesn't mind having a heated fight with his wife in the front yard. I've loved a lot of towns I've spent time in around the province, but even where I'm living now makes me feel uneasy about heading to the local bar after work on a Friday. Even in the best small towns in the province, you're going to hear ATV's occasionally, and regardless of the laws, a lot of people are going to do as they see fit, no bones about it. If they had spent the week in Millertown, in central NL, for example, I'm sure this would be a totally different story, after working in that area for almost 2 years I absolutely loved the people and the town, and Red Indian Lake has an excellent beach to kick back on... just saying!

  • saelcove
    August 06, 2013 - 10:36

    The truth hurts

  • NDA
    August 06, 2013 - 10:36

    First of all, how childish are some of you to make fun of a person's name? I grew up in NL and moved away for a few years, then moved back. Not only is Gene right but let me add a few things. Newfoundlanders are friendly... if you're like them. If you're living there (not visiting) and they find out that you have different views than that, they'll right you off as a snobby mainlander - even though I grew up here! We are far behind the rest of the country is out liberal thinking. The amount of sexist, racist, and homophobic comments/jokes I've heard here are unreal. As for the animal cruelty thing, I don't think they meant the seal hunt, although it ironic that's the first thing people thought of. She (or he) said the area, not the province. And some small towns are horrible for keeping dogs chained up outside and not getting cats spayed/neutered and then letting the overpopulate. Some people shot animals (coyote, caribou, fox, etc.) for fun and let them rot out in the woods. Then have long discussion and congratulate each other about it!! There are different kinds of animal cruelty, and some of the things done to our wildlife are disgusting. Hopefully this letter will help NL to do something about the problems in the provinces, but then again, probably not since people think that it's perfect, that anyone who says anything bad about it is a moron, oh and let's not forget the "God's Country" c***.

  • Donny Mullins
    August 06, 2013 - 10:35

    I agree with you. I am a newfoundlander and i am sad to say that u have visited the worst part of newfoundland, the east coast. Yes the drivers there drive like maniacs, i consider those people a discrace to newfoundland,unlike the people on the west coast of the island which are very kind and curtious. And another thing has a visitor to the east coast of newfoundland i bet you encountered lots of fog and rain aswell.reconsider ur opinion of newfoundlandand visit again but this time come to corner brook and then travel towardsst.anthony. where the hospitality and kind and frendly people are. Like ur fellow newfy friends probably explained that to you. Im so sorry for your bad experience to the rock.but when i read your story i knew exactly why, st.johns and sourrondings (east coast) are a discrace to newfys. Sorry fellow newfounders but i experienced the same issues when i ever went down there.

  • So True
    August 06, 2013 - 10:27

    Wow.. This hit close to home and is 100% true ... Even in St. John's, so don't feel alone, buddy! I moved here in 2010 and have finally decided to leave .. This island is no place for 'Non Newfoundlanders' ... The people here are a disgrace.. Even the employers here need their wrists slapped for treating us like shit. Good riddance, province. Maybe get your damn premier to stop focusing on oil and more towards the province's lifestyle.

  • Kevin C
    August 06, 2013 - 10:26

    What did you expect lol you went to C.B.S

  • Paul
    August 06, 2013 - 10:26

    I see the usual comments claiming Gene is wrong and NL is God's country. Give me a break. I was born and raised in St. John's, but I have spent many years living abroad. I have lived in England, Korea, Montreal, and Vancouver. All these places had their problems and things I did not like. However, Gene was completely correct with respect to the St. John's area (I cannot speak for the rest of the island). People here have become extremely rude, angry, and impatient. I have seen road rage and store rage. The parking in fire lanes just shows the deep lack of respect for others and sense of entitlement that the people have. As for people who claim the US is worse, you are wrong. I have travelled all over the US and I have always been welcomed with much more kindness than I get from my fellow Newfoundlanders.

  • Miss V
    August 06, 2013 - 10:24

    A word of advice for anyone who agrees with this post...stay the hell where you are if you don't like Newfoundland...did any Newfoundlanders ever write in your American newspapers about how you are all a bunch of gun-totin', trigger happy red necks who think the world's resources are solely yours because you can't get your head out of your asses to see past the hoods of your Hybrid cars. Pfffft!!!

    • ashley
      August 06, 2013 - 10:49

      Miss V, I agree with you completely. An American complaining about rudeness is quite hypocritical.

  • Me
    August 06, 2013 - 10:23

    why anyone would go to the east coast to 'relax' is beyond me anyways lol this is no different then if I went to Amsterdam and complained about all the people stood around smoking pot all the time... don't go somewhere if your not gonna embrace the culture... and two, you cant judge a whole province on one area... all the amazing things to see in this province, and all the quiet little coves he could have relaxed in, this guy didn't even visit any other place, I guarantee he would have had a different opinion...

  • Newfie Mike
    August 06, 2013 - 10:19

    One narrow minded American opinion! You want to read a book in peace & quiet go sit on a beach or shoreline at cape spear or something. Just another whiny narrow minded opinion from someone with nothing better to do than complain! Go see the sights signal hill petty harbour George street fest iceberg quest tours nothin but a time to be had!! All the problems mentioned exist everywhere in the works these days! Get over it & enjoy life! ;-)

  • Gina
    August 06, 2013 - 10:18

    I am from St. John's, born and raised! Gene hit the nail on the head with how Newfoundland is. I lived in Nova Scotia, British Columbia and Alberta. I have to say, we are the rudest province in Canada. Backwards, nosey, clicky, and boisterous. I have worked two jobs where I was bullied by the trainers and treated with the upmost disrespect. Ignorance is abound here. In the other provinces, in which I lived, people may not say hello as you are walking down the street, but they were courteous, patient, generous people who didn't interfere in anybody else's business. I was shocked when I moved back here in 2007 and it still shocks me on a daily basis how backwards it is here. If it wasn't for my boyfriend being here for his business, I would leave this place in a heartbeat. This is not the beautiful province I grew up in; it has turned into a very negative, crime riddled, ugly, place to be. What a shame!

  • T.T
    August 06, 2013 - 10:16

    Well this is just stupid! Animal cruelty, speeding, parking issues etc. so in North Carolina none of this happens on a daily basis? Why did you come here in the first place? Because of the good reputation and beauty of our province right! You couldn't try a different area of the province if you weren't satisfied with the CBN area. no because you were pissed off and wanted to stay and pick out all of the bad so you could rant about it. That to me shows what kind of person you are. Why don't you go shoot some gators and make some shoes or something out of them..... there that's animal cruelty for ya. Its people like you who come to the province acting like you own the place that's give it its very few complaints.

  • mercedes
    August 06, 2013 - 10:14

    Sorry your experience wasn't the picture perfect vision you were expecting. We are real people not a romanticized brochure.

  • Geoff E
    August 06, 2013 - 10:14

    I think whoever agrees with this is not seeing the big picture... NL is known as god's country because of its low crime rate and ease of conversation with anyone you meet... People speeding and littering are known around the world ... I think Gene is wrong in every way shape or form... He needs to wake up and stop judging a book by its cover

    • Geoff C
      August 06, 2013 - 10:43

      actually if you look at the stats Geoff, Newfoundland has bucked the national trend for crime and its going through the roof. read here: http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/12/15/newfoundland-the-rocks-other-boom/ or here http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2011/07/22/nl-crime-statistics-up-722.html so stop talking through your arse.

  • Donna
    August 06, 2013 - 10:14

    It saddens me that this person had to see the truth! Yesterday I drove from Cape Spear through Petty Harbour and back home again. Three times I was passed by speeding cars plus a dump truck. I was going the speed limit. I noticed that there was garbage along the roads, everything from Tim Hortons cups thrown into the brushes to household items. Please don't talk to me about animal cruelty, as a developed country we rank up there with the worst. Still gassing pregnant dogs,cats, puppies and kittens. Tying Beagles on or making them live in wire cages the whole year with little more than a paper shack and during our winter frozen water. Turn them loose after hunting season if they're not good hunters. Some don't know about neutering/spaying. Kitten season is here and shelters have to decide who lives or dies. Some animals are dropped off to become feral and live in harsh environments. The newspaper recently has shown quite a few horror stories about animal cruelty and so they should, but the RCMP and RNC doesn't seem to want to get involved. The laws are amended but the judges are in no hurry to enforce them. There're are amazing animal lovers out there who will spend weekends in the rain looking for missing stranger's dogs/cats. Who donate to the Humane Society and other shelters trying to save a life. We still need the media to try and get people to foster or adopt rather than buying from puppy mills which are in our own backyards. Sorry if this went on to long but we need the criticism, how else are we going to change. Talking with friends just back from working overseas. They tell me they can't believe how our service industry is not trained properly. From taxi drivers that grunted " where your headed" instead of nicely saying good morning, afternoon or night where would you like to go. From restaurants that still need work in areas of courtesy and manners.

  • wavy
    August 06, 2013 - 10:12

    Honestly? I think he was kind not to mention the deplorable state of our roads and highways themselves. Add wildlife poaching, illegal dumping, out of control crime and drug problems and I'd say the letter is bang on. The Google Maps car got broken into last month in St. John's for crying out loud! Nice impression to send out into the world. I haven't even mentioned our archaic, irresponsible and resistant attitude towards things like recycling and careless use of household water. For all the province has to offer to visitors, Newfoundlanders are their own worst enemy. Obviously, it's not everyone or even the majority but all it takes is a few skeets and look at the impression it leaves on others. If you disagree with me, take off your rose-coloured glasses, put yourself in the mindset of a tourist and walk around town. You can agree with it or not, but someone's lasting impression and opinion is valid if that's how they genuinely feel. Anyone who disagrees is in denial. But I'm sure at least one smart-ass will be quick to suggest if I don't like it, I can just leave.

    • Vicki
      August 06, 2013 - 10:59

      I agree with you 100%. It is time for Newfoundlanders to give their heads a shake. Our reputation is rapidly going down the tubes.

  • Michelle
    August 06, 2013 - 10:11

    Your first problem is not experiencing the west coast! The west coast is the best of all Newfoundland! Sorry you had a bad experience but if you had stayed here on the west coast of Nl you would have not had such a disappointing time.

  • Niks
    August 06, 2013 - 10:10

    I've been all over the world. What "gene poole" (Honestly people. Gene Pool. ???. Anyways, what he or she writes can be found EVERYWHERE. Everywhere. Are we perfect? No. We certainly aren't. Our province has changed a lot over the years, but it has preserved a lot too. Unlike this "tourist" when I go to other countries I don't go for the shopping centres. I have seen the rude and dirty in multiple towns of Alberta, BC, Ontario, Quebec, NY, DC, Ireland, Scotland, Italy, Greece and France to name a few. Did I focus on those things? The impersonal big cities? The not so well appointed small towns? No. I went to see the place, and see I did. They each have thier beauty. As does NL. I chose to take in the beauty, and ignore the inevitable beast that comes with being ANYWHERE in the world.

  • JUDY NEWMAN
    August 06, 2013 - 10:07

    You should have visited FOGO ISLAND,..

  • Stephanie
    August 06, 2013 - 10:03

    Why don't all the Newfies stop complainong and DO something about it? If there is trash pick it up, if someone is mistreating an animal report it. You're all so quick to poiny out the negatives, but I have failed to hear you discuss how you have been active in helping to address the issues, other than blow hot air.

  • Kent Reid
    August 06, 2013 - 10:02

    Wrong side of the overpass by'! Your observations are on the mark though.

    • ABC
      August 06, 2013 - 11:02

      haha well said!

  • Peter Yetman
    August 06, 2013 - 10:00

    He is 100% right....and it wouldnt suprise me one bit if he was talking of Hr.Grace....where i have moved back too after 16 years away and see everything he has talked about on a daily basis.....sorry about your experiences and cant blame u for not wanting to come back....i have considered numerous times about moving away again.....just rediculous how people act around here......Good job people who r doin these things....you deserve a medal for ignorance and stupidity!!!!

  • Carol
    August 06, 2013 - 09:57

    I am a widow of an American and have been to over half the US States. Lived in California, Mississippi, Texas, Florida & Virginia.Also lived in Kenya & Spain, so have traveled quite a lot. There are " not so nice" areas wherever you go to. You travel to see the country/ culture of these places......and not to look for the bad things!! Gene, while you have wasted your breath & time complaining, you missed the "good" things about NL. Appreciate the fact you are rich & well enough to travel, Be thankful and stop complaining............

  • Cara
    August 06, 2013 - 09:57

    Honestly, if you don't like it...don't come back. There are negatives and positives with every place you visit. We take the good with the bad and the NLders that don't like it are living in Ontario or Alberta. They certainly don't have what we have here. I agree these things mentioned should change and it's nice that someone has called awareness to them but it doesn't mean that what we have in NL is not worth visiting. Personally I could care less if another tourist stepped foot off the ferry but I do agree that some of our ingrained behaviours may need to be examined. On the bright side...whales, puffins, icebergs, folklore, music, history and salt of the earth people. etc.. etc.. etc...

  • PaulNorthRiver
    August 06, 2013 - 09:56

    This is clearly a fake letter...likely written by someone who lives here. Not to say that some of the points aren't valid, but "gene pool"....really? LOL

  • Glenn Delaney
    August 06, 2013 - 09:56

    First of all, I'm a NFLDer born and bred and i'll be one till I die, while I disagree with most of what you said, there are some points that did strike a positive chord. Yes, atv's are rampant on side streets of small communities right across this province not just CBN. You say you wanted to relax and drink iced tea. Why didn't you take a book and blanket or folding chair and relax on Salmon Cove Sands, Northern Bay Sands i'm sure you would have even been offered lunch from bbqers in the area. We are and always will be courteous to any outsider but it will only be a reflection on how the person was brought up. This day and age you must converse with the people of your age group. If you put yourself in the company of individuals half your age be prepared for insults. You definitely needed to experience more of what this province has to offer. Gros Morne, Terra Nova, Lanse aux Meadows, Mueseums, Signal Hill, Cape Spear. I can go on and on. Sorry Gene but if you ever decide to come back look me up, I will show you what a nfld downhome experience is all about.

  • Erin
    August 06, 2013 - 09:54

    Hymmmmmm...... I tend to think that we have the best piece of the universe. Lower than average crime rate, the safest highway in Canada, untamed habitat, clean water ways and a better than safe environment to raise your kids.,Not to mention the slow pace that we as Newfoundlanders appreciate when we leave to visit or move from this beautiful place we call home. This is just to name a few of things we offer here in this province, and it is unfortunate that Mr. Poole got the hole of the "Cod End" , but we are not perfect! Noone asks for perfection when step off the ferry in Port aux Basque / Aregntia , or off the plane in Sin John's! I feel lucky that I can stand in a line up at the grocery and not worry about getting shot or mugged, my baby can play in the back yard without being kidnapped, and I can walk down the street at night. I wonder if this man has ever been to Egypt? where the lack of basic sanitation is third world at best, and millions flock there to visit the pyramids! So I think that we are lucky that not more people find out about us and what we have to offer! I would hate for this to turn into the urban centres like the GTA! That is my thoughts on the matter, so iam going to enjoy my cup of tea on my patio and watch my babies grow! Time is too short to worry about the one sided mind of one man! Thanks!

  • amazed
    August 06, 2013 - 09:54

    While I don't disagree with some thjngs expressed in this letter, everything mentioned was based on observation until he mention "apparent" animal cruelty, rtc, and being a member of PETA, organization known for sneaky tactics to get publicity. I suspect "Gene Poole" is just PETA, up to their usual stuff. It wouldn't be hard to go over local news archives to find info on most of this persons complaints. PETA is yanking your chain people.

  • Lori
    August 06, 2013 - 09:53

    In response to this I would say; 1. There will always be argument, no matter where you go. 2. ATV's. Really? I'm sure there are no ATV's in North Carolina. If you decide to go to rural NL, there's a good chance someone will be using an ATV as a mode of transportation. Especially during recreational fishery season! 3. Motor Vehicle accidents happen every where, EVEN in North Carolina. We have laws, as do you. Not everyone will adhere to said laws. 4. Parking. I'm very certain, people all over the world park inappropriately. 5. 95% of the time, people don't jump lines. In fact, NLers are usually courteous to a fault, offering their place in line. 6. Every year, city and towns in this province have HUGE clean ups. WHile you may think we've just been dirty all winter, sometimes (and this may shock you) garbage bags are ripped apart by wild animals, end up frozen to the ground and torn open on garbage collection day, I've even seen trash bags fall off moving trucks unknown to the driver (the last time I saw this, a man walking along the street in St John's hopped out and pulled the bag off the street to avoid the trash being strewn everywhere. But alas, we are dirtbags.) 7.Animal cruelty happens everywhere. But I know of so many animal welfare groups in NL, it would make even your head spin. We as NLers are generous and loving, be it toward animal or human. I've seen people raise thousands of dollars to pay for extensive vet car for injured animals. I've seen people give thousands of dollars when a neighbour is battling cancer or some other disease and needs expensive treatment or out of province treatment. I do not care for your opinion, Gene Poole. You have no idea how real NLers are in spirit and compassion.

  • proud newfie
    August 06, 2013 - 09:51

    pfffftt! you obviously weren't here long enough.. Newfoundland is amazing and i couldn't imagine ever living anywhere else... especially the states...YUCK... NEWFIE NOW AND FOREVER!

  • Al Faghetti
    August 06, 2013 - 09:47

    I totally agree with Gene here, and like he/she said, it doesn't apply to all of us. I work a retail job and see all the time how people at the back of the line will jump ahead of the person who should be next to be served, which is why I'll always say I can serve the next person in line. Driving has gotten ridiculous here, and there's little respect everywhere you go. I feel bad for those who are miserable as it must make for a long day of feeling crappy, but if you are miserable keep it to yourself and don't ruin it for those of us who are friendly and willing to help someone in need. It doesn't take much to say a simple thank you, but I guess so many people are wrapped up in cell phones these days they can't communicate like humans. Soon people will just grunt like cavemen again. And don't get me wrong, there is ignorance everywhere in this world. It would just be nice to see more kindness.

  • Pam
    August 06, 2013 - 09:46

    I know first impressions mean a lot, and sometimes that's all it takes. Unfortunately, I think Gene probably had unreal expectations and perhaps he/she should have done more planning in a more rural area of NL as opposed to CBN. A city is a city is a city.... traffic should be expected, line up should be expected, and daily city attitudes should be expected. I still think we're a friendly province, and I would still recommend new visitors to travel here. Just have realistic expectations, don't base your expectations on a TV or internet as that's luring you in.

  • Carol
    August 06, 2013 - 09:46

    As a widow of an American, I have been to over half the US States. Lived in California, Mississippi, Texas, Florida & Virginia. Also Kenya & Spain. So have done a lot of traveling and sightseeing. There are " not so nice" areas wherever you go! You travel to see other countries/cultures, not to look for the worse things about them. As you waste your breath complaining, someone out there is taking their last one! Be thankful you are rich enough to take a vacation.....appreciate what you have.............................

  • Bill
    August 06, 2013 - 09:45

    still the best place in the world to live.If it is as bad as this guy says then I can only imagine what other places are like.Maybe he is upset because everybody did not bow down to him.It is your lossGene.........god guard thee newfoundland.

  • JR
    August 06, 2013 - 09:44

    Perception is reality...so sad for you, your reality is so focused on the negative around you. I guess you thought you escaped all the negative you experience in your home town coming here, Only to find it followed you!

  • main lander
    August 06, 2013 - 09:43

    well i am a main lander my roots are from belle island my family moved away because of no work here we moved here in 1989 to raise a family and i have no regrets where ever you live there is always high traffic and speeding you get them every where for animal cruelty that is also every where read the papers and follow the news we are not the only province that have people park in front of the stores this happens every where like seriously should of done your home work for sight seeing st johns bacalu red head cove salmon cove all little communites and not everyone is friendly every where for someone to down grade a small community over stuff that happens everyday must live in a bubble like seriously look whats around you its every where

  • CB
    August 06, 2013 - 09:43

    Sad that the Telegram published this,,,its all about getting readers and keep the ratings up..

    • Sandy
      August 06, 2013 - 19:37

      Hit the nail on the head!!

  • Bob
    August 06, 2013 - 09:40

    Everything he has listed I have witnessed on an almost daily basis here. I do not live on the avalon peninsula either and I have witnessed the majority of these things in almost every other town in this area. There are plenty of places that are beautiful here and plenty of people who are kind but just like any other place in the world this place has it's share of ugly as well. To claim that it is just specific to one part of Newfoundland is to be ignorant. These thing's will exist no matter where you go because that is the nature of human beings. What really is shocking is not this article but some of the comments about this person that are as ignorant and insulting as the thing's that he has listed.

  • COME ON PEOPLE
    August 06, 2013 - 09:37

    Is nobody here familiar with the concept of trolling? I'll bet a box of donuts that this author (Gene Poole... get it??) is not a traveler at all. He or she is someone who lives here, publicly complaining about things that frankly are wrong and do need to be addressed. By framing it as a letter from a tourist, he/she knows it will get more attention because nobody cares when a local complains about these things (because locals do all the time but it makes little difference). The complaints here are valid complaints, these are real problems confirmed by several of the responders here. He/she is trying to start the conversation again, and is succeeding. It doesn't really matter who they are, it matters that more of us need to BE the kind of people we want to have around us. The change that needs to happen must begin with all of us as individuals. This letter to the editor was someone's somewhat clever (but somewhat transparent) plea for that to begin.

  • Are you from Suburbia?
    August 06, 2013 - 09:37

    Since when is CBS a "quaint town?". I think she thought she was going to Heart's Content. Maybe she should have researched a little before coming.

    • W McLean
      August 06, 2013 - 22:58

      Since when is CBS the abbreviation for Conception Bay North?

  • t bone
    August 06, 2013 - 09:37

    .. nice to hear someones bad experience to learn from .however. if its really that bad. this person must live in a place thats equal to a empty church... ligit complaints. but some major nit picking... a little to fake..

  • NM
    August 06, 2013 - 09:31

    This person has watched one-too-many Newfoundland commercials. That's all I have to say. Though the government spends a lot of money on them, I believe that they do leave people with a false sense of island life.

  • Millard
    August 06, 2013 - 09:31

    Dispite the comments made by g poole i would choose NL over any spot in the states for a holiday

  • Billy W
    August 06, 2013 - 09:31

    Sadly... He's right on all things he said..

  • nikita
    August 06, 2013 - 09:29

    Should have tried a different town..

    • Animal Cruelty?
      August 06, 2013 - 10:07

      Are you kidding me? Animal cruelty? Ok Gene, what about this http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/26/18513791-scores-of-dead-animals-found-at-south-carolina-rental-property?lite And a petition to strengthen the laws? http://forcechange.com/67199/strengthen-animal-abuse-laws-in-south-carolina/ I don't see SC in the top 5 states with the strictest policies: "The top five states with the strongest animal cruelty laws are California, Massachusetts, Illinois, Oregon and New Jersey, respectively." -http://www.live5news.com/story/21193194/south-carolina-animal-cruelty-laws-filled-with-exceptions-and-loopholes

    • wendy
      August 06, 2013 - 11:49

      News for North Carolina, I rather live in Newfoundland!!!! http://www.charlotteobserver.com/local/

  • Ex-Newf
    August 06, 2013 - 09:29

    I relocated to Newfoundland in 1986 and lived there until Dec 2008. I married and raised my family in a smallish community not far outside St. John's. I experienced all of what this visitor experienced and more. I found the people rude, obnoxious, mouthy, nosey, "cliquish", selfish and just plain odd. I experienced family members who would sit together in church on Sundays...but stab each other in the back on Monday. I found the people uneducated and unaware of the fact that the world is bigger than Newfoundland. I found such resentment ingrained in these people towards "Canada" it shocked me. They are an entire Province of people with a huge chip on their shoulder. It shows..and it isn't pretty. I experienced "shunning" and my children were outcst because their mother wasn't a "local". I experienced jealousy and family interference to the extent that it damaged my marriage, and my children and I. I experienced the fights over land and money, I experienced a loyalty to families of origin that was almost incestuous and impenetrable. The happiest day of my life was the day I left....And I'll NEVER go back. ....even though I was born there!..as we're my parents, my Grandparents, and my Great Grandparents.

    • I Understand
      August 06, 2013 - 10:18

      I'm sorry you had such a bad experience in Newfoundland. As beautiful as this place is, it's infested by people, just like the rest of the world. And similar to the rest of the world, there are miserable people here who are just as self-centred and self-righteous. Hence the reason why you meet people who don't care about pedestrian safety, community appearance, and who can't see the ocean for the harbour. I used to say I wasa proud Newfoundlander, and then I met "proud Newfoundlanders". Since that day, I've done away with my newfie nationalism and have just tried to be a good person. I hope you only meet good people from now on, whether from Newfoundland or not. We're no different than any other location in the world. We have as many jerks per capita as anywhere else.

  • Stephen
    August 06, 2013 - 09:27

    I have to agree with Gene from NC. We have a long way to go to make this place live up to the reputation we like to spread about ourselves world-wide. Instead, many of us just spread garabage around in the woods. I can see her point about careless ATV riders on public roads and people parking in front of stores and firelanes. Not acceptable. Yet we have some municipalities who now permit ATVs on public roads. Accident waiting to happen. Visitors who take a walking tour on our railbed or T'railway because Provincial Govt promotes it, take their lives in their own hands almost mowed down and rocks in the face. They'll never come back again.

  • Laura Smith
    August 06, 2013 - 09:22

    I agree with Margaret Ayad. Gene, it is very unfortunate that you have had a bad experience in our sacred Newfoundland. I am from the CBN area and find it sad that you have nothing but negative comments to say about it and us. You are honestly the first person I have ever heard of to say such things. Although, I find that litter is a potential problem here and we should crack down on it more and there is crime here, I also find it hypocritical of you to say such things being from the USA. We do have cable in Newfoundland and are more than aware of the crime rates and terroristic acts in pretty much any part of "your" country. I do not litter and I am an animal lover as well and am disgusted when I see animal abuse. Just to advise you it happens all over the world. Just because you visit one place and don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Did you actually go anywhere and take in the scenery? Or were you too busy taking notes with your note pad because it seems to me that you are very quick to judge us based on things that go on all over the world. People arguing over land? Really? Put your ear plugs in or go to the beach. Did you just stand there listening? Vehicle inspections....I know this is an occurrence however, maybe people can't afford to have a new vehicle and that's all they have to get around. Maybe you should invest your next round of vacation money into getting them a new vehicle. Newfoundland is a great province no matter if you're from Conception Bay or "Bonavista". It doesn't matter. There were some valid points made, however, it seems that you were too busy trying to get it all down on paper rather than actually opening your eyes to the beauty before you.

    • B Andrews
      August 06, 2013 - 10:59

      I totally agree with Laura,& Margaret.There were some valid points made. I have travelled to the states where myself & my travelling companions have also encountered many rude,arrogant,& "I'm better than you" kind of people.However I don't judge the whole of the U S. by those people I've encountered.I don't agree with cruelty to animals of any kind,I am an animal lover.Mr. Poole, how about all the cruelty to human beings that go on pretty much every hour in the U S.that we see on CNN or our regular news.If we decided not to travel to the states because of things that happened, there wouldn't be much money from our province spent there.in the United States.I suggest you take out your notebook and start jotting down notes about your neck of the woods. Also if your friends & co-workers are anything like yourself,please don't recommend our province to them. .

  • Steve
    August 06, 2013 - 09:21

    Does this letter upset me? Yes. Is it 100% true? You bet.

  • Lois
    August 06, 2013 - 09:17

    I am so sorry you did not come to the Southern Shore!! This is God's Country - you might have to drive an hour for a big store with lines but you have never seen prettier country or met nicer people - try Bauline or Cape Broyle or WItless Bay - whoever directed you to CBN was driving an ATV, not hiking the East Coast Trail.

    • J
      August 06, 2013 - 18:41

      you obviously don't get out much. I was born and raised in witless bay and just moved back recently. ATV on side and main roads is normal and they usually have with no lights, no helmets; then there's litter everywhere - you should come partake of the harbour cleanup every year; cigarette butts everywhere; illegal dumping on dean's road, excessive speeding through the community and on and on...

  • Anna
    August 06, 2013 - 09:17

    Even though this letter reflects on just one part of the province, the writer is entirely correct in what he has to say, just the fact that he took time out to write this letter must have meant what he saw bothered him. Our population would love to believe we are like those tourist ads on tv but in reality, part of the population is dirty, ignorant and certainly not law abiding. It is obvious we hate being critized but if you travel outside this province you will find that people certainly live differently and treat their tourists with upmost respect.

  • EDfromRED
    August 06, 2013 - 09:14

    I have to agree somewhat with Gene, around the bay Bigfoot sightings are more frequent than patrol cars. That's a great thing for speeders, drunk drivers, litterer's, parking violators &grow-op growers...not so much for the rest of us. Since the authorities in St. John's insist that crime is under control there, maybe they can send some extra officers our way?

  • cmc
    August 06, 2013 - 09:13

    Real or not; fake name or not - I agree with the letter. I live in a small, rural Central location. I am not impressed by the driving (illegal behaviours; pathetic manners, etc.) I am continually cleaning trash off my front yard, left there by folk too lazy to take it to their homes and throw away. I see more animal neglect and mistreatment than I care to list. I see/hear more rude behaviour than I'd rather. However, it's universal. NL is no better than any other place any longer, and possibly worse than others - or is perceived as such, based on erroneous expectations of those who have been deluded into expecting that NL's are generous, friendly souls - opening their doors to strangers continually, etc. This may happen in some places, but I'd suspect is much rarer than many of the offended respondents seem to think.

  • Pete Tridish
    August 06, 2013 - 09:13

    North Carolina has gone from having the 26th highest poverty rate in the nation a decade ago to having the 12th highest now. More than 1.7 million N.C. residents are poor – more people than the entire population of New Hampshire. And more than half a million of those poor are children – one out of every four children in the state. Among minority children, the statistics are even worse: More than 40 percent live in poverty. That means two of every five children of color are living in poverty. That land argument you were eavesdropping on was between me and my brother, and we heard you there and though you were a real estate spy.

  • david
    August 06, 2013 - 09:09

    First off...sorry to the visitor. You swere sold a bill of goods, and you thought it was true. As for us, perhaps this is a great moment. The moment when someone here finally sees and admits that the Emperor has no clothes. That the myths of Newfoundland friendliness and community spirit and generosity finally start to get revealed as pure bunk. And it would be better fro everyone here if that happened...not in the short term, but in the long term. People here need to realize how backwards and petty things are before wee can improve them...not for the tourists sake, but for our own. Right now, everything is hush hush, keep it bottled up while the precious tourists are here...it is all one big lie. This place needs some honest introspection. Badly. Urgently.

    • Ex-Newf
      August 06, 2013 - 09:41

      Here Here!!!

  • Darrell
    August 06, 2013 - 09:04

    While I don't think this letter is real it sure does expose some truths in this province. Newfoundlanders keep telling themselves they are the most friendly people on earth and while this is quite often the case, it certainly isn't the rule. Whether its ATV's in the streets, garbage dumped in the woods, crazy drivers, people pushing in the stores or the reaction to visible minorities. In the meantime we're not worse than anywhere else but Newfoundlanders shouldn't kid themselves about this place being some magical utopia. I just think we need to face some hard facts and try to improve!

  • Mandy
    August 06, 2013 - 09:02

    We do have a beautiful province it is the people who are ruining it. Everything in that letter is SO true and even worse in so parts. People in this province are rude, ignorant and selfish who don't care about anybody but themselves. If I was a visitor I wouldn't want to come back and there is days I wish I had the funds to move out of here.

  • Mike D
    August 06, 2013 - 08:59

    Every word of the letter is true.

  • NLer
    August 06, 2013 - 08:48

    I don't care if this email is made up or not...everything stated here is true and I see it daily. NLers think they're perfect and have the most entitled attitude I have ever seen. If you look for the complaints mentioned here, you won't have to look long or hard. Forget the source and look inward: If we want to be the province we think we are, we need to actually be the good people we stopped being in the past decade. I am siding with Gene, real or not.

    • Nikki from NL
      August 06, 2013 - 09:58

      Real or not, there are a few points here. BUT in reality, no place is perfect. The facts are, this whole thing points out the NEGATIVE things... No mention of any good things? That's ridiculous. What about the people? I bet they NEVER felt hospitality like they received here. People smiling and saying hi to everyone. In all reality, the positives outweigh the negatives. So whomever this person is, real or not, shouldn't have trashed our province. Yes, you have the right to say you didn't enjoy these things, but at least write something good about your experience. THAT would show some RESPECT.

  • Carolyn
    August 06, 2013 - 08:38

    I understand that you possibly had a bad experience when you were here, happens often in ALL places of the world, but honestly......you come to NFLD, stay in one place, don't even try to experience the rest of the province and you are going to complain about neighbours arguing and animal cruelty.....Sure you were told that NFLD is a great place BECAUSE IT IS. And I can't believe that this day in age, someone would be so shallow minded as this and write an article in OUR newspaper as to the horrible experience you had in a GROCERY STORE line !!! Seriously........get a life.

  • THE BIG CAT
    August 06, 2013 - 08:35

    Why was this letter posted on The Telegram? Since when do we give Yanks, that clearly did not put any research into where to visit (CBN? for the things he listed he wanted, i could name 50 better towns of the top of my head) the time of day in our newspaper? Go down to George Street Fest and talk to the Canucks and Yanks visiting, ask them if they like Newfoundland, ill bet you all of them are the opposite of this old sook, Gene 'im a pretentious snob' Poole, don't bother comin back!

    • wavy
      August 06, 2013 - 10:29

      That's the attitude! Don't give us your honest impression, just get the hell out, take all your money with you and tell your friends not to bother. Why don't you call him stupid while you're at it?

  • Marilyn
    August 06, 2013 - 08:30

    Sorry to hear about your experience, but not surprised. The friendly, generous Newfoundland culture that may have once existed is now little more than a memory in some places. And the incidents you describe such as the cars parked in front of doors instead of in parking spaces, is dead on. I'd like to say that things are better the further you get away from St John's and Conception Bay, but I'm not convinced that's the case. The physical beauty of this place is undeniable but the wonderful hardworking people with the big hearts that we have become famous for, are hugely outnumbered by ignorant, self centered idiots who have no consideration for anyone else. It's such a shame.

  • paul
    August 06, 2013 - 08:27

    this person probably fell victim of location. I've seen a number of 'bed and breakfasts' and tourist cottages that I would not rent to a dog...poor location and shabby conditions (there should be standards required)...he should have done some research on the lodging before hand...and he lost me altogether when he mentioned animal cruelty and PETA..this tells me he was willing to think the worst of Newfoundlanders from the get go. Its sad that he had a bad time but I think he is pre-wired to have a bad time in NL.

  • Geoff Carolan
    August 06, 2013 - 08:25

    Sorry guys, i must concur with Gene. I emigrated to Nflnd from Ireland jan of this year, three months later i came back to Ireland. It was my third time there, 1st time was in 2000, and sadly will be my last. I met only a handful of decent newfoundlanders in the 3 months i was there, and all that crime :( yuk!

    • Vex Murphy
      June 22, 2014 - 14:52

      Sorry you were disappointed Geoff. Did you miss the junkies and rampant racism of dear old Erin?

  • John
    August 06, 2013 - 08:18

    I agree with every thing you said, all those things you listed disgust me about the area as well. However, it's not indicative of the whole province. St. John's and the surrounding area is changing for the worse, but for an authentic small town experience, you would have been better off staying in Central, Bonavista area, or the west coast. Sorry to hear you had a bad time, but you definitely got a taste of what it's like to live here, and not just the tourism ad version.

  • DP
    August 06, 2013 - 08:15

    Sorry to hear our grocery stores did not meet your expectations. I find it funny that you come looking for a quaint and rural experience then rank your holiday largely on the available parking at shopping centers and the check out process at grocery stores. I can see why you were disappointed. You hit the nail on the head when you said "Maybe this is how things are done here, but where I come from...". This is a mentality that we Newfoundlanders are not unaccustomed to hearing from American Tourists. Why would you travel across the continent looking for a cultural experience and expect everything to be the same as home? It's not. It won't be. Especially here. I believe if you spent more of your holiday enjoying the rural experience,Visiting our parks, finding the amazing vistas you will find nowhere else, spotting wildlife you would never see in north Carolina, I wouldn't have had to read that letter. Oh, and don't apologize to us. We are happy to live here. Most Newfoundlanders would do anything possible to stay on this island.

    • April
      August 06, 2013 - 10:09

      You hit the nail on the head!

  • Daryl Pinksen
    August 06, 2013 - 08:10

    Don't shoot the messenger Newfoundlanders, she's right. Only people who've never spent time off the island can continue to delude themselves that we are, as a group, friendly and welcoming. Our province is dirty. The number of people here who litter, i.e. selfish, lazy, ignorant slobs, is very very high. And politeness? Don't kid yourselves, we are not polite, and we are not friendly to strangers. We don't have an image problem, Newfoundlanders, we have an actual problem.

  • A Newfoundlander
    August 06, 2013 - 08:07

    @ A Business Man !you are just that a business man if you wanted to exclude everyone from NL you should have sold your rental property here as well.I can understand you want to be where the best income would be,which is maybe on the Mainland or other Atlantic Provinces that way people don't have the added expense of the ferries.But believe me I had been all over other Atlantic provinces and there are a lot worst of places then we are.Glad you left we don't need your kind here.

  • K.M
    August 06, 2013 - 08:04

    I'm not sure how I feel about this. I am a born and bred Newfoundlander who has been living away for 5 years. My husband and I come home every summer and we long for home every day all year long. We are planning on moving back home next year because it's where our hearts are. No amount of money or success can change that. I haven't noticed these things when we come home to visit but it makes me sad that this woman had this kind of experience in my favourite place in the whole world. I constantly complain about where I live now (on the mainland) because of every one of these reasons listed. It actually makes me sick to my stomach that someone would see our wonderful Newfoundland in that light. Some parts of me want to scream that she is mistaking or that she is exaggerating but something tells me she's not. I beg each and every one of you to help change what this woman experienced. What we have is too rare and too precious to lose. I don't want to come home to a Newfoundland that is like everywhere else in the world, I want to come home to an island that this woman thought she was coming to. Full of a people of culture and courtesies rarely found in the rest of this crazy world.

    • Jamie
      August 06, 2013 - 10:17

      K.M.: We moved home 5 years ago from Ontario, where we lived for over 20 years. Like you, we longed to "come home". All I will say is think long and hard about it, it isn't the same Newfoundland I (we) grew up in. Our experiences have been less than stellar since we came home and I for one, feel Gene hit the nail right on the head. And I was raised in CBN, and live in the Bay Roberts area now. To those of you disagreeing with the writer of the letter to the Telegram, I'm of the opinion you are looking at Newfoundland through rose coloured glasses for the most part. Open your eyes; take a drive around the bay and see the number of dirt bikes and ATVs on public roads at any time, look at the garbage strewn roads, look at the drivers of "SOME" vehicles and their total disregard for rules of the road, look at the number of dogs left out chained up or in small pens 24/7, look at the laziness of people as you are driving by the fire lane of any mall or supermarket, etc, etc. While we can't generalize and paint all Newfoundlanders with the same brush, there are an amazing number of us who fit Gene's description of the "lack of respect" given to our beloved province.

    • Jewels
      August 06, 2013 - 15:05

      Hey K.M. , I also agree with Jamie. I moved home too - expecting it to be a great change from being away from Newfoundland for so long. But, I regret my decision now. It is great to be home around family, but this place is terrible. Everything that Jamie states is true. I see those things every day also.

  • Matthew
    August 06, 2013 - 07:48

    Your sure you were in NL?

  • K.M.
    August 06, 2013 - 07:45

    I'm not sure how I feel about this. I am a born and bred Newfoundlander who has been living away for 5 years. My husband and I come home every summer and we long for home every day all year long. We are planning on moving back home next year because it's where our hearts are. No amount of money or success can change that. I haven't noticed these things when we come home to visit but it makes me sad that this woman had this kind of experience in my favourite place in the whole world. I constantly complain about where I live now (on the mainland) because of every one of these reasons listed. It actually makes me sick to my stomach that someone would see our precious Newfoundland in that light. Some parts of me want to scream that she is mistaking or that she is exaggerating but something tells me she's not. I beg each and every one of you to help change what this woman experienced. What we have is too rare and too precious to lose. I don't want to come home to a Newfoundland that is like everywhere else in the world, I want to come home to an island that this woman thought she was coming to. Full of a people of culture and courtesies rarely found in the rest of this crazy world.

  • John Smith
    August 06, 2013 - 07:45

    Well, Gene...don't let the door hit you on the way out. Funny, though, I have been to North Carolina on several occasions, as I have family there, and your description of rural NL reminded me of rural NC...to a tee. Sounds like the gene pool in NC is pretty shallow...LOL

  • disgusted
    August 06, 2013 - 07:41

    "gene poole"... really? .. the telegram doesn't catch this crock before it hits the paper and the internet.... how stupid are you people..... are you desperate enough for publicity that you are now posting and printing fake Letters.... sad.. anyone who reads this and believes this is actually a real personal experience is more retarded than the writer and the publisher...

  • Michelle
    August 06, 2013 - 07:39

    I don't understand why this person did not do their research before they booked their stay. I mean theres nothing wrong with CBN,I spend most of my summers there, but if she wanted the 'tourism ad' Newfoundland thats not the place to stay. It sounds awfully fishy to me. Then again all her complaints are very true! But she needed to do a little more homework if she was looking for the quaint Newfoundland town thats on the commercials

  • Margaret Ayad
    August 06, 2013 - 07:23

    So sorry you had a bad experience. Frequently comments made are an inward reflection of the person who writes them, more than an outward view of what they are seeing. Sometimes, we let the few negatives overwhelm the positives. While I believe these statements are true, there are 1000s of other amazing, touching, and very beautiful experiences that a person must have found in Conception Bay North. Look at any of the "large towns" - Brigus, Cupids, North River, South River, Clarke's Beach, Bay Roberts, Spaniard's Bay, Upper Island Cove, Harbour Grace, Carbonear, Freshwater, Victoria, Salmon Cove. I challenge any person, any place on earth to find more beautiful scenery and more friendly people. Although there are a few exceptions, people are helpful, kind and friendly. (Personally, I think of the number of times people wave me ahead in the Supermarkets when I just have a few items... the two young men who stopped and fixed a tire for me...just in the past couple of months.) When we look for negativity anywhere - we are sure to find it.

  • Rich Spencer
    August 06, 2013 - 07:20

    You had me until you got to 'notorious for animal cruelty'. Do you think none of this stuff goes on in North Carolina?

  • A newfoundlander
    August 06, 2013 - 07:16

    Sorry Gene you never had a great experience,but hopefully you will give us another try but try a different place in NFLD.I am from St Johns and you are right the police here need to step up and do their job ticketing these drivers for being on their cell phones,parking an fire lanes like you said in shopping malls,super markets and especially in school zones which I see all the time,the speeding traffic and people throwing garbage though their car windows,we don't see ATV,s on our city streets but no they are not permitted to drive on streets,but it is an everyday sight when you get outside of St John,s.It is not nice to feel unsafe when you vacation somewhere,I had just visited Jamaica after being told what a beautiful place this was I never felt so unsafe in all my life and I swore never to visit there again whether I will or I won't I don't know but right now I say no.You will get some nasty comments here but please don't base it on all of us Nfld,ers

  • Donny Dooley
    August 06, 2013 - 07:06

    Gene fell for those tourism ads...too funny! I'd rather spend the night in the median on the Outer Ring Road than in CBN. No offence!.

  • Stephen D Redgrave
    August 06, 2013 - 07:02

    You're so right Gene: The intelligent, well behaved Newfoundlanders, either live in mainland Canada, or stay well hidden in their home province. There are a lot of great people here--finding them is not always easy.

  • Kc
    August 06, 2013 - 07:00

    Hello Gene Poole???? Seriously, that is your name? You had a moment in time here in NL so what you saw might be true but like any moment in time it does not represent the majority. You should try coming back and spending time in another place to change your mind.

  • a business man
    August 06, 2013 - 06:58

    Great letter! Whenever someone tells me they want to see the Atlantic provinces, I tell them to skip newfoundland. The things you complain about in your letter represent my experience in newfoundland for many years. It is why my family left newfoundland decades ago, and it is why I have returned to liquidate anything of value (except rental housing) that we own. Yes, I was born and raised here, but I have investments in the tourism industries of the other Atlantic provinces, so it is good for me when people choose another province instead of newfoundland. I will be sure to forward a link to this webpage to everyone I know so that they are reminded that there are better places to visit.

    • Joe
      August 06, 2013 - 08:12

      After last weeks Calgary experience, why does The Telegram continue to post this sick person's comments.

    • Drivegirl
      August 06, 2013 - 09:10

      Wow - left decades ago? Really? I doubt if you have any roots in this province at all. If you do, you are not a typical NLer. I also love that all you want to do is make money off the province. Why keep your rental properties if this is such a crappy place to live. Must be hard looking after all those crappy tenants in this province you can't stand. Makes me wonder where you actually moved that it's so much better. Whatever the case, I have lived away - BC, Ontario, Alberta - for more than half my adult life. I have seen many things that would leave you gut-wrenched. But they weren't happening here. It was on the mainland. Please, forward on the link to EVERYBODY you know... All three of those people with an actual brain in their head.....Well, they probably know better than to pay attention to whatever opinion you're got. Just sayin'.

    • Fraser
      August 06, 2013 - 09:57

      For someone that don't like the province and having rental property here making money of other people coming to visit. Think you should get off NL all together,there are many many people that love to visit this great province of NL and come back year after year.

  • Nick Martin
    August 06, 2013 - 06:57

    It's not the Newfoundland I left 13 years ago. Having moved back recently from Vancouver Island I see and hear things daily that make me wonder why.

  • Tom
    August 06, 2013 - 06:53

    I think you chose the wrong part of the province for a holiday. You would have had a different experience in Bonavista Bay.

    • wavy
      August 06, 2013 - 09:19

      I see- so, people don't litter, speed or ride ATVs on the road in BB? Don't kid yourself. The crowd in Charlottetown do all of the above, inside a national park, and claim it is their God-given right.

  • Ian Leary
    August 06, 2013 - 06:28

    As a Brit. with a Newfoundland grandfather I visited the island a couple of years ago and could not disagree more with the writer regarding Newfoundland. My wife and I found all the people very friendly and welcoming on our extensive visit. I also have visited many different countries over the years and I can truly state that Newfoundland was the best and most rewarding experience of them all. You are lucky to live in such a beautiful place and please don't change too much. All the very best. Ian Leary-Somerset England

  • Jennifer
    August 06, 2013 - 06:15

    WOW! I am shocked to say the least. However, the majestic beauty of the province is not in one specific area. You missed out by not seeing the rest of our beautiful province. It's your loss I guess that you chose to spend your time in CBN....What about the Western, Cental and Northern parts of the province? Like I said before, it's your loss, you obviously didn't travel, just "relaxed" in one area.

    • backfromaway
      August 06, 2013 - 13:02

      I moved back home six years ago. I left when I was 18 and was gone 31 years. I came home every year to visit and was excited to come home... but the saying "You can never go home" is true. While there are parts that are good, for the most part it has been very difficult. Except for the people who were adults when I left (those still with us), I am treated as an outsider in my own hometown. The contempt for outsiders is palpable. I now live in SJ and I can honestly say I was shocked by the rudeness and social ignorance of the people I run into on the streets and in malls. There are no social graces. I have said now for 6 years that the friendly Newfoundlander is a myth. Litter and arrogance and ignorance about animal welfare is atrocious and the saddest thing is... they do not want to know any better! We have been so busy for the last 20 years making beautiful ads to get people here we never stopped to consider that we have work to do... once they are here. That work should not be for the sale of the tourists, but for livyers, to make ours a better place to be. I am a proud Newfoundlander, but we have dropped ball in our society. This is not the place where I grew up, where men were the leaders of the community, not out in the shed drunk and stoned, where women worked hard to make life right for everyone, not counting the days till the next drunken night out. Gene's observations may hurt our feelings and our pride, but it should be a wake up call. We have devolved and we will soon pay the price... we will live up to the stereotype the mainlanders have had for years of us.

    • mel
      February 22, 2014 - 13:21

      All this defensiveness is discouraging. The author of this letter speaks the truth. I'm not getting into my experience here, but I will say it's been mostly negative. I have lived and worked all over Canada and parts of the US. I haven't experienced the negative attitudes like I have here. I wanted to finish my career here and retire here. After 3 years of being here, I find myself discouarged and wanting to leave. This is a beautiful province with some beautiful people, but there is also a very ugly side that many NLers are in denial about. Unfortunatley, unless we start to accept constructive critisim this place will just flounder. To the people that are ignoring the comments because this person was a member of PETA...I would like to say, that I'm NOT a member of PETA and I am an avid hunter/fisherman. Many people here are cruel to animals and I have seen and heard horrendous stories, especially when it comes to treatment of hunting dogs, like beagles. I find many people here live off the land, but don't respect the land. Driving ATV's on senstive areas (mash), leaving garbage everywhere in the woods, bragging about poaching, throwing moose hides on the sides of the road when then can be used or given to first nation communties, shooting birds of prey because they don't want them eating the partridge or fish, etc. I guess I'm next up now be attacked and insulted.