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  • Herb Morrison
    January 08, 2014 - 08:05

    Si8mply because your lack of faith in God and i8n Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord leaves you blind to the Truth as revealed in Scripture, this does not mean that the truth is not there. As i8 have attempted to explai8n to you because you lack Faith, because you have choosen not to believe in God and in Christ as Savior and Lord, your choice leaves you incapable of recognizing the Truth contained in Scripture. The fact that you, because of the choice you have made, lack either the eyes to see or the ears to hear the truth contained in Scripture; doesn't mean that the Truth is not there. It means that you are either unwilling or unable to recognize the truth.*In any event, as I* explai8ned to you in anearl8ier post, I am not called, as a Christian to prove anything to you.The choice to believe or not is yours to make.

    • Abdul Saieed
      January 08, 2014 - 11:18

      Herb, I'm just wondering why you don't proclaim faith in the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and as the Truth as proclaimed in the Koran. Happy Holidays to ALL, even you John. (We're coming for you)

    • Ed Power
      January 08, 2014 - 13:02

      No proof to offer. Got it. Thanks.

    • Kyle
      January 08, 2014 - 21:35

      I believe in the lord savior Tooth Fairy. I'd explain that to ya too. It'd make almost as much sense.

  • Ed Power
    January 08, 2014 - 01:05

    Still no truth " of the Gospels, being realized before their eyes" to offer, Mr. Morrison? Mr. Morrison? Mr.Morrison...?

    • Colin Burke
      January 08, 2014 - 11:18

      Mr. Power, I have an impression -- only an impression from very general reading, not founded on dedicated research -- that those who assemble the evidence to show that the Gospel's events did not in fact occur, are very largely persons holding a priori the philosophical belief that they could not have occurred and that that belief is very largely the reason for the evidence. If there is any such evidence that would convince someone whose philosophy allows for the occurrence of such events, I should like to see it -- though without having to pore through ponderous tomes whose content would likely be largely lost on an intelligent general reader and for the truth of which such a reader would have to rely on the expertise of the experts who wrote those tomes.

  • Kyle
    January 07, 2014 - 21:32

    Great job belittling the trans community with that snide remark about "sir" or "ma'am" offending someone that could be transgendered?? What? Seriously? I know Port au Port probably isn't the most cultured place on earth, but seriously? I love when Christians are offended that they can't shove their views down everyone else's throat all the time. It's hilarious. Someone else having the same rights as you, can't have that! Time to rant about the liberals and society as we know it collapsing! Face it. Some people don't celebrate Christmas. You are no more important because you do. It's better to be inclusive of all people than solely Christians just because they think they're the most important. Your transphobia shows as well with that completely unnecessary and belittling remark that completely undermines just how serious gender identity issues can be. Grow up.

    • Colin Burke
      January 08, 2014 - 08:30

      Is it possible that resentment at Christians trying to "shove their views down everyone else's throat all the time" may sometimes be only frustration at being unable to refute an argument which a Christian presents? Why assume that my remark about the transgendered was meant to be snide and not a plea for tolerance of my own identity in what is probably not the most cultured place on earth? Or does it really seem logical to believe that a reasonable person must mean that kind of remark to be rather lightly made?

    • John
      January 08, 2014 - 09:19

      Once again political correctness has reared it's ugly head. I read the letter by Mr. Burke and am left scratching my head as to why you (Kyle) assert he has offended the trans community. I and everybody I know use salutations such as sir and madame, and in doing so have never intended to offend anyone. Apparantly there are certain people in our society who become hypersensitive when a christian goes out of their way to publically express an opinion, Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

    • Colin Burke
      January 09, 2014 - 09:32

      Kyle, if you regard being transgendered as a misfortune in itself rather than as a condition which sometimes has unfortunate concomitants such as scorn for the transgendered (as some might scorn the inordinately wealthy) I apologize for joking about it. But I had an impression that the transgendered very largely regard their being transgendered as a source of PRIDE and that that might well sustain a hint of levity. Sorry if that was mistaken.

  • Herb Morrison
    January 07, 2014 - 19:18

    Mr. Power. As Jesus said to one on the individuals with whom he came in contact during His earthly Ministry, the one thing you lack is Faith. Whether or not you Believe in God or the teachings of Scripture, that is a choice that is yours to make. Although I am curious to know why person who professes to be an atheist, would go to such great lengths to disprove either the existence of God or the Truths contained in Scripture. As a Christian, I asm not called to prove the existence of God to either professing atheists such as yourself or anyone else. You are free to choose whether to believe or not. In Faith I am as a professing called by God through Christ, by the power of the Holy Spirit to preach my Faith cheifly by living my life in according with the principlers of Christianity in which I choose to believe. Your blatant disrespect for myself and other Christians right to pracrtice what we preach is not unexpected. However, because of your lack of Faith, as attested to by the fact that you are an atheist, I am not surprised by your admission that you cannot understand the Truth of the Word of God either as it is revealed in Scripture or revealed to you, in God's name by either myself or other Believers. I have stated my truths and I am moving on......

    • Kyle
      January 07, 2014 - 21:35

      Oh for the love of god (no pun intended), your "right" to practice Christianity does not equate you shoving it down everyone's throats as the truth. Nobody is going to any length to disprove whatever's in that little book you picked up in the Fiction section at Chapters. Time to enter the 21st century and the real world and think for yourself.

    • Ed Power
      January 08, 2014 - 00:56

      I don't have to disprove the existence of gods/demons/deities or other creations of the human imagination, Mr. Morrison, the lack of any evidence supporting their existence is proof enough. As the late Carl Sagan said , "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof", something that religions - all the thousands of religions created by man - have failed to provide over the millennia. It reminds me of the infamous debate between Fox News mouthpiece Bill O'Reilly and David Silverman of the American Atheists organization, in which O'Reilly's "coup-de-grace" was the infamous line "Tides go in, tides go out, you can't explain that" which, understandably, left Silverman stunned. Commenting on O'Reilly's ignorance of basic physics, Astronomer Neil de Grasse Tyson observed in a later interview (available on You Tube), "If that is how you want to invoke your evidence for God, then God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance, that is getting smaller and smaller as times go on". Perhaps your God might take time out from his busy schedule of appearing on deformed Cheetos and water-stained walls to grace us with his presence. I won't hold my breath.

  • Ed Power
    January 07, 2014 - 17:12

    "I would like to thank Mr. Power and those who continue, as is their legal right to do so, to spew their atheistic rhetoric, all the while ignoring the reality that the truth of the Gospels is right before their eyes...... " These wouldn't be the same Gospels of which no original copies remain, would they Mr. Morrison? The same Gospels whose earliest surviving (Greek and Coptic) copies date from the second century CE? The same Gospels that were written decades after the "fact" by people who had no first-hand knowledge of what they wrote? The same Gospels that were passed from church to church by word of mouth prior to their being written down, then transcribed and copied by later scribes who were mostly illiterate, copying the Greek and (later) Latin symbols from the papers presented to them onto other papers , and which were edited dozens (and hundreds) of times by the followers of various Christian sects - sometimes innocently, many other times to erase "heresies" from accepted doctrine? Would those be same Gospels to which you refer? The Gospels that for most of (Latin) Christian history were based upon flawed translations that dated to no earlier than the eight century CE, and which treated the earliest, and closest to the original, Greek copies as heretical abominations? Those Gospels? I'm curious, Mr. Morrison. What "truth of the Gospels", pray tell, is being "realized right before" our eyes?

  • Herb Morrison
    January 07, 2014 - 15:16

    Mr. Burke. Through our exchanges of opinions via this site, I both recognize and-.0 respect the fact that you are a devout Christian in general and a devout Roman Catholic in particular.As Christian, I would suggest to you, that for both you and I, and indeed all Believers; this should be a time of rejoicing. Why, because the teachings of Christ, as revealed in the Gospel,specifically in the Beatitudes, is coming to fruition in our time. Jesus said: "Blessed are you when people shall persecute you, and revile you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in Heaven.. For so persecuted they the Prophets which came before you." I would like to thank Mr. Power and those who continue, as is their legal right to do so, to spew their atheistic rhetoric, all the while ignoring the reality that the truth of the Gospels, is being realized before their eyes, which unfortunately remain blinded because they choose, which they have the right to do so, not to believe the Truth as revealed in both the Gospels and other portions of the Bible. As for you, Mr. Power, your belittleing of other people expressing themselves on this site, because they don't use fifty-cent words when expressing their opinions, is, in my opinion reprehensible at best. The integrity, truth, or value of someone's opinion should not be determined based on the number of fifty-cent words that the person in question is able to use while expressing that opinion.

    • Ed Power
      January 07, 2014 - 18:26

      I belittled no one, Mr. Morrison. I was, in fact, insulted by "Mike" for using words that he seems to have some difficulty understanding. I merely observed that none of the words I used - or that Mr. Burke and or the other commenters used - were, as you put it, "fifty-cent words", and that any problem with comprehension likely were his own to resolve. Perhaps, like "Chris", I should've have dismissed his comments with humour, as I can't help but notice that you found no similar fault with his reply to "Mike". Frankly, I'm disappointed in your criticism, as my original comment on Mr. Burke's excellent letter was a defence of the true "reason for the season" - the cultural and various religious origins of the Christmas/Winter holiday - and a criticism of the commercial madness that the holiday has become. It had nothing to do with atheism or any particular religious mythology, it was a commentary on greed and thoughtless consumption in a world of finite resources.

  • John
    January 07, 2014 - 11:41

    I don't put up a holiday tree or holiday decorations, I put up a Christmas tree and Christmas decorations. I send Christmas cards and not holiday cards to friends and family. I greet people with "Merry Christmas" when they cvome to my home, not happy holidays. I have no intention of dumbing down Christmas to satisfy those of other faiths or of no faith at all. Some argu that we must go with Happy Holidays in order to be more inclusive, well that inclusiveness doesn't exist in the countries where most of those people of other faiths come from, and they should not expect us to change our customs and traditions to suit them at our inconvenience. Maybe those who wish to be more inclusive will be comfortable with sharia law in this country.

  • Colin Burke
    January 07, 2014 - 10:04

    "Myriads of contradictions," Chantal. Name three and show how they prove that God cannot be infinitely powerful enough to join one of his personalities -- since Christians believe he is one God in three persons -- to a human nature he created? In case you doubt even the existence of an infinite God, I ask you to consider this argument for his existence: Things which can change can cease to exist so they require that a perfect existence which is not themselves but rather is itself -- a being which is its own existence -- to confer their existence upon them. We all know of beings which can change and so can cease to exist -- including rabbits, so the Trix Rabbit is not the source of existence for the universe.

    • Ed Power
      January 07, 2014 - 17:37

      For examples of the "myriad contradictions" between the thousands of versions of the Gospels created over the centuries - and how and why they came to be - I recommend Misquoting Jesus and Forged by Prof. Bart D. Erhman, New Testament scholar and the James A. Gray Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina (Chapel Hill). Erhman is an expert in "Textual Criticism"- the study of textual and transcription errors in ancient manuscripts - and has studied the Greek and Latin texts in their original languages.

  • Joe
    January 06, 2014 - 14:43

    Ah yes, the overwrought complaints of the Christian who is offended by being offered well wishes, but with the right words. The REAL Winter Classic. Happy Holidays.

    • Colin Burke
      January 07, 2014 - 10:12

      Joe, old top, you've not actually rebutted one sentence I wrote. Anyone can mock without trying to rebut; I could do it myself if mentally sufficiently indolent.

  • Colin Burke
    January 06, 2014 - 12:06

    Sorry: "none" in my reply to Chantal's comment ought to have been "any" or maybe "all." Getting careless in old age.

  • Ed Power
    January 06, 2014 - 11:52

    "Big words", Mike?!! After re-reading Mr. Burke's letter and the comments posted - including my own - again, I can't seem to find any words in any of them that aren't in common everyday usage. If words of two or more syllables are causing you difficulty, Mike, perhaps you might consider some remedial English Language courses....

  • Mike
    January 06, 2014 - 10:55

    What? Who are you trying to impress with all the big words? You must have eaten a dictionary for breakfast and started spewing!

    • Chris
      January 06, 2014 - 11:55

      Mike, Mike, Mike. Big words? Surely you jest. Sounds like you have a case of hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia.

  • Ed Power
    January 06, 2014 - 08:55

    The celebration of Christmas as a religious holiday is, for better or worse, becoming an anachronism. In much the same way that the Christian religion supplanted - by fire, sword and conquest - those that preceded it, absorbing and subsuming the religious feast days and holidays of the old faiths, the Christian festival is being replaced by the commercial one. In the early Christian days, the old temples and holy sites became Christian ones. The holidays and festivals became Christian ones and their origins faded into dim cultural memories. Festivals based upon the cycles of the seasons - the cycles of sowing and harvesting, the birth of new life in the spring and the "death" of life in the fall, the start of summer and the beginning of winter, the longest day and the longest night - became Christian feast or fast days. The Christian mythology notwithstanding, the conversion of a celebration of family and thanks into a celebration of crass commercialism, conspicuous consumption rum amok, where people are trampled and killed during sales on TV sets, cell phones and the latest video games is disgusting. In many places, employees are forced to work until late Christmas Eve and return late Christmas night so that stores can open early on Boxing Day to sell still more TV sets and video games to the avaricious crowds milling outside their doors. The life-giving cycle of the sun and the seasons have been replaced by the seasons of sales. The new places of worship are Big Box Stores and Factory Outlets. It's no wonder that many Christian sects believe that we are living in the End Times. "Merry Christmas", indeed. Now pass me the sales flyers...

  • Ed Power
    January 06, 2014 - 08:55

    The celebration of Christmas as a religious holiday is, for better or worse, becoming an anachronism. In much the same way that the Christian religion supplanted - by fire, sword and conquest - those that preceded it, absorbing and subsuming the religious feast days and holidays of the old faiths, the Christian festival is being replaced by the commercial one. In the early Christian days, the old temples and holy sites became Christian ones. The holidays and festivals became Christian ones and their origins faded into dim cultural memories. Festivals based upon the cycles of the seasons - the cycles of sowing and harvesting, the birth of new life in the spring and the "death" of life in the fall, the start of summer and the beginning of winter, the longest day and the longest night - became Christian feast or fast days. The Christian mythology notwithstanding, the conversion of a celebration of family and thanks into a celebration of crass commercialism, conspicuous consumption rum amok, where people are trampled and killed during sales on TV sets, cell phones and the latest video games is disgusting. In many places, employees are forced to work until late Christmas Eve and return late Christmas night so that stores can open early on Boxing Day to sell still more TV sets and video games to the avaricious crowds milling outside their doors. The life-giving cycle of the sun and the seasons have been replaced by the seasons of sales. The new places of worship are Big Box Stores and Factory Outlets. It's no wonder that many Christian sects believe that we are living in the End Times. "Merry Christmas", indeed. Now pass me the sales flyers...

    • Colin Burke
      January 07, 2014 - 15:08

      Anent Christmas's becoming an anachronism: Do you remember Chesterton's "A Shop of Ghosts," which I think you and I most likely read in school in more or less the same year?

  • Silly
    January 06, 2014 - 07:19

    Christmas has it's roots in pagan practices but today it's all about money.

  • Chantal
    January 06, 2014 - 06:32

    The manger, virgin born, myth aside, Christmas is one holiday, New Year's is another. Happy holidays normally refer to the two of them.

    • Colin Burke
      January 06, 2014 - 12:00

      Good point, Chantal. But I'd probably not have written that letter but for my hearing a TV broadcaster say, "Happy holiday -- and Happy New Year." As for those who think the Gospel of Christ is only one (false) myth among others, do you ever give a solid argument for that belief? After all, the existence of novels, even "novels" which are evidently "high fantasy" and don't really count as novels, does not prove that none of the Telegram's news stores are only made up to entertain.

    • Chantal
      January 06, 2014 - 13:02

      Solid arguments? What solid argument is there that the Trix Rabbit didn't create the universe? The argument is myriad of contradictions in the bible between the gospels and the questionable translations into Greek. Apart from all that, Christ was certainly not borm in December. As for "happy holidays," what's so wrong with being inclusive rather than exclusive?