Ocean-based salmon disaster too big to ignore

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Please allow me space to comment on the interview printed May 14, 2014, with the representative from the Newfoundland and Labrador Aquaculture Industry Association (NAIA) regarding the hundreds of thousands of dead, rotting salmon stuffed into putrefied open-net pens along our south coast.

In January, NAIA tried to convince us that their new Bay Management Plan was going to lead to suddenly sustainable self-governing salmon production.

What we see, instead, is nothing short of an eco-cidal aquacide disaster:

A) Smashed-up pens and debris drifting around our bays to damage fishing vessels, tangle props, cause snowmobile accidents and near fatalities, and kill marine mammals and wildlife.

B) A lack of testing and monitoring of caged and wild fish.

C) Thousands of ice blocks cut into the net-pen tops with oil spraying chainsaws leaving a big baited, open-water oil slick for marine birds and eagles;

D) Over 700 four-foot commercial fish tubs of rotting salmon removed by divers during mid winter and shipped to Barry Group Inc.’s Burgeo rendering plant for re-use into some human product.

E) Harbour seals with their lower jaws removed by the abnormal levels of sharks taking the fish right out of their mouths;

F) (For fail) an ever-growing number of 100-pound crates of lobster ruined from having eaten the rancid salmon grease now choking the shorelines, coves and lobster traps in our once pristine bays from the untold hundreds of thousands of putrefied salmon left all winter and spring.

What a first quarter! After the massive disasters, bankruptcies, etc. of 2011, 2012 and 2013, we can just imagine what the rest of 2014 holds.

NAIA fails to convince us they could not clean up their mess due to a lack of access to the cages caused by winter ice. They fail to mention how divers gathered the 700 plus tubs of rotted salmon mid-winter through the ice, or how the owners fed the caged fish through the ice.

In the middle of a disease outbreak and nonexistent testing, NAIA wants us to believe the fish were perfectly healthy and froze to death in some pens, but not others nearby — and not all of them froze to death?

Moreover, this also occurred in Nova Scotia without any ice? How do the salmon ever survive in the Davis Strait off Greenland all winter?

This conflicting logic is baffling until one remembers there are only three diseases (of the over 50 affecting salmon) that the industry gets compensated for.

Workers are exposing that the mortalities were likely exacerbated by the lack of oxygen from plugged netting and from feces piled up from living fish eating the rotting salmon and their own feces and getting even sicker. This is progress?

Excessive taxpayers’ compensation, tons of pesticides going into our bays, escapees, lice and disease outbreaks, wildlife kills, lack of transparency by government and their co-investors, and ocean grease pots created by rotting salmon all add to the disaster we have in this industry.

Who is overseeing ocean-based salmon farming?

Our governments clearly are not. It’s time to bring in an independent body to clean up this mess — otherwise, it’s eco-cidial aquacide as usual, thanks to government’s handmaiden’s role in industry’s profit-driven agenda.

Bill Bryden

Lumsden

Organizations: Barry Group Inc.

Geographic location: Nova Scotia, Greenland

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  • Paul
    June 06, 2014 - 11:14

    its really is not the disaster people like Bill make it out to be...see this if you won't take my word for it...and read lots, just watch who it comes from... http://www.seafoodsource.com/en/news/aquaculture/25232-noaa-coastal-aquaculture-environmentally-safe

  • Fergus Graham
    June 02, 2014 - 18:32

    This practice has to be stopped ,now not in a year's time but now . Thus practice is criminal .

  • Paul
    May 31, 2014 - 19:24

    this is another of your lies Bill, when did a girl actually die due to salmon farm debris in NL?? it is a fact that at least two people died due to mussel farm mooring lines, quite some time ago, but I think we would have heard about someone dying due to salmon farm debris. stop your lying or back up your claims. "a) debris and garbage is very very bad sending more than a half a dozen people in as many incident to the hospital some with life threatening injuries and one girl died - bad enough?"

  • paul
    May 30, 2014 - 12:56

    Bill, you haven't told me what 'human products' were being made from morts? You silence gives credence to my accusation...you wanted people to assume it was for human consumption...even if you didn't come righto out and say it. That is disingenuous if not an out and out lie. as for Ms. Morton and others like her, I know you won't read this but anyone else interested really should ...according to this article Morton's organization, Raincoast Research Alliance, has taken a considerable amount of funding from questionable foreign (american) sources. This is part of the assertion by the author that canadian Environmentalists take money from the Alaskan wild salmon processors lobby to prepare reports intended to make farmed salmon look bad. you have yet to address this assertion I put forward... http://www.farmfreshsalmon.org/sites/default/files/Follow%20the%20money%20feature.pdf and while we're at it, get me a link for some credible research that shows sea lice treatment, used properly on salmon farm sites, causes harm to wild life...I know it may accumulate in the immediate vicinity under the cages but I don't think they have found harm done to crustaceans or others...the poison is in the dose and it has to be concentrated in the cages to work on sea lice on salmon, but then its heavily diluted when the remainder (after treatment) is released to the environment....for analogy...a cup of bleach will burn you, but dump it into a swimming pool and you won't even notice it...

    • eyespy
      May 30, 2014 - 14:02

      Interesting that you would use the industry term for dead fish - "morts" - isn't it? What's your personal interest in the debate, Paul?

    • Paul
      May 31, 2014 - 07:10

      eyespy, no foolin you is there!? lol. I used to have a connection to the industry but no longer. and even if I did, tell me what is wrong with my points, rather than worry about if I work in the industry....attacking the messenger rather than dealing with the message is poor debate tactics. I find myself compelled to get in on these discussions because I know that most of the claims made against salmon farming are bullshit. Mistruths, half truths, exaggerations, worst case scenarios that do not represent the norm...so I weigh in to bring the balance back to center in these 'discussions' and its interesting when people call me out as an 'industry stooge' rather than discuss the things I say...then there are people who call me names rather than discuss the issues, then there are people who make spurious claims that can be interpretted as lies, who when I call them out on it, never respond to that specific charge, but redirect the 'discussion'... here is my pitch. Salmon farming, like all human activities does have an impact on the environment, but it is nothing like the nightmare 'some' people like to make it out to be. impacts on the environment are localised and mitigate naturally over time. There is no evidence that wild stocks are in decline because of salmon farms...(Conne River had a record high return in 2013)...the claims about PCB is bull crap as well...all our food has pcb in it, including wild salmon. some wild salmon have more than farmed salmon, and both wild and farmed have way less pcb than the safe food guidelines call for. so there is no issue with pcbs...just the perception. and if there are real, legitimate issues I will be happy to discuss them and even support them...but when so much baloney is tossed around, any real issues get lost. I repeatedly post an article about how foreign interests (Alaskan wild salmon industry) pays millions to canadian ENGOs to produce reports that make farmed salmon look bad, intentionally, to reduce the position of farmed salmon in the marketplace in order to improve it for wild salmon....yes, that is so environmentally sound, sell more wild salmon!? and no one , who regularly attacks salmon farming, responds to these assertions...the silence is deafening. so, that is my interest to counter the bullshit because I can.., that and long walks on the beach...

    • Not so gullible
      June 06, 2014 - 12:38

      Conne River had record returns of what Paul? Wild Salmon? Not bloody likely. That river's genetics are screwed thanks to escapees. Ditto for many of the nearby rivers on the South coast. How many returning fish are sampled for genetic pollution? When the industry PROVES their escaped garbage fish are not interbreeding and competing with wild fish you can make that claim. Ditto on parasites, and any effects on the ecosystem. You and the industry hide behind a lack of science smugly stating that there's no proof. That's been a common tactic of corporations that have poisoned us with untested practices and chemicals. When the proof is produced, they declare insolvency and leave the public to hold the bag for the mess they've created. Never mind funding from the Alaskan wild salmon fishery, where's the equivalent funding from the industry and Federal Government for science to investigate the effects of this garbage industry? I tell everyone I know to avoid farmed salmon until they can prove conclusively that the industry doesn't harm wild fish - and they're listening. Industry needs to take it's head out of the sand and start sponsoring independent science that evaluates their practices. I'll guarantee you that once land based salmon become widely available, they won't be able to sell feed lot fish for dog food. The anti-industry movement is growing, and will continue to grow until those raising the alarm have their concerns addressed.

  • paul
    May 30, 2014 - 12:42

    Bill, your comment about pcb's I can only call baloney...there is no credible evidence of unsafe pcb levels in farmed salmon, and some farmed have less pcb than some wild salmon...where do you get this stuff!? and posting Alexandra Morton as evidence is really no better than posting Pamela Anderson as proof that angling is cruel. at least give me something worth reading.

    • Bill Bryden
      May 31, 2014 - 12:12

      yes yes "Paul", NINA (one of the world's most respected ecology institutes) is full of scientists publishing garbage and baloney, just like the Canada's Royal Society of Scientists Fisheries Committee (full of PhDs)...we believe you "paul"....1,000s with PhDs don't...but we do. The local people complaining are all whiners and no nothings that shouldn't believe their eyes...we know. LOL Look up Ad Homenin for me will ya. If you don't like the FACTS ignore them while trying to "kill" and discredit the messenger...That is the only weapon ya got to try and ignore the images and facts presented? It's not looking good for your "kill land based salmon farming so we don't have to invest in permanent infrastructure crew". I think it's the complete lack of credibility that is leading you all down the path of the Dodo. Maybe go have a look at the 100+ photos in that slide show again and try and figure out how to explain them away again.

    • Paul
      May 31, 2014 - 20:23

      Bill, all I have to say to you is , just what 'human products ' were you referring to... and what do you have to say abotu assertions that foreign money pays for alot of the bunk used to attack salmon farming?

  • paul
    May 30, 2014 - 07:52

    Bill you caught me! however,... your words- "D) Over 700 four-foot commercial fish tubs of rotting salmon removed by divers during mid winter and shipped to Barry Group Inc.’s Burgeo rendering plant for re-use into some human product" what human product are you talking about and why not come out and say it?! you do not come out and say 'human consumption' but just what are you suggesting if not? if its just fertilizer, then say so, but that is not scarey and does not lend to your cause because fertilizer, a human product, would be completely acceptable use of morts. The lie here is the lie of ommission, you make a suggestive statement and leave it hanging for the reader to come to the conclusion that you want...which is the conclusion I came to. you also said- "B) A lack of testing and monitoring of caged and wild fish." which I call a lie because they routinely sample farmed salmon for disease and as I pointed out before, that is exactly how the ISA virus was detected, by routine testing even when there was no symptoms. Bill you use misinformation and lies to furtrher your cause, no better than how PETA does things. I have no problems discsusing real issues but with you I can not tell which are real and which are fake becuase you exagerate too, too much.

  • Edward Courtney
    May 30, 2014 - 07:39

    what does it take to wake the politicans up?This is destroying our marine environment,and soon there won't be anything left in the ocean fit to eat.

    • paul
      May 30, 2014 - 12:58

      don't believe everything you read or hear...do some research yourself and if you listen to the activists, be fair and go see what the industry and academics have to say...then decide.

  • Jan Pottie
    May 29, 2014 - 23:21

    Consumers are eating healthier and turning away from farmed fish. No one wants to eat all the chemicals.

    • paul
      May 30, 2014 - 07:12

      what chemicals? you are repeating a spurious rumour and a myth. no fish going to market, no matter what treatments they were exposed to in their production cycle, have pesticides or antibiotics in them. do you have any evidence to show they do?

    • Bill Bryden
      May 30, 2014 - 08:00

      Paul, not only have I spoken with people that worked inside the CFIA lab testing our local fish about what was described as "concerning levels of PCBs etc that were being ignored" I was also told that they no longer eat the stuff. I have even read some of the recent scientific literature from DFO and the peer reviewed journals concerning salmosan and other taxins. You should try doing some homework. Here, your buddy gathered up a little info for you. http://www.alexandramorton.ca/farmed-salmon-is-it-good-food/

  • tutu
    May 29, 2014 - 18:51

    You should be mad! You should be raving mad! Here in Nova Scotia try doing a Freedom of information request regarding the tonnes of dead fish being pulled from pens here and you get "We are refusing access......because of trade secrets." Whose trade secrets? What trade secrets? It's no longer secret that our governments are not governing they are aiding and abetting environmental crimes by these open net pens in our ocean waters. That's the only trade secret I can see them wanting to keep a secret.

  • Coaster
    May 29, 2014 - 16:41

    I am from the south coast and I can tell anyone who has not seen this mess ,that Bill Bryden is dead on and his information has to come from within the industry or most of it anyway. Cod fish on the south coast are caught and are full of the medicated feed, the lobsters that have been sold this season have had feed smell on them and taste poorly and the question is now whether the feed was medicated or not, the debris and mess around is out of control and the NAIA are constantly being contacted about this but won't take responsibility for this and calls anyone who questions it an enemy of the aquaculture industry. The workers still constantly kill tuna and discard them, although some does reach the table through the peddlers that work for the companies. The workers shoot and kill everything in site and the companies have permits and .22 calbre rifles on hand for this. The Conne River has right now as we speak 5-7 cages grounded in the mouth of the river that is on direct line with the wild salmon run, Workers themselves will tell you that the mess in the cages will turn your stomach. In addition to this the Fisherman's union rep in Hr. Breton is aware of the contaminated lobsters but does not want it advertised so that the lobster industry (not the aquaculture industry) won't get shut down and the lobster fishers will get hit hard and won't be able to sell their catch. The lobster fishery here have been controlled and thriving because of the great efforts by the lobster fishermen and women. I have been involved in this fishery and it does not deserve to be stopped because of people like Miranda Prior who cannot simply accept the truth. The price just came out for the cod and now people are questioning whether the areas where the cod are caught will be exposed to the markets so that people can ensure their safety when eating it. We the consumer should be able to know where the fish come from, if it is contaminated and so on and for the fishery union to help cover this up to protect the lobster and other specie fishers is wrong and irresponsible. Bill Bryden is right on but does not go far enough. This is only the tip of the iceberg. Try dealing with Miranda Prior who is with the NAIA. She is a stealthy person who does not care about the garbage free coastline we used to have and the fact that we used to have the ability to eat clean non diseased fish free of toxins. She to was warned about the fact that the lobsters would be contaminated with the blubber from the rotting salmon before the fish were rotting. Workers exposed this issue to some people long before Prior knew about it and when she did she stood firm and made a plan to counter the truth rather than take responsibility for the safety and the livelihood of all people and fishers on our coast. With regards to Paul's comments he is nothing more than a googler like most of us but the difference with some of us is that we are on the ground here and see this happening every day. This is a tragedy and the workers here are given a false sense that they will make a good living here in the new plant at Hermitage. If there was ever a chance of this working in the ocean it would have to be done with honesty, the companies would have to be transparent about the issues they faced and we would of all pulled together to get this done properly. When we hear Miranda Prior being interviewed on CBC and just about everything she says is so far from what is the reality of what is happening down here is simply wrong and she makes everyone suspicious of the industry by doing something as foolish as this. It is also time that the fisher people from the coast of bays stop their whining and do what they should do to get their own fishery on track. They stand around and talk to much and they to have to much faith put in to the Union that represents them. Time to man up and stop telling people that they don't want to be labelled the bad guy. Well its your living and you do care as you are always complaining. Don't be intimidated by Prior and people like Paul. Get her done, you are the people who keep the coastal communities of ours afloat not Miranda Prior.

    • paul
      May 30, 2014 - 07:57

      call on the media to do some investigative journalism and expose the industry if it is as bad as you claim...should be easy for a credible journalist to tear it apart. If it needs to be cleaned up, I have no issue with that fight..but its the unfounded generalisations and mistruths, used to attack salmon farming from BC to the Atlantic that bother me and I have posted on those already.

  • Jeff
    May 29, 2014 - 14:57

    For anyone that doubts Bill's comment do a little research as to what has happened to wild stocks of fish is nearly every place this toxic industry has spread. It is driven by the corporate machine and while it tries to cloak itself as environmentally friendly it is anything but! The truth is slowly but surely coming out and the end is near for this industry as is stands now. Land-based operations that are producing far superior fish without playing Russian roulette with the natural world will eventually corner the market! Shame on those with no ecological conscious!

    • Paul
      May 29, 2014 - 15:39

      you should do some research yourself and see that wild stocks are down in places with and without fish farms, and the one thing you can say with truth is this "where ever wild stocks are down, there is or was a commercial fishery for it"...and as for land based , please provide some evidence to this 'far superior' fish, presumably you mean salmon. There are a number of Research and develpoment projects for land based commercial growout to bring salmon to market in freshwater tanks, but to date, to my knowledge, the results are mixed , a number of these project failed, and some product has gone to the markte but it tastes different , as in buttery or muddy depending on who you speak to, and its more expensive and its not even called salmon but something else, would you buy your chicken under similar circumstances?...and another thing, if you want to be honest when recommending the industry go to land based tanks you will have to recognise that will mean the end of salmon farming in NL and the several hundred jobs associated with it, because the only reason we have salmon farming here now is becuase the industry needs the high quality coastal sites...they need these sites so much that the additional transportation costs can be accepted...move to tanks and they will have no need to stay in NL, and there will be no benefit in paying the high transportation costs to be in NL...a land based salmon industry, if its even ever viable, will not be in NL but some place close to markets with cheap transportation. some people might be fine with that but let us be honest about the loss of jobs that would mean to NL.

    • Boycott ocean farmed salmon
      May 29, 2014 - 16:14

      So to paraphrase your weak argument 'Paul', salmon populations have declined where fish farms don't exist, and if the farms were moved onland, the industry wouldn't be viable in NL. Firstly, in NL, salmon stocks have increased in all zones post moratorium - except the one with fish farms present. Secondly, if we have to sacrifice the environment for jobs and destroy strains of salmon (or any fish) so some private companies can profit, it's simple not worth it. That thinking went out everywhere else in the '50s - well, everywhere but the third world, which industry is treating NL like. No thanks, I'll pass on this disgusting industry. BTW, I've tasted land based farmed salmon. It was chemical and pesticide free, and tasted delicious! I only wish I could buy it locally. Not yet, but soon...

    • paul
      May 30, 2014 - 13:51

      to Boycott..., conne river returns were very high in 2013...its a little more complicated than simply blaming salmon farms...they might or might not play a significant role, and there are OTHER factors that must be considered as well. I'm all for doing real research and taking measures to reduce dangers and negative impacts...and so is the industry for the most part....most accusations I've seen are way overblown with little or no basis... http://www.cbc.ca/player/Radio/Lohttp://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/img/clean/refresh.pngcal+Shows/Newfoundland/Central+Morning/ID/2394332952/?page=18

  • Addie Hollingsworth
    May 29, 2014 - 13:29

    Thank you Bill for that great letter! Both coasts working together to remove the filthy feedlots from our waters! United we stand! With you in spirit!

  • Angela Koch
    May 29, 2014 - 10:35

    I've known for a while now that open pen salmon farming was a filthy industry, but had no idea about this fiasco....thank you for a well written piece Mr Bryden...I hope everyone sees the disturbing trend in these diseased, lice ridden farms, where they get to "fib" and mess up everything they please and where we get to compensate for fish they have lost through their own irresponsibility and incompetence...time to move these monstrosities onto land and out of our waters. Maybe let 60 minutes know about this as they just did an expose on salmon farming, but nothing like this. I wish the salmon farmers could be shamed into doing the right thing but they don't seem to care about anyone but their shareholders when it comes down to it. A truly disgusting industry backed up by a PM who loves them dearly. Angela from BC

    • paul
      May 29, 2014 - 14:54

      since you like to take outrageous claims at face value ( he said it so it must be true) without any evidence...I have some nice swamp land in florida to sell you...

  • Paul
    May 29, 2014 - 10:24

    I would urge anyone actually interested in learning more about the farmed salmon vs wild salmon 'debate' read the following link... http://fairquestions.typepad.com/rethink_campaigns/did-david-suzuki-prevaricate-about-pcbs-in-farmed-salmon.html it discusses some of the junk science used to malign farmed salmon and just who pays for it...the Alaskan wild salmon processors lobby is behind it giving millions of $$ to Canadian "environmentalists' to produce reports that make farmed salmon look bad... just how honest is that?

    • Bill Bryden
      May 29, 2014 - 12:46

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rfxzvlzazz0

    • paul
      May 29, 2014 - 14:52

      Bill, what are your thoughts about the wild salmon sector funding junk science designed to make farmed salmon look bad? you tend to ignore that one...

  • paul
    May 29, 2014 - 10:13

    nice rant Bill, but you exagerate and stretch the truth a bit. By all means let us hold the industry and government to task but let us not make up crap to do it. a) debris and garbage should be cleaned up, but just how bad is it really? b) farmed salmon are tested for pathogens on a routine basis..that is exactly how the ISA virus was detected on the South Coast the other year...the fish showed no symptoms but the presence of the virus was picked up in routine testing. I can't speak for testing of wild salmon, but what would that proove other than the fact that all diseases in farmed salmon originate in the wild. c) this may or may not be a problem...the chainsaw oil is likely vegetable oil, and just how many birds fall victim? numbers are important. If this is a problem it should be addressed. d) morts are removed on a regular basis, and morts are routine...but do you have any evidence that morts are processed for human consumption? I highly doubt that and would call your statement a lie, unless you can back it up. f) I would like some evidence of this , lobsters in the wild eat all sorts of things and will scavenge when needed...ever see what they eat in harbours and around wharves? that said, IF there is such a mess around as you claim, it should be addressed. what you fail to understand about cold water kills is that when you get superchill surface water there will be ice crystalls and when salmon swim up there, their gills are damaged and they die...this may not happen under ice cover ...its all about temperatures and when it does happen you have to stay away from the cages or cause more morts , because your approach is taken by the fish as a signal that its feeding time...and they swim up and die... as for 3 diseases salmon farmers get compensated for, what are they and why? it is my understanding the growers are ONLY ever compensated by tax $$ when they have been ORDERED by CFIA to destroy stocks becuase of an infectious desease that was detected, such as ISA...the money is an incentive to cover part of the loss , to make it more likely that the fish will be removed from the marine environment (ie: reducing threat to other cages and wild fish) and not be marketed for human consumption...one would think these are good ideas...as well, you ignore that CFIA compensates all food production industries in the same manner...poultry, beef, pork... you need to learn more about the industry you constantly malign. I readily accept that there is room to improve but I reject your exaggerations and misinformation.

    • Bill Bryden
      May 29, 2014 - 12:44

      Let me guess paul...your paycheck is tied to salmon farming. Before I call someone a liar...I HAVE PROOF. DO YOU? https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=BD6C045CA68C823E!3449&authkey=!AAfCfOpVXBQr0RQ&ithint=folder%2c.jpg

    • Angela Koch
      May 29, 2014 - 14:09

      Paul... if they simply just moved their filthy diseased, lice infested farms onto the land, none of this would happen. It's a disgusting industry that has no business being in the waters. As far as other farmers being compensated, the salmon farming industry takes in more of that money than all the other pork, cattle, poultry farmers combined, so what incentive is there for filthy diseased salmon farming ever to be cleaned up? And blaming wild fish for all fish farm diseases is rich...we have imported Norwegian strain viruses here in BC and we know the Chilean salmon farming ISA disaster can be traced back to a single hatchery in Norway....Salmon farms are unnatural and by shear crowding of fish, they amplify diseases, whereas in the wild, a predator would look after a weak diseased fish. Now for the first time ever, ISA infected fish are being grown for human consumption!....If I were a spokesperson for your industry I would be so ashamed of that....spreading disease to wild fish while they continue growing them in the waters and providing a diseased and inferior product onto an unsuspecting public, while telling everyone how great they are ppffttt!. Open pen salmon farming is unsustainable and a truly filthy industry. We can do better than this...put them on land!

    • paul
      May 29, 2014 - 14:50

      Bill, would you like to actually discuss the issues or just direct me to your collection of pics that mean nothing because they have no context except your narration.... what have I posted that is incorrect or misleading? I have no connection to the salmon farming industry athough I used to, until you produce evidence that salmon morts, as in dead and rotting salmon as you suggest, are processed for human consumption, I will call you a liar. If you produce reasonable evidence I will join you in your outrage and apologise to you.

    • Paul
      May 29, 2014 - 16:57

      Angela, all pathogens that are found in farmed salmon do originate in wild fish. I do not know about hte incidents you speak of , norway infecting Chile, but even if true that is the exception not the rule. Most farmed salmon produced do not even get antibiotic treatments and so what when they do, they go through withdrawal long before they go to market and no antibiotic ridden salmon goes into the human markets. I don't think its a good idea to sell ISA infected fish simply because people like you can take a hold of it and use it to beat the industry...but ISA does not transfer to humans like swine flu etc does. and you miss my point about why CFIA compensates fish farmers when ordered to destroy stocks...its to protect the environment and the food chain...to me that seems like a good way to spend my tax $$, the actual amount of which comes out of my pocket, I wouldn't even stop to pick up off the ground.

    • Bill Bryden
      May 29, 2014 - 20:48

      "Paul", aka "Let's Ignore the Facts" from youtube and if my guess is right - ex-lobsterman now turned fish farmer...lol. Let me address your list. a) debris and garbage is very very bad sending more than a half a dozen people in as many incident to the hospital some with life threatening injuries and one girl died - bad enough? This says nothing of the many crippled boats. Why don't you ask the people living here with the garbage - like I did? There are in excess of six bird rings adrift right now b) the lack of testing can be verified with DFA and DFObut you'd have to know what to looks for - btw simply looking at a fish to my mind is not a "test" nor when I studied fish parasitology. What exactly is tested for, using what method, and when - do you know? The Cohen Commission showed exactly how bad the DFO lab is and CFIA at covering up. Maybe you should check. The lack of testing wild fish is on purpose as everyone knows, just like the lack of transmission to wild fish investigations. c) oil kills - it doesn't matter what flavour surely you must understand this - and numbers are voluntarily submitted LOL d) morts are infrequently removed as we all know that live here - nor were any removed all winter and spring and when they did they let the fat blow over the side of the boat making the miles long grease slicks worse. Yes morts are routine...VERY HIGH NUMBERS ARE ROUTINE...so high they won't release them under trumped up contentions about business and competition - but look at the numbers put in and what came out. Scary! Gobbling up over 90% of all the federal farm compensation tax dollars speaks volumes doesn't it? Your critical reading needs improvement I did not write " "human consumption" - did I? But you'd LOVE to try and discredit me with just ONE lie - wouldn't you. LOL f) "I would like some evidence of this" then why don't you simply call the local lobster harvesters and buyers like I did? Buying up 1000s of pounds of lobsters to keep people quiet while paying to replace buoys, ropes, etc covered in rancid fat is the name of the cover-up game ;-) Nobody wants lobster that stink and taste like charred diesel from eating rancid fat. Do a little homework ;-)

    • paul
      May 30, 2014 - 07:09

      Angela, your assertion that compensation for losses due to disease means there is no incentive for the industry to clean up...that is a false assertion and this is why. the compensation only covers part of the loss. the company has lots of incentive to avoid disease because, even though its not a total loss (if covered because ordered to destroy, which does not always happen) it is a loss and this industry has a narrow profit margin...how long will any company remain in business if they have no concern over repeated , large scale stock losses...even partial compensation represents a signficant loss. try this analogy to help you understand- how many workers don't care if they get injured on the job, because they will get compensation? not many... as for your mention of lice ridden fish, there is no evidence that sea lice from salmon farms harms wild stocks...if you recall the hype a few years ago about low pink salmon returns in the Broughton , Morton blamed it on the sea lice from salmon farms, when it turns out that the sea lice on the pinks originated in wild local fish , not even salmon , and the pink returns the next year were one of the highest on record, even though the same farms were there...there is no evidence that sea lice from farms destroy wild stocks.

  • Morris
    May 29, 2014 - 07:47

    Bill, thank you for your information. It's truly SHOCKING! IF ONLY, the People's Broadcaster" the CBC,NL, would stop interviewing individual foreign workers, on a weekly basis, who are employed, who have concers about their FUTURE employment ,AND do a little investigative reporting, we might know more about the horrible situation you describe! The waterfront FENCE in St Johns was covered adnasium , tree removal at the Colonial Bldg, and next on their agenda is a roaming fox on Signal Hill!!