- Charles Kennedy
- October 02, 2012 - 20:48
Poor Poor Clifford .My heart bleeds purple piss for you.You are upset because somebody critisized the RC church and its teachings. Are you forgetting about the crimes against humanity committed by the RC church when people were burnt at the stake and other horrible things done to people because they disagreed with the RC church. Wayne has a right to say transubstantiation is rubbish if he thinks it is.We have free speech or have you forgotten.Based on all physics and chemistry laws he is right.As they say if it walks like a duck ,quakes like a duck it is probable a duck.If it looks like bread,tastes like bread,feels like bread,smells like bread,has the chemical compostion of bread,what would makes us think it was human flesh.Like Wayne said it is rubbish ;absolute nonsense.Even the Protesters don't believe in that. So the RC church can tell me I am going to hell if I don't believe their church but I can't make fun at them.They can say evil things like"You will burn forever" and I can't say "Rubbish".Get a grip Cliff.And I have not mentioned about the abuse of young boys. All religions are man made.It has nothing to do with any sacred being.It is all about power and control.Remember all the evil last week committed by those righteous followers of the Mohammer the Profit because some guy happened to make up a movie.Making a movie supposely was more sinfull in their eyes than killing a human being. We have freedom of speech.If you don't like what I say you can disaggree.But don't tell me that I have to respect what you believe.I respect your right to believe it.I respect you as a person.Nobody in this world has the right not to be offended.I am offended many times by the churches.But I don't go around crying."Oh why are they always offending me." Free speech, man free speech!Appreciate it .Enough with the poor mouth. The RC church is one of the richest and most pwerfull political organizations in the world.They don't need you to to defend them. And don't try to tell the Telegram what they can publish.
- October 03, 2012 - 09:08
Now Charlie, the Mormons & Masons have more than a few bucks too, not to forget their political influences.
- Ed Power
- October 02, 2012 - 18:40
Mr. Goodland is either unaware of the recent diatribe by one of his co-religionists, or has chosen to ignore it, which is to be expected - religions have been doing this since men first felt the need to invent them. Telegram readers are routinely subjected to ethical and moral pronouncements from a number of religious - primarily Catholic - writers (I won't name them here, but most people would recognize their names) replete with usual threats of "Divine Judgement" and everlasting torment in "Hell's Eternal Flames" for wide variety of sins. One writer in particular is fond of quoting the writings of the current Pope, the former poster boy of the Hitler Jugend, the Nazi Party's Hitler Youth Corp. Another has a disturbing fascination with gay people. I read all of these letters, chuckle at most, and comment at the more outrageous ones. Mr Norman's "blistering attack on the Roman Catholic Church" was in response to the comments made in one such letter, and since the letter writer had "opened the door" by using religious dogma in his argument, Mr. Norman responded in his eloquent and well-argued reply. I would suggest if Mr. Goodland and his co-religionists don't want their particular beliefs criticized, they should refrain from citing their beliefs as "proof" during discussions in the public forum. The days of clerics dictating to the cowering and ignorant masses has long since passed. As a recovering Catholic- and happy and contented Athiest - I believe that I am qualified to criticize the Catholic Church. I will leave the criticism of Islam, Scientology, Mormonism or worship of other mythical deities to the those who know them better