- May 16, 2011 - 13:49
Does that $8 million dollar indoor soccer facility in Pleasantville actually make any money? did ACOA or some other quasi governemnt agency fund of subsidize that place? Just curious because I can't just can't see a facility like that make any kind of money. But if it does; then great.
- Jordan O'Flynn
- May 16, 2011 - 13:49
Brian, your comment basically shows why soccer in NL is declining. Ignorance. First of all, just because you are a great player, doesn't mean you can coach. I can cite many examples of coaching failures, but maybe a decent example is Roy Keane (whom btw Cobh developed along with Stephen Ireland --he currently plays for Aston Villa). Second, I actually played League of Ireland ball when Cobh got first elected to the league in 1985, and played Irish League (Northern Ireland until '92). The pace of the game is 100x faster than here. You have no time to decide where your next ball goes as soon as you get it because there is a man on you...even though I have seen guys whip a ball faster across a grass pitch than anyone here on astroturf. I knew a guy who played Irish League for a top team and he was ripping up an Alberta Senior League in scoring consistently in his late 30's. That tells you something. No disrespect intended, but I highly doubt any of the current players here would even get a sniff playing 3rd division ball over there. As for the Johnny Breen reference, I have never seen him play, so cant comment there. You seem content with the status quo. Let me ask you something. Are you satisfied with who we have to do well on the national scene? Do you think we are doing good enough? A lot of people do not think so, including myself. I'm just offering an unbiased opinion based on what I have experienced. Why don't I help? It's because of the old boys mentality, particularly displayed by guys like you. NL Turf - I have 0 affiliation to PEI what-so-ever. Heck, I havent even been there. But I'll tell you this. PEI last year: Won Men's nationals, Women's came third, U-18 Boys came 4th, U-18 girls came 7th. Pretty good for a place that has a total population of 140,000...
- NL TURF
- May 15, 2011 - 21:28
Jordan, PEI will always be the sad sack of National soccer, just like NFLD will be always, just ahead of you!! I bet you will never win another National Championship in 25 yrs. Boast, when you can produce soccer players, like the small community of St. Lawrence has produced, over the yrs. Coaching is nothing, dedication is everything!!!
- May 15, 2011 - 08:30
If you want an example of how the NLSA is behind the times, check their web page. The Jubilee Trophy supposedly started last weekend and the Challenge Cup season started on Friday yet there is one item on their page that refers to this season. Everything else is still 2010.
- Jordan O'Flynn
- May 14, 2011 - 13:06
I was going to hold my judgement after seeing Messers Dunphy and Mirkovic speak, and this article demonstrates that while both mean well. They don't know what they are talking about. Particularly the latter. Mirkovic is citing that the key to development is to put in a team in a joke league (known as the CSL...which isnt really Canadian anyway as it is confined to Ontario and Montreal). The quality of the league is awful, it's not much better than the Nova Scotia Senior League. Not only that, there has been rumblings of match fixing going on in the CSL. Don't think you'd want to be involved with a league like that. This place needs better coaches. Seriously. Yes, they go through these qualification courses and crap. But these coaches are in it for themselves and not the players. Mr. Mirkovic uses the "we have a small population" excuse (along with a lot of others). Hello? Didn't Prince Edward Island win nationals last year? Their population is HALF the size of St. John's. PEI used to be the whipping boys of soccer in Canada until a man named Lewis Page came along. UPEI puts out a good team every year, they won Senior Nationals last year, their U-18s have done very well at nationals too. We need coaches like Mr. Page. Ones like him who do not constantly think of excuses as to why we are not doing well...and set out to fix what is wrong. The results are there. All we need to do is change the top and work down. Good luck to NL, I wish I could have played football or even coached....but injuries and a lack of time have consumed it. Jordan O'Flynn Formerly of Cobh Ramblers FC
- May 14, 2011 - 19:29
I feel that there is too much emphasis put on all star teams to compete at the Atlantic and National Levels. I remember watching club matches on the Burin Peninsula and those teams actually played like teams. They were made up of a few great players and alot of good players. Placing too much emphasis on all star teams also limits what talented players living in a lower income bracket can accomplish. There are great players who just can't drive to St. John's for tryout camps. Even if some of the great players could get in for tryouts, most chose not to because the all star teams are largely picked before tryouts.
- Brian O'Grady
- May 15, 2011 - 14:56
I don't know who you are Mr. O'Flynn, but you definitely don't have a clue what you are saying and also your comments about coaches in Newfoundland just speaks of ignorance on your part. I think it is you who don't know what you are talking about. I have watched games in the CSL, and the quality of play is very good with some of the players legitimately good enough to play in the MSL if given a shot and a good work ethic. As far as better coaches, you need to get your head examined either here in Nfld. or go back to Ireland and get one of your doctor buddies to have a look at you for that comment. Gord Dunphy, Dragon Mirkovic, Donald Mackey, and Johnny Breen are excellent coaches with great resumes, Dunphy has coached St. Lawrence to a number of provincial titles and top 3 national placements. Mirkovic was at one time involved with the Yugoslavian national side. Donald Mackey is a former player in the senior and old first division leagues but has really made a name for himself coaching young kids to reach their potential and to further their soccer goals. Johnny Breen is probably one of the best if not the best(maybe his brothers) soccer players Nfld. ever produced and played with the Canadian national program; as a matter of fact I would say along with others if Johnny grew up in Ireland(where is ancestors are from) he probably would have not only played with the Irish national team but also would have played professionally. Johhny has also coached provincial teams at the age group level and you damn well know that they are prepared to the best of their ability. We don't need your good luck and if you were so passionate about Nfld. soccer you would make the time to help in some capacity instead of sitting on the sidelines taking shots. Brian O'Grady