Sources say conditional deal in place to bring Titan here

Robin Short & Brendan McCarthy
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SJSE chairman talking cautiously, but insiders say Acadie-Bathurst owners are prepared to relocate franchise to St. John's

Two sources within the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League say a conditional agreement has been reached that would see the Acadie-Bathurst Titan move to St. John's.

On Monday night, Gerry Smith, chairman of St. John's Sports and Entertainment spoke cautiously, only saying SJSE and the Titan are continuing to talk about the possibility of having the Titan play out of Mile One Centre next season.

Two sources within the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League say a conditional agreement has been reached that would see the Acadie-Bathurst Titan move to St. John's.

On Monday night, Gerry Smith, chairman of St. John's Sports and Entertainment spoke cautiously, only saying SJSE and the Titan are continuing to talk about the possibility of having the Titan play out of Mile One Centre next season.

"It's an exchange of information." said Smith. "Right now, (the Titan ownership) is evaluating the information we've provided, but we continue to have a dialogue."

However, the league sources say the two sides are actually very close to clewing up a deal that would see the Titan come here.

That deal, the QMJHL insiders say, would see a relocation of the franchise - SJSE would not be the owner. It also does not involve a local group, headed by John Fisher, which wanted to purchase the Titan and bring them to St. John's. Fisher and Co., said they had an arrangement to purchase the Titan for $4 million, but they failed to reach a deal on financial guarantees with SJSE, which operates Mile One on behalf of the City of St. John's.

On Monday, the QMJHL said it had agreed to a request from Titan owner Leo-Guy Morrissette for a seven-day extension of a deadline to announce any relocation plans he might have for the 2008-09 season. It was the second extension allowed by the league, which had already added 30 days to the original Jan. 31 deadline date.

Monday also saw Morrissette travel to St. John's for face-to-face talks with SJSE officials. Morrissette has since returned to Bathurst, but Smith says discussions continued by phone on Tuesday, primarily between SJSE general manager Bill Thistle and Earl Dimitroff, Acadie-Bathurst's director of corporate sales.

The Titan who have been owned by Morrissette for 25 years, have struggled with attendance this season, drawing an average of less than 1,800 fans per game at the 3,162-seat K.C. Irving Regional Centre in Bathurst, N.B. That represents a nearly 20 per cent drop from 2007-08, and has prompted Morrissette to explore sale options. There's been talk of the team moving to Sherbrooke or Sorel, Que., but the only confirmed interest, outside of St. John's, has been from a group of Bathurst businessmen.

Bathurst group valued team at $2.4 M

Darryl Stothart, who owns a car dealership in the northern New Brunswick city, told the Saint John Telegraph Journal that preliminary work done by the business group assessed the value of the Titan at around $2.4 million, based on current attendance figures, but that Morrissette had said that he wouldn't go any lower than $3.5 for a local group.

"They made a good offer, which was greatly appreciated, but we couldn't accept it," Morrissette told the Telegraph-Journal.

If the franchise does relocate here, it will be the second transfer under Morrissette's ownership - in 1998, he moved the Titan from Laval, Que,, to Bathurst, where they became the primary tenant of the Irving Centre, built two years earlier.

It would also mark the second time for the QMJHL in St. John's.

The Fog Devils - owned by St. John's businessman Derm Dobbin - played out of 6,250-seat Mile One for three years before being sold to Montreal interests for just over $3 million and moved to Verdun, Que., in 2008.

The Titan have a 20-31-13 record this season.

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Organizations: Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, Fisher and Co., K.C. Irving Regional Centre Saint John Telegraph Journal Telegraph-Journal Irving Centre

Geographic location: St. John's, Bathurst, Sherbrooke Sorel New Brunswick Laval, Que Montreal Verdun

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  • Doug
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    As bad as the arrangement with Fisher's group was, it would have been better than this. Now we'll be stuck with a guy who failed in two previous markets and a team that people will not support because of its mainland owner.

    This whole thing is too rushed simply because a few people want a team (any team) playing at Mile One next season. We'd be much better off if the city and SJSE would back off and take their time before hanging another major financial albatross on us.

  • Lets Go Oilers!
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Steve from Clarenville, when you can tell me what exactly a Fog Devil, then we'll talk the pros and cons of the Newfoundland Republic.

    WTF is a Fog Devil? Seriously!

  • Rob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    I too would prefer a local owner, but if the circumstances don't exist for that to happen, open another door when you can! Fingers and toes are crossed! Get er done!

  • Rob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Not Going to Pay More
    I guess this guy is joking or totally out to lunch. A realistic price should be between $10-15.

    The city has to have a stake in this. With the Fog Devils, the city did everything they could to sink this team. We need the city on board. A small subsidy but more important, their support.

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Here's what will give it a chance to work:

    1) 10.00 ticket, tops.
    2) Call the team the Caps and dress them in red and white - those recalling the glory days of Senior Hockey will take their kids and grandkids.
    3) The absence of hockey in general and the distance in time from the AHL product will help create an initial appetite for the new Q team.
    4) No more soap opera coming out of SJSE...the constant bad press from the fueding with the Dobbins created a poisoned atmosphere surrounding Mile One.

  • Jack
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    This is GOOD news but not GREAT news yet until we see what is involved. A few of points, 1) NO SUBSIDY from SJSE, 2) Dont call the team the Caps, 90% of the target demographic probably dont know who the Caps were. We need a new name that younger people can identify withbut no prehistoric creatures please. 3) $10 tickets for the first year, dont be fooled into thinking this market wants to pay $15 for Jr. hockey until it is convinced of the value. Heck, why not make the first ten games free!! Okay, thats hoping for a bit too much. 4) Parking parking and more parking. Please give it SOME thought. And finally 5) as many local players as possible, we will support our own with passion.

  • Tony
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    'Not Going To Pay More', are you seriously kidding me? If you're serious then I'm glad I won't be seeing you at the rink this fall. Get it done! Go Caps Go!

  • Firelake-Joe
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Not to throw cold water on the story - but it's been said here before, and I agree, St. John's is not a hockey town. In fact I would argue that it's not a sports town in general.

    Look at what has to be the most entertaining and competitive sports team in the city right now - MUN Seahawks (Ladies of course). This team over the past few years has consistently ranked among the top University teams in the country. They are represented for the most part by local talent (Unlike the AHL or Q), they represent a brand that is highly recognized in the community (MUN), the ticket prices are roughly half that of hockey at Mile One, concessions are reasonably priced, location is central and accessible, and I could go on.... So how do local sports fans show their support ?? They stay away in droves.

    I wish those folks longing for a St. John's based hockey team well, I just don't believe there are enough of you out there.

  • Justin
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Excellent news!

    Get this deal done SJSE. You're finally starting to realise that Mile One is a Hockey RINK.

    If the deal is indeed met, Lets cross our fingers that the B.O.G. vote in favour of the relocation!

    Go--Caps--Go

  • Doug
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    People around here must not think much of the Dobbins and their business acumen. Here's a very simple question that no one seems willing to answer. If the Fog Devils were such a bust, what makes anyone think a team being run by a guy who already couldn't make it elsewhere (TWICE), will do any better?

    All I hear about the Fog Devil's problems is that they had poor marketing. Okay, great. So let's hear some feasible suggestions for good marketing. As far as I remember they had ads on the radio every half hour and all over other media as well as numerous promotions.

    Come on folks, seriously, what is it that will make this team so much more successful than the last one?

  • Robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Doug...You're now going to complain about a mainland owner? You are a piece of work my friend, you wouldn't support the local, and now you're moaning because a mainlander has come in. I have one thing to say to you and others who are getting the whine button revved up...SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!! Do all us hockey fans a favor and please stay home from the games, and then do the readers of this paper a favor and stop posting. You don't like hockey, we get it. The Telegram has a section called arts and entertainment, that may be a better place for you to post. Gordon from NB, you start your post whining that we're going to get a team at your expense, then finish with saying Bathurst is better off without the Titan. Maybe you and Doug could team up and form a complainer's forum.

    A Hockey team dressed in pink white and green? You're joking right? As if there aren't enogh Newfie jokes floating around out there. Call them the St. John's Caps, dress em in red and white, and then hire extra security to stop the fist fights between fans trying to get tickets.

    5.00 for an adult hockey ticket?!?!?!?!? Man, don't ever go into business. That's about all the comment I an muster for something so idiotic.

    I hope we've all learned something from the Foggies demise. Stick it out, junior teams work in 5 year cycles. Ask anyone who has a remote clue of junior, that's what they'll tell you. Last year the Moncton Wildcats finished in the bottom of the league. Missed the playoffs completely, and two years before were playing for the Memorial Cup.

    For those of you who aren't hockey fans, but have an open mind. Try this. Take the money you would spend on Neil Young tickets (apparently is ok to spend your EI or Welfare cheque on THIS) and purchase 5 hockey tickets (assuming they will be selling for 15 bucks each) and spread the games out over a month or so. Get to know the players, watch em win a few as well as lose a few. If, at the end of those 5 games, you still don't want to go watch, you are not a hockey fan, and you will always have my respect because at least you tried. SO many people I talked to stated The Fog Devils SUCK!! . When asked how many games they attended, they usually answered two but the more common answer was one, and they lost, so they suck! Give these guys a chance. I'll bet they'll win you over.

    A couple of people on this forum have posted that we are crazy getting into bed with a guy who couldn't make this team work twice. For you people, I say this. THe team was relocated to Bathurst in 1998, that's 11 seasons ago!!!

  • Bob
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    WOO HOO!!!!

    Hope it all goes through, can't wait to go to the games.

    I just hope that people go out to games in full force and embrace this opportunity. Don't start whining about mainland owner and parking and highschool hockey. Be thankful we got another chance to show that St. John's and Newfoundland is like many other great Canadian cities and support your local CHL hockey team!

  • Keith
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Talk about stabbing Fisher in the back!

    Either way, FANTASTIC news!! I believe we all know if this was to work properly, SJSE would have to be involved somehow. Glad to see they are comming to terms with this.

    Very much looking forward to taking in some hockey in September.

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    As obvious as it is to laugh about what a ridiculously poor idea this is from the standpoint of been there, done that, lost our shirts .

    It inadvertently gives us a glimpse into how expensive it is to own a badly located stadium with no tenants.

    Great example of darned if you do, darned if you do again.

  • Stephen
    July 02, 2010 - 13:28

    Do not fool this up.
    St. John's Titans got a nice ring to it, the Viking helmet logo is the perfect logo for representing the province as a whole

  • cole
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    yay we got hockey back hopefully

  • Huh?
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    $5.00 for adults? Is there an event of any sort, anywhere that an adult can attend for $5? Offers little value? What value is there then from an NHL game? A night at the symphony?

    I wish nothing but the best to those involved in this enerprise and hope they can tender an excellent product for the people of St. John's. I hope even more so that the good people of St. John's show how supportive they are and get behind any team that we might land.

  • Hockey
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    Call centers all over the city are hiring, Not going to pay more. Anyone who applies there will be working within days. I hope this is true and and I cannot wait to get my 2 seats I always had at Mile one...cannot wait to imprint my backside in my seat again!

  • Lets Go Oilers!
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Do not fast track this deal.

    We have a businessman who has failed twice already - do we really want St. John's to be another notch in his bedpost of failures??

    To SJSE - get a deal that will work well for the city, Mile One, SJSE, the team and the fans.

    To the fans:

    - Get behind this team and buy tickets!
    - Stop bitching about parking and associated costs and use the cheaper, easier, less stressful park and ride service - it works.

    To the owner:

    - The St. John's Titan? I don't think so. And certainly not Fog Devils, lets choose a name people can associate with:

    - Caps
    - Legends
    - Republic (assuming the team is called Newfoundland)
    - Vikings
    - Beothuks

    A name that associates this team with St. John's and the province will create excitement and a connection with the hockey fans of this province.

    Nuff Said

  • Wince
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    http://fighting-newfoundlander.blogspot.com/2009/03/random-thoughts.html

  • Earl
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    To Let's Go Oilers

    You wanted to know what a Fog Devil was. I found this description:

    A Fog Devil is a being that appear as ghostly billowing concentrations of vapour formed into vaguely Human shapes. They can potentially be found in any forest, but are thankfully rare, only appearing when the thickest fogs are in the air. For the rest of the time they hibernate.


    Back on topic, I'd like to say that if LGM remains owner of a team relocated to Mile One, I'll be of two minds. His history doesn't really bode well for the longevity of a local team. That said, however, I'll support the Q if it should return.

  • QMJHL FAN
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Being a fan of the QMJHL myself, I can assure the St. John's faithful that the Acadie-Bathurst Titan have a great foundation of young youthful talent in development.

    There's a fine base and core there with young teen's being groomed for some great seasons.

    It will be a fun time for St. John's hockey fans if Les Titan land in St. John's. It won't be long before this team is well groomed and fine tuned with what they have going right now.

    Congratulations, and hope to see St. John's back in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, as I would love to par-take in a road-trip to The Rock to watch some hockey.

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Hey Not Going To Pay More, Trouble with money? Get a trade and head to alberta besides sitting with your hand out for the the gov to give you money.

    Sounds like this is close to becomming a reality, looks good for St.John's to be back on the hockey map. Lets go boys!!!!!!

  • Don
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Hope it gets done.Come on hockey fans out there support your MAJOR JR. team this time-this is good as you will get.Use the park and ride more -the ticket prices hopefully will be reasonable.Major jr hockey is excellent product -we should be proud of our team .

  • J
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    I think the young fanbase will absolutely relate with a Caps nickname. First off, anybody who played for St. John's Minor Hockey played as a Cap. Even the old Avalon association was called the Capitals. It's certainly much better than Anglacizing Titan .

  • Janet
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Okay all you hockey fans and that includes Robin Short who have been complainingg about not having hockey at Mile One, time to get off your lazy butts and put your money where you whiney mouthes are by supporting your new team. If not, please shut up in the future!

  • Denise
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Not Going To Pay More do you and the other complainers around here realize that this hockey team is going to actually employ people? The Leafs had a front office staff of 20-30 people when that team was here who didn't work with the Fog Devils (big mistake).

    I for one can't wait to go back to Mile One for hockey. Bring it on!

  • j
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    i hope the city does get it done...it would be nice to have hockey on the cement pond again. as for the name...i know the history of the name CAPS...but i would rather a differnt name for this team. TITANS...not bad...LEGENDS, maybe or SEALS...SENTINELS...OR BLIZZARD...anyway, hope it works out!

  • robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    i dont think hockey will last in st johns!! st johns is not a hockey city!the only reason the herder sells out each year at mile one is because people outside the overpass come to town for a day or two to see it.having said that if a team went to corner brook (which has the pepsi center)or elsewhere if they had a big enought arena it would last a long time.

  • Steve
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    How great would a team with Pink White and Green colors called the Republic of Newfoundland be! What a way to capture the downtown hippie demographic.

  • Jessica
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    I'll have to see it to believe it. I would absolutely LOVE to have hockey here again because I used to enjoy a night out with friends taking in a game. I used to try to get there as often as possible!!
    I hope it works out but I don't want to build my hopes up too much in case something messes up for hockey here again..

  • hockeykid19
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOCKEY AGAIN!!!!!!!

  • Paula
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    JACK.

    I have 2 disagree with just 2 of your points. 1 being the name. I've read a few responses in other articles of people saying the name caps, I think thats a wonderful idea. And really think people will relate too it. Isn't the bar at Mile One named Caps bar ?

    and 2, from what i saw having too many sub-par locals on the team last year hurt the clubs on ice performance. I could hope the franchise and staff would go with the best possible players from where-ever they may come from. People support winners, bandwagoners join in then. No matter how many locals are on the team, nobody will support a losing team.

    No better marketing then a team that Wins!

    Outstanding, freshness from all the news coverage and paper overage we had the past couple days.

    one-excited-hockey mom

  • Not Going
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Hope tickets for this will follow the rule.

    $2.50 Children
    $4.50 Students and Seniors
    $5.00 Adults

    No one can afford anymore these days for something that offers little value. Did you all forget to look and see that NL is over 14% in the UNEMPLOYED catagory and growing everyday?

    People should be worried about paying bills and putting food on the table rather then wasting that EI or Welfare Cheque on this. You should need to show a pay stub to buy a ticket as well. Not public funding.

  • donald
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    As soon as i read this story my heart skipped a beat.Could this be coming true?Have St.john's finally put down their baby blanket and growed up.For all hockey fans i hope so,but i will have to see this to believe this.personally i think st.john's should contact mlse and see how this promoted the baby leafs because not to call the dobbins or the city down but you need to show people out their that hockey is here and show them why they should come because promotion was the big thing that made the leafs big here and if it was not for toronto moving out we would still have the ahl here.

  • amazed
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Not Going To Pay More ;

    So, by your logic maybe we should close the theatres, it is $10 to see a movie. Let's close the expensive restaurants, who can afford that?
    People who can afford it and like hockey will pay to watch. Those who don't like hockey won't go. Those who don't have much money and are dumb enough to waste it on hockey, well, smarten up. Usew your money on a family, as you should. But those of us who would like to watch a hockey game at Mile One, ( if done properly) would like to do that too.

  • Gordon
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    It would be nice to see Sant Johns to get a QMJH team but is it at our expense? The attendance at the KC were great for the first few years until Leo Guy started fighting with fans. there is bad history with what drove fans away from games and one was no credit card use to purchase season tickets. The Titan organization wanted cash up front and didn't want to pay credit card fees. Problem number 1! Next came the problem with a local travel Company who supported the Titans with bus tours to away games. Leo Gy get in a big fight there. Then came the no Tim Horton Coffee to be brought into the KC Center during games. He shut it down in a poor fashion. This drove fans away. Anyway i could go on and on but why should I. the City of Bathurst will be better off without Leo Guy but we will miss the Titan players. Good luck Saint Johns NFLD.

  • Doug
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    The people on council who are involved with this (and/or SJSE) should check in with the city of Bathurst to see what some of the problems are with the team. As Mr. Pitre suggests, perhaps not all of the problems were due to the economic down turn. The Titans owner seems like he'd be a great businessman -for the 1970s.

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    There are constantly a handful of teams that comprise a traveling gong show.....they extract as much from their local hosts as they can, and then move on to suck the blood form the next town.

    The only thing that keeps it all going is the existence of the next hapless city host.

    Good luck with that.

  • Not Going
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Looks like John Moore has not been keeping up with the Alberta layoffs. People with trades and your former friends are out of work and sitting back here now with nothing after paying taxes for years to support you sitting here.

    Now you try to tell them to pay even more?

    Where is Dannys 800 Million Dollar injection? Have not seen anyone obtain employment to pay the ticket prices to keep the minority happy with a blood sport in St. Johns.

    Since you seem to have all the answers, please provide the names and numbers of those that are offering positions today for those that would rather work to feed families then spend money on a foolish game that has little to no value in the overall economy.

    Thought so, you have none to offer yet you talk a big game like so many others.

    Hockey has no place in recovery. If you want it so bad, get on the plane and pay the million dollar wages of the NHL players. Stop wasting time and money we do not have here on silly games for children.

  • Colin
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    This is deadly get it finished up!!!Doug do u not understand that after this season there will be no Q teams relocating in the near future and the AHL will never be back and LGM remaining owner means SJSE is not putting in such a major amount of cash

  • Doug
    July 01, 2010 - 20:25

    As bad as the arrangement with Fisher's group was, it would have been better than this. Now we'll be stuck with a guy who failed in two previous markets and a team that people will not support because of its mainland owner.

    This whole thing is too rushed simply because a few people want a team (any team) playing at Mile One next season. We'd be much better off if the city and SJSE would back off and take their time before hanging another major financial albatross on us.

  • Lets Go Oilers!
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    Steve from Clarenville, when you can tell me what exactly a Fog Devil, then we'll talk the pros and cons of the Newfoundland Republic.

    WTF is a Fog Devil? Seriously!

  • Rob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    I too would prefer a local owner, but if the circumstances don't exist for that to happen, open another door when you can! Fingers and toes are crossed! Get er done!

  • Rob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    Not Going to Pay More
    I guess this guy is joking or totally out to lunch. A realistic price should be between $10-15.

    The city has to have a stake in this. With the Fog Devils, the city did everything they could to sink this team. We need the city on board. A small subsidy but more important, their support.

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Here's what will give it a chance to work:

    1) 10.00 ticket, tops.
    2) Call the team the Caps and dress them in red and white - those recalling the glory days of Senior Hockey will take their kids and grandkids.
    3) The absence of hockey in general and the distance in time from the AHL product will help create an initial appetite for the new Q team.
    4) No more soap opera coming out of SJSE...the constant bad press from the fueding with the Dobbins created a poisoned atmosphere surrounding Mile One.

  • Jack
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    This is GOOD news but not GREAT news yet until we see what is involved. A few of points, 1) NO SUBSIDY from SJSE, 2) Dont call the team the Caps, 90% of the target demographic probably dont know who the Caps were. We need a new name that younger people can identify withbut no prehistoric creatures please. 3) $10 tickets for the first year, dont be fooled into thinking this market wants to pay $15 for Jr. hockey until it is convinced of the value. Heck, why not make the first ten games free!! Okay, thats hoping for a bit too much. 4) Parking parking and more parking. Please give it SOME thought. And finally 5) as many local players as possible, we will support our own with passion.

  • Tony
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    'Not Going To Pay More', are you seriously kidding me? If you're serious then I'm glad I won't be seeing you at the rink this fall. Get it done! Go Caps Go!

  • Firelake-Joe
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Not to throw cold water on the story - but it's been said here before, and I agree, St. John's is not a hockey town. In fact I would argue that it's not a sports town in general.

    Look at what has to be the most entertaining and competitive sports team in the city right now - MUN Seahawks (Ladies of course). This team over the past few years has consistently ranked among the top University teams in the country. They are represented for the most part by local talent (Unlike the AHL or Q), they represent a brand that is highly recognized in the community (MUN), the ticket prices are roughly half that of hockey at Mile One, concessions are reasonably priced, location is central and accessible, and I could go on.... So how do local sports fans show their support ?? They stay away in droves.

    I wish those folks longing for a St. John's based hockey team well, I just don't believe there are enough of you out there.

  • Justin
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    Excellent news!

    Get this deal done SJSE. You're finally starting to realise that Mile One is a Hockey RINK.

    If the deal is indeed met, Lets cross our fingers that the B.O.G. vote in favour of the relocation!

    Go--Caps--Go

  • Doug
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    People around here must not think much of the Dobbins and their business acumen. Here's a very simple question that no one seems willing to answer. If the Fog Devils were such a bust, what makes anyone think a team being run by a guy who already couldn't make it elsewhere (TWICE), will do any better?

    All I hear about the Fog Devil's problems is that they had poor marketing. Okay, great. So let's hear some feasible suggestions for good marketing. As far as I remember they had ads on the radio every half hour and all over other media as well as numerous promotions.

    Come on folks, seriously, what is it that will make this team so much more successful than the last one?

  • Robert
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    Doug...You're now going to complain about a mainland owner? You are a piece of work my friend, you wouldn't support the local, and now you're moaning because a mainlander has come in. I have one thing to say to you and others who are getting the whine button revved up...SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!! Do all us hockey fans a favor and please stay home from the games, and then do the readers of this paper a favor and stop posting. You don't like hockey, we get it. The Telegram has a section called arts and entertainment, that may be a better place for you to post. Gordon from NB, you start your post whining that we're going to get a team at your expense, then finish with saying Bathurst is better off without the Titan. Maybe you and Doug could team up and form a complainer's forum.

    A Hockey team dressed in pink white and green? You're joking right? As if there aren't enogh Newfie jokes floating around out there. Call them the St. John's Caps, dress em in red and white, and then hire extra security to stop the fist fights between fans trying to get tickets.

    5.00 for an adult hockey ticket?!?!?!?!? Man, don't ever go into business. That's about all the comment I an muster for something so idiotic.

    I hope we've all learned something from the Foggies demise. Stick it out, junior teams work in 5 year cycles. Ask anyone who has a remote clue of junior, that's what they'll tell you. Last year the Moncton Wildcats finished in the bottom of the league. Missed the playoffs completely, and two years before were playing for the Memorial Cup.

    For those of you who aren't hockey fans, but have an open mind. Try this. Take the money you would spend on Neil Young tickets (apparently is ok to spend your EI or Welfare cheque on THIS) and purchase 5 hockey tickets (assuming they will be selling for 15 bucks each) and spread the games out over a month or so. Get to know the players, watch em win a few as well as lose a few. If, at the end of those 5 games, you still don't want to go watch, you are not a hockey fan, and you will always have my respect because at least you tried. SO many people I talked to stated The Fog Devils SUCK!! . When asked how many games they attended, they usually answered two but the more common answer was one, and they lost, so they suck! Give these guys a chance. I'll bet they'll win you over.

    A couple of people on this forum have posted that we are crazy getting into bed with a guy who couldn't make this team work twice. For you people, I say this. THe team was relocated to Bathurst in 1998, that's 11 seasons ago!!!

  • Bob
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    WOO HOO!!!!

    Hope it all goes through, can't wait to go to the games.

    I just hope that people go out to games in full force and embrace this opportunity. Don't start whining about mainland owner and parking and highschool hockey. Be thankful we got another chance to show that St. John's and Newfoundland is like many other great Canadian cities and support your local CHL hockey team!

  • Keith
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Talk about stabbing Fisher in the back!

    Either way, FANTASTIC news!! I believe we all know if this was to work properly, SJSE would have to be involved somehow. Glad to see they are comming to terms with this.

    Very much looking forward to taking in some hockey in September.

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    As obvious as it is to laugh about what a ridiculously poor idea this is from the standpoint of been there, done that, lost our shirts .

    It inadvertently gives us a glimpse into how expensive it is to own a badly located stadium with no tenants.

    Great example of darned if you do, darned if you do again.

  • Stephen
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    Do not fool this up.
    St. John's Titans got a nice ring to it, the Viking helmet logo is the perfect logo for representing the province as a whole

  • cole
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    yay we got hockey back hopefully

  • Huh?
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    $5.00 for adults? Is there an event of any sort, anywhere that an adult can attend for $5? Offers little value? What value is there then from an NHL game? A night at the symphony?

    I wish nothing but the best to those involved in this enerprise and hope they can tender an excellent product for the people of St. John's. I hope even more so that the good people of St. John's show how supportive they are and get behind any team that we might land.

  • Hockey
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    Call centers all over the city are hiring, Not going to pay more. Anyone who applies there will be working within days. I hope this is true and and I cannot wait to get my 2 seats I always had at Mile one...cannot wait to imprint my backside in my seat again!

  • Lets Go Oilers!
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    Do not fast track this deal.

    We have a businessman who has failed twice already - do we really want St. John's to be another notch in his bedpost of failures??

    To SJSE - get a deal that will work well for the city, Mile One, SJSE, the team and the fans.

    To the fans:

    - Get behind this team and buy tickets!
    - Stop bitching about parking and associated costs and use the cheaper, easier, less stressful park and ride service - it works.

    To the owner:

    - The St. John's Titan? I don't think so. And certainly not Fog Devils, lets choose a name people can associate with:

    - Caps
    - Legends
    - Republic (assuming the team is called Newfoundland)
    - Vikings
    - Beothuks

    A name that associates this team with St. John's and the province will create excitement and a connection with the hockey fans of this province.

    Nuff Said

  • Wince
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    http://fighting-newfoundlander.blogspot.com/2009/03/random-thoughts.html

  • Earl
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    To Let's Go Oilers

    You wanted to know what a Fog Devil was. I found this description:

    A Fog Devil is a being that appear as ghostly billowing concentrations of vapour formed into vaguely Human shapes. They can potentially be found in any forest, but are thankfully rare, only appearing when the thickest fogs are in the air. For the rest of the time they hibernate.


    Back on topic, I'd like to say that if LGM remains owner of a team relocated to Mile One, I'll be of two minds. His history doesn't really bode well for the longevity of a local team. That said, however, I'll support the Q if it should return.

  • QMJHL FAN
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    Being a fan of the QMJHL myself, I can assure the St. John's faithful that the Acadie-Bathurst Titan have a great foundation of young youthful talent in development.

    There's a fine base and core there with young teen's being groomed for some great seasons.

    It will be a fun time for St. John's hockey fans if Les Titan land in St. John's. It won't be long before this team is well groomed and fine tuned with what they have going right now.

    Congratulations, and hope to see St. John's back in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, as I would love to par-take in a road-trip to The Rock to watch some hockey.

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Hey Not Going To Pay More, Trouble with money? Get a trade and head to alberta besides sitting with your hand out for the the gov to give you money.

    Sounds like this is close to becomming a reality, looks good for St.John's to be back on the hockey map. Lets go boys!!!!!!

  • Don
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Hope it gets done.Come on hockey fans out there support your MAJOR JR. team this time-this is good as you will get.Use the park and ride more -the ticket prices hopefully will be reasonable.Major jr hockey is excellent product -we should be proud of our team .

  • J
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    I think the young fanbase will absolutely relate with a Caps nickname. First off, anybody who played for St. John's Minor Hockey played as a Cap. Even the old Avalon association was called the Capitals. It's certainly much better than Anglacizing Titan .

  • Janet
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    Okay all you hockey fans and that includes Robin Short who have been complainingg about not having hockey at Mile One, time to get off your lazy butts and put your money where you whiney mouthes are by supporting your new team. If not, please shut up in the future!

  • Denise
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    Not Going To Pay More do you and the other complainers around here realize that this hockey team is going to actually employ people? The Leafs had a front office staff of 20-30 people when that team was here who didn't work with the Fog Devils (big mistake).

    I for one can't wait to go back to Mile One for hockey. Bring it on!

  • j
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    i hope the city does get it done...it would be nice to have hockey on the cement pond again. as for the name...i know the history of the name CAPS...but i would rather a differnt name for this team. TITANS...not bad...LEGENDS, maybe or SEALS...SENTINELS...OR BLIZZARD...anyway, hope it works out!

  • robert
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    i dont think hockey will last in st johns!! st johns is not a hockey city!the only reason the herder sells out each year at mile one is because people outside the overpass come to town for a day or two to see it.having said that if a team went to corner brook (which has the pepsi center)or elsewhere if they had a big enought arena it would last a long time.

  • Steve
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    How great would a team with Pink White and Green colors called the Republic of Newfoundland be! What a way to capture the downtown hippie demographic.

  • Jessica
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    I'll have to see it to believe it. I would absolutely LOVE to have hockey here again because I used to enjoy a night out with friends taking in a game. I used to try to get there as often as possible!!
    I hope it works out but I don't want to build my hopes up too much in case something messes up for hockey here again..

  • hockeykid19
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOCKEY AGAIN!!!!!!!

  • Paula
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    JACK.

    I have 2 disagree with just 2 of your points. 1 being the name. I've read a few responses in other articles of people saying the name caps, I think thats a wonderful idea. And really think people will relate too it. Isn't the bar at Mile One named Caps bar ?

    and 2, from what i saw having too many sub-par locals on the team last year hurt the clubs on ice performance. I could hope the franchise and staff would go with the best possible players from where-ever they may come from. People support winners, bandwagoners join in then. No matter how many locals are on the team, nobody will support a losing team.

    No better marketing then a team that Wins!

    Outstanding, freshness from all the news coverage and paper overage we had the past couple days.

    one-excited-hockey mom

  • Not Going
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    Hope tickets for this will follow the rule.

    $2.50 Children
    $4.50 Students and Seniors
    $5.00 Adults

    No one can afford anymore these days for something that offers little value. Did you all forget to look and see that NL is over 14% in the UNEMPLOYED catagory and growing everyday?

    People should be worried about paying bills and putting food on the table rather then wasting that EI or Welfare Cheque on this. You should need to show a pay stub to buy a ticket as well. Not public funding.

  • donald
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    As soon as i read this story my heart skipped a beat.Could this be coming true?Have St.john's finally put down their baby blanket and growed up.For all hockey fans i hope so,but i will have to see this to believe this.personally i think st.john's should contact mlse and see how this promoted the baby leafs because not to call the dobbins or the city down but you need to show people out their that hockey is here and show them why they should come because promotion was the big thing that made the leafs big here and if it was not for toronto moving out we would still have the ahl here.

  • amazed
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    Not Going To Pay More ;

    So, by your logic maybe we should close the theatres, it is $10 to see a movie. Let's close the expensive restaurants, who can afford that?
    People who can afford it and like hockey will pay to watch. Those who don't like hockey won't go. Those who don't have much money and are dumb enough to waste it on hockey, well, smarten up. Usew your money on a family, as you should. But those of us who would like to watch a hockey game at Mile One, ( if done properly) would like to do that too.

  • Gordon
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    It would be nice to see Sant Johns to get a QMJH team but is it at our expense? The attendance at the KC were great for the first few years until Leo Guy started fighting with fans. there is bad history with what drove fans away from games and one was no credit card use to purchase season tickets. The Titan organization wanted cash up front and didn't want to pay credit card fees. Problem number 1! Next came the problem with a local travel Company who supported the Titans with bus tours to away games. Leo Gy get in a big fight there. Then came the no Tim Horton Coffee to be brought into the KC Center during games. He shut it down in a poor fashion. This drove fans away. Anyway i could go on and on but why should I. the City of Bathurst will be better off without Leo Guy but we will miss the Titan players. Good luck Saint Johns NFLD.

  • Doug
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    The people on council who are involved with this (and/or SJSE) should check in with the city of Bathurst to see what some of the problems are with the team. As Mr. Pitre suggests, perhaps not all of the problems were due to the economic down turn. The Titans owner seems like he'd be a great businessman -for the 1970s.

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    There are constantly a handful of teams that comprise a traveling gong show.....they extract as much from their local hosts as they can, and then move on to suck the blood form the next town.

    The only thing that keeps it all going is the existence of the next hapless city host.

    Good luck with that.

  • Not Going
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    Looks like John Moore has not been keeping up with the Alberta layoffs. People with trades and your former friends are out of work and sitting back here now with nothing after paying taxes for years to support you sitting here.

    Now you try to tell them to pay even more?

    Where is Dannys 800 Million Dollar injection? Have not seen anyone obtain employment to pay the ticket prices to keep the minority happy with a blood sport in St. Johns.

    Since you seem to have all the answers, please provide the names and numbers of those that are offering positions today for those that would rather work to feed families then spend money on a foolish game that has little to no value in the overall economy.

    Thought so, you have none to offer yet you talk a big game like so many others.

    Hockey has no place in recovery. If you want it so bad, get on the plane and pay the million dollar wages of the NHL players. Stop wasting time and money we do not have here on silly games for children.

  • Colin
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    This is deadly get it finished up!!!Doug do u not understand that after this season there will be no Q teams relocating in the near future and the AHL will never be back and LGM remaining owner means SJSE is not putting in such a major amount of cash