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Says Neville 'lacked empathy for children'

An independent investigation into the management style of former child and youth advocate Darlene Neville concludes she was rightly fired by the House of Assembly in December.

The Telegram obtained a copy of a report completed last week by Robert Noseworthy in his capacity as acting citizens' representative.

Darlene Neville

An independent investigation into the management style of former child and youth advocate Darlene Neville concludes she was rightly fired by the House of Assembly in December.

The Telegram obtained a copy of a report completed last week by Robert Noseworthy in his capacity as acting citizens' representative.

Noseworthy was hired to do the report after Neville complained citizens' representative Barry Fleming was in a conflict of interest.

But she still went to court last July to have Noseworthy's investigation into complaints by her staff quashed. She discontinued that court action late last month.

Noseworthy interviewed 14 current and former employees of the Office of The Child And Youth Advocate.

He also states he asked Neville to take part in the investigation - so she could tell her side of the story - at least three times, but she refused.

The report outlines the evidence Noseworthy gathered through the interviews. The picture painted by 13 of those people is bizarre, rife with incredibly negative comments about Neville and in some cases frightening.

Noseworthy attributes all comments simply to staff and doesn't link individual comments with names.

The other person interviewed was Neville's former executive secretary. Her testimony is the complete opposite of everybody else's assessment of the workings of the office.

The report suggests the atmosphere in the office started to go down hill just a few months after Neville was confirmed in her position by the House in fall of 2005.

In early 2006, she dismissed two of her most senior staff.

She claimed they were in a conflict of interest because they had previously worked for the Department of Health and Community Services.

The report states that "set a tone of fear" in the office as to who would be next.

But the most damning part of the report states that her staff felt Neville "lacked empathy for children."

One staff member said she "could care less about the youngsters in this province."

Another told Noseworthy "kids have suffered because of the way the office is run."

The report states that staff described Neville as "unpredictable, unprofessional, untrustworthy and a procrastinator with regard to both her own work as well as providing guidance to others."

Staff said they didn't want to go to Neville for guidance because "it would be time consuming listening to her talk, the direction would be ambiguous, they would be subject to interrogation by Ms. Neville and it would mean more work ... at the expense of valuable time being diverted from other priority files."

Some said they would waste two hours if they went to talk with her and barely get a word in edgewise.

It also states Neville would constantly criticize staff for the least little thing which "helped promote the 'atmosphere of fear' within the office whereby if you 'screw up' even a little you will incur the wrath of the advocate."

Staff described Neville as a bully, who would get angry and shout and berate them.

They called her management style punitive and tyrannical with no respect for anyone but herself.

She would call the work of some staff members "crap" or "complete garbage."

One of the most bizarre stories detailed in the report shows Neville's' control over the office supplies.

After moving to a new office on LeMarchant Road in 2008, Neville had three staff members each count every office supply, be it pen or Post-it notes, and log it on a spreadsheet which staff would have to initial once they obtained supplies from the locked room.

When two $5 calculators went missing, staff spent "many hours" looking for them, before they were found.

When Neville would review travel claims for staff she would add up each amount on a calculator, and have her assistant do the same to make sure the numbers matched, even though the addition was done automatically on a spreadsheet.

The report suggests Neville was overly paranoid about the offices finances.

Yet, after the move to the new office, Neville's staff said she and her executive secretary "spent an inordinate amount of time" picking out furniture, lamps and paint colours for the new office instead of doing the work she was supposed to.

Staff said she was obsessed with appearances.

The report also states she was vulgar at times and talked about sex in the office.

Staff said Neville constantly blamed them for every little thing, and never stood by them if a media report had something negative to say about the work of the office.

The report also said Neville never developed any protocols for investigations, and only completed one report in the more than four years she held the position.

Neville also didn't have much time for people who came to the office.

The report states she hid in the kitchen one day when someone came to the office and demanded to speak with her.

But the report states Neville's attitude seemed to change after investigations into her office began.

Some called her change like "Jekyll and Hyde," while others said she became "eerily nice."

The report said after years of the previous treatment, staff didn't take her new attitude to be genuine.

Neville's executive secretary however defended her former boss during a number of interviews with Noseworthy.

But the rest of the staff said the secretary was a confidant of the former advocate and spent a lot of time with Neville in her office, with the door closed.

Noseworthy concluded Neville was guilty of gross mismanagement and violated her code of conduct.

dbartlett@thetelegram.com

Organizations: Office of The Child, Department of Health and Community

Geographic location: LeMarchant Road

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  • Disappointed
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    Even if all of the story is true, I really don't think it is necessary for it to have been made public. Surely there are lots of people who lose their jobs and unless there was a criminal act or some incident of breaking the law, the public does not know the cause. Ms. Neville is a young enough lady to need a job, and I don't like this kind of attack...her references should disclose any concerns in a confidential manner. Now everyone knows her name in an unflattering manner. She may have been an excellent social worker, which led to her getting the job in the first place. I really hate this kind of trashing. What is the truth anyhow?
    By the way, I do not know her or any of her relatives. I just believe that she is a human being deserving of dignity.

  • I. P. Freely
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Can't believe the Tely removed my comment, it wasn't that bad, I've seen the crack Tely staff write worse about the premier.

  • GAR
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Ms. Neville's staff described her as being obsessive and paranoid and it reminded me of Humphrey Bogart's character, Captain Queeg, in the classic movie, The Caine Mutiny. Captain Queeg was convinced that crewmembers were taking more scoops of ice cream from the ice cream container than they were entitled to. He ordered all the crew to sit down in his quarters, put a full ice cream container on a table, and asked each man how many scoops he had taken. Queeg would then take out the appropriate number of scoops from the container. The crew was freaked out by the fact that the captain of a destroyer/minesweeper on maneuvers, was interrogating them about scoops of ice cream. Queeg's executive officer took command when Queeg's neurotic behavior reached a breaking point.

  • J.D.
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    If it looks like a duck...and quacks like a duck...it's probably a duck.

    Good job staff for saying what was really happening behind closed doors. I'm sure the next manager will be well liked by the staff who endured Neville's wrath for far too long.

  • Disapora
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Sounds like Captain Queeg and the missing strawberries.

  • Tammy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Janiece from NL writes: I worked in such a toxic work environment that a physician diagnosed my hair loss as a result of all the stress. When my coworker retired all my symptoms went away. I think it should be the job of OH&S to identify toxic work environments. I wonder how Ms. Neville handled her staff in all the other jobs she had? Is there a trail of injured workers out there?

    I worked with Darlene in the past and can say she was a pleasure. Maybe, just maybe, it's the OTHER STAFF that are full of it, when a bunch of women get something in their head, like getting rid of Darlene well, we all know how that turned out. We all would do well to remember that there are two sides to this story.!

  • Disapora
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    Listen up Jim and others. You wonder how people in government walk into supervisory and management jobs? Nothing more than seniority. Doesn't matter if they barely made it past grade 8 or had to make a decision in their lives, seniority rules.
    Mario..You never worked at Tom Woodford's that's for sure.

  • jim
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    if these statements are true. How does someone so twisted get appointed to this senior position. what kind of selection process is used?!?!
    friend of a friend I guess! the word corruption continues to come to mind

  • Lee
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Today's workers think they have it so bad and that none of the problems Dorothy Tucker from St. John's, Newfoundland mentions ever existed before their generation. Now, this so-called 'Me Generation' thinks they are in charge of the workplace. It's very difficult to correct such poor work ethic, and when you make an honest attempt and try to get some productivity in between the additonal new-age distractions of cell phones ringing, facebook and msn, it becomes very challenging to approach the employee and ask them to focus on their job without receiving pushback. Maybe people like Dorothy Tucker from St. John's, Newfoundland should be thankful any employer puts up with them at all. Maybe they should not even be in the workplace. But just try and fire them.

  • elizabeth
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    how come my post are not coming up on here...did i say something wrong??????????????

  • B.W
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Even if all of the story is true, I really don't think it is necessary for it to have been made public._____ Of course it had to be made public. That woman wasted everyone's time, and put herself in the spotlight for months, whining about how she was wrongly fired. The house took a day and a half to debate about whether or not it was justified ffs. Although I've reserved final judgement until now, I'm happy to see that my first impression was right. Darlene Neville is a drama queen who just couldn't deal like an adult with being fired.

  • Starr
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Its a good thing this was made public - there are many out there suffering the same treatment - maybe not to this extent but I've work in several offices where shades of this behavior and (mis)management, fear-based, control freak have been the 'norm.' It doesn't make for a pleasant workplace and definitely decreases performace.

  • Telling it how I'd
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Perhaps the Provinicial government could make a call to Scranton, Pennsylvania and recruit Michael Scott from the Dunder Mifflin Paper Company.

    Im' sure he could do a better job than Ms. Neville.

  • Trish
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Wow, sounds like my boss, they could be twins. Flipping out over the least little thing, making me handle some clients because she was too afraid. I can relate, glad Ms Neville is gone if that's the way she handled herself.

  • Edward
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    And here was I thinking my Ex was the only girl like that!

  • Dave
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Here's an idea, how about working at the Champagne Room?

  • Lee
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    It sure sounds like my office place, but no one would ever believe me. Staff CAN seemingly all conspire to make your job difficult. It's this new era of omnipotence, self-entitlement, labour laws and political correctness all rolled into one. You'll feel it when you take over an office previously occupied by workers who got away with things they shouldn't have, and they now have to deal with you, hired to put a stop to all this.

  • elizabeth
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    don,t alot of bosses,, act,, like that..i had a few i could of said shut the f- upppppp,,,but you can t ?????

  • Sounding
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Office politics - is there anything worse?

  • Eugene
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Sounds like a toxic office environment!! Also, when new managers come into an organization charged with making changes, the incumbent staff can (and often do) conspire to have the new manager tossed....not unlike the way adolescents treat substitute teachers. But, not being a fly on the wall, I must defer to Noseworthy; mind, the accusers weren't identified.

  • elizabeth
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    dalene a bully..i think alot of people get this power trip,,how many of us had also worked with these kind of people.and wanted to say shut the ....upppppppppppppppppppppp..........but we can,t because she,or he is the lifeline...

  • Judy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Good bye to Darlene Neville!! Obviously, she didn't have the knowledge, leadership and professionalism for that position AND she proved that. Move on Darlene and learn that your attitude and behaviour is intolerable!
    We have spent enough on her nonsense. Let's focus on rebuilding the confidence of the office and helping the children of NL.

  • Nasty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Noseworthy concluded Neville was quilty of gross mismanagement and violated her code of conduct.

    WoW, QUILTY? That's a new term.

  • Sea Dog
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    So whats the problem sounds like a typical run Gov. Dept. to me , is'nt that the way our Danny Boy runs cabinet? sure seems so to me . All dictatorships operate like that so lighten up on her, in the meantime if she was all that bad how come she is still working with Gov. sort of makes you wonder does it not ?Good luck Darlene watch your back someones out to get you thats for sure .

  • egc
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Good job Sarah . that,s the way to put all of this into prospective . We can all cry and complain all we want . If we really want to fix the problem we need to see the problem . To hell with Darlene whatshername and shame on all at the office for putting themselves ahead of the children . We need people like Sarah to show us how to go forward .

  • Brenda
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    J G from Corner Brook, NL that's koodoos or kudus not kootoos. Maybe you are confusing it with cooties, of which perhaps you've had lots of personal experience. I now see the illiterate and vengeful bunch Darlene had to work with. Good for her to get another nice Provincial gov job. Let's see how long the next manager lasts with that vengeful bunch.

  • Silver
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    I work in the public sector..........civil service after 10 years in private industry...........same thing at every public office.

    Managers are all ill-prepared to mange, to make any decisons and are generally unemployable outside the public sector.

    I am not surprised at this report & accusations. Mob mentality in the civil service is common.

    I just shut my mouth and collect my cheque, it's like a retirement if you don't let yourself get paranoid or get involved in the politics.

  • Sarah
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Sounds like the same nasty dysfunctional self absorbed office that was in place when I was a ward of the court, the so called SYSTEM 40 years ago. Very sad to see as kids are still the ones that SUFFER for life due to arrogance and neglect, in home life and foster care. Not all of us survive YOU the systemwho should have taken care of usinstead you made our lives a living hell with more abuse and neglect in homes not fit for a dog...no food, sexual abuse, mental abuse, physical abuse, cold, lonely, never checked on to see that we were okay, and when we complained we were never believedshame on you all. BUT I AM better than you all put together today as I raised myself and escaped your wrath sooner than later. If the government wants real workers that would know and care for abandoned children in this province then hire the kids who know like me. Shameful.

  • Jerome
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Can anyone guess where Ms. Neville is right now?
    Who appointed her to the job she presently has?

  • Audrey
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Goose Bay, look out!

  • Mario
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    So, Polly, Are you arguing that this type of mismanagement in government offices isn't worth discussing? because I really feel that it isn't nearly talked about as much as it should. As a taxpayer, I feel greatly offended when I find out that scum like this has been living on my tab for such a long time, especially since there are people on this island who could have used that wasted salary to put a roof over their heads. If it was going on in a private company, I wouldn't care because I'm not the one who pays their salary. Funny thing is, this $hit doesn't happen in the private industry because if you don't contribute to the workplace in a positive way, your fired, period.

  • egc
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    Good job Sarah . that,s the way to put all of this into prospective . We can all cry and complain all we want . If we really want to fix the problem we need to see the problem . To hell with Darlene whatshername and shame on all at the office for putting themselves ahead of the children . We need people like Sarah to show us how to go forward .

  • J
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    Justice does prevail, Darlene. In a number of cases we worked on in St. John's, you were always militant in your views and now I guess you have to move on to a new life. Kootoos to your former staff..they know about youth and the advocacy need!

  • Kathy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    Wow. I was curious as to what the real story was. Sounds like a dictator/tyrant.

  • member of the 20%
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    If this is the real story, kinda makes you wonder who hired her; what her creditials were; and, who's still looking after her?...didn't she just take another provincial government posting? And, there's just not enough room for two dictators in one kingdom!

  • Mike
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    I don't understand why her executive assistant's description of office working was not elaborated on. This story is intentionally skewed, as was the report, against Darlene Neville.

    You all have to remember that she was sent in to correct many of the inadequate practices of the previous advocate...for whom most of the current staff worked! Of course they rebelled and cast Neville's style in a negative light, she was trying to bring about a change in method and work ethic. Their work probably was crap.

    I don't blame Neville for not participating, but I think we should all take the comments of her disgruntled staff with a grain of salt and Noseworthy's report should be provided to pet stores to line bird cages, at least then it will have some useful purpose. If her executive assistant sees things differently, then maybe, just maybe, we should listen to her.

  • joy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    who suffers here Our Children the people who need a voice so much in this place we all call home...There is so much suffering and so little action...Why?
    Because of people like Ms.Neville and many more who only have to sit with
    the children and youth and truly listen to their concerns and truly act on them...
    also I wonder what is happening with the two investcation Ms.Neville started when she was child youth advacate...I hope they are still being done...And where is the youth mental health place they were gonna build?

  • Notta chance
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    And the independent review was ordered by -----government??? Hhhhmmmm!! Out come??? Right, you guessed it!! Whodda thought, 'eh??

  • Sailor
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    Seems like the staff was right all along. The child youth advocate and her secretary apparently had an excellent relationship whereas the rest of the staff had a terrible relationship with her. If you have 13 to 1, that tells a lot.

  • inquiring minds
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    But the rest of the staff said the secretary was a confident of the former advocate and spent a lot of time with Neville in her office, with the door closed.

    =================================

    A lot of time behind closed door huh.....

  • bill
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    I worked with Ms Neville and never had any problems with her. I thought she was one odf the better ones to work for. I guess her former employees didn't like her style and wanted her booted out. Well i guess they got their wish . I would not wnat to be the next person in charge there. Whet will they do to that person

  • Robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    So, bottom line, the report concludes that Neville was disrespectful towards her employees, unproductive, exhibited favourtism, and did not love the peoiple that she was supposed to serve.
    That's no different from the majority of other managers in the provincial government. Is Danny going to fire them all?

  • up4discussion
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    And what about the children? How did her mismanagement affect the supposed 1:1 ratio of youth care workers to children in residential (group care) settings in Newfoundland?

  • GAR
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    Hey, Lee from NL., most people who are or have been in your situation would believe you. One of the worst scenarios a competent supervisor or manager has to deal with is taking over from someone who's been 'Mr. Nice Guy', someone who let the staff do what they bloody well like and did not hold the staff accountable for anything. You've got an uphill battle on your hands because the knives are out from day one for the guy who ' thinks he's ' gonna change things around here'. Try to get some lazy slob to do his/her job or hold him/her accountable and you may very well find yourself facing a harassment complaint. The complaint may be frivolous but the staff person has nothing to lose by trying to stick it to the boss.

  • Don
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    Did i get this right. This (person) got hired by Government again.!!! No way. Right? Must have read it wrong. Silly me.

  • Dorothy
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    I think this being made public is encouraging, why shouldn't her being such a bully be broadcasted, she never considered her coworkers feelings when she was being a bully..perhaps people in high positions like her will think twice now before they make someone trying to do their job miserable, it is hard enough having to deal with everyday life, finances, children, sick parents, etc etc we should not have to deal with unnecessary issues at work...I am happy to see the people who worked with/for her get some satisfaction..also to the person who pointed out when to use the then/than word..What is the big deal..it has nothing to do with the story..perhaps you are a bit of a bully too...

    Sick of people thinking they are better than others

  • Mario
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    This just goes to show just how badly and how long you need to screw up before you get fired from a government position. Makes you wonder how much of the same bull$hit is going on in government buildings all over the province...

  • member of the 20%
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    NOTE TO TELLY!! the second posting by this user name is a fraud!! I take responsibility for the first post; but, not the one directed to Nasty Nate. Please screen the users and flush out the Tory wags!

  • Janiece
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    I worked in such a toxic work environment that a physician diagnosed my hair loss as a result of all the stress. When my coworker retired all my symptoms went away. I think it should be the job of OH&S to identify toxic work environments. I wonder how Ms. Neville handled her staff in all the other jobs she had? Is there a trail of injured workers out there?

  • John
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    December 2009, Province says You hate children! You are a monster! You are fired!

    February 2010, Province says Hey Darlene here is a nice job offer to run legal aid in Goose Bay! Welcome back to working for the province!

    Wait...ummm....what the?

  • CB
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    AMEN!

  • member of the 20%
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Nasty Nate from St. Johns, Newfoundland would you like me to tell you about your chronic misuse of some particular word now, rather thEn later ? Hahaha... (I really wish you could figure out the difference between the words thEn and thAn). Oh, just to clarify, the opening question is an example of your misuse. It should read thAn and not thEn. Idiot.

  • Polly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    I am amazed at the hate- mongering that is posted here under the guise of public awareness. Events are rarely as they appear and this case is no exception . Sniping from the sideline is a luxury few people, who actually do try to make a difference in our world, can afford.

  • Disappointed
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    Even if all of the story is true, I really don't think it is necessary for it to have been made public. Surely there are lots of people who lose their jobs and unless there was a criminal act or some incident of breaking the law, the public does not know the cause. Ms. Neville is a young enough lady to need a job, and I don't like this kind of attack...her references should disclose any concerns in a confidential manner. Now everyone knows her name in an unflattering manner. She may have been an excellent social worker, which led to her getting the job in the first place. I really hate this kind of trashing. What is the truth anyhow?
    By the way, I do not know her or any of her relatives. I just believe that she is a human being deserving of dignity.

  • I. P. Freely
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Can't believe the Tely removed my comment, it wasn't that bad, I've seen the crack Tely staff write worse about the premier.

  • GAR
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    Ms. Neville's staff described her as being obsessive and paranoid and it reminded me of Humphrey Bogart's character, Captain Queeg, in the classic movie, The Caine Mutiny. Captain Queeg was convinced that crewmembers were taking more scoops of ice cream from the ice cream container than they were entitled to. He ordered all the crew to sit down in his quarters, put a full ice cream container on a table, and asked each man how many scoops he had taken. Queeg would then take out the appropriate number of scoops from the container. The crew was freaked out by the fact that the captain of a destroyer/minesweeper on maneuvers, was interrogating them about scoops of ice cream. Queeg's executive officer took command when Queeg's neurotic behavior reached a breaking point.

  • J.D.
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    If it looks like a duck...and quacks like a duck...it's probably a duck.

    Good job staff for saying what was really happening behind closed doors. I'm sure the next manager will be well liked by the staff who endured Neville's wrath for far too long.

  • Disapora
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    Sounds like Captain Queeg and the missing strawberries.

  • Tammy
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    Janiece from NL writes: I worked in such a toxic work environment that a physician diagnosed my hair loss as a result of all the stress. When my coworker retired all my symptoms went away. I think it should be the job of OH&S to identify toxic work environments. I wonder how Ms. Neville handled her staff in all the other jobs she had? Is there a trail of injured workers out there?

    I worked with Darlene in the past and can say she was a pleasure. Maybe, just maybe, it's the OTHER STAFF that are full of it, when a bunch of women get something in their head, like getting rid of Darlene well, we all know how that turned out. We all would do well to remember that there are two sides to this story.!

  • Disapora
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    Listen up Jim and others. You wonder how people in government walk into supervisory and management jobs? Nothing more than seniority. Doesn't matter if they barely made it past grade 8 or had to make a decision in their lives, seniority rules.
    Mario..You never worked at Tom Woodford's that's for sure.

  • jim
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    if these statements are true. How does someone so twisted get appointed to this senior position. what kind of selection process is used?!?!
    friend of a friend I guess! the word corruption continues to come to mind

  • Lee
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Today's workers think they have it so bad and that none of the problems Dorothy Tucker from St. John's, Newfoundland mentions ever existed before their generation. Now, this so-called 'Me Generation' thinks they are in charge of the workplace. It's very difficult to correct such poor work ethic, and when you make an honest attempt and try to get some productivity in between the additonal new-age distractions of cell phones ringing, facebook and msn, it becomes very challenging to approach the employee and ask them to focus on their job without receiving pushback. Maybe people like Dorothy Tucker from St. John's, Newfoundland should be thankful any employer puts up with them at all. Maybe they should not even be in the workplace. But just try and fire them.

  • elizabeth
    July 01, 2010 - 20:13

    how come my post are not coming up on here...did i say something wrong??????????????

  • B.W
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    Even if all of the story is true, I really don't think it is necessary for it to have been made public._____ Of course it had to be made public. That woman wasted everyone's time, and put herself in the spotlight for months, whining about how she was wrongly fired. The house took a day and a half to debate about whether or not it was justified ffs. Although I've reserved final judgement until now, I'm happy to see that my first impression was right. Darlene Neville is a drama queen who just couldn't deal like an adult with being fired.

  • Starr
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    Its a good thing this was made public - there are many out there suffering the same treatment - maybe not to this extent but I've work in several offices where shades of this behavior and (mis)management, fear-based, control freak have been the 'norm.' It doesn't make for a pleasant workplace and definitely decreases performace.

  • Telling it how I'd
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    Perhaps the Provinicial government could make a call to Scranton, Pennsylvania and recruit Michael Scott from the Dunder Mifflin Paper Company.

    Im' sure he could do a better job than Ms. Neville.

  • Trish
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    Wow, sounds like my boss, they could be twins. Flipping out over the least little thing, making me handle some clients because she was too afraid. I can relate, glad Ms Neville is gone if that's the way she handled herself.

  • Edward
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    And here was I thinking my Ex was the only girl like that!

  • Dave
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    Here's an idea, how about working at the Champagne Room?

  • Lee
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    It sure sounds like my office place, but no one would ever believe me. Staff CAN seemingly all conspire to make your job difficult. It's this new era of omnipotence, self-entitlement, labour laws and political correctness all rolled into one. You'll feel it when you take over an office previously occupied by workers who got away with things they shouldn't have, and they now have to deal with you, hired to put a stop to all this.

  • elizabeth
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    don,t alot of bosses,, act,, like that..i had a few i could of said shut the f- upppppp,,,but you can t ?????

  • Sounding
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    Office politics - is there anything worse?

  • Eugene
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    Sounds like a toxic office environment!! Also, when new managers come into an organization charged with making changes, the incumbent staff can (and often do) conspire to have the new manager tossed....not unlike the way adolescents treat substitute teachers. But, not being a fly on the wall, I must defer to Noseworthy; mind, the accusers weren't identified.

  • elizabeth
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    dalene a bully..i think alot of people get this power trip,,how many of us had also worked with these kind of people.and wanted to say shut the ....upppppppppppppppppppppp..........but we can,t because she,or he is the lifeline...

  • Judy
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Good bye to Darlene Neville!! Obviously, she didn't have the knowledge, leadership and professionalism for that position AND she proved that. Move on Darlene and learn that your attitude and behaviour is intolerable!
    We have spent enough on her nonsense. Let's focus on rebuilding the confidence of the office and helping the children of NL.

  • Nasty
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Noseworthy concluded Neville was quilty of gross mismanagement and violated her code of conduct.

    WoW, QUILTY? That's a new term.

  • Sea Dog
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    So whats the problem sounds like a typical run Gov. Dept. to me , is'nt that the way our Danny Boy runs cabinet? sure seems so to me . All dictatorships operate like that so lighten up on her, in the meantime if she was all that bad how come she is still working with Gov. sort of makes you wonder does it not ?Good luck Darlene watch your back someones out to get you thats for sure .

  • egc
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Good job Sarah . that,s the way to put all of this into prospective . We can all cry and complain all we want . If we really want to fix the problem we need to see the problem . To hell with Darlene whatshername and shame on all at the office for putting themselves ahead of the children . We need people like Sarah to show us how to go forward .

  • Brenda
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    J G from Corner Brook, NL that's koodoos or kudus not kootoos. Maybe you are confusing it with cooties, of which perhaps you've had lots of personal experience. I now see the illiterate and vengeful bunch Darlene had to work with. Good for her to get another nice Provincial gov job. Let's see how long the next manager lasts with that vengeful bunch.

  • Silver
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    I work in the public sector..........civil service after 10 years in private industry...........same thing at every public office.

    Managers are all ill-prepared to mange, to make any decisons and are generally unemployable outside the public sector.

    I am not surprised at this report & accusations. Mob mentality in the civil service is common.

    I just shut my mouth and collect my cheque, it's like a retirement if you don't let yourself get paranoid or get involved in the politics.

  • Sarah
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    Sounds like the same nasty dysfunctional self absorbed office that was in place when I was a ward of the court, the so called SYSTEM 40 years ago. Very sad to see as kids are still the ones that SUFFER for life due to arrogance and neglect, in home life and foster care. Not all of us survive YOU the systemwho should have taken care of usinstead you made our lives a living hell with more abuse and neglect in homes not fit for a dog...no food, sexual abuse, mental abuse, physical abuse, cold, lonely, never checked on to see that we were okay, and when we complained we were never believedshame on you all. BUT I AM better than you all put together today as I raised myself and escaped your wrath sooner than later. If the government wants real workers that would know and care for abandoned children in this province then hire the kids who know like me. Shameful.

  • Jerome
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Can anyone guess where Ms. Neville is right now?
    Who appointed her to the job she presently has?

  • Audrey
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Goose Bay, look out!

  • Mario
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    So, Polly, Are you arguing that this type of mismanagement in government offices isn't worth discussing? because I really feel that it isn't nearly talked about as much as it should. As a taxpayer, I feel greatly offended when I find out that scum like this has been living on my tab for such a long time, especially since there are people on this island who could have used that wasted salary to put a roof over their heads. If it was going on in a private company, I wouldn't care because I'm not the one who pays their salary. Funny thing is, this $hit doesn't happen in the private industry because if you don't contribute to the workplace in a positive way, your fired, period.

  • egc
    July 01, 2010 - 19:59

    Good job Sarah . that,s the way to put all of this into prospective . We can all cry and complain all we want . If we really want to fix the problem we need to see the problem . To hell with Darlene whatshername and shame on all at the office for putting themselves ahead of the children . We need people like Sarah to show us how to go forward .

  • J
    July 01, 2010 - 19:58

    Justice does prevail, Darlene. In a number of cases we worked on in St. John's, you were always militant in your views and now I guess you have to move on to a new life. Kootoos to your former staff..they know about youth and the advocacy need!

  • Kathy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    Wow. I was curious as to what the real story was. Sounds like a dictator/tyrant.

  • member of the 20%
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    If this is the real story, kinda makes you wonder who hired her; what her creditials were; and, who's still looking after her?...didn't she just take another provincial government posting? And, there's just not enough room for two dictators in one kingdom!

  • Mike
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    I don't understand why her executive assistant's description of office working was not elaborated on. This story is intentionally skewed, as was the report, against Darlene Neville.

    You all have to remember that she was sent in to correct many of the inadequate practices of the previous advocate...for whom most of the current staff worked! Of course they rebelled and cast Neville's style in a negative light, she was trying to bring about a change in method and work ethic. Their work probably was crap.

    I don't blame Neville for not participating, but I think we should all take the comments of her disgruntled staff with a grain of salt and Noseworthy's report should be provided to pet stores to line bird cages, at least then it will have some useful purpose. If her executive assistant sees things differently, then maybe, just maybe, we should listen to her.

  • joy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    who suffers here Our Children the people who need a voice so much in this place we all call home...There is so much suffering and so little action...Why?
    Because of people like Ms.Neville and many more who only have to sit with
    the children and youth and truly listen to their concerns and truly act on them...
    also I wonder what is happening with the two investcation Ms.Neville started when she was child youth advacate...I hope they are still being done...And where is the youth mental health place they were gonna build?

  • Notta chance
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    And the independent review was ordered by -----government??? Hhhhmmmm!! Out come??? Right, you guessed it!! Whodda thought, 'eh??

  • Sailor
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    Seems like the staff was right all along. The child youth advocate and her secretary apparently had an excellent relationship whereas the rest of the staff had a terrible relationship with her. If you have 13 to 1, that tells a lot.

  • inquiring minds
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    But the rest of the staff said the secretary was a confident of the former advocate and spent a lot of time with Neville in her office, with the door closed.

    =================================

    A lot of time behind closed door huh.....

  • bill
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    I worked with Ms Neville and never had any problems with her. I thought she was one odf the better ones to work for. I guess her former employees didn't like her style and wanted her booted out. Well i guess they got their wish . I would not wnat to be the next person in charge there. Whet will they do to that person

  • Robert
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    So, bottom line, the report concludes that Neville was disrespectful towards her employees, unproductive, exhibited favourtism, and did not love the peoiple that she was supposed to serve.
    That's no different from the majority of other managers in the provincial government. Is Danny going to fire them all?

  • up4discussion
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    And what about the children? How did her mismanagement affect the supposed 1:1 ratio of youth care workers to children in residential (group care) settings in Newfoundland?

  • GAR
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    Hey, Lee from NL., most people who are or have been in your situation would believe you. One of the worst scenarios a competent supervisor or manager has to deal with is taking over from someone who's been 'Mr. Nice Guy', someone who let the staff do what they bloody well like and did not hold the staff accountable for anything. You've got an uphill battle on your hands because the knives are out from day one for the guy who ' thinks he's ' gonna change things around here'. Try to get some lazy slob to do his/her job or hold him/her accountable and you may very well find yourself facing a harassment complaint. The complaint may be frivolous but the staff person has nothing to lose by trying to stick it to the boss.

  • Don
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    Did i get this right. This (person) got hired by Government again.!!! No way. Right? Must have read it wrong. Silly me.

  • Dorothy
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    I think this being made public is encouraging, why shouldn't her being such a bully be broadcasted, she never considered her coworkers feelings when she was being a bully..perhaps people in high positions like her will think twice now before they make someone trying to do their job miserable, it is hard enough having to deal with everyday life, finances, children, sick parents, etc etc we should not have to deal with unnecessary issues at work...I am happy to see the people who worked with/for her get some satisfaction..also to the person who pointed out when to use the then/than word..What is the big deal..it has nothing to do with the story..perhaps you are a bit of a bully too...

    Sick of people thinking they are better than others

  • Mario
    July 01, 2010 - 19:47

    This just goes to show just how badly and how long you need to screw up before you get fired from a government position. Makes you wonder how much of the same bull$hit is going on in government buildings all over the province...

  • member of the 20%
    July 01, 2010 - 19:47

    NOTE TO TELLY!! the second posting by this user name is a fraud!! I take responsibility for the first post; but, not the one directed to Nasty Nate. Please screen the users and flush out the Tory wags!

  • Janiece
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    I worked in such a toxic work environment that a physician diagnosed my hair loss as a result of all the stress. When my coworker retired all my symptoms went away. I think it should be the job of OH&S to identify toxic work environments. I wonder how Ms. Neville handled her staff in all the other jobs she had? Is there a trail of injured workers out there?

  • John
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    December 2009, Province says You hate children! You are a monster! You are fired!

    February 2010, Province says Hey Darlene here is a nice job offer to run legal aid in Goose Bay! Welcome back to working for the province!

    Wait...ummm....what the?

  • CB
    July 01, 2010 - 19:45

    AMEN!

  • member of the 20%
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Nasty Nate from St. Johns, Newfoundland would you like me to tell you about your chronic misuse of some particular word now, rather thEn later ? Hahaha... (I really wish you could figure out the difference between the words thEn and thAn). Oh, just to clarify, the opening question is an example of your misuse. It should read thAn and not thEn. Idiot.

  • Polly
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    I am amazed at the hate- mongering that is posted here under the guise of public awareness. Events are rarely as they appear and this case is no exception . Sniping from the sideline is a luxury few people, who actually do try to make a difference in our world, can afford.