Quebec Innu hunters may be charged

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Minister says no double standard for aboriginal hunters

Justice Minister Felix Collins says there are not two standards for white and Innu people caught hunting in closed zones.

About 150 Quebec Innu completed a caribou hunt in the Cache River area of Labrador last Wednesday, taking 250 animals.

More than 100 Quebec Innu crossed the provincial border into Labrador and killed 250 caribou in a closed zone, claiming they were exercising their aboriginal rights. - Photo by Adam Randell/The Labradorian

Justice Minister Felix Collins says there are not two standards for white and Innu people caught hunting in closed zones.

About 150 Quebec Innu completed a caribou hunt in the Cache River area of Labrador last Wednesday, taking 250 animals.

The area of the hunt is a closed zone because the endangered Red Wine caribou herd - which only had an estimated 87 animals left - live in the area year-round.

When the hunt began, hundreds of caribou from the George River Herd had migrated into the area as they do each year.

The Newfoundland and Labrador government made it clear the hunt was illegal, and said charges will be laid if sufficient evidence was gathered by the RCMP and conservation officers during the five-day hunt last week.

Officers monitored the hunt from the ground and the air, but did not attempt to arrest the hunters.

"My understanding is the calibre of the surveillance is good, and in all likelihood, good enough to have charges laid and we're hoping that'll be the case," Collins told The Telegram Monday.

Some people in the province have complained the government didn't stop the hunt because the hunters were Innu.

But Collins said that's not true.

He said all hunters - regardless of their background - caught in a closed zone will have to forfeit vehicles and gear and face being arrested.

Collins said that would have happened last week if it was a dozen or so Innu hunters.

"But it's a different ball game when you put 200 people there," he said. "That was the collective consensus. Going into this, we would not put people in harm's way."

Considering the volatility of the situation, with 150 to 200 armed hunters on the ground, Collins said it could have escalated to be like "the showdown at the O.K. Corral" if the RCMP or conservation officers tried to make arrests.

"Nobody in their right mind is going to put people's safety at risk in that kind of a situation," said the minister.

Collins also said provincial statistics indicate wildlife charges in Labrador are evenly split between Innu and non-Innu hunters.

Last week's hunters, from five different Quebec communities, weren't concerned about being charged because they believe they have an aboriginal right to hunt in the area.

"We are not criminals, we do what we have to do to protect our rights," Chief Real McKenzie of Matimekush-Lac John, Que., told The Labradorian.

He contends the Red Wine caribou are not endangered because they are part of the larger George River Herd.

"According to our Innu biologist, (the herds are) the same," McKenzie said. "(The Red Wine), it's a split from the George River group that decided to stay here."

But in an e-mailed statement to The Telegram, Environment Minister Charlene Johnson disputed that claim.

"The George River and Red Wine caribou herds are unique and different in many ways," she said.

Johnson said the Red Wine caribou are forest-dwellers while the George River animals are migratory.

"Generally, forest-dwelling caribou ... are longer, taller and heavier than migratory caribou. However, it can be difficult to tell them apart in the field, as different ages and genders are mixed together," she said.

Johnson said the two herds do not interbreed and have unique "behavioural, morphological and genetic differences."

The hunt was also a protest as the Quebec Innu claim this province left them out of the New Dawn Agreement, which will provide Labrador Innu with economic benefits from the proposed Lower Churchill hydroelectric project.

McKenzie believes this is why the Labrador Innu didn't partake in the hunt.

He said Deputy Grand Chief Peter Penashue of the Labrador Innu didn't want to sour relations with the Newfoundland and Labrador government.

"We are sad because we were hoping to be here together," McKenzie said.

Penashue could not be reached for comment before The Telegram's deadline.

But Collins said the New Dawn Agreement was one step in a lands claim agreement with the Labrador Innu.

He said if the Quebec Innu want to make a claim for rights in Labrador, that would have to be negotiated as an "overlapping interest," and those discussions have to involve the federal government, which has jurisdiction over land claims.

Collins said the Quebec Innu know this.

Still, the minister hopes the leaders of the Quebec Innu will meet with the province about the conservation of the Red Wine herd.

dbartlett@thetelegram.com

Organizations: RCMP, The Labradorian

Geographic location: Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Red Wine Cache River George River Matimekush-Lac John

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  • VRP
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    Killing all those animals with the traditional bow and arrow, skinning them with the traditional stone knife, lugging them all the way home on the traditional travois... Can't someone provide them with a traditional snowmobile? I understand the Province has already provided a traditional helicopter to take a sick hunter to a traditional hospital. I have a feeling they're laughing all the way to the traditional bank, as enough of us are still fooled by their very modern extortion racket to allow them to get away with almost anything.

  • steve
    July 02, 2010 - 13:35

    I agree with P, however, the Innu eat more Mary Brown's, Big Macs and Pizzas than they do caribou. They will survive because there will never be a government with the 'gonads' to stand up to these criminals.

    To Peter, they lost the fight, move on.

  • Bern
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    why would anyone expect a sensible answer about this isue, when we have a IDIOT running the Justice Dept.
    Minister Blunderdale is no better.

  • wayne
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    If the gutless polititions are not prepared to do anything about it since there are no votes to be gained, let them go ahead and clean them all up. We have a bunch of gutless wonders for leaders (that is the ones that are not in crow bar hotel

  • Old Man Winter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Absolutely disgusted! I tend to hold the values of natives/aboriginals quite high, but this is an absolute mockery of being one with nature. Shameful!

  • Kelly
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    So much for the old adage wise aboriginal. This is just plain stupid and these people are thumbing their noses at the law because they know they can't (won't) be prosecuted. Their sense of entitlement is sad and ridiculous. I can't believe they can (will) get away with this!

  • David
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    Innu may be charged. Santa retained as defense counsel.

  • Edmund
    July 02, 2010 - 13:34

    What do you expect from a bunch of Quebec natives. They simply do what they want, laughing at our enforcement people and living by their own set of rules. If you or I did this we would have been in jail long ago. They should have been left in the woods to live because all they do now is blame us for changing their way of life. Shame on the Federal & Provincial Governments for creating this huge problem we now have with them and other aboriginal groups. They now think they own & control the country again and are getting away with breaking the laws of the land whenever they want to, not only in Labrador but everywhere. If they feel threatened with arrest and jail thay will simply put up another roadblock armed with weapons and challenge our laws until we give in to them again. What a waste of our money and resources. It is time for the government to take a stand and deal with these criminals with force. Maybe a shoot out at the OK Corral is what is needed!!!!!!!!!!

  • Angela
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Lloyd from Labrador, nL writes: 'Two years ago at a Climate Change conference at NorthWest River I am certain I heard a biologist make the statement that all the herds in Labrador were genetically related.' Related yes, identical no. This is even explained in the article. Once they are extinct that's it.

    Imagine, we don't have a police force in Canada strong enough to be able to deal with this type of mass crime. This is gangland activity. The result will be the extinction of a species (a group which is reproductively isolated from other such groups).

    Funny how we can send 5,000 RCMP and 3,000 armed forced to the Vancouver Winter Games for security though.

    There is no will in our government to enforce laws with these lawless bunch of banchees.

    So basically, all it takes is about 150 hunters with high-powered rifles to keep the government at bay. Very interesting. Not something you want a terrorist group to know about.

  • Jan
    July 02, 2010 - 13:33

    Savages. It's as simple as that. I'm sick and tired of people who feel entitled . I think it's time the white man of this day and age stop paying for decades of entitlement. We should all have the same rights. The white man have lived here for many years too. But what am I entitled to? Nothing. Think we can get away with fishing cod? Not likely. My ancestors did that for years too, yet I don't get any benefits. It's time to put an end to this entitlement. How many more years are we going to put up with it?

  • frank
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    the army should be sent in to remove everything the white man has provided and that means everything. leave them underwear only and then remove them from the goverment teat and never speak to them again. they want one foot in the white mans world and with that comes respect for those who provide for them.when they have to go back to ancient ways. with no guns or snow machines or cleman stoves they will not be out of the land and the problem is solved. lets not make things easy.

  • b
    July 02, 2010 - 13:32

    Erikia White from Wallaceburg, Ontario writes: I think that the Government should lay off these people. The 250 caribou will feed 250 families for at least two months. It's not like they are shot for trophies. You do not see the native peoples of Candad hanging a head of their catch on their living room walls. Maybe if the government did not take all the lands of the Native peoples they would not have to flow into other areas to hunt. You do not like it go back to your own countries and try to live.

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    NEWS FLASH for you Erikia White from Wallaceburg, Ontario, I was BORN here, this IS MY country also you pompass a$$.

    I have every right to protest this criminal behaviour.

    I have every right to expect that criminal behaviour will be delt with by the authorities.

    We live in a country of laws, if I break the law I can expect consequences, and I expect consequences for these criminals as well.

  • don
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Seen a movie where a group of people hunted and ate all the game in the area. They turned to Cannabalism. I guess that what the government is waiting to happen.

  • steve
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    What's this....Sqaw Valley?

  • Val
    July 02, 2010 - 13:31

    Aren't these the same people who are supposedly concerned with the land and treating it with respect... certainly doesn't look like it from this picture! I thought they also only hunted what they needed to feed their families, this hunt seems like it was done to prove a point and not for nutritional need.

  • Francis
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    Pam Anderson,Mccartney and Bardot or Greenwar will not go near this one. No donations or money to be made. They would probably be shot helicoptering into this site.

  • Mike
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    i think Minister Collins should go have a talk to Minister and acting Premier Dunderdale. She believes that there are two standards. I find it incredible that the Minister of Justice now says that people caugt hunting in closed areas will have vehicles and gear forfeited...why...so that Minister Dunderdale can then order the items returned.

  • Modern Innu
    July 02, 2010 - 13:30

    P from Newfoundland writes: Let them kill all the Caribou they want. Then it's only a matter of time until their major food supply is gone. It's Darwinism at its best if you ask me.
    ===================================

    Don't kid yourself, these Innu eat the same as you and I , drive the same vehicles, live in the same houses.

    The lifestyles of these Innu in now way or manner resemble the lifestyles of their forefathers.

  • Concerned
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    These people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They may be aboriginal, but they are also criminal. We pay for everything they have including the snow machines they used to transport the caribou back to Quebec. It's time for the taxpayers of this country to stand up to this blatant extortion from these groups and say no more. We have bent over backwards to try to help them out by funding them in every way possible and giving them great portions of this land but instead they destroy what they are given and expect more as their right, they abuse nature and expect no repercussions from the government who is trying to protect the environment and all that exists within it. This is all about greed and has absolutely nothing to do with native ways or culture. Their forefathers would never have abused the bounty provided in the way these criminals have done. Aboriginal peoples lived off the land and as shown in many of their legends and stories had great respect for the environment - the animals that fed them and the gifts provided by Mother Nature. This group of thugs has no respect for anything and their motto is gimme, gimme, gimme.

  • Frank
    July 02, 2010 - 13:29

    Collins you are totally wrong when you say there is not two standards, one for white and for Innu. You also state charges may be laid with sufficient proof....I beleive the photo attached is proof enough. If a white man took a protected caribou in a no hunt zone, he would be in jail today, no questions asked. In addition, everything with him at the time (truck, gun, snowmobile etc.) would be forfeitted to the crown.

  • Erikia
    July 02, 2010 - 13:28

    I think that the Government should lay off these people. The 250 caribou will feed 250 families for at least two months. It's not like they are shot for trophies. You do not see the native peoples of Candad hanging a head of their catch on their living room walls. Maybe if the government did not take all the lands of the Native peoples they would not have to flow into other areas to hunt. You do not like it go back to your own countries and try to live.

  • Another
    July 02, 2010 - 13:27

    Too late to do anything now. How can anyone prove a thing once the people and harvest have left the province? The photo's do not show an individual identified as pulling the trigger now do they? They say 200 armed people were a danger, well send in 2000 armed soldiers. Thats what they get paid for. Just another failed attempt by the Williams Government to add to the list.

  • Bryce
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    Don't loose any sleep boys.It's only 250 caribou.No Provincial or Federal government is going to rattle any chains in Quebec. ....SOVEREIGN NATION right As for the Quebec Innu hunters,keep up the slaughter,double the quota next year and in no time at all when you need meat you can always head down to McDonald's to get a Big Mac

  • R
    July 02, 2010 - 13:26

    To further Daniel Breen's comment and what others here have said; I don't think their ancestors used rifles, pickups, ski-doos, etc to hunt! If they want to do an ancestrial hunt they should be using bow&arrow, snowshoes, dog team, etc like their ancestors used...

    Why weren't NL Innu leaders and their peoples engaged in trying to stop this slaugh, oh I mean hunt????

    It shows what they really care about; A few caribou or the economic spin-offs from the Lower Churchill or such???

  • SKP
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    I think I'm going to be sick... Why publish this photo?!?! I know that the telegram is trying to make a point and I'm sure that people are going to be outraged... however to show all thoes dead animals....

    The Innu/Quebec Innu need to smarten up! 250 animals from a heard of an endangered animal!!! Seriously?!? Just because you have an aboriginal right doesn't mean that it's justified in killing so many. They are going to hunt them until there is no more and then what are they going to do besides p*ss and moan and expect the government to do something then.... It's not right and something need to be done to stop this!!!!

  • barry
    July 02, 2010 - 13:25

    Yes charge them . What give's them the right . If any other person done this they would go to jail. By the way were is PETA in all this.I gess caribou are not as cute . Not much for them to do . May be there afraid of the Innu . Wake up Minister Collin's.

  • Dave
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    Early last week, the media reported a list of fines and sentences for people caught poaching around the island over the last number of months. One guy was fined something like $5000 and lost his boat and other gear he had with him at the time. He was found in possession of one Atlantic salmon.

    I'm not saying the salmon poacher shouldn't have been fined but this was published on the same day we were watching these 'hunters' snubbing their noses at cameras with 100 dead caribou in the foreground.

  • Jo
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    I thought native canadians were people of the land.. these greedy, lazy sons of beeotches have no respect for nature whatsoever. They want to take and take until it's all gone just because they feel it's their right to do so. They're spoiled rotten children, plain and simple...

  • up4discussion
    July 02, 2010 - 13:24

    One word...OUTRAGE!

  • member of the 20%
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    At the end of the day, after months of investigations, thousands of dollars spent, the result will be the same as last year when Minister Thunderdale was going to prosecute. NOTHING will be done. EVER. Reprimands to conservation officers, embarassment to the government and fines will be levied to white poachers; natives are exempt. Oh, wait now, they might be sentenced to a healing circle where they can plan the next move. Cutting off all sources of government funding would be a good place to start.

  • CB
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    These comments are SICKENING to me and goes to show how very little any of you know about the native culture and people. Given the opportunity I am quite sure none of you would invest any of your precious time to learn some truth or facts about the whole history..... Goes to show how narrow minded and uneducated the population is.
    Absolutely shameful

  • P
    July 02, 2010 - 13:23

    Let them kill all the Caribou they want. Then it's only a matter of time until their major food supply is gone. It's Darwinism at its best if you ask me.

  • cam
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Look at that picture and the story. I totally agree with the Darwinism commentor. Activists only close loopholes making it harder for those looking for a better way.

    We do not have a government, we have a legal dictatorship. Plantation owners if you will

  • Lloyd
    July 02, 2010 - 13:22

    Angela, in today's world there are two ways to be genetically related. One is via a 'test tube'. I'm going to bet that's not the case with these caribou!
    Other than being one form of twins, none of us are considered 'identical'.

  • Manuel
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Well i'll say it again. Im half indian and I am completely ashamed to say it. Makes me sick to think about it. If i could cut it out there would be a chunk in the garbage in 5 mins.
    These so called indians are nothing more then selfish and greedy people who have no respect for you and I as humans or our way of life as well as our laws. they show this by doing what they have just done. Cross provincial borders armed with the intent to wipe out a caribou herd deemed endangered. Thats nothing more then selfish and ignorant to all around them. We deserve this and you cant tell us different.
    So now what the government, who says there isnt 2 different laws for whites and indians tells us they werent arrested because there were 200 of them. This is what they counted on. You say you dont want to put anyone in harms way yet you send troops to a country where the people they are protecting are slaughtering them.
    You have numerous agencies at your disposal as well as arms and armoured vechiles and you say it is to dangerous to face a few indians. I would bet my life if they had 200 armed police heading their way they wouldnt put up much of a fight.
    So let this be a lesson to all you WHITE poachers. Hunt in the hundreds so as not to be bothered by your government.

  • Political Watcher
    July 02, 2010 - 13:21

    Not two standards? Then why were two wildlife officer fired for not returning Innu rifles fast enough the last time they were caught illegally hunting.
    Sufficient Evidence: have a look at the photo that is heading up the story.
    They are QUEBEC INNU and not Labrador Innu therefore are entitled to nothing only a cozy jail cell.
    I am sick of these people claiming all land is theirs; we live here as well and have just as much right to be here as them.
    This was a slaughter and nothing else, I am sure that their forefathers would not have undertaken such a barberic act.

  • Robert
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    Nobody will be charged.
    Government is happy enough to appear to be concerned, talk it up in the media, and like everthing else they promise - do nothing.
    It works and the voters support it - why would they do it any other way?

  • briny69
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    just abunch of innu looking for another handout.same old,same old.get a job

  • Dont See It
    July 02, 2010 - 13:20

    You got no worries, they wont be charged. These people can get away with anything. Wait and see.

  • CB
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    If the government is involved, you can be certain there's more to this than meets the eye. Has anyone any knowledge of the 18,000+ flights, per year of low-level jet fighter training that is conducted directly over the Red Wine herd? I just read an interesting article on how it was affecting the Red Wine caribou back in 1996...population 700.
    The report was concerned that the low-level jet noise caused the animals to become startled enough to hinder reproductive behavior, reduce milk production, cause stillborns and miscarriages...hmmmmm

  • Chief Smokem
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    'We are not criminals, we do what we have to do to protect our rights,' Chief Real McKenzie of Matimekush-Lac John, Que., told The Labradorian. HEY CHIEF, that's not protecting your rights. That's breaking the law. If you want the law changed so that it is your right to wipe out endangered species during closed seasons outside your jurisdiction and province, then go to court and argue your point and wait until you win. Otherwise, public opinion will be (and now is) harsh against you and your gang of law-breaking criminals.

  • Rich
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    So let me count......this is 3 different sets of laws now.
    1 - for the cops and politicians
    2 - For the natives of our great land
    3 - for you and me, the average taxpayer. Who financially support all of the above.
    Pathetic.

  • KD
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    Mr Collins is full of himself to try and tell the remainder of us labradorians there is no such thing as two justice systems just see how he would react if one hundred and fifty men women aand children from lab west area went to the zone and killed endangered animals we would all be in jail now. That gives me an idea maybe should get one hundred and fifty people go and finish off the remainder of the red wine herd then we will see for if there is indeed two justice systems. Anyone want to sign up.

  • Heather
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    It's time for aboriginals to get over the sense of entitlement - 'white' man has been here over a thousand years. I'd like to see what would happen if the same thing happend in Quebec. They should be locked up for years and have every asset seized.

  • ROTTEDNL
    July 02, 2010 - 13:19

    So far as I'm concerned, whatever our great-great-great-grandfathers did once upon a time to the natives in our area has been paid in full and then some. Bottom line is that they should be treated no better than any of the rest of Canada. to coina phrase; At least in the case of these hunters, we should stop spoiling the child and get the rod out.

  • PAUL
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    LAST SUMMER DFO WERE BOARDING INSHORE BOATS WITH A TURKEY BASTER TAKING SAMPLES FROM BILGE WATER AS EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE A CLAIM AGAINST ILLEGAL COD FISHING.THESE PHOTOS SHOW AMPLE EVIDENCE TO FILL A BASTER.

  • GS
    July 02, 2010 - 13:18

    I agree with Barry B, where is PETA, Greenpeace and all the other animal rights groups in all of this. Too busy badgering the actual taxpaying fishermen for hunting a few seals. This is a protest hunt right?

  • BOB
    July 02, 2010 - 13:17

    remember the BEOTHUCKS. i have worked all over canada except quebec but it is all the same with the indians, it's giveme, giveme, giveme it's all mine and you owe me whiteman!

  • Roscoe
    July 02, 2010 - 13:16

    Shame on the Innu and the provincial and federal governments! Charge these people as Canadian citizens breaking the law. Screw the double standard!

  • show me the money
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    This bunch of heathens are after one thing and one thing only.....CASH. They want in on the lucrative deal that the Newfoundland Labrador government reached with the Labrador Innu. They could care less about the caribou, their ancestors are probably rolling in their graves.

  • Harold
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    what a JOKE...Nothing will be done just like nothing was done last year....Let's get 150 non innu hunters and go kill 250 moose, betcha the action taken by government will be differant....What a joke, send in the armed forces and take control

  • Off the Cuff
    July 02, 2010 - 13:15

    Our Government can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk, this picture is an embarrassment to our Province, they are laughing at the newfies.

  • Colin
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    Lets gather 200 buddies together and have a big cod jigging party out in conception bay. Its our 'right' to fish sure isn't it?? That'll work out just swell. I would say I'd be cuffed and fingerprinted before we could line up a group photo.

  • derek
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    When is it that us, mainland Newfoundlanders are headin across to Quebec and do some fishing and hunting of our own? See how fast the Fed's jump in then...

  • st john's native
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    I think they should be punished. It is about time that we were all treated equally and stop making exceptions for these people. They slaughtered these animals

  • Ashamed to be Innu
    July 02, 2010 - 13:14

    ECOLOGICAL TERRORISTS - that's all these people are. And our government is completely IMPOTENT.

  • b
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    A group heathens with a sense of entitlement.

  • AR
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Note that the headline states Quebec Innu hunters ' may ' be charged. Not ' will ', but ' may '. What these hunters did was illegal and therefore against the law, but, as usual, Government won't have the gonads to do anything about it. Government will twist itself inside out trying to find a reason not to press charges against the Innu. Felix Collins says action would have been taken last week if they were dealing with a dozen or so hunters instead of 200. Who does he think he's kidding?
    The Gov't. would try to arrest two dozen armed Innu hunters ? Yeah, right. Well, the ball is in your court now, Mr. Collins, so what are you going to do ? The public, the Gov't. and the Innu already have the answer to that. Nothing will be done. Not one Innu will be arrested and not $1.00 in fines will be paid. Might as well chalk another one up for the Innu.

  • W
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    If the Quebec Innu were stopping (in stead of hunting caribou)construction of the Lower CHurchill Hydro Facility (to be built in the future), the govt would not have used surveillance to lay charges after the fact. The govt would have had the cops/ military in there right away.

    Glad to see the Innu preseving their culture of blackmailing the whiteman for decades.

  • Fed up
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Minister
    Get off your arse and charge these people.we give them front page coverage.What a Joke .Its time for action or resign minister.You were put in Government to represent the People of this province ,well do it .We are sick and tired of people doing what they feel is their right .Well we want our rights protected

  • fintip
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    Those posting comments on this story have every right to be outraged. The
    Quebec Innu are brazenly violating the laws of this province. It is also apparent that their motives have little to do with protecting aboriginal hunting rights as claimed by Chief McKenzie. Rather it is to back up their claim for compensation resulting from industrial activity in Labrador and especially development of the Lower Churchill. They argue that they should have been included in the New Dawn Agreement with Labrador Innu. It is also obvious that their protest slaughter of an endangered herd has the tacit if not overt support of the Quebec government. Labrador natives have never been included in land claim settlements in Quebec despite the fact that their traditional hunting grounds and migratory patterns extend well into that province. Irrespective the merits of their case, the Quebec Innu have no right to decimate an entire herd. Federal and provincial police forces must find a way to bring them to justice - the same justice and the same penalties that the rest of us would face. If they fail to do so, they open the law to ridicule with the result that many more non-natives will feel they are entitled to do the same.
    One final point. Nothing, absolutely nothing, about the behaviour of the Quebec Innu justifies the vile, racist, bigotted remarks evidenced in this forum.

  • peter
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    We kill their ancestors and destroy their culture the same way we are destroying the earth. I'd be pissed off too.

  • AR
    July 02, 2010 - 13:13

    It's so obvious that the Gov't. is scared $hitless of the Innu. The Gov't. acted like stormtroopers recently when it suspended two Conservation Officers for not returning a seized vehicle to the Innu post haste. It's a wonder the Officers were not ordered to attend an Innu healing circle as punishment for not realizing that their enforcement authority does not extend to the Innu. Where's the heavy hand of the Gov't. now ? 200 Innu have clearly broken the law and are smacking their ar$es in the face of the Gov't. As usual, the Gov't. will turtle like a crowd of wimps. Not one Innu will be arrested and not one Innu will be fined, thanks to gutless politicians who can only talk the talk.

  • Daniel
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    When hunters use high powered rifles, ski-doos, atvs and 4x4 trucks to kill 250 defenceless animals it is not called a hunt . It is called a slaughter of NL natural resources. And when they trespass to do it then that is called raping the land. The sad part is that they will get away with it.

  • Eanie
    July 02, 2010 - 13:12

    There's not a whole heck of a lot of NL resourses that we HAVE NOT given to Quebec. What's next? They're getting hydroelectric power dirt cheap and selling it for a fortune. Maybe we should put a hefty price on each caribou/seal/moose/fox that they take from NL. And, personally, I think they're killing these animals for the sake of killing them - not to be put to good use.

  • J
    July 02, 2010 - 13:11

    OMG, heaven forbit some hurt the feelings of the Innu by not arresting them.

    Just like the OPP and Caledonia it is becoming quite apparent that there are two sets of laws in this country.

    The prescendent will be set if the government does nothing.

  • Rotted
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Put everyone of them in jail, cut off all their social benefits like baby bonues, welfare, EI etc...If they want to do there own thing then they can become a third World Nation on there own.

  • Watcher
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Listen, we were all aboriginal somwhere at some place in time but I guess there's a time limit on all this intitlement.

    My forefathers were possibly native Picts from the British Isles... where's my compensation check for the pain and suffering caused by the Saxons, the Normans, and the Vikings? When do I get my forefather's hunting grounds back (I believe they were right around downtown London)?

    The native people of this country (or any other country for that matter) need to integrate into our society. History is full of examples... it's just the way of the world.

  • Nasty
    July 02, 2010 - 13:10

    Peter, while I agree in principal with your comment, I must disagree with the action they have taken. The Native people of this country once were caretakers of the land. To abuse this duty by wholesale slaughter in this fashion takes any credibility from their cause. They do have the right to harvest what they see fit for food, but to do so at this scale is just wrong. As with all hunting and fishing, we need to do so with moderation and forward thinking. Ask those in the fishing industry what happens when you take more then what can be reproduced. In the end we all suffer.

  • Lloyd
    July 02, 2010 - 13:09

    Johnson said the two herds do not interbreed and have unique behavioural, morphological and genetic differences.
    Odd. Two years ago at a Climate Change conference at NorthWest River I am certain I heard a biologist make the statement that all the herds in Labrador were genetically related.

    As for the hunters, well, since they were protesting (in part) and since the clearly weren't trying to hide anything and since there are pictures, why not ask them to identify themselves. I doubt very much if they'd have a problem with that at all.
    There has to be a solution and if government can't manage it politically then it needs to be done in a court of law. And we know the government can't, or at least won't settle it politically.
    And, oh yes, there is already precedent right here in Labrador for this kind of situation.

  • WillowB
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    Same old story. The Govt is going to do big fat NOTHING because it's a native issue. What would happen if a bunch of hunters (non native) did the same on the Island, I don't think they would be treated the same. The Govt should hang their heads in shame; of course there are two standards and everybody knows it.

  • Funny
    July 02, 2010 - 13:08

    The Quebec Innu hunting caribou in Labrador: Free
    The Quebec Innu standing around laughing while there Pictures are taken: Free
    The Federal and Provincial Governments standing around and not doing nothing: Priceless!!!

    Guys, there's times like this that makes me embarrassed to be Canadian. If Law enforcement officials and Government are afraid to stand up to these people, why don't we, the people of Newfoundland and Labrador do something about it.

  • VRP
    July 01, 2010 - 20:25

    Killing all those animals with the traditional bow and arrow, skinning them with the traditional stone knife, lugging them all the way home on the traditional travois... Can't someone provide them with a traditional snowmobile? I understand the Province has already provided a traditional helicopter to take a sick hunter to a traditional hospital. I have a feeling they're laughing all the way to the traditional bank, as enough of us are still fooled by their very modern extortion racket to allow them to get away with almost anything.

  • steve
    July 01, 2010 - 20:25

    I agree with P, however, the Innu eat more Mary Brown's, Big Macs and Pizzas than they do caribou. They will survive because there will never be a government with the 'gonads' to stand up to these criminals.

    To Peter, they lost the fight, move on.

  • Bern
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    why would anyone expect a sensible answer about this isue, when we have a IDIOT running the Justice Dept.
    Minister Blunderdale is no better.

  • wayne
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    If the gutless polititions are not prepared to do anything about it since there are no votes to be gained, let them go ahead and clean them all up. We have a bunch of gutless wonders for leaders (that is the ones that are not in crow bar hotel

  • Old Man Winter
    July 01, 2010 - 20:24

    Absolutely disgusted! I tend to hold the values of natives/aboriginals quite high, but this is an absolute mockery of being one with nature. Shameful!

  • Kelly
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    So much for the old adage wise aboriginal. This is just plain stupid and these people are thumbing their noses at the law because they know they can't (won't) be prosecuted. Their sense of entitlement is sad and ridiculous. I can't believe they can (will) get away with this!

  • David
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    Innu may be charged. Santa retained as defense counsel.

  • Edmund
    July 01, 2010 - 20:23

    What do you expect from a bunch of Quebec natives. They simply do what they want, laughing at our enforcement people and living by their own set of rules. If you or I did this we would have been in jail long ago. They should have been left in the woods to live because all they do now is blame us for changing their way of life. Shame on the Federal & Provincial Governments for creating this huge problem we now have with them and other aboriginal groups. They now think they own & control the country again and are getting away with breaking the laws of the land whenever they want to, not only in Labrador but everywhere. If they feel threatened with arrest and jail thay will simply put up another roadblock armed with weapons and challenge our laws until we give in to them again. What a waste of our money and resources. It is time for the government to take a stand and deal with these criminals with force. Maybe a shoot out at the OK Corral is what is needed!!!!!!!!!!

  • Angela
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Lloyd from Labrador, nL writes: 'Two years ago at a Climate Change conference at NorthWest River I am certain I heard a biologist make the statement that all the herds in Labrador were genetically related.' Related yes, identical no. This is even explained in the article. Once they are extinct that's it.

    Imagine, we don't have a police force in Canada strong enough to be able to deal with this type of mass crime. This is gangland activity. The result will be the extinction of a species (a group which is reproductively isolated from other such groups).

    Funny how we can send 5,000 RCMP and 3,000 armed forced to the Vancouver Winter Games for security though.

    There is no will in our government to enforce laws with these lawless bunch of banchees.

    So basically, all it takes is about 150 hunters with high-powered rifles to keep the government at bay. Very interesting. Not something you want a terrorist group to know about.

  • Jan
    July 01, 2010 - 20:22

    Savages. It's as simple as that. I'm sick and tired of people who feel entitled . I think it's time the white man of this day and age stop paying for decades of entitlement. We should all have the same rights. The white man have lived here for many years too. But what am I entitled to? Nothing. Think we can get away with fishing cod? Not likely. My ancestors did that for years too, yet I don't get any benefits. It's time to put an end to this entitlement. How many more years are we going to put up with it?

  • b
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    Erikia White from Wallaceburg, Ontario writes: I think that the Government should lay off these people. The 250 caribou will feed 250 families for at least two months. It's not like they are shot for trophies. You do not see the native peoples of Candad hanging a head of their catch on their living room walls. Maybe if the government did not take all the lands of the Native peoples they would not have to flow into other areas to hunt. You do not like it go back to your own countries and try to live.

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    NEWS FLASH for you Erikia White from Wallaceburg, Ontario, I was BORN here, this IS MY country also you pompass a$$.

    I have every right to protest this criminal behaviour.

    I have every right to expect that criminal behaviour will be delt with by the authorities.

    We live in a country of laws, if I break the law I can expect consequences, and I expect consequences for these criminals as well.

  • frank
    July 01, 2010 - 20:21

    the army should be sent in to remove everything the white man has provided and that means everything. leave them underwear only and then remove them from the goverment teat and never speak to them again. they want one foot in the white mans world and with that comes respect for those who provide for them.when they have to go back to ancient ways. with no guns or snow machines or cleman stoves they will not be out of the land and the problem is solved. lets not make things easy.

  • don
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    Seen a movie where a group of people hunted and ate all the game in the area. They turned to Cannabalism. I guess that what the government is waiting to happen.

  • steve
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    What's this....Sqaw Valley?

  • Val
    July 01, 2010 - 20:20

    Aren't these the same people who are supposedly concerned with the land and treating it with respect... certainly doesn't look like it from this picture! I thought they also only hunted what they needed to feed their families, this hunt seems like it was done to prove a point and not for nutritional need.

  • Francis
    July 01, 2010 - 20:19

    Pam Anderson,Mccartney and Bardot or Greenwar will not go near this one. No donations or money to be made. They would probably be shot helicoptering into this site.

  • Mike
    July 01, 2010 - 20:18

    i think Minister Collins should go have a talk to Minister and acting Premier Dunderdale. She believes that there are two standards. I find it incredible that the Minister of Justice now says that people caugt hunting in closed areas will have vehicles and gear forfeited...why...so that Minister Dunderdale can then order the items returned.

  • Modern Innu
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    P from Newfoundland writes: Let them kill all the Caribou they want. Then it's only a matter of time until their major food supply is gone. It's Darwinism at its best if you ask me.
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    Don't kid yourself, these Innu eat the same as you and I , drive the same vehicles, live in the same houses.

    The lifestyles of these Innu in now way or manner resemble the lifestyles of their forefathers.

  • Concerned
    July 01, 2010 - 20:17

    These people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They may be aboriginal, but they are also criminal. We pay for everything they have including the snow machines they used to transport the caribou back to Quebec. It's time for the taxpayers of this country to stand up to this blatant extortion from these groups and say no more. We have bent over backwards to try to help them out by funding them in every way possible and giving them great portions of this land but instead they destroy what they are given and expect more as their right, they abuse nature and expect no repercussions from the government who is trying to protect the environment and all that exists within it. This is all about greed and has absolutely nothing to do with native ways or culture. Their forefathers would never have abused the bounty provided in the way these criminals have done. Aboriginal peoples lived off the land and as shown in many of their legends and stories had great respect for the environment - the animals that fed them and the gifts provided by Mother Nature. This group of thugs has no respect for anything and their motto is gimme, gimme, gimme.

  • Frank
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    Collins you are totally wrong when you say there is not two standards, one for white and for Innu. You also state charges may be laid with sufficient proof....I beleive the photo attached is proof enough. If a white man took a protected caribou in a no hunt zone, he would be in jail today, no questions asked. In addition, everything with him at the time (truck, gun, snowmobile etc.) would be forfeitted to the crown.

  • Erikia
    July 01, 2010 - 20:16

    I think that the Government should lay off these people. The 250 caribou will feed 250 families for at least two months. It's not like they are shot for trophies. You do not see the native peoples of Candad hanging a head of their catch on their living room walls. Maybe if the government did not take all the lands of the Native peoples they would not have to flow into other areas to hunt. You do not like it go back to your own countries and try to live.

  • Another
    July 01, 2010 - 20:15

    Too late to do anything now. How can anyone prove a thing once the people and harvest have left the province? The photo's do not show an individual identified as pulling the trigger now do they? They say 200 armed people were a danger, well send in 2000 armed soldiers. Thats what they get paid for. Just another failed attempt by the Williams Government to add to the list.

  • Bryce
    July 01, 2010 - 20:14

    Don't loose any sleep boys.It's only 250 caribou.No Provincial or Federal government is going to rattle any chains in Quebec. ....SOVEREIGN NATION right As for the Quebec Innu hunters,keep up the slaughter,double the quota next year and in no time at all when you need meat you can always head down to McDonald's to get a Big Mac

  • R
    July 01, 2010 - 20:12

    To further Daniel Breen's comment and what others here have said; I don't think their ancestors used rifles, pickups, ski-doos, etc to hunt! If they want to do an ancestrial hunt they should be using bow&arrow, snowshoes, dog team, etc like their ancestors used...

    Why weren't NL Innu leaders and their peoples engaged in trying to stop this slaugh, oh I mean hunt????

    It shows what they really care about; A few caribou or the economic spin-offs from the Lower Churchill or such???

  • SKP
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    I think I'm going to be sick... Why publish this photo?!?! I know that the telegram is trying to make a point and I'm sure that people are going to be outraged... however to show all thoes dead animals....

    The Innu/Quebec Innu need to smarten up! 250 animals from a heard of an endangered animal!!! Seriously?!? Just because you have an aboriginal right doesn't mean that it's justified in killing so many. They are going to hunt them until there is no more and then what are they going to do besides p*ss and moan and expect the government to do something then.... It's not right and something need to be done to stop this!!!!

  • barry
    July 01, 2010 - 20:11

    Yes charge them . What give's them the right . If any other person done this they would go to jail. By the way were is PETA in all this.I gess caribou are not as cute . Not much for them to do . May be there afraid of the Innu . Wake up Minister Collin's.

  • Dave
    July 01, 2010 - 20:10

    Early last week, the media reported a list of fines and sentences for people caught poaching around the island over the last number of months. One guy was fined something like $5000 and lost his boat and other gear he had with him at the time. He was found in possession of one Atlantic salmon.

    I'm not saying the salmon poacher shouldn't have been fined but this was published on the same day we were watching these 'hunters' snubbing their noses at cameras with 100 dead caribou in the foreground.

  • Jo
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    I thought native canadians were people of the land.. these greedy, lazy sons of beeotches have no respect for nature whatsoever. They want to take and take until it's all gone just because they feel it's their right to do so. They're spoiled rotten children, plain and simple...

  • up4discussion
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    One word...OUTRAGE!

  • member of the 20%
    July 01, 2010 - 20:09

    At the end of the day, after months of investigations, thousands of dollars spent, the result will be the same as last year when Minister Thunderdale was going to prosecute. NOTHING will be done. EVER. Reprimands to conservation officers, embarassment to the government and fines will be levied to white poachers; natives are exempt. Oh, wait now, they might be sentenced to a healing circle where they can plan the next move. Cutting off all sources of government funding would be a good place to start.

  • CB
    July 01, 2010 - 20:08

    These comments are SICKENING to me and goes to show how very little any of you know about the native culture and people. Given the opportunity I am quite sure none of you would invest any of your precious time to learn some truth or facts about the whole history..... Goes to show how narrow minded and uneducated the population is.
    Absolutely shameful

  • P
    July 01, 2010 - 20:07

    Let them kill all the Caribou they want. Then it's only a matter of time until their major food supply is gone. It's Darwinism at its best if you ask me.

  • cam
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    Look at that picture and the story. I totally agree with the Darwinism commentor. Activists only close loopholes making it harder for those looking for a better way.

    We do not have a government, we have a legal dictatorship. Plantation owners if you will

  • Lloyd
    July 01, 2010 - 20:06

    Angela, in today's world there are two ways to be genetically related. One is via a 'test tube'. I'm going to bet that's not the case with these caribou!
    Other than being one form of twins, none of us are considered 'identical'.

  • Manuel
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    Well i'll say it again. Im half indian and I am completely ashamed to say it. Makes me sick to think about it. If i could cut it out there would be a chunk in the garbage in 5 mins.
    These so called indians are nothing more then selfish and greedy people who have no respect for you and I as humans or our way of life as well as our laws. they show this by doing what they have just done. Cross provincial borders armed with the intent to wipe out a caribou herd deemed endangered. Thats nothing more then selfish and ignorant to all around them. We deserve this and you cant tell us different.
    So now what the government, who says there isnt 2 different laws for whites and indians tells us they werent arrested because there were 200 of them. This is what they counted on. You say you dont want to put anyone in harms way yet you send troops to a country where the people they are protecting are slaughtering them.
    You have numerous agencies at your disposal as well as arms and armoured vechiles and you say it is to dangerous to face a few indians. I would bet my life if they had 200 armed police heading their way they wouldnt put up much of a fight.
    So let this be a lesson to all you WHITE poachers. Hunt in the hundreds so as not to be bothered by your government.

  • Political Watcher
    July 01, 2010 - 20:05

    Not two standards? Then why were two wildlife officer fired for not returning Innu rifles fast enough the last time they were caught illegally hunting.
    Sufficient Evidence: have a look at the photo that is heading up the story.
    They are QUEBEC INNU and not Labrador Innu therefore are entitled to nothing only a cozy jail cell.
    I am sick of these people claiming all land is theirs; we live here as well and have just as much right to be here as them.
    This was a slaughter and nothing else, I am sure that their forefathers would not have undertaken such a barberic act.

  • Robert
    July 01, 2010 - 20:04

    Nobody will be charged.
    Government is happy enough to appear to be concerned, talk it up in the media, and like everthing else they promise - do nothing.
    It works and the voters support it - why would they do it any other way?

  • briny69
    July 01, 2010 - 20:03

    just abunch of innu looking for another handout.same old,same old.get a job

  • Dont See It
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    You got no worries, they wont be charged. These people can get away with anything. Wait and see.

  • CB
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    If the government is involved, you can be certain there's more to this than meets the eye. Has anyone any knowledge of the 18,000+ flights, per year of low-level jet fighter training that is conducted directly over the Red Wine herd? I just read an interesting article on how it was affecting the Red Wine caribou back in 1996...population 700.
    The report was concerned that the low-level jet noise caused the animals to become startled enough to hinder reproductive behavior, reduce milk production, cause stillborns and miscarriages...hmmmmm

  • Chief Smokem
    July 01, 2010 - 20:02

    'We are not criminals, we do what we have to do to protect our rights,' Chief Real McKenzie of Matimekush-Lac John, Que., told The Labradorian. HEY CHIEF, that's not protecting your rights. That's breaking the law. If you want the law changed so that it is your right to wipe out endangered species during closed seasons outside your jurisdiction and province, then go to court and argue your point and wait until you win. Otherwise, public opinion will be (and now is) harsh against you and your gang of law-breaking criminals.

  • Rich
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    So let me count......this is 3 different sets of laws now.
    1 - for the cops and politicians
    2 - For the natives of our great land
    3 - for you and me, the average taxpayer. Who financially support all of the above.
    Pathetic.

  • KD
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    Mr Collins is full of himself to try and tell the remainder of us labradorians there is no such thing as two justice systems just see how he would react if one hundred and fifty men women aand children from lab west area went to the zone and killed endangered animals we would all be in jail now. That gives me an idea maybe should get one hundred and fifty people go and finish off the remainder of the red wine herd then we will see for if there is indeed two justice systems. Anyone want to sign up.

  • Heather
    July 01, 2010 - 20:01

    It's time for aboriginals to get over the sense of entitlement - 'white' man has been here over a thousand years. I'd like to see what would happen if the same thing happend in Quebec. They should be locked up for years and have every asset seized.

  • ROTTEDNL
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    So far as I'm concerned, whatever our great-great-great-grandfathers did once upon a time to the natives in our area has been paid in full and then some. Bottom line is that they should be treated no better than any of the rest of Canada. to coina phrase; At least in the case of these hunters, we should stop spoiling the child and get the rod out.

  • PAUL
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    LAST SUMMER DFO WERE BOARDING INSHORE BOATS WITH A TURKEY BASTER TAKING SAMPLES FROM BILGE WATER AS EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE A CLAIM AGAINST ILLEGAL COD FISHING.THESE PHOTOS SHOW AMPLE EVIDENCE TO FILL A BASTER.

  • GS
    July 01, 2010 - 20:00

    I agree with Barry B, where is PETA, Greenpeace and all the other animal rights groups in all of this. Too busy badgering the actual taxpaying fishermen for hunting a few seals. This is a protest hunt right?

  • BOB
    July 01, 2010 - 19:57

    remember the BEOTHUCKS. i have worked all over canada except quebec but it is all the same with the indians, it's giveme, giveme, giveme it's all mine and you owe me whiteman!

  • Roscoe
    July 01, 2010 - 19:56

    Shame on the Innu and the provincial and federal governments! Charge these people as Canadian citizens breaking the law. Screw the double standard!

  • show me the money
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    This bunch of heathens are after one thing and one thing only.....CASH. They want in on the lucrative deal that the Newfoundland Labrador government reached with the Labrador Innu. They could care less about the caribou, their ancestors are probably rolling in their graves.

  • Harold
    July 01, 2010 - 19:55

    what a JOKE...Nothing will be done just like nothing was done last year....Let's get 150 non innu hunters and go kill 250 moose, betcha the action taken by government will be differant....What a joke, send in the armed forces and take control

  • Off the Cuff
    July 01, 2010 - 19:54

    Our Government can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk, this picture is an embarrassment to our Province, they are laughing at the newfies.

  • Colin
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    Lets gather 200 buddies together and have a big cod jigging party out in conception bay. Its our 'right' to fish sure isn't it?? That'll work out just swell. I would say I'd be cuffed and fingerprinted before we could line up a group photo.

  • derek
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    When is it that us, mainland Newfoundlanders are headin across to Quebec and do some fishing and hunting of our own? See how fast the Fed's jump in then...

  • st john's native
    July 01, 2010 - 19:53

    I think they should be punished. It is about time that we were all treated equally and stop making exceptions for these people. They slaughtered these animals

  • Ashamed to be Innu
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    ECOLOGICAL TERRORISTS - that's all these people are. And our government is completely IMPOTENT.

  • b
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    A group heathens with a sense of entitlement.

  • AR
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    Note that the headline states Quebec Innu hunters ' may ' be charged. Not ' will ', but ' may '. What these hunters did was illegal and therefore against the law, but, as usual, Government won't have the gonads to do anything about it. Government will twist itself inside out trying to find a reason not to press charges against the Innu. Felix Collins says action would have been taken last week if they were dealing with a dozen or so hunters instead of 200. Who does he think he's kidding?
    The Gov't. would try to arrest two dozen armed Innu hunters ? Yeah, right. Well, the ball is in your court now, Mr. Collins, so what are you going to do ? The public, the Gov't. and the Innu already have the answer to that. Nothing will be done. Not one Innu will be arrested and not $1.00 in fines will be paid. Might as well chalk another one up for the Innu.

  • W
    July 01, 2010 - 19:52

    If the Quebec Innu were stopping (in stead of hunting caribou)construction of the Lower CHurchill Hydro Facility (to be built in the future), the govt would not have used surveillance to lay charges after the fact. The govt would have had the cops/ military in there right away.

    Glad to see the Innu preseving their culture of blackmailing the whiteman for decades.

  • Fed up
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    Minister
    Get off your arse and charge these people.we give them front page coverage.What a Joke .Its time for action or resign minister.You were put in Government to represent the People of this province ,well do it .We are sick and tired of people doing what they feel is their right .Well we want our rights protected

  • fintip
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    Those posting comments on this story have every right to be outraged. The
    Quebec Innu are brazenly violating the laws of this province. It is also apparent that their motives have little to do with protecting aboriginal hunting rights as claimed by Chief McKenzie. Rather it is to back up their claim for compensation resulting from industrial activity in Labrador and especially development of the Lower Churchill. They argue that they should have been included in the New Dawn Agreement with Labrador Innu. It is also obvious that their protest slaughter of an endangered herd has the tacit if not overt support of the Quebec government. Labrador natives have never been included in land claim settlements in Quebec despite the fact that their traditional hunting grounds and migratory patterns extend well into that province. Irrespective the merits of their case, the Quebec Innu have no right to decimate an entire herd. Federal and provincial police forces must find a way to bring them to justice - the same justice and the same penalties that the rest of us would face. If they fail to do so, they open the law to ridicule with the result that many more non-natives will feel they are entitled to do the same.
    One final point. Nothing, absolutely nothing, about the behaviour of the Quebec Innu justifies the vile, racist, bigotted remarks evidenced in this forum.

  • peter
    July 01, 2010 - 19:51

    We kill their ancestors and destroy their culture the same way we are destroying the earth. I'd be pissed off too.

  • AR
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    It's so obvious that the Gov't. is scared $hitless of the Innu. The Gov't. acted like stormtroopers recently when it suspended two Conservation Officers for not returning a seized vehicle to the Innu post haste. It's a wonder the Officers were not ordered to attend an Innu healing circle as punishment for not realizing that their enforcement authority does not extend to the Innu. Where's the heavy hand of the Gov't. now ? 200 Innu have clearly broken the law and are smacking their ar$es in the face of the Gov't. As usual, the Gov't. will turtle like a crowd of wimps. Not one Innu will be arrested and not one Innu will be fined, thanks to gutless politicians who can only talk the talk.

  • Daniel
    July 01, 2010 - 19:50

    When hunters use high powered rifles, ski-doos, atvs and 4x4 trucks to kill 250 defenceless animals it is not called a hunt . It is called a slaughter of NL natural resources. And when they trespass to do it then that is called raping the land. The sad part is that they will get away with it.

  • Eanie
    July 01, 2010 - 19:49

    There's not a whole heck of a lot of NL resourses that we HAVE NOT given to Quebec. What's next? They're getting hydroelectric power dirt cheap and selling it for a fortune. Maybe we should put a hefty price on each caribou/seal/moose/fox that they take from NL. And, personally, I think they're killing these animals for the sake of killing them - not to be put to good use.

  • J
    July 01, 2010 - 19:48

    OMG, heaven forbit some hurt the feelings of the Innu by not arresting them.

    Just like the OPP and Caledonia it is becoming quite apparent that there are two sets of laws in this country.

    The prescendent will be set if the government does nothing.

  • Rotted
    July 01, 2010 - 19:47

    Put everyone of them in jail, cut off all their social benefits like baby bonues, welfare, EI etc...If they want to do there own thing then they can become a third World Nation on there own.

  • Watcher
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    Listen, we were all aboriginal somwhere at some place in time but I guess there's a time limit on all this intitlement.

    My forefathers were possibly native Picts from the British Isles... where's my compensation check for the pain and suffering caused by the Saxons, the Normans, and the Vikings? When do I get my forefather's hunting grounds back (I believe they were right around downtown London)?

    The native people of this country (or any other country for that matter) need to integrate into our society. History is full of examples... it's just the way of the world.

  • Nasty
    July 01, 2010 - 19:46

    Peter, while I agree in principal with your comment, I must disagree with the action they have taken. The Native people of this country once were caretakers of the land. To abuse this duty by wholesale slaughter in this fashion takes any credibility from their cause. They do have the right to harvest what they see fit for food, but to do so at this scale is just wrong. As with all hunting and fishing, we need to do so with moderation and forward thinking. Ask those in the fishing industry what happens when you take more then what can be reproduced. In the end we all suffer.

  • Lloyd
    July 01, 2010 - 19:44

    Johnson said the two herds do not interbreed and have unique behavioural, morphological and genetic differences.
    Odd. Two years ago at a Climate Change conference at NorthWest River I am certain I heard a biologist make the statement that all the herds in Labrador were genetically related.

    As for the hunters, well, since they were protesting (in part) and since the clearly weren't trying to hide anything and since there are pictures, why not ask them to identify themselves. I doubt very much if they'd have a problem with that at all.
    There has to be a solution and if government can't manage it politically then it needs to be done in a court of law. And we know the government can't, or at least won't settle it politically.
    And, oh yes, there is already precedent right here in Labrador for this kind of situation.

  • WillowB
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    Same old story. The Govt is going to do big fat NOTHING because it's a native issue. What would happen if a bunch of hunters (non native) did the same on the Island, I don't think they would be treated the same. The Govt should hang their heads in shame; of course there are two standards and everybody knows it.

  • Funny
    July 01, 2010 - 19:43

    The Quebec Innu hunting caribou in Labrador: Free
    The Quebec Innu standing around laughing while there Pictures are taken: Free
    The Federal and Provincial Governments standing around and not doing nothing: Priceless!!!

    Guys, there's times like this that makes me embarrassed to be Canadian. If Law enforcement officials and Government are afraid to stand up to these people, why don't we, the people of Newfoundland and Labrador do something about it.