The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary is advising motorists intending to travel on Kenmount Road to use an alternate route, if possible.
Rain buildup is making driving conditions dangerous, especially in the right-hand land heading east.
Police warn of dangerous water buildup on Kenmount Road
City workers barricade the area on Kenmount Road where flooding has occurred. Photo by Joe Gibbons/The Telegram
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April 20, 2010
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- Bones
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:59:36
That area was always a bog, with a raised road passing through it (Kenmount Road) and culverts underneath the road to allow the water to balance on both sides of the divided bog. Ever wonder why it was always a bog ? The answer is: the lay of the land and the substrate beneath it channel, collect and hold water. The only thing which could thrive there with so much stagnant water was... you guessed it, a bog. Now that we've replaced the bog with parking lots and buildings, do you think the clouds would skip by that section of hilltop to rain on ? The answer: no, the clouds still dump rain on that hilltop and the rain is still channeled, collected and held up there, in what is essentially a highland flood plain. The lay of the land hasn't changed. The substrate hasn't changed. There will always be flooding problems up there, and they will get worse as houses are built on the backfilled bogs. Look at it, it's a big catch basin up there. The fact an established bog was there should have been plenty enough to tell you water doesn't drain from that area naturally.
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- Hans
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:59:34
We all know how filthy any area is where construction is taking place. They let their tyvek, plastic and cardboard packaging, coffee cups and food trays, tags and plastic bags blow down the street without any attempt whatsoever to secure it from blowing in the wind. It is like this in every single construction area in this province without exception. Pure filth. Who do these workers think is going to come and clean it all up after them ? Once they drop it they think it disappears from the face of the earth. They don't care, it's not their backyard. The stuff can blow for miles and miles !
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- Jack
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:54:19
That build up never happened in yesteryear when there was a forest to soak it all up. Now there is pavement to catch it and flow it to the highway. It is only after this clear cutting and 'development' that we see this. Obviously, storm drainage wasn't properly conceived during the planning stages. It will only get worse as that area 'develops'. It's hard to get good anything these days.
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- Drunkmonkey
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:53:23
Looks good on the city as they were warned back in the seventies not to over develop this area as it contains huge bogs which is holding back all of that H2O,when all of these bogs are finally gone and replaced with concrete and pavement,then I quess this is only going to get worse in the near and fast approaching future.
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- mj
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:52:38
FYI..... That little bit of rain that the city got, was actually 55+ mm, in 24 hours. A bit of water build-up was not as shocking and dramatic as all of you are making it out to be. So what!! There was a bit of flooding on Kenmount Road.....I didn't think rain could turn so many men into big old cry-babies!!
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- Sean
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:47:08
The amount of debris and garbage blowing around this city is embarrassing. I still see people tossing fast food garbage out their car windows! Last week I drove down the Outer Ring Road near Stavanger Drive in a high wind and there was garbage from businesses, individuals, and construction blowing everywhere! I had to dodge a piece of 1 styrofoam that was lowing directly down the highway towards my car. That day and place was the worst I have ever seen but it is nearly the same all over the city. It is a disgrace! It's time for ALL of us to wake up and take some pride in this place!...not just those few who are environmentally conscious.
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- Brian
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:46:46
Paul Mackey on radio claiming drains not sufficient to carry water and culverts clogged with debris from businesses!!! Always got an excuse, major development in this area for past # of years, infastructure not adequate.
This a continuos problem, when did city crews last clean / clear these culverts?? When will city hall get it together!!!! Major route into city closed!!!!! -
- steveb
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:43:53
lets hope that the contractors that built all the houses done a decent job so the houses dont flood, but thats not likely.
Thats what happenes as a result of both building a house on bog and not having a sweet clue what your doing. -
- Jeff
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:39:02
These are public roads that are turning into hazards whenever there is a heavy rain, either from clogged or inadequate drainage, or from water filled ruts which leads to hydroplaning. Time for the responsible party, in this case the City of St. John's, to conduct a root cause investigation to determine why these hazards are constantly being created, and identify solutions to reduce the hazards. The motoring public are constantly being injured and killed as a result of these conditions, time for the responsible people to find responsible solutions.
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- member of the 20%
- - July 2, 2010 at 14:38:55
Pathetic. Imagine a so-called city that can't handle a few millimetres of rain. But, if you think back to its leadership in recent time....Rags Murphy; Shannie; Andy; Doc...visionaries? Pathetic! They wouldn't plan a successful retirement party.
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- Bones
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:47:08
That area was always a bog, with a raised road passing through it (Kenmount Road) and culverts underneath the road to allow the water to balance on both sides of the divided bog. Ever wonder why it was always a bog ? The answer is: the lay of the land and the substrate beneath it channel, collect and hold water. The only thing which could thrive there with so much stagnant water was... you guessed it, a bog. Now that we've replaced the bog with parking lots and buildings, do you think the clouds would skip by that section of hilltop to rain on ? The answer: no, the clouds still dump rain on that hilltop and the rain is still channeled, collected and held up there, in what is essentially a highland flood plain. The lay of the land hasn't changed. The substrate hasn't changed. There will always be flooding problems up there, and they will get worse as houses are built on the backfilled bogs. Look at it, it's a big catch basin up there. The fact an established bog was there should have been plenty enough to tell you water doesn't drain from that area naturally.
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- Hans
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:47:05
We all know how filthy any area is where construction is taking place. They let their tyvek, plastic and cardboard packaging, coffee cups and food trays, tags and plastic bags blow down the street without any attempt whatsoever to secure it from blowing in the wind. It is like this in every single construction area in this province without exception. Pure filth. Who do these workers think is going to come and clean it all up after them ? Once they drop it they think it disappears from the face of the earth. They don't care, it's not their backyard. The stuff can blow for miles and miles !
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- Jack
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:39:53
That build up never happened in yesteryear when there was a forest to soak it all up. Now there is pavement to catch it and flow it to the highway. It is only after this clear cutting and 'development' that we see this. Obviously, storm drainage wasn't properly conceived during the planning stages. It will only get worse as that area 'develops'. It's hard to get good anything these days.
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- Drunkmonkey
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:38:26
Looks good on the city as they were warned back in the seventies not to over develop this area as it contains huge bogs which is holding back all of that H2O,when all of these bogs are finally gone and replaced with concrete and pavement,then I quess this is only going to get worse in the near and fast approaching future.
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- mj
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:37:06
FYI..... That little bit of rain that the city got, was actually 55+ mm, in 24 hours. A bit of water build-up was not as shocking and dramatic as all of you are making it out to be. So what!! There was a bit of flooding on Kenmount Road.....I didn't think rain could turn so many men into big old cry-babies!!
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- Sean
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:27:30
The amount of debris and garbage blowing around this city is embarrassing. I still see people tossing fast food garbage out their car windows! Last week I drove down the Outer Ring Road near Stavanger Drive in a high wind and there was garbage from businesses, individuals, and construction blowing everywhere! I had to dodge a piece of 1 styrofoam that was lowing directly down the highway towards my car. That day and place was the worst I have ever seen but it is nearly the same all over the city. It is a disgrace! It's time for ALL of us to wake up and take some pride in this place!...not just those few who are environmentally conscious.
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- Brian
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:26:56
Paul Mackey on radio claiming drains not sufficient to carry water and culverts clogged with debris from businesses!!! Always got an excuse, major development in this area for past # of years, infastructure not adequate.
This a continuos problem, when did city crews last clean / clear these culverts?? When will city hall get it together!!!! Major route into city closed!!!!! -
- steveb
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:22:24
lets hope that the contractors that built all the houses done a decent job so the houses dont flood, but thats not likely.
Thats what happenes as a result of both building a house on bog and not having a sweet clue what your doing. -
- Jeff
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:14:06
These are public roads that are turning into hazards whenever there is a heavy rain, either from clogged or inadequate drainage, or from water filled ruts which leads to hydroplaning. Time for the responsible party, in this case the City of St. John's, to conduct a root cause investigation to determine why these hazards are constantly being created, and identify solutions to reduce the hazards. The motoring public are constantly being injured and killed as a result of these conditions, time for the responsible people to find responsible solutions.
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- member of the 20%
- - July 1, 2010 at 21:13:55
Pathetic. Imagine a so-called city that can't handle a few millimetres of rain. But, if you think back to its leadership in recent time....Rags Murphy; Shannie; Andy; Doc...visionaries? Pathetic! They wouldn't plan a successful retirement party.
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