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Update: Ralph Wiseman reclaims mayor’s chair in Paradise following recount  
Name drawn from envelope after tie in votes
The Telegram
Ralph Wiseman reclaimed the mayor’s chair in Paradise today after his name was drawn from an envelope to break a tie in votes following the recount.
A recount of votes between Wiseman and 19-year-old Kurtis Coombs — who was declared the winner Tuesday night by three votes following the municipal election — was requested by Wiseman.
Following the turn of events, Coombs congratulated Wiseman but said, “You have not seen the last of me yet.”
According to the section 60 of the Municipal Elections Act …
60. Where, upon the counting of the votes, 2 or more candidates have
an equal number of votes and both or all of those candidates cannot be
elected, the returning officer shall immediately
(a) write the names of those candidates on separate, identical
blank sheets of paper;
(b) fold the sheets of paper in an identical manner so that
the names are concealed;
(c) deposit them in a receptacle and withdraw the number of
the sheets necessary to elect the candidates required to be elected; and
(d) declare the candidate whose name appears on the sheet
withdrawn, to be elected.
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Nasty Nate from St, Johns, NL writes: Just wait till Kurtis has his Mummy freaking out on the news tonight. I think people will be happy that she is not your mayor. People thought that he was elected, but it was the mother that held the power, not the son.
Count your lucky stars. Maybe in four years from now after he moves out and completes his education will be a better time for everyone.
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| Posted 01/10/2009 at 2:56 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
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Andrew from NL writes: hahaha okay? I'm sure nothing 'fishy' happened there at all. Yep, legitimate to the end I'm sure.
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Gerry Kelly from Steady Brook, NL writes: This is really unfortunate. It would have been interesting to see the young lad give it a go. Mr. Wiseman seems to represent the past.
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Terry from Paradise, NL writes: How Ralph Wiseman can have the gall to claim victory after winning by having his name drawn out of an envelope is disgusting. This man has no mandate from the citizens of this town and he basically maneuvered his way into the Mayor's chair by refusing to be gracious in defeat.
Ralph Wiseman needs to resign immediately. I believe the citizens of Paradise will launch a campaign for his resignation.
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Let the people Decide from NL writes: In all fairness to democracy, please say this is not so....and I voted for Wiseman. Open up the nomination process again and lets do this again. I don't think that the fastest growing town in Atlantic Canada should have a mayor who's name is drawn out of a hat. Let the residents of Paradise decide on this very importmant position. We must demand that this happens.
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Just Me from Newfoundland writes: Well that just sucks.
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Rob from NL writes: This is summed up by only one phrase........ What a JOKE!!
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sailor from NL writes: He should decline and walk away with his head down. Paradise cannot wait until the next election for things to change. I guess the housing contractors will be happy!!! Tear down more trees boys and stick up another house and then move on....Great planning
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Dave from NL writes: I'm not from Paradise so have no real stake in the election but essentially drawing names out of a hat seems like a ridiculously stupid way to 'elect' someone these days. Wouldn't it make more sense to throw out the results and do it all over again instead of relying on the luck of the draw?
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TJ from Paradise, NL writes: You have to be kidding me!!
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Mike from Paradise, Newfoundland writes: No Way!
What kind of joke is this!!!!!!
Ralph should resign!
Do the right thing!
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Townie from NL writes: WOW. From reading all the negative comments in yesterday's Telegram, there will be a lot of Pi$$ED OFF people in Paradise today. Being from St. John's, I haven't heard much about Mr. Wiseman but what I have heard isn't good. All you residents in Paradise are in for a hard 4 years. He will remember the ones who spoke negatively. God help ya!!
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Rick from Paradise, Newfoundland writes: Something just stinks about this. I agree with Terry. Wiseman should step down.
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New Resident from Paradise, NL writes: I am shocked and disgusted!!! God help Paradise Is all I have to say, God Help us all!
Name out of an envelope!!! I can't believe it, I'm shocked......
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Harvey Jackman from Hillview, NL writes: Why didn't Wiseman let Curtis carry the day???
Curtis appeared vibrant, energetic ,mature and ready to engage in getting done what former mayors failed to do.
This is really too bad!!!
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New Resident from Paradise, NL writes: I am shocked and disgusted!!! God help Paradise Is all I have to say, God Help us all!
Name out of an envelope!!! I can't believe it, I'm shocked......
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Ryan Spencer from NL writes: Oh please... none of you would be crying fowl if it had been Kurtis name pulled out. While I would have rather seen a revote, I am completely fine with seeing a veteran political leader take over paradise during a very important time!
I am impressed with Coombs he made his point. Perhaps the next 4 years will provide him time to gain experience and then come back for the next election.
Congrats Ralph
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Doug from Paradise writes: The perfect result. Ralph gets a wake up call and does an even better job this time and we are not saddled with this infant excuse of a protest mayor. It's a good day for Paradise!!!
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Chris LeDrew from Paradise, NL writes: You have to be kidding me--god help us---we go from hope to despair again
Lets have a 2nd spin off election next week to make it fair--not the luck of the draw
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Happy Paradise Resident from NL writes: EXTREMELY HAPPY with this outcome, I can't say I was looking forward to the next four years... I applaud Kurtis Coombs efforts, it took a lot of guts to go up against a political veteran like Ralph Wiseman. I definitely think he should try again in four years time when he has gained some maturity.
It's a good day for Paradise, congratulations Mr. Wiseman!! :)
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Don from nl writes: Well Dog Gone that.
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Jay from Paradise, NL writes: This is right up there with St. John's mail in ballots.
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Judy from NL writes: There was tie in the end. If vice versa had happened with Curtis having 3 less votes he would of requested a recount. And the same thing would of happened. It wasnt a matter of someone having the gall to claim victory, it was a win in the end. It was done legally and properly.
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R P from paradise, nl writes: Lets let the people decide. Another election is in order. Everyone meet at the town hall at 8 AM tommorrow?????
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Jerome from Paradise NL writes: Terry - Suck it up. I'm no fan of him either but 50% of those that voted, voted for him. Anyone, including Coombs would have asked for a recount with a 3 vote margin. Wiseman won't resign, the people won't protest and Coombs now has a fairly good understanding of his status in the political circle and am sure we will hear from him again. Don't like what you see in your community? Lobby the council, not the mayor.
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Martin from NL writes: So we count once and get X...
We recount and get Y...
X does not equal Y
Wouldn't logic dictate to recount again?
This just shows what a complete farce muncipal poltics is.
Time to Amalgamate St. John's, Paradise and Mount Peral. Its all one big city anyway. Then we can get a bunch of grade 10's to run for mayor.
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Dan from NL writes: How pathetic... makes you wonder if the returning officer or whoever else was counting the ballots can add... how can a person lead by three votes and after a recount end up being tied... why was there not a second count on the night that the ballots were counted if it was that close of a margin between the two... a sad, sad day... Kurtis would have been a better mayor than that cronie Wiseman (an oxymoron if I ever heard one).
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Mike Wareham from Paradise, NL writes: Under the regulations, it seems that Mr. Coombs can ask for a recount. I say he should do that.
But drawing a name out of a hat seems to be an archaic way to pick a winner.
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B from Paradise, NL writes: Mr. Coombs showed more maturity and graciousness in his defeat than Mr. Wiseman . I'd like to see another election take place. Drawing a name from an envelop doesn't seem quite right to me. I think if we had another chance to vote, far more people would actually mark their X this time and we'd get a real idea as to who the town wants as Mayor. I doubt, however, Mr. Wiseman is brave enough to let us have a second go at it.
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Ralf Smartfellow from Paradise, NL writes: Start up the bulldozers again boys! Our fella is back in the saddle!
What a sad day for trees in Paradise.
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Stan Darsh from NL writes: my name can be written down on a small piece of paper, folded, and fit into a hat. maybe i should run in the next elections....scrap that. maybe i should brisk walk in the next elections
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Albert from NL writes: Mr.Wiseman now that you are in, fix the mess called Karwood Drive. Sept is to late when a child gets knocked down walking to a school that has no sidewalks going to it, no sidewalk plows,industrial traffic not to mention children having to cross the busiest intersection in Paradise during rush hour traffic. 4 more years of great planning like this one.
Were doomed!!!!!!!!!!
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Rob M from NL writes: What a joke. Paradise is a mess of a town. All you have to drive through there. The need a major change in the way they are developing...
It is doing well because it borders with St.John's. At least Mount Pearl took advantage of their location and developed a beautiful city/twon
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Han from St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador writes: This is shameful and disgusting. It makes a joke of the democratic process and trivializes the efforts of every person who came out to vote. Two things ought to happen immediately:
1) The Act needs to be changed to require a run-off, or a system of transferable ballots, or *some* system which leaves the decision in the hands of the voters and not in a name drawn from a hat
2) Wiseman needs to resign immediately. Anybody who's shameful enough to pretend they have the confidence of the electorate, or any legitimate right to hold office, after tying and accepting a draw from a hat does not have the credibility to act as mayor. He undermines the credibility of his town if he doesn't do the honourable thing and resign.
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Susan from Paradise, Newfoundland writes: This is unbelievable. I don't know how Ralph Wiseman can have the face to sit in the Mayor's Chair. The people elected and WANT Kurtis Coombs.
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Sarah from Paradise, NL writes: I cannot even believe people are upset this child got removed.
Obviously someone else was pulling his strings. I can finally breathe easy.
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Jim from NL writes: Well I am not from Paradise nor am I intimate with the history of Wiseman. Speaking just about the facts of the election Wiseman did nothing wrong in asking for a recount...the drawing of a name from an envelope? Whoever wrote that into the Municipal act should be tarred and feathered. If that is changed to something reasonable (say another election) then this situation would resolve itself quite easily.
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Paradise Resident from Newfoundland writes: Ralph Wiseman's not fit to clean my cat box. I can't believe we have to put up with him for another four years!
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thomas from nl writes: What a joke! Let's have another election!
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| Posted 01/10/2009 at 3:31 PM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
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B from NL writes: I have been following this since yesterday....WOW!!! there has got to be a lot of people in Paradise going OOPS now after all of the negative, rude comments to the defeated,er, outgoing, er, still Mayor of Paradise....I did a little looking and the best I can tell, there are about 10,000 people in Paradise who could vote. Looks like less than 4000 turned out to vote. maybe next time. Remember now, bring those pooper scoopers with you when you walk your dogs, after all, it is the law. haha
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Sue from Paradise, NL writes: THEY DREW A NAME FROM A HAT!? I'm moving out of Paradise. Random selection isn't democracy. This is ridiculous, I'm embarrassed to be a resident of this dead-end town.
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Resident from Paradise, NL writes: Wiseman says he won ‘fair and square’ following recount.
This man is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He makes me sick to my stomach.
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proud townie from nl writes: Well I guess Paradise just solved every municipal election in the future. Just:
(a) write the names of all the candidates on separate, identical
blank sheets of paper;
(b) fold the sheets of paper in an identical manner so that
the names are concealed.
(c) deposit them in a receptacle and withdraw the number of
the sheets necessary to elect the candidates required to be elected; and
(d) declare the candidate whose name appears on the sheet withdrawn, to be elected. No more problems with having to vote. Kurtis you have been robbed.
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Telling it Like it is from St. Johns, NL writes: I did some research into Section 60 of the Municipal Elections Act … and look what else I found out about Paradise. Some of these laws and beliefs are just plain silly!
It is illegal to wear puffy pants
It is illegal to refer to something as a Do-Hickey
It is illegal to leave the Toilet Seat Up
It is illegal to committ flatulence in public
Once you tagged 'it' you must find someone new to tag 'it', not the person who tagged you
Hide and Seek shall now be referred to as Seek and Hide
Baby Ducks have the right of way
Breeding shall only occur every 7 years
''Blame Danny'' shall be used for every and all of Paradises' problems
It IS Legal to marry your cousin
Rome was Built in a day
You can judge a book by its cover
All revolving doors in Paradise must be capable of closing
The mayor has the right to enact Premanocta at all weddings occurring in Paradise
You must now find ways to kill 5 birds with 1 stone
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PAC from Paradise, NL writes: Drawing a name out of a hat - why bother having people come out to vote? Why not just put all interested candidate's name in a hat and save everyone's time & money? Winning the Major's seat should involve a little more than a draw for a prize !!! It's time to change the Municipal Act, I'll certainly think long & hard before I vote the next time!!!
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JimBob from Newfoundland writes: I don't understand why people think that Wiseman should resign because he doesn't have a mandate from the people. Neither does Coombs. Even if Coombs was the winner with a three vote advantage, he would not have a mandate. The law is the law. Coombs should know that. And by Coombs threatening to hire a lawyer and fight it, he looks like the baby. I don't understand the attraction to hiring an inexperienced adolescent to run a major centre. I don't care if he's well spoken. And why do people stress his status as a poli-sci student. Political science teaches history without context and how to be a blow-hard. It does not teach the economic, planning, and the bargaining skills necessary to run a municipality - skills Wiseman learned through years of experience. Wiseman is not the arrogant, ignorant person, it is the 19 year old who thinks he can run a municipality with no resume to prove it.
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Please Mayor's from Paradise writes: Both of you fellows ran a campaign based upon putting the best interest of Paradise and it's residents to the fore front. If that is really your beliefs, then do the right thing....get the two parties together and agree to a run off election and let the people of Paradise make their decision heard. If this doesn't happen, this issue will stay in the media while Mr. Coombs goes through the legal process, thus holding back what can and may be accomplished for the Town. The Mayor's chair as is stands today has zero credibility in the Town of Paradise.
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Patrick from paradise, nfld writes: Seems many people are driven by emotion and not facts. Coombs also asked for a recount, refer to previous Telegram articles. The act states that the way the final decision was made is legal, whether you like it or not. It was Coombs mommy that would have run things, and if his name had have been picked all the negative comments about it would not have been made. Wiseman should not resign, Coombs can take it to court if he thinks there was something wrong. The Chief Polling Clerk is a seasoned and experienced municipal official who went by the book, she didn't write new rules. Get over it, Wiseman is mayor, fair and square, and remember it was a tie, they got equal votes. If a third person had run, neither of those two would have gotten in, but Wiseman is mayor, and not Combs mommy, so everyone get over it.
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Jay from NL writes: Sue: they followed the letter of the law. I think its silly too, but complain to the Provincial Government. Moving out of Paradise won't help, nor is Paradise dead end .
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Sam from NL writes: Seriously,its time to amalgamate St. John's, Mount Pearl, Paradise, CBS, and Portugal Cove-St. Phillips. You all use St. John's services and take advantage of the Capital City and you should sure as hell be a part of it and pay taxes. We should be worried that a town like Paradise, supposedly the fastest growing in Canada, is backwards enough to elect a 19-year old as Mayor. Sorry, I know Ralph Wiseman isn't the greatest but at least he has experience. I've known Kurtis and I can tell you he is in no way suitable to be a Mayor - at least not yet. While I don't agree with drawing a name from a hat, I sure as hell don't agree with having a Mayor that will spend half his time at MUN doing an undergraduate degree and the other half of his time in a paid position as Mayor of the Town of Paradise. Join St John's - we'll show you how its done right.
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Young Woman from Paradise from NL writes: Being someone of similar age to Kurtis Coombs, I believe that it is a great thing for him personally to not get elected as mayor. He is only 19 years old, attending MUN and he was to have a full time job with a lot of responsibility. I think that sure, in four years time when he is finished school, go for it. That would be the perfect opportunity. Really though, how can everybody in paradise expect a person this young, still working on this education, to lead a town growing as fast as paradise? He still planned on continuing to finish his degree which is a full time thing when you include studying, and then along with that be there for all event that the town has, make decisions that could change the residence way of leaving, and still have time get a good education? come on people put your thinking hat on. My parents have always told me that a good education is the key to living a good life and all you people are going mad saying how terrible it is that he is getting a chance to get a proper education like a normal 19 year old.
As for Ralph Wisemen, most people in paradise only voted for Coombs because they don't like Ralph, yes he says inappropriate things at times and I agree he needs to think before he speaks, but at least he has time for the town. He will do everything he can for the town, even though i know everything is never enough for people. Ralph has done a lot for this town and everyone need to open their eyes and see that. There is no way everyone will ever be satisfied, but i think that everyone should be grateful that there is now once again an experienced mayor in our growing community.
As for the re-count, no one would have said anything about fairness if Kurtis Coombs won.
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George from NL writes: I can't understand why a lot of people keep refering to Mr. Coombs as a child and shouldn't be mayor. They weren't concerned with his age or any other 19year olds in the community when they asked for his vote, or when the votes were placed in the ballot box. His age is not an issue when it's time to pay taxes. So if you can tax a person, and give them the right to vote, they should also be given the same opportunities to govern.
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MArk from Paradise writes: For the love of god, We need a new Major. i live in paradise and no offense, this community SUCKSSSSS. The development is Discusting. Take all the trees, Build more houses, You make me sick. i will be some glad to move out of paradise, Screw it im going to buy a house in St. John's tomorrow..... anyone want to buy a house in Paradise the land of HELLLLLLL
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Anon from NL writes: I don't understand why the guy is being criticized for age. Paradise has a rapidly growing population of young people and young voters. The town needs a council that reflects the views of the entire town and not just older citizens. That is young AND old. It really sucks he didn't get the position, I think a run off election would have been way more fair than drawing names out of a hat.
And I didn't see anything about the Coombs' mother so that should be a point of embarrasment for those who like to say he needs his mommy to make a fuss for him. As I recall it was Coombs who ran for mayor and came very very close to winning, NOT his mommy.
Grow up by's seriously, grow up.
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The Voice of Reason from Paradise, NL writes: Personally I did not want either of these people to be the mayor and for that reason I didn't even bother to vote. I see Ralph Wiseman as the lesser of the two evils simply because he has a certain amount of experience and idea on how to go about running a town (be it good or bad). As for Kurtis Coombs, he is inexperienced (not young) and that any mayor, in any town, should serve a term on council first to see the inner workings of municipal politics. Coombs could have gotten elected to council easily - possibly even getting enough votes to serve as deputy mayor, and then in 4 years be poised to effectively take on the mayor's role.
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Tim Sick Of It All from NL writes: All of Paradise MUST ask for a re-election of teh mayor's position only ASAP! This is South American politics at it's greasiest finest. Something REALLY stinky going on here... get the smell coming all way up Prince Philip Drive I do....
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ernie chokomolin from sault ste marie, ontario writes: this young man should be given a chance to run and see what he,s got..it,s time for change and for the wise old dude...he should just retire ,and have some humble pie...and admit to defeat...i hope that the young man doesn,t give in....i,m sure he can turn things around for you,s in paradise....yours in peace and in my prayers....take care
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Jaycee from CBS, NL writes: I AM THE MAYOR AND UNTIL I AM TOLD OTHERWISE I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO . . . he wasn't so bloody quick when he was defeated . . . and not even gracious about his win - which really wasn't a win . . . he lost, ballots were declared invalid and his name was drawn . . . come on . . . face it . . . Wiseman only won by the luck of the draw . . . if ballots were left in, he'd be home sulking . . . with a snarky attitude like he's shown on the news today, I'm glad I'm not in his municipality - GOD HELP PARADISE!
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M from NL writes: They drew the NAMES OUT OF A HAT?? You have GOT to be KIDDING! Irregardless of WHO won that way, that's terrible !! WHY even BOTHER having elections in the FIRST place - just put ALL the names in the hat of people who want to be elected to a Municipal Council ( Hell, for THAT matter, might as well make it ANY election in this province !! ), and draw out 7 of them. Now that the names of the councillors have been chosen SOOO democratically, put the councillors names in a hat, and whoever gets drawn out THAT can be Mayor. My GOD, WHAT a NEWFIE Joke Municipal elections are in this province. People up on the Mainland must be rolling in the aisles, with tears of mirth streaming from their eyes, at THIS fine example. Not BAD enough the commedians make fun of us, without US providing MORE comedic fodder for them. NO BLOODY WONDER there are Newfie jokes - we CERTAINLY deserve them.
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Rich from NL writes: First off, Wiseman is a scumbag, and all of this is more ego-driven than anything else.
Second, the Paradise mayoral race is just a game anyway. As I said, for Wiseman it's about ego, and for Coombs its about ambition. For the rest of that guy's life he would have been able to say that at one point he was the youngest mayor (of a fast growing community at that) in Canada, and that he beat a veteran for the job. When it comes to bread-and-butter issues, the St John's election was far more important to Paradise. It's just an SJ suburb anyway.
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Yes, Mr. Wiseman... you know me personally from NL writes: Wiseman has proven NOT to have the economic, planning, and the bargaining skills necessary to run a municipality - skills Wiseman clearly failed to learn through years of potential experience is a complete waste, as he constantly insults and condescends the town's citizens. All one has to do to verify this is to look around our town. Has he learned nothing ? Did he not learn when he opened up his stink hole in reference to dogs and their owners in Paradise ? Wiseman IS the arrogant, ignorant person we've all come to know him for through past experience. That is... him and his wife who calls the shots behind the scenes. No one else wants anything to do with him, not even council.
Experience and treachery wins out over youth and energy here once again.
Learn to play dirty Kurtis, and politically bury this grumpy old f@rt who's eyes gleam with contempt and unabashed shame.
There must be a re-vote to ensure we can maintain some semblance of interest in this thing we call democracy. Democracy... something which will soon follow the footsteps of the dinosaurs as voter apathy grows year by year the whole world over - and rightfully so.
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tim bennett from corner brook, NL writes: I saw a worse one than that. I saw the judge give the seat in the house of assembly to his tory friend and refused to open 21 ballot boxes and count the ballots. The seat was awarded to the tory candidate. NL corruption was alive and well then.
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D. Legend from NL writes: Brutal.... gotta love those 3 missed votes....... can anyone smell that? smells like bull ****!
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