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| Last updated at 8:15 AM on 17/10/09 |
No federal cash for new pen 
ALISHA MORRISSEY The Telegram
Federal dollars won't go into the construction of a new prison in this province, despite Ottawa doubling its budget for prison construction and maintenance this year and plans to triple it by next.
Chris McCluskey, Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan's spokesman, says this province won't be getting a chunk of that money to build a new federal/provincial prison here.
"There are no plans to build any more prisons for the foreseeable future," McCluskey told The Telegram late Friday. "Speaking in reference to Her Majesty's prison in St. John's, the minister has said before, as it is a provincial facility, the prison and its future are entirely the responsibility of the province."
But this province's Justice Minister Felix Collins said Friday he is looking forward to speaking with his federal counterpart about what the federal government's plans will mean for the prison system here, and in particular, Her Majesty's Penitentiary.
"It's going to put more pressure on the facilities and, hopefully, we'll qualify for some of that money. Now, basically, we're still in the same position we've been in. We need a new penitentiary," Collins said.
A national news story reported Ottawa has doubled its prison construction and maintenance budget from $88.5 million in 2006-07 to $195.1 million this year, and projects another increase to $211.6 million in fiscal year 2010-11.
According to the Globe and Mail story, the Conservative minority government needs to expand its prisons to house an expected increase in prisoners after tougher laws and sentences take effect across the country.
The Conservatives have introduced proposals to end the use of conditional sentences - known as house arrest - and the two-for-one rule, allowing a judge to hand out sentences that give credit for time served while awaiting trial.
Van Loan told the Globe and Mail that renovations and extensions will temporarily make space for those prisoners, while decisions on building new regional prisons will be put off for another two to three years.
"Basically, by introducing this legislation the government is focused on measures that are putting the rights of victims over serious criminals. I suppose what the Liberals are arguing is criminals being released back into our communities before their sentences have been completed, which we think is clearly unacceptable," McCluskey said, adding he's "unapologetic about that."
"Should offenders be allowed back into the communities before being rehabilitated?"
When asked exactly how prisoners can be rehabilitated when a facility like HMP has so few programs and poor conditions, McCluskey said, "We should be improving those systems, otherwise when they complete their sentences they're not rehabilitated and they're allowed back into the communities without rehabilitation and I think that just demonstrates the argument that those programs should be improved."
The Globe and Mail article states there are about 33,000 people in jails in Canada, with most being the responsibility of the provinces or territories while either awaiting trial or sentencing or serving shorter provincial sentences.
Today in this province, there are 189 prisoners at HMP - 19 of whom are federal prisoners. In all, there are 49 federal prisoners serving sentences in this province's prisons.
Late Friday a spokesman for the provincial Justice Department was quick to point out there are federal inmates in the province's justice system who are receiving Correctional Services Canada programming here.
The federal government has a responsibility here, he said.
Meanwhile, Defence Minister Peter MacKay, this province's federal cabinet representative, was in St. John's Friday to make several funding announcements. When questioned about the prison, he said this province isn't alone in needing a new facility, adding that there is a great need for corrections infrastructure around the country.
He suggested Collins should meet with Van Loan to talk about the issue and that he would help facilitate those talks.
Collins said he would be more than willing to meet with both Van Loan and MacKay.
amorrissey@thetelegram.com
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17/10/09
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BrenD from Nl writes: The Provincial goverment has to take the responsibility, they do receive money to house federal inmates. You cannot pump money into the RNC and hire more Officers to catch the criminals. At some point someone has to wonder where they are going to put them. When you remove 60 beds from the system at Salmonier to save 3 million dollars,and create a couple of cottage lots.Maybe the prceeds from the sale of those lots can go into the sytem and build a new Prison. Build the Prison and than charge the Feds more money to house those Federal Inmates. The terms of Union protects the Province to house federal inmates.
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| Posted 17/10/2009 at 9:22 AM | Alert an Editor | Link to comment |
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tom from terra nova, nl writes: face the facts there will be no money for nl.for any project until harper is gone. for every 100,000 mackay gives to nl. he makes sure that nova scotia gets at least ten to twenty times that amount.check the numbers over the past few years and you will be shocked.
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C.O. Sir from NL writes: Looks like a casualty of the ABC campaign. The feds doubling their budget put none for NF & LB. In a few years we'll have to build our own after we take care of a few other issues first with our oil money. We can probably replace HMP with a new moniker.....ABC.
We can forget about getting fed money with Collins in as Justice Minister, He is the MHA for Fabian MAnning's old riding & they do not want Collins looking good in Fabe's old riding. That is if Williams wouldn't hog the limelight if fed money was announced for the prov.
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Joe from NL writes: People need to realize that the federal government pays the province for keeping a federal prisoner....The only thing that the federal prisoner costs the province is space in our facilities.....THE PROVINCE needs to build a new prison ....or stop whining about the one we have.....It shouldn't be a hotel, but people should get basic needs met.....Programs only work for those who want to change . So for the most part, they're a big waste of money !! ...Officials need to look at the individuals rate of residivism before offering porgrams....Someone who has spent 18 out of 20 years in prison , does not want to be rehabilatated!!!!
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